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Human Rights Watch: Israel Has Committed War Crimes

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Posted on Aug 4, 2006

The watchdog group released a 50-page report detailing Israel’s failure to distinguish between combatants and civilians in Lebanon, in one case wiping out an entire 12-person family because one member merely was suspected of being sympathetic to Hezbollah.


Human Rights Watch:

Israeli forces have systematically failed to distinguish between combatants and civilians in their military campaign against Hezbollah in Lebanon, Human Rights Watch said in report released today.

The pattern of attacks in more than 20 cases investigated by Human Rights Watch researchers in Lebanon indicates that the failures cannot be dismissed as mere accidents and cannot be blamed on wrongful Hezbollah practices. In some cases, these attacks constitute war crimes.

The 50-page report, “Fatal Strikes: Israel’s Indiscriminate Attacks Against Civilians in Lebanon,” analyzes almost two dozen cases of Israeli air and artillery attacks on civilian homes and vehicles. Of the 153 dead civilians named in the report, 63 are children. More than 500 people have been killed in Lebanon by Israeli fire since fighting began on July 12, most of them civilians. 
“The pattern of attacks shows the Israeli military’s disturbing disregard for the lives of Lebanese civilians,” said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch. “Our research shows that Israel’s claim that Hezbollah fighters are hiding among civilians does not explain, let alone justify, Israel’s indiscriminate warfare.”

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By Karen Aizenshtat, August 21, 2006 at 3:45 am #
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What can Israel do when Islamic terrorists hide behind the skirts of women & little children? 

The Israeli army goes to great lengths to print warning flyers in Arabic & drop them over neighborhoods and/or villages that are targeted.  Has any suicide bomber or terrorist given us any warning?  No - because they have no regard for human lives - not even their own families since they travel with them, purposely putting them in harm’s way. Land, dirt, territory - are all more important to Islamist terrorists than people.  The Islamic terrorists demonstrate over and over that they are not interested in peace, only destruction!  They are so brave when they use old people, women & children in their own homes as a front for them.  No wonder so many get caught in the line of fire!  Cowards!

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By Inbal, August 13, 2006 at 12:00 pm #
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Warren Greer you are deliberately confusing the issues. Neither Indonesia nor Iran are Arabic. Islam is divided into two factions….Sunni and Shiite. Each call the other “Infidel”, fight each other while both fight the West thriving for world domination (re. 9/11}.

Their leaders live in the “Dark ages” slaves to medieval mentality. Their struggle with the West has nothing to do with distribution of wealth. This is purely a religious war led by and fuelled by a bunch of religious fanatics. Yes, World War 3 has already begun.

Israel is the only free democracy in the Middle East. All citizens, Arab, Druze, Christian     and Jew, enjoy equal rights, social security, best health care in the world. Israel is a multinational state. hezbollah, hamas and similar religious zealots like a pack of wolves wish to exterminate Jews same as Hitler. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

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By warren greer, August 12, 2006 at 4:31 pm #
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Attn.: Inbal, # 18004:  What “Arab nation” has become so bloodthirsty?  What “Christian nation” has not had a session of bloodthirst?  There is a struggle within the “Arab” nations, (let’s say ‘muslim’ so we may include Iran, Indonesia, and others,) between reactionary fundamentalists and progressive secularists; that manifests itself as strife between exploiters and those exploited, between socially forward looking elements and those who want to maintain their strangle hold on the wealth of the countries.  Such is the game being played out in Mexico now.  This is the struggle in the U.S.A., now, between the socially responsible and the ‘drown-it-in-the-bath-tub privatizers; and also even in Israel, which will have no peace until it is a ultimately a multi-national secular state with full rights for all citizens, both Arabs and Jews.  If this sounds too much like pie-in-the-sky, let me point out that it was the Reformation which broke the back of this blood-soaked and corrupt European Christianity, and the Counter-Reformation which rescued a Roman Catholic Church from superstition and church-state tyranny.  Let us just hope that the Reformation of Islam, which will rescue it from the likes of the Taliban and O.B.L., will be shorter and less bloody than that of the European Christians, and that the millenia-old traditions of the Jews for education, morality, and humanism and of the Muslims for science, charity, and literature, will come to the fore and wipe out the shame of genocide-Lite.  The Murderous Old Men, both Israeli and Muslim, must be stopped before this macabre dance of suicide-genocide wipes out any more of each other’s children.

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By Inbal, August 12, 2006 at 12:25 pm #
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Yea, wake up America! What more should happen to the USA to help it wake up after 9/11? What else can be said, to keep it on alert?

Maybe this. Listen America what an Arab journalist named Shaker Al Nabulsi says about his own people:

Monday, September 20, 2004
Arab Progressive: The Arabs are Still Slaves to a Medieval Mentality

‘We have become the Most Terrorist Nation and the Greatest Spillers of Blood
in the World’
“... If the Arabs had today a well-burnished mirror in which they can see
themselves, and if they had the requisite courage to look in it, they would
be stricken by fear and panic at the sight of themselves. The image [would
be] that we have become the most terrorist nation and the greatest spillers
of blood in the world. In this [current] stage of history in which nations
resolve their problems through dialogue, diplomacy, conventions, and through
appeal to the world’s better judgment, to public opinion, and to
intellectuals, instead of threatening [others] with bloodshed if this or
that demand goes unmet… The image is that we have become a nation devoid
of reason!”
‘Why have the Arabs Gone Crazy in Such a Manner?

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By Fadel Abdallah, August 11, 2006 at 6:28 pm #
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Check the following link and read how this so-called British terror plot was staged! Also learn all the evil the Zionist Murdoch is doing through Fox News, News of the World, The Sun, Sky News etc. all owned by the most dangerous Zionist in the world today!

Wake up America!

http://waynemadsenreport.com

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By Inbal, August 11, 2006 at 9:21 am #
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There is a strange practice common to all forums I’ve encountered so far on the internet; and this forum is no exception. The initiator throws in a bomb and then sits back at his own comfort, saying to himself: “let the naïve guys skirmish among themselves while I’ll keep dumb as the wall”.

Mr. anonymous, hiding his identity same as the hizbulla behind civilian populations, has thrown in this bomb, carefully choosing each word for its rabid, title and now he’s silent as a fish. But hey hey, wait a minute, aren’t you responsible for your willfully chosen provocative title and downright lies? Who are you Mr. anonymous? Maybe you’re mel gibson or some other anti-Semite hiding behind the wish washy “human wrights” tin heads?

Now, let’s see what was said here before. Maybe this time you’ll speak up Mr. anonymous?

•  Comment #17377 by Mad as Hell on 8/08 at 2:40 pm

Somebody needs to read today’s Nicholas Kristoff on the contrast between Lebanon, where a few hundred people have been killed, and Darfur, where on the order of a million have been killed.
NK notes that Lebanon has gotten more press in the last few weeks than Darfur has gotten in THREE YEARS!
The double-standard in the Middle East is disgusting.  The rules they demand Israel live by are not the ones the want Sudan to live by.
I’ve said it before: No matter how racist Israel is accused of being, it doesn’t compare to the racism of their neighbors.  No matter how cruel Israel may be to minorities, it isn’t spit in a bucket next to the ocean of cruelty in the Arab world.  Had Israel been doing what Sudan is doing, the WORLD would demand she be wiped out with nukes.
But not Sudan and not Darfur.  That, the world doesn’t give a shit about. A few hundred in Lebanon? “HORRORS! MONSTERS!” A million going on two million murdered in true genocide in Darfur? “Ho-Hum, let’s see what’s going on with Brittany’s pregnancy and that Tour de Francy guy.”
Hypocrites! Kristoff is right.

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By Warren Greer, August 10, 2006 at 2:18 pm #
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A plague on NEITHER of their houses!  This is a proxy war conducted by MOIMs vs. MOZMs—Murderous Old Islamic Men against Murderous Old Zionist Men—in which they slaughter each other’s children.  A plague on all Murderous Old Men.  Rise up, cannon fodder of all nations.  Set your own houses in order, end the race to the bottom, and no power can withstand you. 
    Oh.  Of course, w. bush, the world’s chief slaughterer, will try, but his days and the days of his ilk are numbered.  MOIZMs to the trash heap of history!

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By anti-hypocrisy crusader, August 9, 2006 at 11:51 am #
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What do they expect Israel to do when its soldiers and killed and kidnapped on ITS OWN TERRITORY?  After swapping “land for peace” in Southern Lebanon, in Gaza, and proclaiming its readiness to do likewise in most of the West Bank?  Instead of “peace” the response is rockets deliberately aimed at its civilians.  What was “Human Rights Watch”‘s response then?  Did they applaud Israel’s unilateral pullouts?  Not a peep.  But when hezbollah cowards launch their missiles from apartment buildings and israel strikes back, only then do they shout.  But we Jews are used to the double standard.  Anything they do to annihilate us is acceptable.  anything we do to defend ourselves is “disproportionate”.  Their civilians are “civilians”, ours are legitimate targets.  Well this time we are not going “like sheep to the slaughter” so they don’t like us.  “With friends like them…”

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By Mad as Hell, August 8, 2006 at 1:40 pm #
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Somebody needs to read today’s Nicholas Kristoff on the contrast between Lebanon, where a few hundred people have been killed, and Darfur, where on the order of a million have been killed.

NK notes that Lebanon has gotten more press in the last few weeks than Darfur has gotten in THREE YEARS!

The double-standard in the Middle East is disgusting.  The rules they demand Israel live by are not the ones the want Sudan to live by.

I’ve said it before: No matter how racist Israel is accused of being, it doesn’t compare to the racism of their neighbors.  No matter how cruel Israel may be to minorities, it isn’t spit in a bucket next to the ocean of cruelty in the Arab world.  Had Israel been doing what Sudan is doing, the WORLD would demand she be wiped out with nukes.

But not Sudan and not Darfur.  That, the world doesn’t give a shit about. A few hundred in Lebanon? “HORRORS! MONSTERS!” A million going on two million murdered in true genocide in Darfur? “Ho-Hum, let’s see what’s going on with Brittany’s pregnancy and that Tour de Francy guy.”

Hypocrites! Kristoff is right.

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By earle, August 8, 2006 at 11:46 am #
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There is a popular formula that attempts to explain Israeli behavior that I think is exactly backwards.

The formula states that the tragedy of Jewish history is the key to understanding Israeli behavior over the last 60 years. 

I rather think that current Israeli behavior is a window to Jewish history and, as such, is a plausible explanation FOR Jewish historical tragedies.

Put another way; current world reaction to Israel might be a current example of what Jews have historically called persecution, but what can be seen today as a normal reaction to their initial actions.
In the classical Jewish narrative, the cause is always omitted.  It is only the symptom that is focused on, and, of course, the symptom is always anti-Semitic.  It is a closed tautology that is hard to break through.  They have mastered the dilemma.

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By john c, August 7, 2006 at 1:18 pm #
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This from Mad as Hell:

<<Yet, somehow, Human Rights Watch doesn’t think that Hezbollah has committed war crimes by deliberately attacking civilians, only Israel.>>

The Human Rights Watch Report deals with Israel.

I’m sure that there will be a report on Hezbollah’s rockets.

However, I would assume that they would find a difference between firing 1000 lb precision guided missiles at apartment buildings, and firing 50 lb unguided rockets “in the direction"of the enemy.

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By Euro, August 7, 2006 at 5:31 am #
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Some people seem to be wilfully forgetting the order of events here.  The established facts are that Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers who were patrolling inside Lebanese territory in order to use them as hostages to exchange for Lebanese prisoners illegally held by Israel.  Rather than peacefully negotiate such an exchange, Israel decided instead to wage all-out war on Lebanon.

“I want to make it clear, this morning’s events were not a terrorist attack, but the action of a sovereign state that attacked Israel for no reason and without provocation. The Lebanese government, of which Hezbullah is a member, is trying to undermine regional stability. Lebanon is responsible and Lebanon will bear the consequences of its actions.” - Prime Minister Ehud Olmert

“Everything is simple: there are no longer any safe places in Lebanon.” - Dan Halutz, chief of staff of the Israel Defense Forces

In response to Israel’s subsequent bombardment of Lebanon from land, sea, and air, killing many civilians, Hezbollah retaliated with its rockets.

I will repost here what I have posted on another thread: the truth about Israel’s attitude to civilian casualties from the Israeli’s themselves:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283720,00.html

With some discussion and commentary here:

http://www.rense.com/general72/rabb.htm

In truth, Jewish ethics and morality appear not to have changed at all since the Israelites conducted the first recorded genocide in history against the tribe of Amalek (1 Samuel ch 15).  And presumably their Israeli descendants had their fingers crossed when they signed the Geneva Conventions.

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By Mad As Hell, August 7, 2006 at 3:05 am #
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Yet again, Fadel Abdallah quotes someone who ignores 2 fundamental facts:
1) Hezbollah has, in all its rocket attacks been, from the beginning, deliberately been attacking civilian targets, and Europeans don’t have a problem with that.  Normally, an insurgancy (as they are mis-labled) only gets sympathy when they stick to military targets, but, as usual, when Jewish civilians are targeted, well, that’s OK, because they are “animals” anyway to people like Fadel.  Despite Strindberg’s assertions, Israel was NOT in Lebanon.  Hezbollah violated Israeli territory to kidnap two soldiers.  They’ve DELIBERATLY brought this war down on Lebanon.

2) The treatment inside Israel’s neighbors of anyone who isn’t Arab and Moslem, and the RIGHT kind of ARAb and the RIGHT kind of Moslem, makes Israel look like Eden.  I know people who were born and raised in Tunisia and were expelled solely because they were Jews.  A double standard is applied that the Mid-East and Europe demands that Israel follow, but none of her neighbors are held to that standard.

Isn’t it ironic that following WWII, the Europeans, in the wake of the Holocaust, set up a Jewish state “somewhere else” to continue to make the “Jewish Problem” go away, and, when the results of that were unintended consequences, turned on that state and want it to go away again?  Why??? DUHHHHHH!!!!!! Israel doesn’t have any oil, that’s why and many of these European countries (like France) have huge North African populations that haven’t assimilated and pose an insurrection risk and those are the ONLY reasons.  Europeans, who let the Holocaust happen, or even helped make it happen, have tried to wipe their hands clean of responsibility for their actions in the Middle East and pretend they hold the moral high ground, supporting countries that actively advocate a second Holocaust. 

Nobody in the Middle East gives a shit about the Palestinians or Lebanon, except for using them as pawns.

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By Fadel Abdallah, August 6, 2006 at 9:19 am #
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Please read and get enlightened on the Middle East Crisis; something you’ll never read in the U.S. mainstream media, always satanically allied to the wrongs and injustices of Zionism.
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Hizbullah’s attacks stem from Israeli incursions into Lebanon

By Anders Strindberg

NEW YORK – As pundits and policymakers scramble to explain events in Lebanon, their conclusions are virtually unanimous: Hizbullah created this crisis. Israel is defending itself. The underlying problem is Arab extremism.
Sadly, this is pure analytical nonsense. Hizbullah’s capture of two Israeli soldiers on July 12 was a direct result of Israel’s silent but unrelenting aggression against Lebanon, which in turn is part of a six-decades long Arab-Israeli conflict.

In the Monitor

Thursday, 08/03/06

Since its withdrawal of occupation forces from southern Lebanon in May 2000, Israel has violated the United Nations-monitored “blue line” on an almost daily basis, according to UN reports. Hizbullah’s military doctrine, articulated in the early 1990s, states that it will fire Katyusha rockets into Israel only in response to Israeli attacks on Lebanese civilians or Hizbullah’s leadership; this indeed has been the pattern.
In the process of its violations, Israel has terrorized the general population, destroyed private property, and killed numerous civilians. This past February, for instance, 15-year-old shepherd Yusuf Rahil was killed by unprovoked Israeli cross-border fire as he tended his flock in southern Lebanon. Israel has assassinated its enemies in the streets of Lebanese cities and continues to occupy Lebanon’s Shebaa Farms area, while refusing to hand over the maps of mine fields that continue to kill and cripple civilians in southern Lebanon more than six years after the war supposedly ended. What peace did Hizbullah shatter?
Hizbullah’s capture of the soldiers took place in the context of this ongoing conflict, which in turn is fundamentally shaped by realities in the Palestinian territories. To the vexation of Israel and its allies, Hizbullah - easily the most popular political movement in the Middle East - unflinchingly stands with the Palestinians.
Since June 25, when Palestinian fighters captured one Israeli soldier and demanded a prisoner exchange, Israel has killed more than 140 Palestinians. Like the Lebanese situation, that flare-up was detached from its wider context and was said to be “manufactured” by the enemies of Israel; more nonsense proffered in order to distract from the apparently unthinkable reality that it is the manner in which Israel was created, and the ideological premises that have sustained it for almost 60 years, that are the core of the entire Arab-Israeli conflict.
Once the Arabs had rejected the UN’s right to give away their land and to force them to pay the price for European pogroms and the Holocaust, the creation of Israel in 1948 was made possible only by ethnic cleansing and annexation. This is historical fact and has been documented by Israeli historians, such as Benny Morris. Yet Israel continues to contend that it had nothing to do with the Palestinian exodus, and consequently has no moral duty to offer redress.
For six decades the Palestinian refugees have been refused their right to return home because they are of the wrong race. “Israel must remain a Jewish state,” is an almost sacral mantra across the Western political spectrum. It means, in practice, that Israel is accorded the right to be an ethnocracy at the expense of the refugees and their descendants, now close to 5 million.
Is it not understandable that Israel’s ethnic preoccupation profoundly offends not only Palestinians, but many of their Arab brethren? Yet rather than demanding that Israel acknowledge its foundational wrongs as a first step toward equality and coexistence, the Western world blithely insists that each and all must recognize Israel’s right to exist at the Palestinians’ expense.
Western discourse seems unable to accommodate a serious, as opposed to cosmetic concern for Palestinians’ rights and liberties: The Palestinians are the Indians who refuse to live on the reservation; the Negroes who refuse to sit in the back of the bus.
By what moral right does anyone tell them to be realistic and get over themselves? That it is too much of a hassle to right the wrongs committed against them? That the front of the bus must remain ethnically pure? When they refuse to recognize their occupier and embrace their racial inferiority, when desperation and frustration causes them to turn to violence, and when neighbors and allies come to their aid - some for reasons of power politics, others out of idealism - we are astonished that they are all such fanatics and extremists.
The fundamental obstacle to understanding the Arab-Israeli conflict is that we have given up on asking what is right and wrong, instead asking what is “practical” and “realistic.” Yet reality is that Israel is a profoundly racist state, the existence of which is buttressed by a seemingly endless succession of punitive measures, assassinations, and wars against its victims and their allies.
A realistic understanding of the conflict, therefore, is one that recognizes that the crux is not in this or that incident or policy, but in Israel’s foundational and per- sistent refusal to recognize the humanity of its Palestinian victims. Neither Hizbullah nor Hamas are driven by a desire to “wipe out Jews,” as is so often claimed, but by a fundamental sense of injustice that they will not allow to be forgotten.
These groups will continue to enjoy popular legitimacy because they fulfill the need for someone - anyone - to stand up for Arab rights. Israel cannot destroy this need by bombing power grids or rocket ramps. If Israel, like its former political ally South Africa, has the capacity to come to terms with principles of democracy and human rights and accept egalitarian multiracial coexistence within a single state for Jews and Arabs, then the foundation for resentment and resistance will have been removed. If Israel cannot bring itself to do so, then it will continue to be the vortex of regional violence.
• Anders Strindberg, formerly a visiting professor at Damascus University, Syria, is a consultant on Middle East politics working with European government and law-enforcement agencies. He has also covered Syria, Lebanon, and the Palestinian territories as a journalist since the late 1990s, primarily for European publications.

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By NGO Monitor, August 6, 2006 at 8:34 am #
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Human Rights Watch’s recent statement civilian deaths in Lebanon are based on unverifiable claims and cannot be considered credible. The report quotes numerous “witnesses” from Qana, as well as the local rescue workers who reportedly did not see “any evidence of Hezbollah military presence in or around the home.” This testimony comes from biased sources and cannot serve as the conclusion that “the IDF has blurred the distinction between civilians and combatants.”
HRW’s statement fails to note that many areas are controlled by the Hizbollah terror group, and HRW also ignores the photos and other evidence presented by other sources.  As clearly demonstrated by NGO Monitor, previous HRW reports and condemnations targeting Israel, routinely based on unverifiable and unreliable “evidence”, and ignoring the other information, demonstrate a pattern of bias and lack of credibility. In addition, the failure to condemn the pervasive use of human shields by Hizbollah, which is a basic violation of human rights norms, highlights the bias in HRW reports.

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By Mad As Hell, August 6, 2006 at 4:07 am #
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Fadel Abdallah
Now you are quoting scripture.  Why don’t you go back to your own Quran where you will see that The Prophet considered Jews and Christians to ALREADY be worshipping the True God and that His task was to bring worship of that God to the heathen Arabs and nomadic tribes?

Why don’t you recognize that your own Prophet saw Jews and Christians as partial Moslems?  That the Quran describes both as “People of the Scripture” or “People of the Book”?

Isn’t there a Book of Mary, Jesus’s mother, in the Quran?  Isn’t Jesus considered a great prophet, second only to Mohammed?  Did you miss the tidbit that both Mary and Jesus are JEWS, descended from King David?

You can find violent, unpleasant calls for death and destruction in the scriptures of all 3 Western religions.  It’s there in the Quran as well, and deliberately mis-interpreted by the Jihadists.  If you selectively scan ANY scripture of ANY religion, as you have done, you will find such passages.

See, this is what happens in every religion: Sooner or later, those in power do their best to hide, quash and destroy those “inconvenient” passages and books that challenge those in power.

You’ve bought into it.

Please tell me how the regimes of Qaddaffi, the Saudis, Kuwait, Syria, and Iran are legitimate regimes and not ENORMOUS crimes against their people. 

Quite frankly, I’d bet a million dollars that an Arab, living in Israel, has an easier time than a Jew living in any of those other countries (except Kuwait, maybe).  I don’t say that this hypothetical Arab has it good, just better than the hypothetical Jew.  Naturally, to the Islamic fundamentalists, that doesn’t matter, because it doesn’t matter how non-Moslems are treated by Moslems, only how Moslems are treated by non-Moslems.

Curiously, this position fostered by SO many leaders of Islam, directly violates one of the 5 Pillars—that of charity.

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By M Henri Day, August 6, 2006 at 1:59 am #
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Interesting to note that the results of archaeological investigation seem to indicate that the events described in the lurid tales of a Hebrew exodus from Egypt and a genocidal conquest of Palestine, of which Jericho is the prime Biblical example, never in fact took place (cf, as a point of departure, Edward T Babinski’s summary of the evidence, available here : http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/tektonics/exodus.html). It would seem the leaders of the present state of Israel think to make amends for this lack of military adventurism exhibited in the region more than three millennia ago by «cleansing» the region of its Palestinian and Lebanese inhabitants by means of bombs and rockets and «targeted assassinations» today. Given the support of the leadership of the United States and certain of its poodles, it seems that they are going to be allowed to get away with these crimes, today, just as they have ever since the war of 1947-48. Wonder what the archaeologists of three millennia hence - in the unlikely case that any such will be around - will have to say about the events now proceeding before our eyes….

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By Sam, August 5, 2006 at 9:27 pm #
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You don’t expect a rouge nation like Isreal to respect human lives. I say ROUGE because Israel has always defied the international community. A prime example, the 2 resolutions by the UN, 242 and 338 in which they were accepted by the Israeli government and specificlly demanded Isael withdrawal to the June 5th 1967 border.
Israel is still dragging its feet, hoping somthing in the world will change so it can keep the land. In the meantime, Israel is killing innocent civilians in the name of fighting terror in which it created. This is the heart of the whole problem.

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By Fadel Abdallah, August 5, 2006 at 6:47 pm #
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• So what’s new under the sun on Israeli crimes?! Actually Israel was created through one of the biggest crimes in human history while the world was morally and legally slumbering!
• To understand what Israel has done and continue to do, just go to their peaceful Bible and read under Joshua; just one example:
• “‘Shout; for Jehovah has given you the city (Jericho). And the city and all that is within it shall be devoted to Jehovah for destruction; only Rahav, the harlot and all who are with her in her house shall live, because she hid the messengers that we sent. But you keep yourselves from the things devoted to destruction, lest when you have devoted them you take any of the devoted things and make the camp of Israel a thing for destruction, and bring trouble upon it.’” …. “So the people shouted, and the trumpets were blown. As soon as the people heard the sound of the trumpet, the people raised a great shout, and the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city. Then they utterly destroyed all in the city, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep and asses, with the edge of the sword.” (Joshua 6:15-21)
• This is just one example of so many in their Bible that underline the theology of killing and destruction the Israelis are known for. Notice how only the harlot Rahav and her customers were worthy of being saved by the God of Israel.
• By analogy, in modern times, Rahav and her customers represent the United States, Britain and all those who are cheering Israel’s theology of destruction and killing.
• A final marginal cultural note: The U.S. has constantly been called by angry Muslim and Arab demonstraters, in times of crisis, as the “Great Satan.” This is something that most people know about. However, that the U.S. is called a “whore” or “harlot,” under the same circumstances, is related to this story of the Bible.

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By d, August 5, 2006 at 5:06 pm #
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Many many civillians have been killed in Israel?
Now there is some news.
Why is Hezbollah a terrorist, and Israel not?
Hamas, Hezbollah are not the same as Osama bin forgotton club. But they do have the same bitch.
Against the USA. What would be the name of your terrorist group, if Russia invaded the US?
They dont hate our freedoms, they hate our two-faces.

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By Cristian, August 5, 2006 at 4:33 pm #
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Just Me said:

“It’s interesting to note the low literacy of the majority of your readers.

Rancid sites attract that level of morality”

What I find even more interesting is how acrobatic a logical chain you must have followed to link literacy to morality.

Oh, and you could have used a period at the end of your sentence. Not that it matters, but since you were so quick to judge others on their writing, I reckoned you would appreciate someone pointing out your oversight. In the interest of science, of course.

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By Fart and Parcel, August 5, 2006 at 3:42 pm #
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Israel’s aggressive push into Southern Lebanon may be about precious water, a valued commodity in the Middle East. An article posted on counterbias.com by Mathew Maavak says, “Israel may permanently cross the Hasbani and Litani rivers it has long coveted in Lebanon; a dormant casus belli that is rarely mentioned in the media.” I found this link on
lookingglassnews.org. Other relevant information pertaining to withering Israeli public support for the war can be found at antiwar.com   Apparently, Hizbollah is much more organized and well-armed than Israel anticipated. Like the U.S., Israel’s leader, Ehud Olmert, is politically green and listened to an inexperienced minister of defense. Bush, whose foreign policy expertise is nonexistent, took the advice of Rumsfeld re Iraq and we have seen the havoc wrought by Rumsfeld’s incompetence and arrogance.

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By vee, August 5, 2006 at 2:25 pm #
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In response to: “Mad As Hell”


You’re a fucking Hypocrite just out there trying to confuse the world with half-truths and outright lies, while people die needlessly. You must truly believe that God favors your kind. When in fact, you’re just one of many groups of humans beings which are the results of tens of thousands of years of mutation and adoption from the original African. Who must be the true favorite of God if such bullshit about favorites were true?
We all came from the same origin and we all live in one shrinking Earth!
Thick heads learn from your history already; your kind participated in one holocaust as the victims now you’re the perpetrator in this latest bid for racial/religious supremacy.

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By Stephen Smoliar, August 5, 2006 at 1:12 pm #
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Ben Abbott has raised a point that gets to the very core of Judaism.  This issue was explored by Ahad Ha-Am in his interpretation of the concept of the “chosen people.”  Ahad Ha-Am interprets this concept as “the religious idea that God had chosen Israel ‘to make him high above all the nations,’ not in the sense of forcible domination—for Israel is ‘the fewest of all peoples’—but in the sense of moral development, ‘to be His own treasure ...; and that thou shouldst keep all His commandments’:  in other words, to realise through the ages the highest type of morality, and to bear for all time the burden of the most exacting moral obligations.”  Perhaps some future historian will chronicle the State of Israel as a narrative of the “chosen people” determined to convince that God had made the wrong choice.

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By darby1936, August 5, 2006 at 11:42 am #
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The cable networks love to pimp a new war.

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By felicity smith, August 5, 2006 at 10:29 am #
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Mad_As_Hell and others:  More often than not, this site includes a Link at the bottom of an article.  It is assumed you know what to do with it (and it doesn’t mean to eat it).  If you had clicked the Link you would have read that Human Rights Watch asked the UN to establish a commission to examine both Israeli attacks on Lebanon and Hezbollah attacks on Israel.  Also, previously HRW has admonished Hezbollah for its indiscriminate killing of Israeli civilians.

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By mehrrh, August 5, 2006 at 8:19 am #
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The reporting of the war in Lebanon IS one-sided, indeed.  We hear of the number of rockets fired into Israel from Hezbollah, but there must be too many rockets, missiles and bombs from Israel into Lebanon cities to count, because we don’t hear of that.
Israel is the aggressor here - Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, all right, and individuals should be tracked down by criminal investigation.  Killing civilians and destroying cities in Lebanon has turned world opinion against Israel - and rightly so.
The US is not without responsibility here.

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By Lenore, August 5, 2006 at 6:27 am #
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I’m appauled at your reporting re Israel . Please Remove from any further mailings to the above e mail address

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By Frikkenkids, August 5, 2006 at 6:00 am #
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To Mad As Hell.

To start off on the right foot, let me first say that any terrorist killing any civilian is an unexcusable crime. 

However, shouldn’t a country that has signed the Geneva conventions be held to a higher standard than a terrorist organization?

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By Stephen Smoliar, August 5, 2006 at 5:54 am #
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To Just Me:  I think it is more important to note that this site attracts readers whose PRIMARY literacy is not English but who still feel a need to reflect on the material provided and articulate those reflections in English, even when that is not the language in which they are most fluent!

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By Ben Abbott, August 5, 2006 at 3:49 am #
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Mad_As_Hell,

What does Hezbollah’s terrorist acts have to do with the Isreal’s killing of civilians?

The article is with regards to the actions of Isreal. The are supposed to be above such atrocity. We all know the terrorists are not, but what is alarming is that Isreal and the US appear to be descending to the level of the terrorists.

Who do we objectively tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys?

Regards

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By Just Me, August 4, 2006 at 11:57 pm #
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It’s interesting to note the low literacy of the majority of your readers.


Rancid sites attract that level of morality

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By Lawan Isah, August 4, 2006 at 11:04 pm #
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Bush of America is the first and the worst ever terrosit in the world. he destroy Afganstan, Iraq etc and now we realised his ambition to destroy Iran & Syria. that is why he is presently backing the killings of innocent lives in Lebanon, thus, makes th arabs world would reacts. Let the Bush of America remember the downfall of Hitler & co. we were believed that very soon bush & co will go down like trade centre of america. because BUSH is not god.

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By rachelle, August 4, 2006 at 7:33 pm #
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What does it matter what anyone “thinks” at this point?

I am so sad, I can barely think at all. I either need to totally switch off from the news, or do something totally uncharacteristic.

I can’t take much more sad news from Lebanon and Israeli/ Hezbollah bombing. I think I shall simply wither away and die, which I’ve alread done a thousand times over Iraq and Afghanistan.

What (the fuck!) is the matter with everyone?

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By Mad As Hell, August 4, 2006 at 7:19 pm #
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Over 2000 rockets have been fired into Israel, particularly at inhabited areas, indiscriminately.

Many, many Israeli civilians have been killed by these, every single day

Yet, somehow, Human Rights Watch doesn’t think that Hezbollah has committed war crimes by deliberately attacking civilians, only Israel.

Hypocracy reigns supreme. 

And Human Rights Watch credibility sinks under water…..

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