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Molly Ivins: Run Bill Moyers for President, Seriously

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Posted on Jul 24, 2006

By Molly Ivins

AUSTIN, Texas—Dear desperate Democrats:

Here’s what we do. We run Bill Moyers for president. I am serious as a stroke about this. It’s simple, cheap and effective, and it will move the entire spectrum of political discussion in this country. Moyers is the only public figure who can take the entire discussion and shove it toward moral clarity just by being there.

The poor man who is currently our president has reached such a point of befuddlement that he thinks stem cell research is the same as taking human lives, but that 40,000 dead Iraqi civilians are progress toward democracy.

Bill Moyers has been grappling with how to fit moral issues to political issues ever since he left Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and went to work for Lyndon Johnson in the teeth of the Vietnam War. Moyers worked for years in television, seriously addressing the most difficult issues of our day. He has studied all different kinds of religions and different approaches to spirituality. He’s no Holy Joe, but he is a serious man. He opens minds—he doesn’t scare people. He includes people in, not out. And he sees through the dark search for a temporary political advantage to the clear ground of the Founders. He listens and he respects others.

Do I think Bill Moyers can win the presidency? No, that seems like a very long shot to me. The nomination? No, that seems like a very long shot to me.

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Then why run him? Think, imagine, if seven or eight other Democratic candidates, all beautifully coiffed and triangulated and carefully coached to say nothing that will offend anyone, stand on stage with Bill Moyers in front of cameras for a national debate ? what would happen? Bill Moyers would win, would walk away with it, just because he doesn’t triangulate or calculate or trim or try to straddle the issues. Bill Moyers doesn’t have to endorse a constitutional amendment against flag burning or whatever wedge issue du jour Republicans have come up with. He is not afraid of being called “unpatriotic.” And besides, he is a wise and a kind man who knows how to talk on TV.

It won’t take much money—file for him in a couple of early primaries and just get him into the debates. Think about the potential Democratic candidates. Every single one of them needs spine, needs political courage. What Moyers can do is not only show them what it looks like and indeed what it is, but also how people respond to it. I’m damned if I want to go through another presidential primary with everyone trying to figure out who has the best chance to win instead of who’s right. I want to vote for somebody who’s good and brave and who should win.

One time in the Johnson years, LBJ called on Moyers to say the blessing at a dinner. “Speak up, Bill,” Lyndon roared. “I can’t hear you.” Moyers replied, “I wasn’t speaking to you, sir.” That would be the point of a run by Moyers: He doesn’t change to whom he is speaking just because some president is yelling at him.

To let Moyers know what you think of this idea, write him at P.O. Box 309, Bernardsville, NJ 07924.

To find out more about Molly Ivins and see works by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate website, www.creators.com.


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By BuyMoreAmmo, February 1, 2008 at 4:54 pm Link to this comment
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Paul, Your comment still rings true 18 months later…. no changes….still a spineless Congress with Pelosi on her knees daily and Reid a bigger pussy than Pelosi, and Chimpy McFlightsuit grinning hand in hand with Darth Cheney.

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By Homer Peters, February 1, 2008 at 4:39 pm Link to this comment
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Wish she were still with us.

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By lawlessone, March 17, 2007 at 4:40 pm Link to this comment
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An entity called Unity08.org has formed to try and draft candidates for President outside the party process.  Check it out.  I is my hope that Bill Moyers be strenuously courted by them.

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By f, March 16, 2007 at 4:43 pm Link to this comment
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Yes We must heavily pressure Bill to run.

I hope he runs for president but not as a Green

nor an independent. I hope that Moyers to join

Democratic Race in 2008. Challenging HR Clinton

and Barak Obama.

His age(74) would not be a natter.

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By NETTIE, July 31, 2006 at 10:31 am Link to this comment
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Molly, yes, heaven, yes!  Run, Bill, run!  Just to keep everyone somewhat honest.  BUT, as Pee-wee Herman said, “everyone has a big but,” WHO runs, WHO nails the confirmation, WHO actually is enthroned in the not-so-very White House, is MOOT if nothing is done IN EVERY STATE about the voting machine DEBACLE!!  ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE——-THAT IS COUNTED ACCURATELY.  AND NO ONE KEPT AWAY FROM THE POLLS WITH SNAKE IN THE GRASS TACTICS.  MINORITIES (WHICH INCLUDES EVANGELICALS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR HEADS SCREWED ON STRAIGHT) AND EVERYONE WHO CAREs ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS, NEEDS TO GET INVOLVED.  PUSH YOUR CONGRESS PERSONS, BE AN OBSERVER, LEARN TO OBTAIN AN ACCURATE COUNT.  BLACKBOXVOTING.ORG, JOHN CONYERS, GREG PALAST—-C’MON, DO IT, OR THIS YEAR AND ‘08 WILL FIND US ROARING IN RAGE AGAIN.  Which accomplishes nothing, of course.

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By Spinoza750, July 30, 2006 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment
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>>>>>O, and Spitoza-why don’t you like the comparison of Nader to Buchanan? Buchanan like most anti-semites <<<<<

Hey, Mr. Foxman, You are a true liberal! er: Fascist, did I get that right?

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By ed_tru_lib, July 29, 2006 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment
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Sweetalice-have to asume you’re kidding. Otherwise you’re less in touch with this planet than Spinoza! Cheney a “jew proxy”??!! Seems to me we have a few Christians in positions of some influence right now. And a Moyers administration would probably include more Jews than any previous one. Bill will be looking for the best and the brightest. Uh hold on a minute-make that the finest and the smartest.

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By sweetalice, July 29, 2006 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment
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Molly is so well mannered.  She has too much upbringing to just come out and say it but what she is trying to say is, lets vote Christians back in and get the jews and israel and their proxies out.

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By ed_tru_lib, July 29, 2006 at 2:08 pm Link to this comment
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GW-great post. Great message in the true FDR/JFK/MLKJr/RFK/Moyers liberal tradition. As Bobby said-“Most see things as they are and try to explain why-I dream things that aren’t, but could be, and ask why not?”

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By ed_tru_lib, July 29, 2006 at 2:00 pm Link to this comment
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O, and Spitoza-why don’t you like the comparison of Nader to Buchanan? Buchanan like most anti-semites, also denies the right of Israel to simply live in peace, without having to shoot BACK to defend itself against mindless hatred, whether from terrorists, or Naderites, who were never of the left, except in the sense of having left their anti-psychotic medication where they can’t find it. Why can’t the left unite?!-ask Ralph.

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By ed_tru_lib, July 29, 2006 at 1:52 pm Link to this comment
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Spinoza-as i said about you before-hopeless; in this case a synonym for what you and your kind always have been, and always will be-losers. Gore lost New Hampshire to the Exxon/Halliburton ticket by fewer than 2000 votes. Even without Nader displaying Buchanan’s common sense and patriotism, at least that many would have voted for Gore. And if Ralphie had had Buchanan’s decency as well he would have said what Buchanan said-if you’re not going to vote for me, vote for Bush-Gore would have received many more of the Nader (moron) vote and would have carried Florida as well as New Hampshire, not that he even would have needed it. Nader, and other simpletons, dupes, or outright traitors like him, and you, gave us the Rove/Ashcroft regime. Live (or preferably don’t) with it. O and good spelling!

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By Spinoza750, July 29, 2006 at 12:41 am Link to this comment
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ed_tru_lib


What is it about liberals that makes them basically dishonest people?  Right wingers most always seem to pull together but liberals hate anyone to the left of them even if only slightly. Ralph Nader did not hurt Gore, Gore hurt Gore. Most people who voted for Nader would never have voted for Gore, they wouldn’t have voted. Why can’t you creeps get that into your thick heads and shut up already about Nader?

Anyhow you didn’t even address the main point I was making.  The American polity is so far to the right (Mainly due to the corporate control of the media) that there is not even the chance of a wishy washy liberal winning. Lamont did not even have the courage to say that Israel was wrong and immoral and barbaric in their dealing with Hamas, Hezbollah and Lebanon) I want to understand how liberals intend to address that issue or does the NeoConLukudnikIsraelLobby always get a pass?.  Liberals are out of my mind lately. I just looked at Juan Cole’s blog and he laments that Hezbollah is shooting missiles at Israel.  Why shouldn’t they? Israel is shooting at them and their people and killing a whole lot more people. Please explain for me why some liberals seem to have this strong affinity for the powerful?

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By GW=MCHammered, July 28, 2006 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment
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A scene from “A PRESIDENT FOR THE PEOPLE”
(we can still dream, can’t we?)

We join midway a televised speech from the desk of the President of the United States who stares into the camera, eyes radiant with deep-running character and concern.


              (PRESIDENT)
As your President, I will not sit idle and watch your heard-earned, blood-won American spirit be broken. Not by bottom-line minded corporations, their incursive Capitol Hill lobbyists, not by autocratic Supreme Court judges or pro-globalization economists. Especially not by your own elected representatives. This is not what America stands for.

Today I ask you to do for yourself what I cannot do for you. I ask you to take back your economy, to win back your country. Beginning this Monday, I ask that with the exception of emergency personnel, medical professionals, utility workers, and the armed forces, I ask that no one. . .

I repeat, no one goes to work for one full week. That no one pays any bill until a month past due. You eat only what’s in your cupboards, not a soul buys or sells a thing unless absolutely necessary. And watch only one-half hour of news each day. Do this to disrupt the bent wheels of socioeconomics in favor of reform that strengthens American families.

Only by sending this clear message, that the working class holds the knowledge that the power of GOD, the Good Ol’ Dollar, lies solely in their hands, will these too-often-undemocratic forces be impelled to slow their antagonistic momentum. But it is completely up to you, the descendants of our forefathers, our welcomed immigrants, and still holders of the American dream, to rightfully defend your independence, to champion all of your declared and constitutional rights. It is up to you. . .

Thank you. Godspeed.

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By drbombay, July 28, 2006 at 9:41 am Link to this comment
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I’ve been saying this for years now!!!!

whatever it takes, make moyers run!!!!!

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By Stephen Smoliar, July 27, 2006 at 4:49 pm Link to this comment
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Exasperated (and others):  There is only one sentence I remember from Kennedy’s PROFILES IN COURAGE.  It was from the Introduction (as I recall):  “Every mother wants her son to grow up to be President;  no mother wants her son to be a politician.”  We assume that no politician is good, moral, or decent;  and we assume that no one today can be President WITHOUT being a politician.  Have we any evidence to the contrary?

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By E=mcThis!, July 27, 2006 at 4:08 pm Link to this comment
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delusions
agitation
poor judgement
increased risk-taking
narcissism/grandiosity
denial anything is wrong
need for instant gratification, attention, and approval

You can’t reason with life-of-the-party mania in an individual, administration or even in a society. And if you can’t intervene, you must wait for it to run its turgid course. Hopefully, we’re nearing the end of this frenetic phase and the afflicted will drift back into their innocuous psychosis. Only then can the responsible begin the incredible aftermath clean up.

The Responsible:
Moyers/Feingold
Maher
Stewart
Colbert

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By Exasperated, July 27, 2006 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment
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Why must we alway fall into the mistaken concept that someone is “too good, moral, decent, etc.” to be elected, or if elected, be effectual. Until we revise such pesimistic attitudes we shall continue to get what we deserve.

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By Stephen Smoliar, July 27, 2006 at 10:55 am Link to this comment
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Keeping up with Molly’s columns (and the comments) is getting to be a full-time job!  I see that she has picked up on the fear issue in her latest!  We may yet lick the mass media!

Meanwhile, Truthdig has to figure out a way to put the “stop receiving notifications” link further away from the link to the article about which you are being notified;  good journalists are not necessarily good interface designers!

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By ed_tru_lib, July 27, 2006 at 10:02 am Link to this comment
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With his his intelligence, experience, and decency, Moyers would almost surely be a fine president. He might even be a fine candidate. Two things that the last left-alternative candidate wasn’t, or couldn’t have been. It just seems too incredible that anyone would still be suggesting that, as Spinoza750 suggests, Nader actually run again. It was “good and honest” Ralph who didn’t withdraw, when he saw he was hurting Gore, the way Pat Buchanan did, when he saw he was hurting Bush. When Pat Buchanan has more class and patriotism than you, stick to to consumer protection, but please don’t run for president.

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By ed_tru_lib, July 27, 2006 at 9:40 am Link to this comment
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Spinoza-sadly, but no longer pathetically (since its to late for any sympathy for your kind, only for our country) you will never learn. MOyers would indeed be a fine president, and probably not as bad would a candidate as Nader was. Nader an “honest, intelligent man” man?? Pat Buchanan showed more intelligence, class, and especially patriotism in 2000 when he saw his 2% in the polls was hurting Bush and essentially withdrew. If Nader had EVER really been anything besides a selfish self-serving egomaniac he would have done the same, and we would be living in a much safer, cleaner, and cooler world now. And you, or anyone who claims to be sane, are STILL suggesting he run??
Hopeless!

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By stef gordon, July 27, 2006 at 8:22 am Link to this comment
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D’oh!  I should have made those “BILL MOYERS FOR PRESIDENT” t-shirts when i thought of it 2 years ago.  Mr. Moyers is my hero.  His words bring me to tears.  He is the most thoughtful, engaging, compassionate and intelligent man I have ever come across in the world of news, television, politics and popular culture.  As an atheist, it is such a pleasure to have so much respect for a man that has a background in faith and religion and yet is still searching for reason. He is respectful of those of us who do not need a higher power.  But more importantly, his wisdom goes way beyond his work on faith.  Now that he is back on TV he remains a beacon of hope in the world of empty journalism. The way he is vilified by the “Right” in this country is just more proof that he is speaking truth.  Oh, if only.

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By pal, July 27, 2006 at 7:32 am Link to this comment
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I love the idea…Why because like sharpton he didnt win but he got his message out….He got to talk to the people and he is the one to do it..Wish I could get an email..I know this would be hard on Moyers , and I dont expect him to win, but I expect Moyers is just as afraid of this adminstration as we are…I would support him..

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By CAPTAIN BOB, July 27, 2006 at 7:24 am Link to this comment
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It might be far more effective to appoint Bill Moyers National Moderator of all political debates between presidential candidates within parties and between parties.  He would not take obfuscation and lies as answers.

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By Spinoza 750, July 26, 2006 at 11:14 pm Link to this comment
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Ralph Nader has similar views as Moyers and he has a lot of good experience and followers. He is also a good and honest person He should run also but what good will that do?

Wait he already did that!

Not until we overturn the fascist system will it matter who runs.

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By Mineda McCleave, July 26, 2006 at 7:23 pm Link to this comment
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Molly, your brilliance shines through in your writing and speaking.  I just saw you on the Walter Kronkite Special on PBS tonight.  Bill Moyers for president is one of the best ideas I have heard in 68 years.  Before FAITH AND REASON,
and his NOW program, I suggested to PBS that they needed Bill Moyers for a program similar to the long ago Steve Allen’s “Meeting of the Minds”.  Bringing it up to date by interviewing our best minds and hearts about current events.  NOW came close to what I had in mind.  He may not be able to win, in this strange political process we have, but if a Democrat should get in, he would make a perfect presidentail advisor.
More power to you and those who agree with your choice. I will write to him, too, to let him know many of us think he is well suited to help get us out of the problems we have created.

Sincerely,
Minjoye

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By Blue in a Red State, July 26, 2006 at 7:04 pm Link to this comment
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At first reading, I thought, “What a fantastic idea!  Bill Moyers is one of the smartest, most thoughtful, most morally grounded human beings on the planet!”  But he would be an ineffectual President in the mold of Jimmy Carter, because he would not be willing to play the dirty power games necessary to get things done.

Far better for nearly any of the current batch of candidates to run, but with a much better PR machine behind them.  Find someone who makes three- to five-word slogans better than Karl Rove and who can develop a choral response of those slogans better than—- um——Karl Rove, and put this person behind whoever floats to the top as the Democratic candidate. Meanwhile, rally the ground troops and lawyers to forestall the already-in-motion attempts to steal the election in key states.  AND MAKE THESE ATTEMPTS TO STEAL THE ELECTION HIGHLY PUBLIC—talked about in every 6:00 newscast for weeks.

Then, when the Dem wins, install Bill Moyers in the Cabinet, with the title of Chief Advisor to the President.

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By Dick Manoukian, July 26, 2006 at 6:48 pm Link to this comment
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I’m tired, frustrated, angry, upset, cynical; all the same things that most of the readers of these comments are.  It just didn’t start in January of 2001 either, this is just the latest and greatest iteration of some of the worst policies ever to be part of a political party platform and to be foisted on an unsuspecting electorate.  Democrats have to admit that the Republicans have been honing their skills for almost forty years and have been quite adept at achieving just what they set out to do.  While they have been working in concert like a pack of wolves in a coordinated predation, we have been as organized as a bunch of free spirited felines high on catnip.  One does not start or stop a juggernaught like a political party overnight.  The only hope Democrats have is that the outrageous and egregious excesses of this administration (need I enumerate them here), will have awakened enough of the intellectually uninquisitive on the right, that a few will cross over to deliver either the House or the Senate (lest I pray for both) and restore a system of checks and balances that has been on a six year hiatus.  If we can’t recoup at least one of the two in ‘06, the Democratic Party as we know it, has cast it’s last ballot; and lots of us will be learning the words to “O Canada”!!

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By BF2, July 26, 2006 at 6:18 pm Link to this comment
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Wayne Fisher on 7/26 at 3:16 am:

You sir are why most republicans are referred to as TFMs!

BF2

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By Betsy Toll, July 26, 2006 at 6:17 pm Link to this comment
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Great idea! Moyers is the one person who bridges divides without compromising his soul in the process.  Pleeeeease say you will, Bill!

Gore will be far more effective out of office—Gandhi knew this, and so did Dr. King. If he really cares about climate chaos (his time as VP sure didn’t show it), then staying 100% OUT of electoral politics—and that includes no stumping for the generally awful crew of Dems either—is his best avenue for dedicating his intelligence, skill, and passion to climate issues alone. He won’t be effective on climate from the White House, count on it.

I hope some a groundswell can build to get Moyers into some primaries and shift the whole tone of political discourse onto something resembling a sane, reasonable, humble but responsibile track.

Where do we sign up?

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By Paul Weeks, July 26, 2006 at 2:55 pm Link to this comment
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OK. Al Gore for President; Bill Moyers. Vice President; Molly Ivins for Press Secretary or campaign chairperson—wow! We can dream impossible dreams, can’t we?

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By Saul2006, July 26, 2006 at 2:08 pm Link to this comment
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Melody

Moyers is actually an ordained Baptist minister.
Unlike Christo/fascists which you might represent he does have an open not a closed mind.

For what your rabbi, minister or priest will never tell go to http://www.religionquestioned.com  which has an offer to shut down based on the misinformation given Christians about the OT Messiah message
Melody give it a shot or get your clergy do take a shot at closing it down

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By Spinoza750, July 26, 2006 at 1:48 pm Link to this comment
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People the war is widening to a world war

Listen Act

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14195.htm

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By Ira M, July 26, 2006 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment
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The post by Chris #15307 was SPOT ON!! It does not matter a shred who runs on logic, caring, or idea’s that will move our country forward. We are at the mercy of the stupid, the ignorant, and the religious right.

Jesus was wrong, the meek did not inherit the earth, it was the morons.

Ira

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By Rev. Dave, July 26, 2006 at 12:57 pm Link to this comment
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I recently listened to Bill Moyers several times on “Faith and Reason.” He has way too much integrity and is far too honest, kind and gentle to make a serious run for President. Unfortunately. No, this nation will most likely stick with the Bush types. (Boorish, dishonest, imbicilic, etc. etc. etc.)

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By Stephen Smoliar, July 26, 2006 at 12:48 pm Link to this comment
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The question of whether “idiots” should participate in the electoral system is (at least) as old as Alexander Hamilton.  While it is probably true that most people who make electoral decisions are not really informed about the decisions they are making, I still tend to side with Churchill in declaring that our system is flawed but better than any alternatives.  I remember once reading a piece by Gore Vidal in which he suggested that we go over to a Parliamentary system, but he wrote that before Thatcher became Prime Minister.  I, for one, never felt that either Thatcher OR Blair was a particularly good data point in support of the British process!

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By Spinoza750, July 26, 2006 at 12:31 pm Link to this comment
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> I made my first post last night. This morning I was notified that I had gotten 12 responses to my post, yet I could find none of them. Where would they be? >

> Clicking on the link of the notice just takes me to the top of the topic, with the posts listed chronolocically, from the latest. >

What am I missing? >

Nothing much, the system is all messed up. I received over 30 notices that I got a response but there were no thirty posts.  The powers that be should get rid of the moderation and send out (1) (one)  notice of a post no matter how many posts came in.

Also there should be an easier numbering system to follow.

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By James Morehouse, July 26, 2006 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment
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Mr. Wayne Fisher:  you sir, are a fool and a moron.  I hope you, your children, your children’s children all enjoy paying back the national debt, wallow in our national loss of credibility, suck the moral black hole created by the current administration, and laugh, laugh, laugh because that’s what morons do.

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By  Jonathan Lutz, July 26, 2006 at 10:31 am Link to this comment
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Run Bill Moyers with Al Gore as his running mate.  Could Moyers stand up to Karl Rove’s politics and messaging - absolutely.  Moyers would do it easily and in a way that would demonstrate to the average individual how empty, shallow and misleading the GOP has been.

And to Wayne Fisher calling everyone here an idiot, I say look in the mirror fool.  You’ve probably supported Bush 100% while he’s transformed a $236 Billion budget surplus into a $400+ billion deficit; waged illegal wars based on lies at the cost of 2500 and counting servicemen; violated constitutional rights of every American through illegal surveillence; perpetuated the Ugly American global view by acting like a boorish groper at the G-8 summit; Sacrificed the “American Dream” in the name of corporate interests, etc, etc…

If you can’t see these things happening to your country, you’re not only foolish, but you’re also ignorant.

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By Louis Houston, July 26, 2006 at 10:12 am Link to this comment
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I agree wholeheartedly with Molly.  Bill Moyers should run for president, if not to win, to show the American people what real intelligence and integrity is.

During my last school year at North Texas State College, I slept about twelve feet away from Bill.  Actually, his dorm room was a floor below mine.  He was a poor, very bright kid whose writing ability was demonstrated even then in the campus paper and the college magazine.  My roommate was from a small town near Marshall, Texas - Bill’s hometown - and Bill hitched a ride with us a couple of times; I remember him getting out in front of a barbershop.

As a Texan who had spent the summer of 1949 working near Alice, Texas, and being familiar with the crookedness of the Duke of Duvall County, George Parr, who helped Lyndon Johnson win an election with stuffed ballot boxes, I could never vote for Lyndon.  I was therefore disappointed in Bill Moyers when he went to work for Johnson and eventually became his press secretary.

Moyers went on to fulfill his promise by becoming an outstanding newsman, television journalist, writer and speaker.  His knowledge of history is mindboggling; his research is always extensive; and his analytical ability is sharp and definitive.

Bill, do it!

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By Margaret Currey, July 26, 2006 at 9:44 am Link to this comment
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Molly

Moyers will not run, for president, the person who should be nominated is Al Gore, he should have been president before 9/11, I am certain that Al has a great chance.

Marge, Portland, Oregon

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By ed_tru_lib, July 26, 2006 at 9:28 am Link to this comment
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Its a pleasure to see the realistic responses by Mad as Hell & several others, but as usual the majority are by the same pathetic Naderites who gave us Bush, and would give us Kucinich as our nominee, and ANY republican as president. Hillary can win, and won’t be FDR (or Eleanor) but she won’t be a slightly sanitized “triangulated” (whatever that means) Anne Coulter either, and the fall into the Nader-Bush-Rove-Fox “news”- created abyss our nation and world are heading for can be postponed a little longer, and perhaps indefinitely. Hillary for president. Kucinich for Secretary of HHS, Moyers for new JK Galbraith, Bush & company for Leavenworth. (O and Nader for Forest Lawn, preferably buried in a corvair)

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By Chris, July 26, 2006 at 9:12 am Link to this comment
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It’s not the candidates who are the problem. It’s the electorate. It’s the citizens of this nation. It is us. Don’t blame Clinton or Gore or Kerry. 40-50% of the voters voted for Bush (twice) and his simplton’s message. Why? Because we are ignorant. Candidates are responding to the electorate. I don’t care if your candidate is a combination of Obama, Madison, Ghandi, and Socrates - she loses everytime.
Moyers won’t change a thing. He would be great to watch and listen to.. But in the end the idiots rule.

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By RG Johnson, July 26, 2006 at 9:11 am Link to this comment
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Ms. Ivins, fellow desperate Democrats…

With all due respect…at least the respect of one desperate Democratic writer to another…

Al Gore will emerge as the consensus candidate in 2008…

The foundation for this is already in place, the inevitability of it will become more and more apparent as the campaign approaches. No other Democrat can speak from the same experience and no other Democrat has spoken out as he has.

By consensus I mean by mutual agreement, by the endorsement of his candidacy by all of the potential rivals, including a much relieved Hillary Clinton, and his nomination by acclimation on the first ballot.

The poetic symmetry of Al Gore being elected President to clean up the mess created by the man who was appointed President by the Supreme Court in the wake of the theft of Florida is compelling.

The fact of life that bothers Republicans even more is the demonstrated ability of the netroots to jump start a Presidential campaign and the expressed desire of a large number of us to do so for Al Gore. Combined with Gore’s positions on the Iraq War and the illegal expansion of the Executive’s power, the spotlight on the looming environmental crisis creates an agenda based on moral imperatives, right versus wrong, rather than right versus left.

Any contest fought on this higher moral plane, as opposed to such pressing issues as flag burning, the preservation of the assets of the very wealthy and the protection of marriage from the onslaught of gate crashing homosexuals will result in a Republican rout, and most of them know it.

Everybody except Bill Frist and Denny Hassert, apparently…

Now I know that all the snarkers and kneekickers out there are probably oiling up the old keyboards to denounce my little bit of poetry…and I know it sounds like a pipe dream, sounds implausible… yada, yada…But considering the course of events over the last several years and the real urgency of our situation, it doesn’t sound as kooky as electing Newt Gingrich or Bill Frist, ideas that the mainstream media finds completely plausible. Why even the elevation of a third Bush, Jeb, to the purple is not beyond their consideration, wasting considerable paper and ink over the last few months.

So…consider where we were on Halloween night 2000 and where we are now and then tell me it can’t happen…

RG Johnson
RGJ/Dallas112263  

Al Gore will be elected President in 2008…
Not because he is running.
But because he is LEADING!

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By Geoffrey Knobl, July 26, 2006 at 8:49 am Link to this comment
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Finally, someone at least some of the media pays attention to saying what I’ve been saying for over a year.  Seriously.

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By havocmom, July 26, 2006 at 8:26 am Link to this comment
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OK, Molly, I sent him a letter like you suggested.

Hope he has to get a bigger PO box soon.

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By Melody, July 26, 2006 at 8:09 am Link to this comment
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Yes!!!  Please, please, please run Bill Moyer for President.  His Christian bashing rhetoric will turn off the 85% of the voters!!!  This is a BRILLIANT IDEA Molly!! 

Yes, please run Bill Moyers for President.  He will be even easier to defeat than that buffoon you ran last time, John Kerry.

LOL LOL LOL LOL

Signed,

A Republican who supports Democrats running Bill Moyers for President

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By Steve Juniper, July 26, 2006 at 7:50 am Link to this comment
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I made my first post last night. This morning I was notified that I had gotten 12 responses to my post, yet I could find none of them. Where would they be?
  Clicking on the link of the notice just takes me to the top of the topic, with the posts listed chronolocically, from the latest.
  What am I missing?

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By Wisdom First, July 26, 2006 at 7:36 am Link to this comment
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Well, absolutely, someone like Bill Moyers, Kucinich or Howard Dean should run.  The problem here is that individuals such as these are “real” candidates—real, as opposed to top people in the Democratic Party who have either sold their souls long ago, or seem to have been quietly propped up there by Republicans.  I think we truly have a one-party system in the U.S. now, but not a lot of Americans realize it. 

You can see the truth rear its ugly head with people like Lieberman and BOTH Hillary and Bill Clinton.  Call it a conspiracy theory, but it seems quite possible that Bill and Hillary are part of the neocon’s twisted plans.  In other words, if the neocons running the Republican Party at this point can pull off a plan where they prop the Clintons up as Democrats (as well as Lieberman and who knows WHO else), and even villify them publicly to seal in that belief, then they can also prop Hillary up as a Presidential candidate in 2008 against another neocon (Republican) candidate, and no matter who wins, they win. 

Some reading this may think it’s absurd, but the sheer, gargantuan amount of power and money that can be controlled by someone in the White House is reason enough to be that calculating.  Look: They’ve stolen the election by a variety of means already; they try to destroy anyone who speaks up against their evil plans; they get the IRS to threaten religious institutions whose sermons speak up against the Bush administration; they lied to the American people to get us into a pre-planned Iraqi war; they may have their hand in the initiation of the current Israeli-Lebanese-Hezbolleh crisis.  They do everything in an illegal, underhanded, black ops way.  What ethical dilemma, may I ask, would stop Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, et al. from propping up fake Democratic candidates?  I’ll answer that: Nothing.

This leads me back to the Bill Moyers thing.  I’ve said for some time that we are WAY past the point of politics as usual.  Because of the current election-stealing and propaganda apparati in place and the dire domestic and international problems that face us now, many of them caused by Bush-Cheney directly, we must put up candidates that are “real”; that say everything that needs to be said without consideration of what a political consultant thinks will make them win.  These candidates will not win, but we must understand we’re not going to win anyway.  The point of putting Bill or someone of similar moral standing up is to get the most people possible to hear what they have to say.

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By MHendrikx, July 26, 2006 at 6:45 am Link to this comment
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First, I think we view the value of “win” too narrowly. It’s not always the one who crosses the finish line that wins. There are classic examples of this. I believe, like others here, that the American electorate would win in the long-run when they get to see how “real” men handle difficult issues with compassion. For example, if women really want to “win” they must support Bill Moyers. It’s no accident that the degradation of women in US society is directly related to capitalist control over both production and reproduction. The color-line in America was created by the legal subordination of women to control their reproductive capabilities and thereby to permit the total enslavement of Africans. The issue of abortion is our day can be tied to Bush’s “ownership society” in the same way, where women and ethnic minorities are again the target for those who seek to maintain white supremacy and the hegemony of predatory capitalism. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

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By Jan A, July 26, 2006 at 6:45 am Link to this comment
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Back in the 90s I worked in a bookstore and we were playing a game about who we would like to be marooned on an island with.  I said, “Bill Moyers.”  My co-workers thought it was an odd choice.  They were selecting Bono and George Clooney. So I added Robert Redford.

How about Moyers/Redford in ‘08?

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By Bonzo, July 26, 2006 at 6:27 am Link to this comment
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We had a candidate with spine, who spoke the truth; his name was Howard Dean and the Democratic Party did its best to assassinate him; even when he was chosen to head the Dems, they run around after him apologizing every time he speaks a truth.  We need more than a candidate with spine; we need a party with spine!
Bonzo

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By Gary Hickernell, July 26, 2006 at 6:21 am Link to this comment
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Molly, you are indeed one of the great ones! And that is before suggesting Bill Moyers. He would be a good president, if this were not close to the worst of all possible worlds. Can he be elected? No, not really. I don’t think the Democrats, spineless as they are, have lost an election since George Bush the Elder. The last two have been stolen (with the strange silence of the Dems) and the next election will be stolen. Have you heard that “Red” states are passing legislation to make recounts impossible? This really makes sense in a democracy. NOT! Bill Moyers would have the support of neither the Republicans or the Democrats, but only the support of a few million intelligent and caring people. And I’d advise him not to fly in any small aircraft.

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By ralph, July 26, 2006 at 6:12 am Link to this comment
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Great idea;  would raise the discourse.  Can we have Frank Zappa as his running mate?  Yeah I know Frank is dead but, Joe Libermann is still running

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By Wayne Fisher, July 26, 2006 at 3:16 am Link to this comment
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hahaha…yea…run Bill Moanyers…please. It will assure that a lefty has no chance of winning anything. hahaha

You people are idiots.

Wayne Fisher

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By G.Aartsen, July 26, 2006 at 12:28 am Link to this comment
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“I’m damned if I want to go through another presidential primary with everyone trying to figure out who has the best chance to win instead of who’s right. I want to vote for somebody who’s good and brave and who should win.”
Am I the only one who remembers Congressman Dennis Kucinich running a fabulous campaign in the 2004 primaries? Oh right, there’s one other reader on this page who remembers him lashing out against the lies of the Bush regime, from Iraq to the healthcare system reforms and everything inbetween.
God have mercy on our American brothers and sisters and give them a memory, plus the ability to see relations between causes and effects.
G.Aartsen
Amsterdam
the Netherlands

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By Rosalind Katz, July 25, 2006 at 11:12 pm Link to this comment
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One sad thing about this country is that too many eligible voters do not vote. They complain, but they do not vote.
And we are a people of special interests-what can this politician do for me, my district, my state. Not too many really care about the greater good of the USA. And we’re gullible. When the dirt bags make their baseless accusations they are believed by the ignorant and the right wing who have not yet gotten it through their thick skulls that the worst cases of dishonesty have been comitted by Republican presidents:Watergate; Iran-Contra; invasion of Iraq. And that the biggest crooks are Republicans as evidenced by Kenneth Lay and Enron. It’s like the commercial that shows the little guy trying to get the ear of, and help from, big business only to be dumped in the office trash pail.
So what good is it to have a smart and honest guy running for president? Look what happened to Adlai Stevenson not to mention Al Gore.
Add to the above reality that we are living in frighteningly dangerous times surrounded by hatred so intense that, as we are seeing, it will take little for a conflagration.
So pardon my negative views but whichever person runs for the office of president is very likely damned since there are few who are not beholden to some slimy bunch of self-interested, “gimme, gimme” groups who want only money and power and who care very little about the survival of humankind. Hey, bring on those big SUV’s and trucks and that $4.00 per gallon gas and don’t you dare lower the speed limit on our highways because I need to consume as much gas as possible in my 1, 2, 3 mile drive from here to there.
Yes, I’m a voter who would love to see a smart and honest guy as our President. Do I believe that Americans are ready for that? NO!

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By paula, July 25, 2006 at 10:56 pm Link to this comment
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Bill Moyers is a wonderful speaker and would be a great person to run for president.  If he doesn’t want to, then let us turn to Dennis Kucinich, who is honest and progressive and deserves more respect than he gets.  I too noticed that he got the most applause during the debates.  So why didn’t he get more votes?  Canvassing democrats for him made me realize how spineless even ordinary democrats are.  People who thought he was great wouldn’t vote for him because they thought he couldn’t win.  Vote your hopes, not your fears!

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By KEVIN SCHMIDT, STERLING VA, July 25, 2006 at 10:09 pm Link to this comment
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If you want to run Moyers for President because he doesn’t triangulate and has spine, then there’s only one possible choice for his running mate, Howard Dean!

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By Nettie Walden, July 25, 2006 at 8:58 pm Link to this comment
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Sorry to rain on your parade, Molly, but I signed a petition for Bill Moyers for president October 31, 2005.  He was approached and said he would not run.  Our loss I’m afraid for he would have been a good one!!!!

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By Jim Goodson, July 25, 2006 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment
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I do not know if Bill Moyers is a Mason or not, he should be. Masons are supposed to make good men, better. Bill Moyers would be a fine statesman.

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By K.D. McCleave, July 25, 2006 at 7:09 pm Link to this comment
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Brilliant.  I love Molly.  I love Bill Moyers.  I’ve already written my request for him to run and put it in the mail.  This is the best idea I have heard/seen in the last dark, dismal, depressing 6 years.  I and many of my friends are currently riveted by his current Faith and Reason series, turning to it because it is one of the few places bringing us intelligence and hope these days.  And yes, a Moyers/Gore ticket would be very attractive because of Al’s vast experience within the system and,and because he never stopped caring either, even after they stole the election from him.  But those others who first said it are also right, Molly.  You too, should go for it, girl.  You are so right so often and so patently.  And not to mention, oh migod, you have an incredible sense of proportion, of folly, and of humor.  Sign me up.  I will volunteer immediately for this campaign.  And that too is meant seriously.

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By Spinoza750, July 25, 2006 at 6:37 pm Link to this comment
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What conditions would be necessary for a Progressive to run for president and win?  What conditions would be necessary for him to succeed? How would success be measured?

Think about that when reading this article concerning the Chavez government. It is a good analytical article.  In what way does it indicate that it would be impossible for a progressive to win an election in the USA and why couldn’t S/He succeed?


http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=45&ItemID=10620

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By Mad As Hell, July 25, 2006 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment
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Molly,
While I love you, try to read you every chance I get and generally agree with you 100%, I gotta take the opposite view:

I think Bill Moyers would be a TERRIBLE candidate.  Sure, he’s smart, articulate, honest, incitful, all those good things.  But can he stand up to the dirty, bare-knuckle, sucker-punching-groin-kicking Karl Rove has used to get and keep Mad King George in power? No effin’ way.  It would be just another “moral victory” (a la McGovern) while the GOP continues to run and ruin this country.

What we need is James Carville to pull off the gloves, get down-and-dirty as Rove gets, use EVERY dirty trick to win our country back from the fascists (like Hondo and Nazi-Anne Coulter)before the banana Republicans can end the Great Experiment.  How can they be the party of Lincoln????

And we need nasty, tough bare-knuckle fighter.  I’m no big fan of Hillary Clinton—in fact I’m not much of a fan of hers at all.  But she has one BIG advantage over every other Democrat—there is NOTHING they can say about her that hasn’t been said before.  There’s no skeletons in HER closet—she doesn’t even have the closet anymore—they smashed it to tooth-picks.

So, Molly, much as I wish we lived in a world where a Bill Moyers could realisticaly run for President, I know we don’t live in that world. I’m not willing to cede ANOTHER 4 or 8 years.  Look how much damage they’ve done.  In 4 or 8 years, the America we know and love won’t exist. Unless we make damn sure they don’t “win” again.

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By Merrie Martino, July 25, 2006 at 6:28 pm Link to this comment
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Bill Moyers is one of my heroes.  I thought a couple of years ago how wonderful a country it would be if a wise man like Moyers could be president.  If he doesn’t want to do it, then I’d like to know who he thinks would be a formidable candidate against the Republicans?  Hearing that Mr. Moyers’ health would prevent such an endeavor, about the only other one I can support is Al Gore.  At least we know he really cares about something, how about the whole planet!  It kind of boggles the mind.

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By Spinoza750, July 25, 2006 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment
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>>>> The reader who commented about a new revolution through, “...we need to get bombs and guns and overthrow the fascists first.” needs to have his/her head examined. Only with the backing of our military would such a means to revolution be possible, and with the backing of our military that would make it a fate already accomplished. Violent revolution in the United States, with the current capability & size of our military & law enforcement is an option that retired before automatic weapons. >>>

I am that sap.


I see a very big dilemma.  I assume the people like Bill Moyer because he has taken ethical positions on foreign policy including a major expose of American Imperialism and some of the very nasty things we have done to other people, mostly, poor peasants and workers.  Further he has taken stands on domestic economics that shows he cares about the losers in the capitalist system, further he has even hinted that the ethics of capitalism is immoral, That is he is opposed to the culture in which the only virtue is profit.

Now think about the politics in the USA, Think hard.  What have we done for the last 60 years?  Think about the essays of Benito Mussolini from the late 20’s and 30’s.  What was his views on capitalism/corporatism, militarism and nationalism?  Now carefully explore the ideology and practice of the Republican Party, especially since Reagan, further explore the Democratic Party mainstream ideology in practice, not what they say.

After duly thinking about it please tell me if it will matter if Mr. Moyers runs or not?  Really thinking deeply!  Is there a snowballs chance in hell that he will be nominated by the Democrats?  Is there any chance that he would win the election?  What would the chances of him being assassinated be?  Don’t forget this is the USA.

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By Steve Juniper, July 25, 2006 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment
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If Molly would suggest, in her column, that any reader who would like to see Moyers as president send $25, more or less, to him for encouragement I bet he would be surprised at the response.
  I’d like to see someone like Oprah as a running mate, but suppose that would seem to whimsical although, she would surely shine compared to the dread dead Hillary.

  Does anyone read these other than the people who write them?

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By joe, July 25, 2006 at 4:17 pm Link to this comment
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Bill Moyers isn’t corrupt - ergo, he wouldn’t make a good president if one accepts the low limbo mark of this presidency!! However, he is too good as an insightful and thoughtful reporter of reality to walk away from his role as a public conscience. We enljy David Broncaccio, but he still doesn’t have the depth of a Moyers.

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By Ken Smet, July 25, 2006 at 4:09 pm Link to this comment
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I think Bill Moyers and Stephen Colbert could pull it off.  Let’s go for it!

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By Linda Sutton, July 25, 2006 at 4:02 pm Link to this comment
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Molly, we’d like you to call him and let him know he’s officially drafted. Grassroots Democrats are universally displeased with the current selection of potential candidates…. I mean, seriously, so many of them are as responsible as Bush for the fall of our democracy. The lack of leadership shown already shows they won’t cut it in a campaign either. So, ask Bill. I expect Californians would support him. Let’s get the campaign underway!

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By Linda Ingald, July 25, 2006 at 3:14 pm Link to this comment
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I never thought of Bill Moyers for President.  Moyers is a man of “truth & reason.”  When I think of a President at this time in history, I think of corruption, dishonesty, manipulation, and total disregard for the “people” of this country.  Electing a President today is not a choice available to the people of this country.  People with “money” and “power” are put into office.  When was the last time we saw some ordinary person with ideals and morals run for office.  Perhaps, Jimmy Carter or Dwight Eisenhower were the last true leaders.  Sometimes I feel that we live in a country run by a “mafia” machine. 

So, when considering Moyers as a possiblity is one that is really a fantasy.  Any good person who brings about “truth and honesty” was either killed or became to overwhelmed by the pressures placed on them i.e., Ghandi, King, Jesus, Sheehan, Kucinich, etc. Think about it! 

I don’t like to think there is no hope but, we are in the darkest of times and if Moyers is doing his journalism and is not stopped then, there is a “flicker of light” that still shines for all of us.  Let Moyers continue doing a great job and forget the “running” for President idea!

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By paula hurdle, July 25, 2006 at 3:06 pm Link to this comment
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I think a person of integrity and courage who could tell the truth about the issues and truly support ideals in the constitution can not be found in American politics. The democrats and republicans do not represent the American people, they have been brought by special interests and that is there god. I’m truly discouraged about the lack of any type of leadership in either party. Maybe a revolution of the working poor(ie middle america).

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By Flo, July 25, 2006 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment
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I’m not sure he’d want the job especially after the fundies and neocons get done screwing up everything.  Bill Moyers might be exactly what this country and the world at large needs though, which is why he’d never win.  I’d truly like to see him give it a try though.

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By Kurt, July 25, 2006 at 2:30 pm Link to this comment
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re: MOYERS AND ELECTABILITY or THE PHILOSOPHER PRESIDENT

I would be fascinated to see how the American public would respond to Moyers. The questions are: are they are hungry for ideas without religion attached or have we sunk too far into a phase where religion trumps culture?

Don’t know.

I think though, that the popularity of PBS might hold a clue to our mystery.  PBS never does well against popular culture and probably never will.  And Moyers is PBS at its best.

Additionally, if you watch him on a regular basis, Moyers mostly muses in the form of quesions, not style condusive to current the format of politcal debates.

Still, his health aside, it would be fascinating to watch

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By skyreader7, July 25, 2006 at 1:55 pm Link to this comment
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To: SamSnedegar


OIL!

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By wwv, July 25, 2006 at 1:11 pm Link to this comment
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Molly is dead-on here…. A Feingold/Moyers ticket or (better yet) a Moyers/Feingold ticket (a Moyers/Obama ticket?) or a Moyers/Michael Douglas ticket would be a salvation for America and for the Democrats. If we can begin reforming congress in the coming election, America could become the “Beacon of Freedom” it has always professed to be, but never was.

The last three two-term Presidents have shown that the Chief Executive does not need to be a “jack of all trades” (for that matter, Reagan and Bush Jr. have demonstrated that he does’nt even have to have working brain cells). And I would trust Moyers’ judgement for cabinet posts would be insightful. This could begin the rehabilitation of the Democratic Party in a meaningful way, in that they would again stand for SOMETHING.

I believe we can’t afford to let this idea pass. We all need to work to MAKE THIS HAPPEN. This would save our democracy, which is fading fast…

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By Stephen Smoliar, July 25, 2006 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment
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It is not that I disagree with what Molly has to say about Moyers, it is more that I am cynical enough to believe that most of our electorate is not particularly interested in discussions with moral clarity.  If they were then all of those so-called “news and information” programs that are little more than shouting matches would never have made their ratings numbers and would have been taken off the air long ago.  The sad truth is that the moral clarity of reasoned discourse does not sell soap (or automobiles, not to mention the gasoline they consume).  Furthermore, one of James Reston’s editorials during the Vietname War cited a quote by Herbert Agar that has stuck with me ever since:  “The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear.”  (I cited this in the July 12 entry of my own blog and provided a pointer to it as my URL.)  Yes, Moyers has a knack for telling the truth that could make us free.  Jesus had that knack, too;  and look what happened to him!

Right now I would be happy to have a candidate who might be serious about preserving, protecting, and defending the Constitution of the United States.  From this point of view, I do not think either the Democrats or the Republicans take the Oath of Office particularly seriously (which, I suppose, puts me in the same camp as rabblerowzer).  If we really want to shake up the system, we need to get beyond party interests.  I, for one, would vote for a Leahy/Specter ticket (in either order).  These two have lots of differences, but I do not doubt the seriousness that either of them applies to our Constitution.  An Independent ticket with the two of them running together might be just the wake-up call that our political system needs.

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By Karma Pippin, July 25, 2006 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
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Bill Moyers would in every way be the best candidate. He would even talk about real issues involving the fate of most of the people in America. And that would bring out very many more voters. Perhaps he could also be productively up front about the need for verified voting machines with paper trails, or for our not turning over our electoral process to corporate middlemen. I do see that there is much against any properly conducted election and against the ability to function humanely and effectively once elected given the courts now in place.

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By Meemaw, July 25, 2006 at 12:16 pm Link to this comment
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Good Golly Miss Molly! How is it that you continue to bring to us such wonderful ideas?
Bill Moyers would bring civility, class, integrity, wit, intelligence, ethics and morality to an otherwise immoral and uncivilized process. 
Keep on keepin’ on Ms. Ivins.

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By ChristianLib, July 25, 2006 at 11:26 am Link to this comment
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A great thought!

Dems will not win until they run INTENDING to win, not run hoping not to lose.

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By G.L.Horton, July 25, 2006 at 11:21 am Link to this comment
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Yes:  Bill Moyers for President, Molly Ivins for Vice!

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By sally lambert, July 25, 2006 at 11:07 am Link to this comment
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Now THAT’S what we have brains for.  Hell yes, run Bill and the election turns into something real.  Repeatedly Moyers has stepped up to the plate and shown us what a real human being can think and do and say.  Best idea since the wheel…

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By Sir Francis, July 25, 2006 at 11:05 am Link to this comment
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Dear, dear Molly,
If this were Japan Bill Moyers would be declared a national treasure and, if I had my way, so would you (stand down Fan Rave alert[s]).

Since you gave the whole world the man’s address, I’m considering writing Mr. Moyers and suggesting he leverage such bully pulpit as he has to persuade, better yet beg, Al Gore to give it another go. I can think of no other potential candidate who is, based on the way we’re headed and what we’re doing and not doing, looking steadily at a probable near-future where, to paraphrase Richard Heinberg, never mind your advanced degrees and your stock portfolio; *Do you know how to make shoes?*

And come to think of it, Moyers would make a *great* veep. Live long and prosper. Both of you.

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By Roger Drowne EC, July 25, 2006 at 10:54 am Link to this comment
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Bill Has My Vote !

http://www.RogerART.com

Great Idea…

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By William, July 25, 2006 at 10:47 am Link to this comment
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I really love Bill, he is from the same town my mom and sisters frew up in…tiny Marshall TX. It is indeed disheartening to hear the same tripe directed towards Bill from the woodwork Pretendacrats that say “OH, I’d Love to see Bill run! Great Idea!...BUT he just isnt electable, just isnt strong enough, just looks old”.....gee where have I heard that before? Maybe back in 2003 when man small in stature and big in heart and integrity named Dennis Kucinich ran for the same spot…got way more applause than any other candidate in nearly every debate leading up to the primaries…and most importantly spoke the truth about power and wasnt afraid to lose. Its time to cut the crap pretendacrats!!! Grow some gonads and stand up to the evil that is seething right in front of your eyes…that is the only way to win..because then we all win.

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By Debbie, July 25, 2006 at 10:38 am Link to this comment
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It’s too late, people. Only now are we beginning to realize that it’s been YEARS since we’ve had ANY say in the way this government is run. Only a revolution can restore democracy to this country. It’s so sad that my children (which I had late in life) will never know the sense of pride and hope that we once felt. Hope is all but lost (but if there’s a revolution, count me in).

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By Paul Magill Smith, July 25, 2006 at 9:00 am Link to this comment
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I posted a comment early this morning, but I guess the moderator thought it too long (despite the validity of my comments). I must admit I hardly expected censorship from Truthdig.com. Here it is again:

I’ve written about Moyers for president for quite some time now and agree with you completely Molly. We need people who understand ethics & morals instead of just giving those traits lip service strictly for political gain. Most of our political leaders (on both sides of the aisle) have failed us and a paradigm shift is in order.

Add Lou Dobbs and Bill Maher into the mix, along with Jon Stewart & Helen Thomas, and we might even be able to straighten out this truly un-Godly mess the Republicans (mainly) have forced upon us. Half of the American people, and a goodly portion of the media, share blame because supporting bad people & policies makes them accomplices. Regardless whether BushCo people read the writing on the wall, as evidenced through the polls they so ardently reject, it appears Americans are finally waking up to the facts of being ‘had’.

Too bad more of them are too spineless to make it a reality to speak of indictment rather than just impeachment.

The reader who commented about a new revolution through, “...we need to get bombs and guns and overthrow the fascists first.” needs to have his/her head examined. Only with the backing of our military would such a means to revolution be possible, and with the backing of our military that would make it a fate already accomplished. Violent revolution in the United States, with the current capability & size of our military & law enforcement is an option that retired before automatic weapons.

Our best weapon is true information. We are now in a position similar to the Soviet era when, no matter how hard the masters tried to suppress true information, about how people in western democracies were leading comfortable lives & Soviet citizens were suffering from want of amenities, the truth filtered through.

Our public safety nets, civil liberties, and constitutional gaurantees have been trampled by this administration and congressional cohorts, but it looks like the American people are finally beginning to wake up. It’s about time, too. Global warming threats, a depleted national treasury thanks to the wasteful greedy military industrial complex, income inequalities, budget & trade deficits, a compromised election system, having national security taken hostage by the fossil fuel industries, and the illegal employer crisis (note I didn’t write ‘immigrant’, because they are just an effect rather than the cause of our immigration problem) are issues too important to ignore any longer. On some of these issues we probably have waited too long already, but I still am of the opinion if something can be built, then becomes broken, somehow it can always be repaired.

Stalin’s USSR changed for the better, Hitler’s Germany, Mao’s China, and Japan’s militaristic society also, so is it unlikely Bush’s America will not do the same once these creeps are driven in shame from office? Corruption is a cycle in any organization. BushCo has taken great pains to consolidate power and extend this low-point in the cycle (all the ‘hard work’ Bush speaks about so often), but when the majority of the middle class gets squeezed too hard it will finally stand on its feet shouting, “Enough is enough, and we refuse to accept this crap any longer!!!” As the Chambers Brothers so aptly stated in a song lyric several decades ago, “Time has come today”, right Americans?

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By Judie Reever, July 25, 2006 at 8:37 am Link to this comment
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Molly,
It is the best idea I have heard to date. I am so afraid we democrats are going to blow this opportunity and wouldn’t it be refreshing to have a candidate who spoke from the heart with no fear of blowing the election?

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By Dennis L.Hanson, July 25, 2006 at 8:20 am Link to this comment
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What a splendid suggestion; run someone to “set the tone” of the campaign conversation. And if Moyers should win, even more splendid. dlh

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By Maezeppa, July 25, 2006 at 7:56 am Link to this comment
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Moyers’ health would not allow it, but he is a wonderful man.

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By Kevin McDermott, July 25, 2006 at 7:35 am Link to this comment
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Hell, I’d settle for a Gore/Moyers ticket!

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By rabblerowzer, July 25, 2006 at 7:26 am Link to this comment
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I would love to see Bill Moyers run for president, but of course he would have no more chance of winning than George McGovern had.

Fascism is WAY too entrenched in this country for anyone as decent as Moyers, Dean or McGovern to be elected president. The fascist plutocratracy ruling this country would never permit it.

“It is quite clear that the plutocratic oligarchy ruling this country can only be gotten rid of by violence.”

I agree with Spinoza750.

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By Ed Nickel, July 25, 2006 at 7:09 am Link to this comment
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While I agree with this logic entirely, I have long thought Ms Ivins would be wonderful and sensible President. So, how about a ticket of Moyers & Ivins?

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By Harold Steele, July 25, 2006 at 5:47 am Link to this comment
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The Bush Presidency reminds me of a bumpersticker I once saw many years ago, affixed to the rear tailgate of a new truck.

The sticker read:

“When I was a kid, they said that ANYBODY could grow up to be President of these United States. Damned if I don’t believe it now!”

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By KISS, July 25, 2006 at 5:40 am Link to this comment
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While I admire Bill Moyers greatly he would be a terrible president. Todays presidency calls for a cunning and clever politician. Corporate amerika controls who will be president. So only a clever shrewed man/ women can get into the highest office. Until the American people can change the financing laws of campaigning we can have no Bill Moyer types in the White House, indeed a sad commentary. A moderate is our only hope.

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By skyreader7, July 25, 2006 at 4:53 am Link to this comment
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Run a man who has integrity? What if he won? How would members of congress relate to him?

Then we’d have to find candidates with integrity to run for congress. Who would all the big corporations then give their money to?

Lobbyists would be out of a job. Unemployment would go up. Journalists won’t have anything to write about. Their jobs would be so boring.

There you go again, Molly, trying to throw a monkey wrench into everthing.

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By SamSnedegar, July 25, 2006 at 3:54 am Link to this comment
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Courage? Moyers has no courage; neither has Ivins or any of the rest of the punditry these days. None of them, and that includes Kennedy, Conyers, Kucinich, all of them feeble and foolish finks, will even MENTION oil.

Unless and until you are willing to admit that we are in Iraq for oil and we are coveters, liars, murderers, and thieves, you are no better than the sycophants who applaud the bullies. Moyers won’t mention oil, Ivins won’t mention oil, Conason won’t mention oil, Scheer used to but got scared off and now HE won’t mention oil, so we are left with a handful of honest and courageous people like Greg Palast, Robert Dreyfuss, Noam Chomsky, Gore Vidal, and Randi Rhodes who tell the truth, and the rest a bunch of pimps for the media whores who hide our shame from view.

Selling books is more important than telling the truth.

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By Paul Magill Smith, July 25, 2006 at 3:16 am Link to this comment
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I’ve written about Moyers for president for quite some time now and agree with you completely Molly. We need people who understand ethics & morals instead of just giving those traits lip service strictly for political gain. Most of our political leaders (on both sides of the aisle) have failed us and a paradigm shift is in order.

Add Lou Dobbs and Bill Maher into the mix, along with Jon Stewart & Helen Thomas, and we might even be able to straighten out this truly un-Godly mess the Republicans (mainly) have forced upon us. Half of the American people, and a goodly portion of the media, share blame because supporting bad people & policies makes them accomplices. Regardless whether BushCo people read the writing on the wall, as evidenced through the polls they so ardently reject, it appears Americans are finally waking up to the facts of being ‘had’.

Too bad more of them are too spineless to make it a reality to speak of indictment rather than just impeachment.

The reader who commented about a new revolution through, “...we need to get bombs and guns and overthrow the fascists first.” needs to have his/her head examined. Only with the backing of our military would such a means to revolution be possible, and with the backing of our military that would make it a fate already accomplished. Violent revolution in the United States, with the current capability & size of our military & law enforcement is an option that retired before automatic weapons.

Our best weapon is true information. We are now in a position similar to the Soviet era when, no matter how hard the masters tried to suppress true information, about how people in western democracies were leading comfortable lives & Soviet citizens were suffering from want of amenities, the truth filtered through.

Our public safety nets, civil liberties, and constitutional gaurantees have been trampled by this administration and congressional cohorts, but it looks like the American people are finally beginning to wake up. It’s about time, too. Global warming threats, a depleted national treasury thanks to the wasteful greedy military industrial complex, income inequalities, budget & trade deficits, a compromised election system, having national security taken hostage by the fossil fuel industries, and the illegal employer crisis (note I didn’t write ‘immigrant’, because they are just an effect rather than the cause of our immigration problem) are issues too important to ignore any longer. On some of these issues we probably have waited too long already, but I still am of the opinion if something can be built, then becomes broken, somehow it can always be repaired.

Stalin’s USSR changed for the better, Hitler’s Germany, Mao’s China, and Japan’s militaristic society also, so is it unlikely Bush’s America will not do the same once these creeps are driven in shame from office? Corruption is a cycle in any organization. BushCo has taken great pains to consolidate power and extend this low-point in the cycle (all the ‘hard work’ Bush speaks about so often), but when the majority of the middle class gets squeezed too hard it will finally stand on its feet shouting, “Enough is enough, and we refuse to accept this crap any longer!!!” As the Chambers Brothers so aptly stated in a song lyric several decades ago, “Time has come today”, right Americans?

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By Mary, July 25, 2006 at 12:00 am Link to this comment
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Wonderful idea! The American people
are starving for just such a candidate.
Even if he didn’t get the nomination, he
WOULD move the political discussion as you
said, which is what we need to at least
begin to bring the truly important issues
to the table, without the B.S.  He would
raise the bar, indeed.  Thanks Molly.

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By rob payne, July 24, 2006 at 11:08 pm Link to this comment
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I have been trying to picture a world where someone like Bill Moyers could be elected president and it is not easy to do but why not indeed. Unfortunately people like Moyers are not the type who seeks power that is more for cheesy little chimps like our prehensile president.

Fair minded people who have inquiring minds have no need for power and greed or legacies, pyramids, monuments or any of that claptrap. All of which is really too bad for the rest of us who must live under the yoke of primping, and prancing alpha monkeys.

Who has the best chance of winning is discussed by the pragmatic hard nose realists who unlike people that dream of a better world are the only ones with a true grasp of reality with their well balanced noses angled into the air. How they detest the vociferous who clamor about ideals, justice, or even that almost forgotten word kindness.

To America the home of the capitalist the driving force behind motives is always the search for the bottom line. What do I get out of it, what is in it for me. Where is the profit and how much will it be? Everything should be run like a business because that is the bottom line.

Of course it is a bit unfair to single America out for leaders are leaders just about anywhere you go. History is full of leaders very much like Bush only most of them had more brains. Why people wax romantic over leaders past and present is beyond understanding because they are usually the bottom of the barrel. Of course we romanticize just about everything in the past. Take Christopher Columbus for example that intrepid explorer whose main goal was finding gold and did not mind hanging some Indians in his quest. Columbus was hardly a great human being he was just a murderer very much like most leaders.

Look at our leaders all dressed up in their respectability with just the right attire. Younger ones die their hair grey to look more leaderly, older ones put shoe polish on their hair to look more vigorous and they all walk the walk and talk the talk. They smile sweetly for the camera through their pancake makeup hiding their callousness and the death they deal in their bids for power.

Bill Moyers would be a very refreshing change.

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By Spinoza750, July 24, 2006 at 10:45 pm Link to this comment
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Molly why do you think Bill can not win? Do you think fascism is to entrenched in this country?

I suspect that is the case and it is unfortunate.  Instead of running Bill who I admit is a good and honorable man, we need to get bombs and guns and overthrow the fascists first.  That is, sad to say, the only REALISTIC way to restore democracy to this land. It is quite clear that the plutocratic oligarchy ruling this country can only be gotten rid of by violence. Again unfortunately they do not understand ethics and will maintain their rule by violence. We need another American Revolution so that in the future we can vote for people like Moyers.

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