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Tom Hayden: Things Come Around in the Mideast

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By Tom Hayden

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Editor’s note: Tom Hayden, an activist, author and longtime Truthdig contributor, died Sunday at age 76. In his memory, Truthdig is sharing one of Hayden’s pieces each day this week. This article was originally posted July 18, 2006.

In this essay, veteran social activist Tom Hayden, drawing upon his own rude political awakening to the realities of Israeli and Middle East politics during the 1980s, warns that the Israel lobby in the U.S. aims to roll back the clock and change the map of the region and that its neoconservative supporters will probably try to use the current Middle East crisis to ignite a larger war against Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran.

Twenty-five years ago I stared into the eyes of Michael Berman, chief operative for his congressman-brother, Howard Berman. I was a neophyte running for the California Assembly in a district that the Bermans claimed belonged to them.

“I represent the Israeli defense forces,” Michael said. I thought he was joking. He wasn’t. Michael seemed to imagine himself the gatekeeper protecting Los Angeles’ Westside for Israel’s political interests, and those of the famous Berman-Waxman machine. Since Jews represented one-third of the Democratic district’s primary voters, Berman held a balance of power.


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All that year I tried to navigate the district’s Jewish politics. The solid historical liberalism of the Westside was a favorable factor, as was the strong support of many Jewish community leaders. But the community was moving in a more conservative direction. Some were infuriated at my sponsorship of Santa Monica’s tough rent control ordinance. Many in the organized community were suspicious of the New Left for becoming Palestinian sympathizers after the Six Day War; they would become today’s neoconservatives.

I had traveled to Israel in a generally supportive capacity, meeting officials from all parties, studying energy projects, befriending peace advocates like the writer Amos Oz. I also met with Palestinians and commented favorably on the works of Edward Said. As a result, a Berman ally prepared an anti-Hayden dossier in an attempt to discredit my candidacy with the Democratic leadership in the California state capital.

This led to the deli lunch with Michael Berman. He and his brother were privately leaning toward an upcoming young prosecutor named Adam Schiff, who later became the congressman from Pasadena. But they calculated that Schiff couldn’t win without name recognition, so they were considering “renting” me the Assembly seat, Berman said. But there was one condition: that I always be a “good friend of Israel.”

This wasn’t a particular problem at the time. Since the 1970s I had favored some sort of two-state solution. I felt close to the local Jewish activists who descended from the labor movement and participated in the civil rights and anti-Vietnam movements. I wanted to take up the cause of the aging Holocaust survivors against the global insurance companies that had plundered their assets.

While I believed the Palestinians had a right to self-determination, I didn’t share the animus of some on the American left who questioned Israel’s very legitimacy. I was more inclined toward the politics of Israel’s Peace Now and those Palestinian nationalists and human rights activists who accepted Israel?s pre-1967 borders as a reality to accommodate. I disliked the apocalyptic visions of the Israeli settlers I had met, and thought that even hard-line Palestinians would grudgingly accept a genuine peace initiative.

I can offer my real-life experience to the present discussion about the existence and power of an “Israel lobby.” It is not as monolithic as some argue, but it is far more than just another interest group in a pluralist political world. In recognizing its diversity, distinctions must be drawn between voters and elites, between Reform and Orthodox tendencies, between the less observant and the more observant. During my ultimate 18 years in office, I received most of my Jewish support from the ranks of the liberal and less observant voters. But I also received support from conservative Jews who saw themselves as excluded by a Jewish (and Democratic) establishment.

However, all these rank-and-file constituencies were attuned to the question of Israel, even in local and state elections, and would never vote for a candidate perceived as anti-Israel or pro-Palestinian. I had to be certified “kosher,” not once but over and over again.

The certifiers were the elites, beginning with rabbis and heads of the multiple mainstream Jewish organizations, especially each city’s Jewish Federation. An important vetting role was held as well by the American-Israel Political Action Committee (AIPAC), a group closely associated with official parties in Israel. When necessary, Israeli ambassadors, counsels general and other officials would intervene with statements declaring someone a “friend of Israel.”

In my case, a key to the “friendship issue” was the Los Angeles-based counsel general Benjamin Navon. Though politics drew us together, our personal friendship was genuine enough. I think that Benny, as he was called, wanted to pull me and my then-wife, Jane Fonda, into a pro-Israel stance, but he himself was an old-school labor/social democrat who personally believed in a negotiated political settlement. We enjoyed personal and intellectual time together, and I still keep on my bookshelf a wooden sculpture by his wife, of an anguished victim of violence.

The de facto Israeli endorsement would be communicated indirectly, in compliance with laws that prohibit foreign interference in an American election. We would be seen and photographed together in public. Benny would make positive public statements that could be quoted in campaign mailings. As a result, I was being declared “kosher” by the ultimate source, the region’s representative of the state of Israel.

Nevertheless, throughout the spring 1982 campaign I was accused of being a left-wing madman allied to terrorism and communism. The national Democratic leader Walter Mondale commented jokingly during a local visit that I was being described as worse than Lenin. It was a wild ride.

I won the hard-fought primary by 51% to 45%. The Bermans stayed neutral. Willie Brown, Richard Alatorre and the rest of the California Democratic establishment were quietly supportive. I easily won the general election in November.

But that summer I made the mistake of my political career. The Israel Defense Forces invaded Lebanon, and Benny Navon wanted Jane and me to be supportive. It happened that I had visited the contested border in the past, witnessed the shelling of civilian Israeli homes, and interviewed Israeli and Lebanese zealots—crazies, I thought, who were preaching preventive war. I opposed cross-border rocket attacks and naively favored a demilitarized zone.

Ever curious, and aware of my district’s politics, I decided we should go to the Middle East—but only as long as the Israeli “incursion,” as it was delicately called, was limited to the 10-kilometer space near the Lebanese border, as a cushion against rocket fire. Benny Navon assured me that the “incursion” was limited, and would be followed by negotiations and a solution. I also made clear our opposition to the use of any fragmentation bombs in the area, and my ultimate political identification with what Israeli Peace Now would say.

There followed a descent into moral ambiguity and realpolitick that still haunts me today. When we arrived at the Israeli-Lebanon border, the game plan promised by Benny Navon had changed utterly. Instead of a localized border conflict, Israel was invading and occupying all of Lebanon—with us in tow. Its purpose was to destroy militarily the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) haven in Lebanon. This had been Gen. Ariel Sharon’s secret plan all along, and I never will know with certainty whether Benny Navon had been deceived along with everyone else.

For the next few weeks, I found myself defending Israel’s “right” to self-defense on its border, only to realize privately how foolish I was becoming. In the meantime, Israel’s invasion was continuing, with ardent Jewish support in America.

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By Anne Coulter, February 22, 2008 at 1:58 pm Link to this comment
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What does Jane Fonda think of Tom now??

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By EDWIN AUSA, November 7, 2006 at 4:39 am Link to this comment
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ampanget nyo di kayo marunong mag gawa ng essay na para sa mnga bata mahikayat magbasa….geh submit isa pa ang LAKI NG SUBMIT NYO…...

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By Mariana Petoom, August 3, 2006 at 10:55 am Link to this comment
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What does Hayden want—for Israel to just suffer the bombs and not react? He does not mention what consequences and future actions that would bring.  If Mexico had a hostile government that was lobbing rockets into Texas or California, would Hayden recommend no response?

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By Amy, August 2, 2006 at 11:04 am Link to this comment
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I noticed that you use the words like fear and afraid a lot in your post.  While it’s natural to lash out when one is afraid, it usually is a mistake. Even if Israel “wins” the war militarily it will pay dearly for it in the years to come.

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By M Henri Day, July 30, 2006 at 2:18 am Link to this comment
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Kudos to Harry H Snyder III for reminding readers of the fact that the term «America» properly refers to the two continents and «Americans» to <u>all</u> their inhabitants ! Perhaps we should be wise to refer to the United States of America as «the US» or «USA», rather than allow that part of America to linguistically misappropriate a term which refers to the whole (much as it has misappropriated the resources of and political and economic control over the two continents). The next step would be to begin to deal with such misleading (Euro-centric) terminology as «Middle East» for Southwest Asia. Remember, the Earth is not flat, and China, for example, borders on the Western Pacific, the United States on the Eastern….

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By Harry H Snyder III, July 29, 2006 at 6:26 am Link to this comment
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Anyone who begins a post with “you americans"obviously knows very little about the subject(“Americans” live from the tip of South America to the top of Hudson’s Bay, in 27 seperate nations)

Even if a person was excused and readers accepted “Americans” as citizens of the 50 State confederation. they would still see a plethora of wildly diverse selection of thoughts and opinions.

I invite you to travel in my country…see Alaska Massachusetts, Mississippi, and California, then come back here and tell me all “Americans(sic)” are of one mind…..about anything!

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By susan, July 28, 2006 at 11:32 pm Link to this comment
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christ! you americans evaluate everything on how it affects you.

to the ass who commented on WMD’s and Israel contribution to SA.  Don’t you know that somewhere in the annals beneath the CIA, some jack off has commented to his superior what he should do with all the requisition forms confirming that the US sent the WMD’s to Iran? 

Of course there are WMD’s all over the freakin’ Middle East; courtesy of the good ol us of a.

the guy’s superior has said to him WTF? get rid of that shit! we don’t need a trail leading back to us.

America is a country built on the values of acquisition, greed and money. At the very least Israel is guilty of wanting the land that they owned for their people.

Ya bunch of maroons!

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By M Henri Day, July 26, 2006 at 11:45 pm Link to this comment
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Indeed,what about the NYC mayorial race ? How does AIPAC work in one of the most important cities in the United States ? I doubt that the protagonists are going to speak openly about their relations with the Israel lobby, but in the event that Mr Synder has access to the details, I’m sure other readers will be as interested as I am….

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By Harry H. Snyder III, July 26, 2006 at 1:15 pm Link to this comment
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levels below national? 

What about the NYC Mayor’s race?,2933,53785,00.html

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By M Henri Day, July 26, 2006 at 11:30 am Link to this comment
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It sounds as if Mr Nasr’s book has many interesting and important things to say about US politics, but it - or rather the passage cited by Mr Snyder - does not quite address the question I posed, which dealt less with big names in national politics, where the influence of Israeli lobby organisations like AIPAC is obvious to any who cares to observe the US Congress, than with the experience of people like Tom Hayden, who was running for <u>California assemblyman</u>. To make the query explicit - do these organisations have the same strangle-hold over state and county-level political organisations that they seem to do over national-level ones ? Are there any readers of Truthdig who have run for assemplyman at the state level, or mayor or councilman or dog catcher at the local level, who have encountered pressures similar to those reported by Mr Hayden and are willing and able to share their experiences with us ? While it is obvious why the Israeli government and Israeli politicians of all stripes are interested in influencing who sits in the Congress which determines how much of the wealth of US taxpayers is to be transferred to certain sectors of the Israeli economy, in particular the military, the connexion with California state assemblymen is less immediately obvious. But state assemblymen sometimes go on to become congressmen and senators, and as the twig is bent so the branch tends to grow. My question, again : do we have access here to spades which can dig up the facts concerning the influence of these lobby organisations at levels below the national ?...

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By Brian Grayson, July 25, 2006 at 2:10 pm Link to this comment
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Wow!  Some “mea culpa!”  It sounds just like the usual anti-Israel nonsense I can read anywhere, only this time dressed up real nice.

Mr. Hayden, like his former wife and many others from the 1960’s are simply irrelevant in the public discourse these days.  It seems, however, that they have yet to realize it, and fail to understand that no one except the already-converted hardcores care what they have to say.

I hope Israel pounds Hezbollah.  Given the choice between an imperfect democratic society and one filled with murderous thugs who subjugate woman and stone homosexuals to death, I think the choice is obvious.

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By Susan, July 25, 2006 at 1:11 pm Link to this comment
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Our country and its politics have been taken over. Not to mention our media. I don’t want anymore American lives sacrificed for this. These cowardly parasites should fight their own battles. But that will never happen.

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By Harry H. Snyder III, July 25, 2006 at 9:20 am Link to this comment
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Arab and Israeli Terrorism: The Causes and Effects of Political Violence, 1936-1993 - Page 49
by Kameel B. Nasr - 1996 - 261 pages
Robert Kennedy, like the other candidates, upheld the tradition. ... that if he
was elected president he would sent 50 advanced F-4E jet fighters to Israel.

Guess that answers the question below

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By M Henri Day, July 25, 2006 at 5:44 am Link to this comment
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Hitherto we have been privileged to read a plethora of comments to Tom Hayden’s story, all reflecting with greater or lesser fidelity the political viewpoint of the respective poster. But if this is to be a <u>dig</u>, i e, an investigation that seeks to discover hitherto buried facts rather than simply a forum to let off steam, then Mr Hayden cannot be left to wield the spade alone ! Is there no Truthdig reader with his or her own experience of the nitty-gritty of US electoral politics who is willing, on the basis of that experience, to tell us whether the need for an «Israeli endorsement» as reported by Mr Hayden is something peculiar to Mr Hayden’s electoral district, or something that obtains more widely in the United States ? Here it should be the facts which are at issue, rather than our varied interpretations of how justified - or not - they happen to be….

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By Mark, July 25, 2006 at 4:24 am Link to this comment
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Re: Comment #15078 by William:

On the whole, quite right.

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By MonsieurGonzo, July 24, 2006 at 7:04 pm Link to this comment
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22-JUL-2006 : After meeting with senior officials of The Administration in Washington, D.C., the Saudi Prince laid out in full, the Final Agenda.

“Give ISRAEL enough rope to hang herself,” he told them, “it’s the only way out.”

Everyone agreed, everyone could see, yes ~ this was the only way out. It was everyone’s long-sought Exit Strategy, and it was politically delicious: Der Dolchstoss!

The American working- and middle-classes, having born the brunt of the blood and treasure cost of The Administration’s fiasco in the MidEast, were beginning to catch on. They felt fooled; they felt betrayed.

The usual divisive issues no longer had any bite. The polls weren’t responding like they used to: Gay-Baiting / Sexual politics and Race-Baiting / Immigration politics of fear, ever so useful in the past, were no longer effective. Americans were angry ~ and somebody had to pay.

But now at last they had found their Final Agenda. The Saudis could sit back and let ISRAEL pound their nemesis, the Shi’ites. The Anglo-Americans, meanwhile, could set up The Jews to take the fall for their MidEast folly.

By then, It was already too late to salvage the Mid-Term, 2006 election ~ they would lose The House, they knew, but The Party was still intact. More important, their grip on the American Main-Stream Media, though frayed, was still functional.

Murdoch, in particular, was alarmed. “I can’t hold this line much longer,” he told them. NASCAR Dad’s and SOCCER Mom’s eyeballs were no longer sticking to the Trailer Trash Pie he was dishing out as “news”.

Priority One was to blame the Neo-Cons = “Jewish Intellectuals” for, in the words of Patrick Buchanan, “mis-leading the leaders of our great country.”

The Neo-Cons would be shunned, hung up to wither and die ~ their brief careers snuffed out under the same FOX fire 24/7 roasting loop of pundits and puffed-up, talk-show demagogues that only months before had been their greatest allies.

There was collateral damage, too ~ a lot of it. Most of the Officer Corps was purged, one result of the House’s Special Committee to Investigate “The Activities of Anti-American Neo-Cons” all over the Federal Government. Federal funding for Jewish organizations, university professors, began to dry up. Then, it got ugly.

“We must question the Family Values of the Jews,” Dobson said. Robertson would come out later that week. “The Jews have failed to assimilate among us. They are practicing abortion and encouraging sex without marriage by promoting birth-control among our children. THEY ARE TEACHING EVOLUTION.”

Angry working- and middle-class Americans quickly seized upon the Talking Points of the new Main-Stream Media “conversation.”

The Democrats, never quick to catch on, found themselves with yet another hideous dilemma confounding them: The Jewish-American voting BLOC was traditionally Democratic. Rovian Republicans had succeeded yet again, beyond their wildest expectaions… Democrats were frozen, their loyalties and logic, maddeningly divided.

Senator Lieberman had already been hounded out of office ~ by the naive NETROOTS progressives; the technorati caught on too late to the blunt RealPolitik of Power. “They would never go THAT FAR,” they blogged ~ never dreaming that SOMEBODY had to take the fall for failure, and it sure as hell wasn’t going to be the CronyCapitalists and the corrupt Republican puppets that they had all worked so hard, for so long, to put in power.

Soon Feinstein and the others would be gone, too. “They betrayed us,” exit-polled voters in California said, “We don’t want these Jews in our Party: THEY CAUSED THE WAR!”


22-JUL-2006 : give them enough rope to hang themselves, the Saudi Prince said wink

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By William, July 24, 2006 at 6:05 pm Link to this comment
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The subtlety of political dialogue rests in what is not said and what is implied in the dialogue. Hayden’s whole article is about what he did not say when he knew the facts.

And, the sleaze-ball is still at it. For instance, he writes that Hezbelloh and Hamas engaged in “provocative kidnappings” instead of the capture of several of the occupation troops. Worse, it implies that Hamas and Hezbelloh anticipated the escalation of the massive dehumanization of the civil life of the people of the Gaza and West Bank areas of Palestine and the death and destruction that accompanies it. In essence, Hayden subtly, but assuredly, blames Hezbelloh and Hamas for what is merely the occupation troops’ intensification of Israel’s ongoing drive for the absorption of the rest of Palestine.

Again, he makes reference to “the incessant rocket attacks on Israel”,  as though this resistance to the brutalizing, murderous occupation of Palestine and its people is like some mindless, random drive-by shooting. Worse, he characterizes it and the actions of the Israel occupation as a “virulent spiral of vengeance” instead of Palestine’s resistance to the virulence of the Israeli occupation’s imposed terror and suffering.

  Finally, Hayden’s perfidy reveals itself most profoundly in his promulgating, hook, line, and sinker, the Israeli assertion that it is about “eradicating Hezbelloh and Hamas altogether” when it is patently obvious that it is the land that they defend against occupation that is in the Israeli eyesight—not as a colonial occupation but as the creation of Eretz (Greater)Israel.

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By susan, July 24, 2006 at 2:59 am Link to this comment
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thanks, tom. cruise that is. for putting an intelligent and current rationale to this overpoliticized and johnny come lately ‘confessionale’ by hayden.

i used to think you had to be a jew to understand the jews.

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By Fadel Abdallah, July 23, 2006 at 4:09 pm Link to this comment
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Self-Defence versus Collective Punishment!

At the heart of the American-supported Israeli onslaught on Gaza and Labanon is the issue of self-defence versus collective punishment.

Those who know a little bit of history beyond who won the last football season, will recall that Nazi Germany was mostly a right-wingers enterprise. When the resistence to Nazi occupation started in German’s occupied territories, Hitler ordered that 50 civilians be executed for each German soldier killed. Despite these barbaric measures, and most likely because of them, the resistance intensified, and history records that resistence groups and their sympathizers hastened the defeat of Nazi Germany.

In balance, though the right-wing dominated United States and the right-wing dominated Zionist theocracy have not yet reached the exact equivalent of Nazi Germany at all levels, they both are capitalizing on every opportunity to match and possibly exceed the Nazi record. Yet, it is no secret they both adopt a Nazi-like obsession with collective punishment.

For example, for the the some 3,000 American killed in the 9/11 attacks, the U.S. government under the neo-Nazis, justified the killing of over 200,000 Afghani and Iraqi civilians thus far, and continues to justify this so-called collateral damage as act of “self-defence.” By this count, using simple math, George Bush and his right-wing junta exceeded Hitler’s 50-to-1 ratio.

The ratio on the Israeli side stands at about 50-to-1, if we take into account the numbers coming from Lebanon; exactly as Hitler’s formula.

“Understanding the difference between self-defense and collective punishment is what might separate Israel and the U.S.- on paper, any way- from the Nazis.”

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By Dr Gupta, July 23, 2006 at 2:36 pm Link to this comment
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Tom Hayden : It is simply not adequate for you to write this Mea Culpa 25 years too late. It is Liberals like you who were duped in the ‘60s by the Zionist wolves wearing the sheepskin of Human Rights and incited to break down the US establishment. After compromising the American Liberal Tradition those wolves are showing their fangs and using the EVIL RACIST OLD TESTAMENT to influence the American Right to engage in new crimes of aggression.

The least you can do is to March on DC to EXPOSE THE JEWISH HYENAS and take back this country from the clutches of the Zionist Neo Cons that you yourself once so willingly collaborated with !!

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By Fuzzybutton, July 23, 2006 at 11:11 am Link to this comment
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We do not give Israel billions of dollars we give them a debit card to buy construction and destruction equipment, bulldozers and bombs. My state has a fund where they invest ? number of dollars in an Israelie enterprize.

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By Harry H. Snyder III, July 23, 2006 at 10:20 am Link to this comment
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The Idea that 9/11 was an inside job makes some sense. 

Sort of a “Pearl Harbor” incident to unite Americans..  Worked less well than Pearl Harbor, but does anything these days work as well as in the Forties?

I’ll have to give this some thought….

Thank you Fadel Abdallah

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By Mark, July 23, 2006 at 10:06 am Link to this comment
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Regarding Comment #14929 by mz on 7/23 at 7:36 am:

I agree with every word, including a, and, and the.

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By mz, July 23, 2006 at 7:36 am Link to this comment
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To “Jew Haters Gone Wild”:

Sir, increasing numbers of Americans are not angry at Jews per se.  We are angry that our government, for whatever reason, puts Israeli interests above U.S. interests.  This attack on Lebanon (like most of our Middle Eastern policy) is NOT in the interests on the American people. 

Never have the interests of the American people and its government been so far from each other.  That 410-8 vote illustrates it.

Your post argues that Israel is morally justified to attack terrorists who attack it.  If that was an accurate statement about what is happening now I would (1) not dispute it; and (2) still argue that it is not in the American people’s interest to take a side in Israeli disputes.

The facts are these, however: (A) Hezbollah captured and killed a small number of SOLDIERS.  (B) At the same time, Israel has over 9000 Arabs (not the Israeli Arabs) in its prisons, and at least 17 members of Hezbollah.  In the months prior to the Hezbollah raid, Israel had crossed into Lebanon and killed people.  (C) Israel and Hezbollah have previously exchanged prisoners.  Consequently the capture of the Israeli soldiers and killing of other soldiers was not an act of terrorism.  It was a part of an ongoing, low-level border war between Israel and the Shi’a Hezbollah in southern Lebanon.  (D) Israel’s bombing and attack of Lebanon was not a spontaneous response, but had been planned for at least a year.  (E) One-third of the dead Lebanese have been children.    The vast majority of killed Lebanese were not Shi’a and not Hezbollah.  (F) A family of Canadians, including four young children, were killed by the indiscriminate Israeli bombing, which has also threatened 25,000 Americans in the country and at least cost them thousands of dollars each as they are forced to flee (the US has helped some,but only to Cyprus). (G) Collective punishment is a war crime.  (H) Hezbollah was formed in the early 1980s after Israel invaded Lebanon and committed war crimes against the Shi’a there.  previously, the Shi’a of southern Lebanon had NOT been enemies of Israel.  Hezbollah has never attacked Americans except for the attack on our Marines in 1983 in Lebanon - where our Marines, President Reagan correctly concluded, did not belong.  (I) Israel has between 200-400 nuclear warhead, which guarantee that no country will ever invade them.

As you can see, the issues for Americans isn’t about Israel’s right to attack and kill children; nor is the issue terrorism in the US, because Hezbollah had nothing to do with 9-11 and does not threaten us. 

As for Israel - its existence is not threatened by terrorists - only Israel’s desire to enlarge its borders is threatened. 

My overall point here is that the USA gives billions of dollars a year to Israel, and we skew our foreign policy to do almost everything Israel wants us to do in that region, and this is NOT IN THE INTERESTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.  There’s nothing anti-Semitic about this conclusion.  You are right that Jews have made invaluable contributions to the world, but this is not relevant to whether our continuing support for Israel is HARMFUL to Americans or not.  (And BTW the vast majority of Jewish contributions to the world have not come from Israel.)  There is a WORLD of difference between the Jews I work and eat lunch with and the crazy Israelis who think nothing of collective punishment and bombing children in retaliation for the capture of two soldiers.  So I suggest you knock off your attempts at making gentiles feel like we owe Israel the billions of dollars we give them annually.  Instead, try arguing that our support of Israel is in the interests of the American people.

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By Zalman, July 23, 2006 at 7:10 am Link to this comment
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It is easy to see that IsraHELL controls America…

And AIPAC has the Senate and Congress BRIBED to vote for anything the jews ask for…

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By mary carey, July 23, 2006 at 5:37 am Link to this comment
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Just one comment regarding someone stating that the Romans did the crucifying.  Would they have crucified HIM if the jewish high priests had not insisted on it?

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By Victor Connor, July 23, 2006 at 5:14 am Link to this comment
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Thank you, Tom, for sharing.

The Israel problem is a significant one. In fact, Israel, is a significant part of American state terrorism. (By Israel, I mean the controlling Israeli power structure.) It should be pointed out that Jews and Israel are not synonymous or equivalent. Israel is the only country on Earth that has a majority of Jewish people. About 75% of the Israeli population is Jewish.

Proof of Israel being an important part of American state terrorism is the amount of foreign aid that the United States government gives to Israel. From 1949 to 2000, the United States government has given Israel $91 billion. With interest costs, which have been borne by the United States, the total cost to American taxpayers has been over $140 billion. The total aid to Israel is about one third of the American foreign-aid budget.

This is an extraordinary fact. Israel is the 30th wealthiest nation in terms of per capita gross domestic product even though they don’t have any oil. That means over 162 countries are poorer than Israel. Why in the world would the United States government be giving one third of its foreign aid to a relatively wealthy nation? This is especially puzzling, because Israelis make up less than 0.1 percent of the people on Earth. If the United States distributes its foreign aid equally among the peoples of the Earth, then Israel is getting over 300 times its share. But Israel is a wealthy country, so its share should be even less, which means it is probably getting over one thousand times its fair share. What is happening here? It appears several things.

One, the United States has armed Israel to the teeth and helped make it the most powerful compact military force in the Middle East, with about 170 nuclear weapons. The United States sold $1 billion worth of weaponry to Israel in direct commercial sales alone in 2002.

Two, most Muslims in the Middle East consider Israel a US military base. And who could argue against this viewpoint? The United States doesn’t sell that many weapons to the rest of the Middle Eastern world combined.

Three, Israel is the most westernized nation in the Middle East. We could consider it a miniature US state in the region. It has strong ties to the United States and often parrots American voting in the United Nations.

Four, an argument can be made for Israel being the major destabilizing force of the Middle East. A united Islam, with its massive oil wealth, squarely facing the United States would scare the pants off of our government. It is better to have the ire of Islam to piddle away its religious and nationalistic energies against Israel, than to demand a fair price for its black gold, respect for its people and religion, or to have them expose United States criminal interventions in the Middle East.

What’s sad for me to imagine is what will happen in twenty years, when the oil spigots are sputtering. Without having built any significant industrial infrastructure, the burgeoning Middle Eastern populations will suddenly become much poorer than they are today. The United States won’t care one whit about Israel. With our policy of backing hard-line Israeli administrations, the hatreds of the poor millions of economically dispossessed Middle Easterners will descend upon Israel in a truly biblical fashion. I’m talking old Testament wrath.

The only advice I could give Israel is to stop being a puppet for the United States government. They don’t care about you. Stop taking their money. You don’t owe them anything. You can’t be like the United States because you’re too small. You can’t possibly accomplish the amount of mayhem that the United States government has with impunity. You just don’t have our resources or our horsepower.

Address the legitimate grievances of the Palestinians. Ask the surrounding Islamic countries for aid in exchange for kicking out the United States government from your country. You may just find out, in twenty years, that you have the best neighbors in the world.

The only advice I can give the Palestinians is to not let their past destroy their future. On our planet, wealthier and more powerful groups have always taken advantage of the poor. Israel could never have done the terrible things it has without the support and the blessings of the United States government. Israel is not your main enemy. Break the cycle of vengeance and work for your future.

Allah has shown himself to the Jews in the Torah. Allah has shown himself to the Christians in the Gospels. And Allah has shown himself to you in the Quran. The first man who raises his fist to another does not respect Allah. All children deserve a chance to know Allah. Do not keep them from that wisdom, just because your heart is hardened. Respect Allah.

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By TimeToTellTheTruthAboutIsrael, July 23, 2006 at 4:53 am Link to this comment
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It is time to tell the truth about Israel.

Israel are racist hate-mongers who want to exterminate the Goy (anybody who isn’t Jewish). Zionism is the problem, not freedom-loving nations of the world—Palestine and Lebanon among them. Hezbollah and Hamas are not ‘terrorist organizations’ any more than were the Founding Fathers of America. These groups were formed in reaction to Israeli agression. Regarding Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Israeli commanders boasted for years that they ‘created’ Hezbollah, but you didn’t hear this on TV now did you? Hey, people gotta defend themselves from tyranny, and those courageous Lebanese and Palestinian ‘terrorists’ are the Mid-East’s version of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry. That is the unadulerated (unfiltered by Jewish media) truth.

Israel/Zionism is the problem. Their Talmud is racist ideology. The Zionists are behind both WWI and WWII. They are the people behind the 20th Century blood-baths all over the globe, not Nazis, not Russia, not America. We Americans are currently being used by the ‘puppet-masters’, and those people are Jews. It isn’t ‘Anti-Semitic’ to stand up and defend the truth. It is very reasonable when your country—and the future of humanity—is under attack. All freedom-loving people should know and understand this instinctively.

Study your history. And skip WIKPEDIA while you are at it. It is a Zionist publication, as are ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, NY Times, LA Times, Time Magazine, Newsweek, Yahoo—most outlets Americans go to get their news. Call these publications ‘Jews News’ because these outlets (collectively termed Mainstream Media or MSM) will never tell the truth about Zionism.

By the way, Israelis are by-and-large not Semitic in origin, and it is NOT ‘Anti-Semitic’ to oppose their policies. Do NOT be afraid of that smear word. They know you are afraid of it, and use this to their advantage.

Besides, Israelis are NOT Semitic in the first place. They are Khazarian (Eastern European) AshkeNAZI Jews (recognize the term?). They are false-Jews, and such is their bellicose behavior. IF YOU NEED TO KNOW WHO A PERSON IS—PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR BEHAVIOR. Are the current Israeli Jews the “Chosen People of God” ?? WATCH THEIR BEHAVIOR. Does it seem God-like to you?

The current Israelis are really Aryan White Supremicists in the true-est sense of the term. These people created and funded the Nazis, the Communists, and the KKK in America (David Duke is a Jew).

Why does this matter? The AshkeNAZI Jews currently run the US Government, they control the US money supply, an

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By M Henri Day, July 23, 2006 at 3:28 am Link to this comment
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While hardly surprising, it is sad to see that facile canard that those who dare to question Israel’s domestic and foreign policies are «Jew haters» who, moreover, have «gone wild» appearing on this forum. Some of these so-called «Jew haters» who condemn the criminal policies followed by Israeli governments, whether led by Likud, Labour, or Kadima, are, in fact, eminent citizens of Israel with a Jewish background, but for these, people like our dear anonymous correspondent have coined a new epithet - «self-hating Jews». Indeed, there are contributors to this forum who seem to dislike Jews in the much the same way that «Wow Jew Haters Gone Wild» seems to dislike Muslims - «whereever [sic ! MHD] there’s trouble, muslims are there trying to dominate and destroy non muslims» - but a reasonable reading of the postings indicates that they are a minority. The problem with those in power in Israel is not what they are but what they <u>do</u>, just as the problem, made so explicit by Tom Hayden’s account of his political experience, with AIPAC and its members is not who they are, but what they do. This, of course, is what the subject of our discussion should be, but people like «Wow ...» can’t seem to accept this type of discourse, and so always attempt to turn it into one of for (the side of the angels) or against (the <u>other</u> side) the Jews - indeed, making the Jews qua Jews the centre of the discussion (die Judenfrage) is, to my mind the very essence of anti-Semitism….

For what <u>should</u> be the subject of the discussion, readers are encouraged to take a look at Ted Rall’s recent cartoon (but the figure of the «US ambassador», who, of course, would fully and whole-heartedly collude with the «Holocaust maneouvre», would have to be replaced with one representing the «progressive forces in the USA», who, alas, are so stymied by AIPAC that they haven’t a clue). To see the consequences of waging a principled fight against that organisation, it is enlightening to consider the experience of Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, one of the very few that has had the balls to do so….

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By John F. Butterfield, July 23, 2006 at 1:46 am Link to this comment
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live long and prosper.

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By Padishah, July 23, 2006 at 12:19 am Link to this comment
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I must address the complete drivel that was Mr Jeff Gershoff’s comment.

First and foremost, in 2002, with the full backing of the Arab league, Saudi Arabia offered the Israeli’s a peace treaty - I repeat - a peace treaty in the form of the Egyptian and Jordanian ones, stating the formal end to the Arab-Israeli conflict, recognition of Israel, and a whole host of other concessions in return for Israel returning all of the Occupied Territories captured during the 1967 war, and a just solution to the Palestinian humanitarian problem, amongst other concessions.

Generalissimo Sharon outright refused to aknowledge this peace deal, and it withered. US Administration said nothing, the US media allowed the story to die. So your statement:

“Let Hamas and Hezbolah recognize Israels right to exist and there can be peace.  Let them keep strapping explosives to themselves and killing women and children, let them keep lobbing missles into Israel and Israel will continue doing what they are doing until one of them cannot get up off the canvas anymore.”

is quite irrelevant, seeing as Hamas was not governing the Palestinian territories, and Hezbollah was not governing Lebanon in 2002. A general Peace deal with the Arab World was allowed to die, and you suggest that Israel will be willing to deal with two entities it thinks are terrorist organisations.

Furthermore, you ask for the Arabs to make the first move. Always, the onus is on the Arab side to make many concessions even before Israel consider negotiation. There is no equal footing with which to negotiate with Israel because Israel will not allow it to be so. History and current events show that even if the Arabs were to accede to all Israeli demands, there is no gaurantee that the Israeli’s will not find some other demand in order to stall, or even to not just ignore Arab overtures out of spite. Indeed, judging from recent events, they seem quite capable of it.

Your statement:

“No one gave a rats ass about the Palestinians when their “home land” was squalor, flies, and dirt.  Israel turned it into a garden and now everyone demands Palestine for the Palestinians.”

seems to imply that imprisonment in an Israeli garden; where your house can be demolished, or your olive and fruit groves be uprooted depending on your heritage, is much better than freedom in your own country, however squalid, fly-ridden or dirty. Furthermore, a land totally at peace would need no-one to give ‘a rat’s ass’ (in your parlance) about it anyway, and is a misrepresentation of the historical situation. Your statement smacks of the colonialist attitude of the 19th and early 20th Centuries. Would you also hold this view for all those people of colour, who were enslaved and brutalised in many instances around the world? Would you believe that the sexual slavery of women practices in some parts of the world somehow beneficial to the women who must suffer those indignities?

It’s obvious from your comment that you harbour a prejudice for Palestinians in particular, and Arabs in general; they aren’t fit for the land they occupy, and only Israeli’s can make the Middle East bloom. Thus, by extension, all Arabs deserve to suffer under the heel of Zionism, for their own good. Corrrect? Does this sound eerily like the whole ‘White Man’s Burden’ trollop that precipitated the excesses of the colonisation of Africa? It certainly does, and it fits with the Israeli mindset as well.

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By eleven bravo, July 22, 2006 at 9:24 pm Link to this comment
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Israel likes to spy on the country that feeds it to the tune of billions to date and then calls the traitor who spied on us, a hero -just the kind of ally we need in the middle east.  By the way, they also like to sell our military technologies even if we tell them not to - China sure appreciates it.  Remember, do not forget the USS Liberty.  Some Brits certainly remember that these same Israelis that cry holy terror about terrorism were terrorists themselves when the Brits were in Palestine and they to this day are unrepentant for the terrorist acts they performed.

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By blues, July 22, 2006 at 8:32 pm Link to this comment
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Wow Jew Haters Gone Wild said:

Jews have contributed their energy, intellect, resources to every progressive cause in modern history.  And yet you so-called progressives just turn your back, raise the chorus of Jew blame, and think you’re moral? [....]

Well, yeah, I guess. In some ways, I think it could be argued that the Navajo have done far more.

But the power-mad neozionists that have hijacked the Nation of Israel have been treating all their neighbors worse than cockroaches for decades. And they have warped, probably wrecked our American society in the process. They collaborated with the vicious apartheid Union of South Africa to enable the South African tyrants and themselves to develop nuclear WMDs. So that just doesn’t make me feel friendly toward neozionists.

As far as the question of weather I harbor any actual hatred of Jewish people themselves, you will never begin to be able to discover the answer to that. I could easily bear the fervent wish that every Jew be burned alive in an oven, all the while pretending to love the Jews. Or I could accept Jews as just people who practice a particular religion, bearing no ill-will at all against them, while proclaiming to Jew-hating neighbors that I detest the Jews as much as they do. But you will never be able to begin to decipher what I truly feel.

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By Toole, July 22, 2006 at 7:39 pm Link to this comment
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Israel and the U.S.A. are, by their present alliance to dominate, taking a walk to the wild side just like Hitler and Nazi Germany.

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By Fadel Abdallah, July 22, 2006 at 7:22 pm Link to this comment
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To plunger, message # 14774

You piece on 9/11 is well reasoned and makes a lot of sense, and I thank you much for your interst in digging out the truth about this very tragic event and its far-reaching disastrous consequences on the whole world.

There is no hope of finding physical evidence to prove who and how it all happened. This is so for the simple fact that the sophisticated team that planned this inside job made sure to destroy any physical evidence possible.

In light of this, serious thinkers are only left to use their intellectual reasoning and circumstantial evidence to reach an approximation about the facts related to 9/11.

Yours is indeed a very serious analysis, and, most likely, very close to the truth. That’s why I was intrigued by your piece. I was particulary intrigued about your being specific on the Mossad role as a way to blackmail the political establishment. Remember Monica Lewinsky? I theorized, at the time, and wrote about her being an Israeli Mossad agent, planted in the White House to bring about the fall of Clinton, who was getting a little bit sympathysing to solving the Palestinian problem. 

Your piece also supports my thinking about 9/11; about which I wrote a short comment somewhere else on the truthdig. In case you have not read my piece, I am attaching it below:

“To Janice A. # 14474:

You’re very smart Janice. You’re one of the few thousands in America and around the world who believe 9/11 was an inside evil job, to create the atmosphere of fear in preparation for the trauma and mind control you talked about.

I simply could not believe and will never believe that some people living in caves and constantly on the run could have carried out such sophisticated operation. This is not to say that Al-Qaeda had not enough hate for America to attempt hurting it in a big way when they could; but from a scientific point of view, know-how and sophisticated human resources, they did not have that, and no small group of enemies will ever have what it takes to prepare and carry out such operation. And imagine that!! The hijackers had only box-cutters as their weapons! From all those on board the hijacked planes, wasn’t there a few courageous enough who were willing to get injured and possibly die to prevent a bigger disaster?!!

Elements in the Pentagon, CIA, FBI with possibly a lot of help from the Israeli Mossad must have started working on this just as Bush was put on the throne by the Supreme Court! For Bush and the Neocons to continue ruling the country and taking it in the direction they have taken it, something tragically big must have to take place! Everyone knows, that in every country and society there is that class of people called the merchants of death! For what happened in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and now Lebanon, 9/11 was a must prerequisite!

Sad as it is to invoke thoughts about the 9/11, I always find consolation to find like-minded people. Thank you Janice for being a free thinker and publicly join the small but privileged group!”

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By Mark, July 22, 2006 at 7:20 pm Link to this comment
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By the way: if Americans generally ever finally start to figure out what a false ally Israel really is, there is of course the danger of an upwelling of anti-Semitism in America. Let’s look at exactly why this is so.

The essential misunderstanding that may lead to such a horrible development is a failure of Americans to distinguish between Israel and “the Jews”. This is a conflation that Israel and many American Jewish leaders have done much to encourage.

Any strong condemnation of Israel’s actions, of its ethnocratic ideology, or of its interference in our political process, is regularly condemned as inherently “anti-Semitic” by prominent members of the mainstream American Jewish community. Right-wing American Christians — perhaps even more extreme than American Jews in their adherence to the notion of Israel’s blameless holiness — eagerly echo this charge.

And so, despite the fact that American Jews are in fact over-represented among intellectuals and activists who expose and denounce the crimes of the state of Israel, we may well see such a surge of anti-Semitic backlash in this country, if and when most Americans come to some glimmer of understanding concerning the worse-than-useless US/Israeli “alliance”.

Americans in general are not terribly sophisticated. This is why such a ludicrously one-sided alliance, so destructive to American interests, was ever possible in the first place. And it’s why an anti-Semitic reaction may accompany its end.

If this backlash should happen, then to Israel and to the American Jews who have laid the foundation for it, I have three words from a great Jewish philosopher: AS YE SEW.

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By Wow Jew Haters Gone Wild, July 22, 2006 at 6:18 pm Link to this comment
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Wow, just read this thing and be amazed at the level of knee jerk jew hating, blindness to history, and desire for the death of Israel.  So sad.  If these terror groups lay down their weapons and agreed to stop attacking Israel tomorrow, that would be the end of war.  If Israel lay down their weapons and agreed to stop hitting back at the terror groups, it would be overrun tomorrow and a new holocaust would ensue.  Apparently, that suits the jew haters just fine.  Islamic fascism is fascism, and again Jews stand against it while the moral ambivalence or antisemitism of non Jews seeks to guarantee yet another cycle of jew killing.  SHAME, SHAME.  It’s sad that Israel’s only friend can be found in the Bush government, but that doesn’t make ISrael complicit in anything that Bush does.  If you have only one friend and you’re fighting for your life, you don’t question that friendship.  More power to Israel in this fight for their life.  Look at the numbers of arabs killed by arabs, of non muslims killed by muslims, of the track record of muslims in the world today (whereever there’s trouble, muslims are there trying to dominate and destroy non muslims).  Jews have contributed their energy, intellect, resources to every progressive cause in modern history.  And yet you so-called progressives just turn your back, raise the chorus of jew blame, and think you’re moral?  You better hope that in the end we don’t all get what we deserve.

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By Harry H. Snyder III, July 22, 2006 at 4:07 pm Link to this comment
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I surely didn’t say anything about Jews crucifying anyone…

HOWEVER crucifiction was hardly exclusively a “Roman thing”

This means of punishment was practiced by Persians, Seleucids, Jews, Carthaginians, among others.  There is even some evidence it was practiced in Egypt.

reflex action?  by whom?

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By John Z, July 22, 2006 at 3:41 pm Link to this comment
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Marcia, of course Ishrael wants peace…..a piece of Iraq, a piece of Iran, a piece of Syria and a piece of lebanon.
They also have our own government by the balls through, bribery, extortion and threats. I and thouroughly disgusted and sick to my stomach from it all.
It is time for a new American revolution.
We must:
Take our government back from those who have corrupted it for their own benefit, including Ishrael.
Prosecute those within the Whore House for betraying our nation, our constitution and its people. The punishment must be severe enough to deter any who might think about doing it again in the future.
Stop paying tribute to that miserable little zionist state. No more money period! enough is enough, goddamn it!
Congress should get its collective asses kicked, and maybe in the balls as well.
Break all ties with Ishrael..they are on their own from now on. That way they will have to behave themselves. As long as they have the U.S. as their
rich poodle Ishrael will continue to act like a pitbull.
Round up the zionists, MOSSAD, AIPAC and the jew lobby and send them packing back to zionland.
Use the laws we have to break up the jewish stranglehold on our media, including the newspapers. There are enough anti monopoly laws with which to use.
Please realise I have nothing against people of Judaism. It’s the rabid, racist, zionist who I find to be our own worst enemy.
Thank you Tom, for finally coming out with enough
guts and patriotism to speak out on this matter.
Even our founding fathers spoke out against zionism.
Unless we change the course of our nation, we will be “undone”. I fear for my country and for those in the middle east for they are the ones who are the victims of zionist aggression.
Now I will wait for the zionists to send their hitmen to my house.

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By John F. Butterfield, July 22, 2006 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment
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Crucifiction was a Roman thing. Jews have often been on the receiving end of brutality. Whether they have more often been teachers of brutality or learners from brutality can be disputed. That they have killed more Arabs in the last 60 years than Arabs have killed Jews in that same time period cannot be disputed. The side that the United States has taken in the disagreement cannot be disputed. It was interesting to see your reflex action.

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By blues, July 22, 2006 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment
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This article has pushed me beyond some point of critical mass. My world-view will never be the same.

What we are looking at here goes beyond issues like anti- Jewish sentiment, terrorism, capitalism, etc, etc, etc. We have been victims to a vast media conspiracy that has parlayed a typical religious ideal into a powerful, violent cult of death, and allowed that cult to play a key role in the establishment of a fascist regime in the United States. It needs to be called the neocon/ neomedia/ neozionist conspiracy of treason, or something like that.

These pseudo- religious traitriots are destroying America and the rest of the world too, including the people of the Middle East, including the Jewish ones, apparently for sport. This is evil in its purest form. I am stunned.

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By Harry H. Snyder III, July 22, 2006 at 5:19 am Link to this comment
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Back when crucifiction was occuring in the Middle East the Brits were drawing and quartering folks, the Spanish were killing witches and most of Europe was pre civilized.

I will not be a party to a conversation where we blame one side or the other for this disagreement which clearly has enough blame to cover the northern hemisphere.

I thought the point of Tom’s message was that there are two valid points of view here?

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“PURE EVIL” Does A Deal With “THE DEVIL.”

PURE EVIL is Dick Cheney.

THE DEVIL is Israel’s Mossad.

THE DEAL was 9/11.


Cheney perceived the perfect partner in the perfect crime to be Israel’s Mossad.  Cunning, ruthless, skilled, connected, covert - the “False Flag” experts.

As is now clear and agreed upon by all, the Bush Sr. / Cheney Administration (in which Shrub is merely a spokesperson and useful idiot) adopted the PNAC plan as its own.  Cheney found within it the opportunity to capture vast resource-rich territory in a World War blamed on others, and thereby enrich himself and his friends.

9/11 proved not to be the perfect crime, and the co-conspirators actually got caught, and have been covering up their crime and silencing their “enemies” ever since.

Israel and Cheney were both caught red-handed on 9/11 itself.

Cheney was caught when Norm Minetta walked in on him in the midst of barking out the orders that allowed the A3 Skywarrior to strike the Pentagon without being shot down.

Israel’s Mossad was caught when their five agents were arrested after being observed celebrating and filming the impact and subsequent collapse of the Twin Towers.  They weren’t just arrested, they had with them video taped evidence of themselves celebrating on camera as the towers fell (as would a demolitions team after a successful implosion).


These events are factual.  They occurred.


The lengths to which the US and Israeli governments have gone to bury these and other historic events are evidence of their complicity in 9/11.

Cheney was wrong to have selected Israel as any kind of partner in crime.  Israel was not going to be content to share the spoils of war, Israel wants ALL the spoils of war, and has at its disposal ALL of the tools and leverage to literally destroy the United States, and is in the midst of doing so right this very moment.

Why the silence from the Bush Administration with respect to Israel’s destruction and acquisition of territory?

BLACKMAIL - plain and simple.

Through Abramoff, Franklin, Lieberman, Chertoff and their thousands of moles within the US Government, in concert with their vast network of installed monitoring software, data retrieval and listening devices, Israel has compromised virtually every Administration official AS WELL AS nearly every US Senator and Congressman.

Israel has evidence of all of them accepting bribes, because Israel was behind the bribes and recorded evidence of all of it.  Israel has evidence of sexual escapades out of wedlock, because Israel arranged for it, and documented it.  Israel has direct evidence of the Administrations role in 9/11, because Israel partnered in it.

Israel controls the Mainstream US Media, and the Administration KNOWS IT.

As we speak, Israel is threatening the administration with the total exposure of their role in 9/11 if they even begin to interfere with Israel’s plan to take out not just Lebanon, but also Syria AND Iran, using NUCLEAR WEAPONS - all within the next ten days.

The bombs that we are rushing to Israel at this very moment…the bunkerbusters to be delivered by the F-15s - are they nuclear?

If the US had any ACTUAL LEVERAGE or ability to slow down Israel’s mad territory grab and death machine, the least they would be doing is holding back delivery of bombs.

As with EVERY member of the Bush Administration, Condaleeza Rice has no power whatsoever over Israel.  They’re blackmailing her too.

Israel has already accomplished its goal.  It has completely compromised the integrity and security of the United States Of America.  It is in total control of the US Treasury, Defense Department, Congress - every institution and branch of government.

The culture of corruption in Washington met its match in Israel.  The co-conspirators thought they had an equal partner in crime, but they have now come to realize that this was a very long term and elaborate sting - for the ultimate prize - control of the United States Of America and its Nuclear Arsenal.

This is where we stand today.  Literally everyone in Washington knows it.  All of the retired Generals and Bush Senior advisors are on highest alert.

The Bush Administration is in the midst of the biggest disaster ever conceived, and unless they do EVERYTHING that Israel demands, the evidence of their crimes will be plastered across every major newspaper in the United States.

The Administration knows for a fact that Israel is going to nuke Iran and Syria.  The only choice the Administration has to stop Israel from nuking these two countries, is to Nuke Israel itself.  Even this though will not prevent the Truth of 9/11 from being revealed.




Nuclear war is coming either way, and its coming right now.


“The Crazies” as Colin Powell referred to the Zionists, have won - and he personally enabled it.

“President Bush said to all of us: ‘I’m driven with a mission from God. ‘God would tell me, ‘George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan’.” “And I did, and then God would tell me, ‘George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq…’ And I did.

Secretary of State Rice’s response to the disaster in New Orleans was: “The Lord Jesus Christ is going to come on time.” She added: “If we just wait.” “On time”? How does Rice know the exact time Armageddon starts? “If we just wait”? That means in her, that is our, lifetime!

“At Church one day [Tom DeLay, House Majority Leader] listened as the pastor declared that ‘the war between America and Iraq is the gateway to the Apocalypse.’ DeLay rose to speak, not only to the congregation but to 225 Christian TV and radio stations. ‘Ladies and gentlemen,’ he said, ‘what has been spoken here tonight is the truth of God.’”




“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.



Only by revealing the entire truth and arresting all of the guilty parties can the threat of Blackmail be removed.

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By John F. Butterfield, July 21, 2006 at 5:22 pm Link to this comment
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Somewhere along the way, long before the United States fought a proxy war for Israel in Iraq, the Jews learned a lot about crucifying people.

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By Mark, July 21, 2006 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment
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I have a suggestion: let’s all send big checks to those lonely 8 or so Congresspersons who bravely defied AIPAC by voting against the resolution blessing dear little Israel’s sickening murder of Lebanon.

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By Carte Dumonde, July 21, 2006 at 2:47 pm Link to this comment
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About your comment:

“Otherwise we will witness a tacit alliance between Israel and the U.S. to dominate the Middle East militarily.”

Far from being a “tacit alliance” something else is at work. So I share this revelation-



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By Harry H. Snyder III, July 21, 2006 at 12:25 pm Link to this comment
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It is hard for us regular working folks, those not spending all our time studying this issue, to determine the “right” and “wrong”. 

Growing up in New York, I have many Jewish friends some of whom I love dearly.  Working on the Pine Ridge in the Seventies, I am deeply concerned by land theft.

Who owns the Middle East?  Christians, Jews, and Muslims have history on the site of present day Isreal. 

Abraham had two wives.  It would have helped the current situation if he favored his offspring equally.

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By Jose Chung, July 21, 2006 at 10:37 am Link to this comment
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Obviously it never occurred to you that the vote in congress (410-8) yesterday was animated by moral clarity.

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By Dennis Schneider, July 21, 2006 at 6:46 am Link to this comment
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Don’t worry about Israel’s transgressions, Iran will finish them off.  The U.S. better start worrying about the World wide depression if they or Israel attacks Iran.  The planet long term will be better off.  The Moslems in the Middle East do not contribute to Global Warming.

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By M Henri Day, July 21, 2006 at 6:25 am Link to this comment
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It is indeed a strange world* in which we live. (The leadership of) the USA has the rest of the world by a certain sensitive part of the anatomy and thereby can turn off the blood supply to the brain at will - witness the enormous brouhaha that occured when North Korea, a small country of 23 millions which hasn’t been involved in a shooting war since 1953 (that no peace treaty has been signed to replace the armistice which ended fighting in Korea is due to decisions made not by the North Korea, but by the government of the United States) and which, while it may or may not possess six to eight «nuclear devices», has never tested one, recently tested a few missiles (its adversaries, the US and Japan test missiles all the time). When, on the other hand, India, a rather large country with a population exceeding a thousand millions, and which since 1947 has been involved in three major and one minor war with one neighbour (the last as recently as 1999) and one border conflict with another, and is estimated to possess as many as 100 nuclear warheads, which <u>have</u> been tested, performs a test a couple of days later, «the international community» reacts with utter silence (save, of course, for Pakistan, which might once again feel the brunt of a war made in India). Of course, the difference is that India had received imperial authorisation for its test by no less a personage than General Pace (cf Praful Bidwai’s insightful article, India exposed by missile failure in the Asia Times of 12 July), as the US leadership hopes that India may prove useful in countering China….

This grip on the rest of the world can be explained by the USA’s size (300 millions), military (a budget greater than that of the rest of the world combined and a willingness to invade others that has been demonstrated time and again after WW II), economic (still the world’s biggest, whose consumption fuels the production that takes place elsewhere), and cultural (what film or TV-programme did <u>you</u> last watch ?) prowess. But just as the US has a the rest of the world in a bind, a small country of 6 millions, which admittedly is no military slouch, having an estimated 200 nuclear warheads (like those of the North Koreans, untested, unless somebody has done it for them) and a confirmed willingness to use its military power on others, but which is dependent for its existence upon annual largesse from US taxpayers, has manage to couple that same grip on the mighty USA itself ! Tom Hayden’s article goes a long way to explaining how….

*Mondo cane

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Writes “JF” (“Jewish fascist”?):

“Israel must expand. period.
Now it seems they have found the balls to actualize that wish.
Who will stop them? Her every child is a soldier!
And so many kids per mother! ...Historical forces are not moral in any fixed way. “

OK, then, if this is simply an amoral process of might making right,of the Master Race taking its rightful Lebensraum, then we can dispense with all the usual justifications for lavish US support of Israel, which are wholly based on nauseating upgutches of moral and religious sentiment.

Now, since we’re being so amoral about it: looking at it coldly, from the point of view of AMERICAN interest, we must drop this tar baby, which is nothing but a parasitically expensive terrorism magnet for the United States of America.

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By firstprimate, July 21, 2006 at 5:02 am Link to this comment
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For all those who still wonder ‘why do they hate us’.

The date on Mohamed Atta’s last will and testament is 11 April 1996.

The date of the last Israeli invasion of Lebanon is 11 April 1996.

From Antiwar

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By Amy, July 20, 2006 at 8:45 pm Link to this comment
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The recent resolution that was passed in the House of Representatives supporting Israel in their fight against Hizbollah by a 410-8 margin, clearly shows that the Israel lobby has a level of influence unmatched by any foreign power. 

It becomes problematic when the US is making policy decisions that benefit Israel at the expense of our own self interest.  The war in Iraq was rationalized in part, as a way to bring peace to replace regimes which are hostile to Israel with regimes that were friendly.  Of course, things didn’t turn out as planned.

Now the US offical policy is to allow Israel to attack lebanon at will, regardless of innocent casualties and loss.  I can’t beleive it’s in our interest to fully back a war which is immoral, or illegal, if not both.

In fact, Israel could very well be the loser in the long run, the hatred and emnity this war will produce will outlast any gains against Hizbollah. Ironically, Israel would have been far better served by the US if we had said from the very beginning, no.

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By David, July 20, 2006 at 7:10 pm Link to this comment
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Thanks VERY much, Tom, for this courageous statement and its clarity and precision.  I teach at the University of Oklahoma and I’m a bit embarrassed that one of my students sent me this link (instead of vice versa)...  He had read DEMOCRACY IS IN THE STREETS last semester…

The most important thing is how to get this statement more widely noticed, more widely read, more media attention.

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By Jane Hunter, July 20, 2006 at 5:35 pm Link to this comment
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Tom, thank you very much for writing about what happened in 1982. Those photos taken on the border bothered me for years, even though I’ve always understood the exigencies. Talking about how you got there gives added credibility to what you’re saying now.

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By Wayne Bauer, July 20, 2006 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment
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Tom, great article. You really nailed it. I’m sending it to Boxer and Feinstein (yeah, that’ll work). Thanks Tom.

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By PeaceForLebanon, July 20, 2006 at 2:52 pm Link to this comment
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Please go to and sign the Save the Lebanese Civilians Petition and forward this invitation to your friends. If you think this has nothing to do with security, think again! Israeli bombs, paid by the US taxpayer, are not only killing hundreds of civilians but are also recruiting a whole new generation of terorists.

Lebanese civilians have been under the constant attack of the state of Israel for several days. The State of Israel, in disregard to international law and the Geneva Convention, is launching a maritime and air siege targeting the entire population of the country. Innocent civilians are being collectively punished in Lebanon by the state of Israel in deliberate acts of terrorism as described in Article 33 of the Geneva Convention.

This is from Juan Cole (

“Only for those with really strong stomachs. This is what some of the hundreds of civilians killed by the Israeli military in Lebanon look like. Very graphic and disturbing. I disavow the labeling in the site. But this is a war, and this is what war looks like, and I think it is necessary to stare it right in the face:”

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By Ruth, July 20, 2006 at 2:32 pm Link to this comment
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Thank you Tom for being a voice of reason.  You need to get back into politics bcause we need more leaders with your integrity.

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By DK, July 20, 2006 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment
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Thanks Tom.  Pretty rationale.

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By Hal Womack, July 20, 2006 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment
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The nameless NaZionist “jf” above tries to argue for a Jewish version of Manifest Destiny, appealing to the supposed precedent of the normal alias “gentile” white man’s conquest of the North American continent from the indigenous “Indian” tribes in the 1800’s. If the Christian Yanks could get away with taking Utah from Utes back then, sez this “jf”-er, then the Jews with their A-bombs & high tech military etc. can take whatever they want in the Middle East from the native Arabs and, for that matter, from the Persians and from anybody else, too. 
  In making this favorite argument of theirs, the joojingoes or JJ’s, as I have dubbed them, vainly seek to dismiss out of hand the Nuremburg Doctrine emphatically outlawing aggressive war as the greatest of all crimes known to our human species. The victorious Allies laid down this fundamental basis of modern world law in 1945, sealing the verdict in blood by hanging a few German and Japanese leaders on the basis of _ex post facto_ kangaroo convictions. From the deepest legal POV therefore, the Jews got into the great grab game just three years too late to qualify as legitimate landholders by right of conquest but in plenty of time to incriminate themselves as mass murderers subject to the extreme penalty as long as they live.
Although the other huge differences between the scattered migratory hunters and gatherers of the 1800’s vs. the anciently settled, stone house-dwelling, title-holding Arab farmers of Palestine can for the moment safely be left aside, we should note for future reference
Yitzhak Shamir’s assassination of Count Folke Bernadotte, the United Nations’ Chief Mediator for Palestine, in Jerusalem on Friday 17 September 1948. 
  In one of the finer ironies of history, the Jews as a unique & peculiar international caste have wormed their tribal way straight into the high & tight nook which more than a century and a half ago the exalted prophet Karl Marx vaguely foretold for generic monopoly “capitalists” in his revolutionary COMMUNIST MANIFESTO.  By setting up the Great War, the Atomic War and numerous lesser conflicts in the last century, the Jews have gathered into their claws the reins of global power, thereby establishing their tyranny, and are now grinding the treads of their battletanks into the faces of Arab children in a deliberate attempt to overawe the Seven Billion of us. So we ain’t gonna miss ‘em when they’re gone.
  In order to secure our own happiness and survival, our rainbow race must pull down these cultish wretches and their toadies or jootools such as the Bushes and the Clintons from their grievously abused positions of power in all sectors of our society. We will then face the epochal challenge of finally constituting a genuine world democracy rather than the hideous mockery thereof which SonnaBush & the Sulzbergerz mindlessly tout.

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By Sharif, July 20, 2006 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment
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I think Marcia would, if she were being honest, admit that the several million people in the Middle East don’t all think alike.

Even so, it’s clearly a racist opinion (flip it around and assign a pejorative attitude to all inhabitants of Israel - a far smaller number - and it’s easy to see), and all the worse because it’s probably not sincerely held.

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By Mark, July 20, 2006 at 11:46 am Link to this comment
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‘Jose Chung’ [yeah, sure!] writes: “Hezzbollah is fighting ‘oppression’ in Lebanon? That is why it attacked Israel?”

You may be assuming that, like most Americans, everyone here is unaware that Israel’s “withdrawal” from Lebanon several years back was complete.

Too bad for you, some of us know that Israel never did really withdraw from Lebanon, that they’ve continiuing to hold chunks fo the south in the typical process of slow annexation that follows every one of their aggressions.

And as for “kidnapping”: Israel has arbitrarily and indefinitely “kidnapped” hundreds of Lebanese (Bush-style) on the slightest whim or suspicion without charges, redress, or hope of release. Hezbollah for a long time warned that if Israel continued to ignore this grievance, they’d be forced to take an Israeli soldier in response. THAT is why they did this — and perhaps also in sympathy and solidarity with the over 9,000 Palestinians whom the Israelis have similarly “kidnapped” and continue to hold.

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By Jose Chung, July 20, 2006 at 10:11 am Link to this comment
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Who does this joker, Dr. Musil Shihadeh, think he is kidding? Hezzbollah is fighting “oppression” in Lebanon? That is why it attacked Israel? To fight oppression? When everybody knows that Israel left Lebanon six years ago?

Same story with Gaza. Israel left Gaza 11 months ago.

There has long been a lie invented by the Palestinians, and passed on by the ignorant and and gullible western media, that occupation creates terrorism.

We see now, quite clearly, that the reverse is true: that terrorism creates occupation.

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By jf, July 20, 2006 at 9:57 am Link to this comment
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When the IDF began sinking its teeth into Lebanon last week, one could hear the sound of the American electorate turning right, again.
And so, The Dems are screwed in 2008, again.
Can’t you feel the wind shift?

Long term:

Should the U.S. congress give Utah back to the Ute tribe, with reparations, etc?

Should China give the vast natural riches of Tibet back to a group of unarmed fuedal theocrats in Lhasa?

No one dreams of such epic colonial adventures, or their outcomes, however immoral, being overturned in such a way—nevermind “humanity” or “peace” considerations. Let’s talk American history! How did Texas come into U.S. control? Shall we return it to Mexico?

the American “Homeland” was a handfull of crappy farms in Massachusetts 400 years ago. how did it change? think!

just so with Israel, whose history, however long or short, is bound up with the US’s. they must show their need to expand by expanding, not by eloquent humanism.

with so many on the left calling for “exit plans” it yet seems that we have just begun to scratch the surface of the “entrance plan” of what may prove to be something like England’s colonial adventures in India.

But here, it will be Syria and Iraq to suffer the knife, so that “The Coalition” may prosper. amen.

What would happen if the IDF nukes the cities of Syria, as the US did with Japan? think about it.

Israel must expand. period.
Now it seems they have found the balls to actualize that wish.
Who will stop them? Her every child is a soldier!
And so many kids per mother!

Historical forces are not moral in any fixed way.
Peace is impossible without respect for each other.

So, let me know when Jews and Arabs respect each other.  i’ll be in my bunker waiting for your message.


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By Amy, July 20, 2006 at 9:53 am Link to this comment
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Thanks, Tom for sharing your experiences with the pro-Israel lobby.  I never imagined that so much pressure was used to keep US politicans in line.  It’s one thing to persuade, it’s another to coerce.

That explains why almost every American politican is mum right now about the injustice and criminality of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon and why few are complaining about Bush’s lack of interest in brokering a cease fire.

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By Mark, July 20, 2006 at 9:32 am Link to this comment
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The amazing stranglehold of Israel over our foreign policy is why we have a situation where we destroy and occupy Iraq for Israel at our own vast expense, then applaud and sponsor Israel as it wantonly destroys the defenseless country of Lebanon, and THEN we tell Americans caught in the Israel’s blitzkrieg that they must pay for there tardy rescue flights, which will only get them as far as the island of Cyprus — after which they can just go to blazes as far as their government is concerned.

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By Shannon, July 20, 2006 at 6:40 am Link to this comment
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Hey guys. I’m not American, but I think if I was I’d be making more of an effort in stopping this thing.  At the very least, start an online petition. Get a ballot proposition. You only need 8% of registered voters in California.  All this talk is good, but there’s so much more you could do.  These forums should be a source of collective action, not collective complaining.

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By Blowback Warning, July 20, 2006 at 6:03 am Link to this comment
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Those whom are bombed today will seek revenge tomorow.

Pray for peace and hope they don’t strike back

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By Mark, July 20, 2006 at 5:00 am Link to this comment
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Darby writes: “I fear a resolution is a hop, step, and a jump to the U.S. invading Iran, Syria or both.”

Oh, yes indeed. Israel saw that public support for a fast US withdrawal from Iraq had reached a point where the corporate media can no longer pretend that this is a “marginal” view.

So Israel forced our hand. They’ve started there dearly desired World War III by destroying utterly defenseless Lebanon, and now their lobbyists who control our Congress are screaming their heads off that we can’t just leave the mess they made—we have to “finish the job” for them by joining a general war to destroy every country standing in the way of Israel’s imperial plans—and the more millions of Muslims and Arabs we kill the better.

“Just tell the idiot Christians in Kansas that it’s all for Jesus,” they snicker.

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By Diana, July 20, 2006 at 3:37 am Link to this comment
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I am glad you wrote this.  I heard you speak at a Unitarian Universalist meeting a few years ago, but what you did and said in 1982 was in my mind the whole time and I couldn’t help wondering if you still felt that way.  I, too, was very pro-Israel until 1982, but that event made me reexamine my whole attitude toward the conflict and I have completely changed my mind.  Since I wasn’t then and am not now famous, I don’t have to explain why I was wrong until 1982, but thank you for explaining what happened then.

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By zene, July 20, 2006 at 2:38 am Link to this comment
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Um, Eliane, while I appreciate your vehemence, I’d like to remind you of something you may have forgotten:
In Lebanon, we, the LEBANESE, are dying too. In droves now actually. Not just AMERICAN and CANADIAN citizens. While it may seem like a shocker, I know, given that it is the last accepted form of racism to publicly acknowledge that Arab lives are not worth a fraction of Israeli ones (see John Bolton, Maureen Lipman, Ann Coulter, every Israeli leader since 1948…), I’m here to tell you that they do.
Thank you.

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By Dr. Musil Shihadeh, July 19, 2006 at 11:55 pm Link to this comment
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Why would a Palestinian Christian, like myself, support Hizbellah and Hamas? I oppose any religious ideology, yet I support these groups because, for the time being, they represent courageous groups who are feverishly fighting oppression in Palestine and Lebanon. I will definitely part ways with them after liberation because oppression does not differentiate between Christians and Moslems as it strikes very cruely against both. Tome Hayden unveiling Israeli lobby power is a bit too late in expressing his “new” views, but late than never. I remember his support of the Israeli army in his devestating campaign in Lebanon in 1982 and I asked myself how could such a liberal advocate of human rights support the suppression of the same. Hoping that tome Hayden article will only be the first in series of exposures that will unveil the ugly face of Zionism.

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By darby1936, July 19, 2006 at 8:16 pm Link to this comment
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The House was having a debate tonight on a resolution condemning Hezzbollah. Much of the resolution needed saying but it was so one sided in condemning Hezzbollah and giving Isreal a pass in the destruction of Lebannon. I fear a resolution is a hop, step, and a jump to the U.S. invading Iran, Syria or both. Folks like Newt are crying WW III. And theres bi-partisan support. The support will evaporate when America finds itself in a sure nuff quagmire with the attendent loss of life and treasure, $200 a barrel oil, and a world wide depression.

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By Gregory Wonderwheel, July 19, 2006 at 8:13 pm Link to this comment
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Thank you Tom Hayden.  Well spoken.  This conflict would see its end soon if the USA were to require a resolution by stopping supporting the occupation and the illegal collective punishment of civilian populations in Palestine and Lebanon.

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By Mark, July 19, 2006 at 7:57 pm Link to this comment
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Phillip Silvers writes: “You know they’re going to get you for this…that’s how it works….”

Lord yes. Isn’t it amazing how Michael Moore, after his smearing by the war party, disappeared from our TVs, banished for supposed “hate speech” that was beyond the pale, yet Ann Coulter, whose murderous rants make Moore’s worst seem mild as milk, gets more exposure than ever.

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By BYSTANDER, July 19, 2006 at 7:03 pm Link to this comment
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1. Choose a land whose inhabitants have little or no means of defense.

2. Buy enough of the land to make a territorial claim appear legitimate to the U.N. (Hint: play on each U.N. member’s sense of collective guilt).

3. Take more of the land when you are forced to remove violent resistors. (Important: insure that any remaining means of legitimate defense are made unavailable to local inhabitants).

4. Portray any attempts at illegitimate defense as proof that local inhabitants are irrational and therefor not worthy of humane treatment.  (It may help here to use prejudicing terms like terrorist)

5. In the name of your nascent nation’s security, answer to any further violent opposition with militarized incursions into neighboring territories. (Note: don’t forget to annex any new land this process should yield)

repeat steps 4 and 5 as necessary

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By Allen, July 19, 2006 at 6:57 pm Link to this comment
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Unfortunately, regardless of who is right or wrong the issue is moot with so many innocent dying. But in the longer view, I am worried all this will only fuel longer range anti-Semitism. Jews everywhere will be included in a wave of feeling that stems mainly from extremists. speaking personally, I confess the image cast by the likes of Sharon & his clever tricks (Sabra & Sadilla) make it difficult to separate out the decent people. The notion in the Jewish leadership seems to be—-regarding Palestinians, et al, simply kill them all.

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By A. Z. Arrow, July 19, 2006 at 4:43 pm Link to this comment
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Israeli gangsters have launched a massive bombing and surprise attack on Lebanon as well as a tank and artillery infested reoccupation of Gaza. Hear this: the Israeli government is not an ally of the American people or of our best interests: and it’s endless wars of aggression undermine support for the United States world-wide. Bush lends his criminal endorsement to these acts and this will hurt our country in the future as it does today. It becomes obvious that the Israeli government desires conquest rather than peace, and to be a regional prison-guard rather than work for equality and “good neighborly” relations with Arab and Persian peoples. So, the Israeli (-it’s-not-a-democracy- but a theocratic, nationalistic and in the words of a neighbor “a racist” ) state, and witness,  as the Israeli gangsters act accordingly. The Israeli government seeks war with Syria and Iran and is willing to fight to the last drop of American blood much like the current situation in Iraq, with difference noted * 

By a sane yardstick, the 2000 plus Israelis that demonstrate in Tel-Aviv against the military assault on Lebanon by their government are friends of peace and they deserve support from our people.

Many Israeli officials and George Bush, especially, suffer from a grand self-delusion that was blatantly propagated by Ariel Sharon a few years ago:

“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”  —Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, on October 3, 2001 (IAP News)

What fucking hubris! 

This means that the Bush doctrine makes our country into a bunch of disrespected suckers.

So I object! And along with the Israeli demonstrators for peace I voice my protest to the murder of Lebanese and Palestinian civilians by the Israeli military. All forms of terrorism are objectionable. But this air-powered systematic bombing is the worst type of terrorism.

I object because I keep my ear to the earth -on American soil.  The sounds I hear warn of great chaos, civil wars and the growth of anarchy in the Mid-East, and, possibly, 
a threat of danger to our county due to this administration’s biased approach to foreign policy.  The Israel government bombs Lebanon and invades Gaza. But they are headed for “the fall of the arrogant” and, if that isn’t enough, they don’t even see it coming, they are incapable, and in their blinded aggressive arrogance cannot envision the blowback headed their way.  And, further, while Israel saws off the limb it sits on, new political and military alliances are coming into being -like BRICKS and the recent China, Russia, Iran trade-energy-military pact, and the Bolivarian revolution. 

Bush is to blame.

American public opinion, formerly marked by uncritical support, has already shifted.

Further, the time is at hand to demand that our Vermont delegation work to bring an end to $20 billion a year that US taxpayers donate to Israel for war toys and for their implementation of inhuman policies of walled-incarceration, “targeted assassination,”  kidnapped parliamentarians, systematic slaughter, and their slow-motion genocide of the Palestinian people.

The root cause of terrorism is, as always in human history, state terrorism, that is the terrorism manifest in war, occupation, and self inflated arrogance

~A. Z. Arrow

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By M Henri Day, July 19, 2006 at 2:57 pm Link to this comment
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Shakespeare, with his acute sensitivity to the human condition, described the course run by Israel and its present state with these prophectic words :

For sweetest things turn sourest by their deeds;
Lilies that fester, smell far worse than weeds.

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By Phillip Silvers, July 19, 2006 at 2:31 pm Link to this comment
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Wow, Tom!
This takes an immense amount of courage, You know they’re going to get you for this…that’s how it works. You’re the latest in a string of liberal suicide bombers. Yes, I know in your heart you are much, much more than a liberal. This is the Tom I love, I almost cried. Those criticizing: don’t engage in silly presentism. The present is bad enough, Walt and Mearsheimer are taking it from all sides. If Tom had stood up during the first Intifada he would have been beaten to a bloody pulp, with very little means to protect himself. The times really are changing.

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By HG, July 19, 2006 at 1:52 pm Link to this comment
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Dear Tom, It is refreshing and reassuring to read this.  Thank you for your clarity and honesty on the subject, especially from your experienced perspective.  We can only hope that more Americans will educate themselves, so that we might move forward and not repeat history’s painful errors.

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By Ed, July 19, 2006 at 1:38 pm Link to this comment
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I have been saying for years that the solution is to bring every citizen of Israel to the United States and give them $1 million at entry on the condition that they stay within our borders.  It would be cheaper in the short run and long run, and the immigrants would have complete freedom of religion.  We only talking about 3 or 4 million people who would be easy to absorb and would add to our intellectual and creative capacity.


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By Mike, July 19, 2006 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment
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Thanks so much for your courage to admit past mistakes.  We can only hope there are leaders who can now take a principled stand for justice and peace in the Middle East, and oppose the extremism of the “Israel Lobby”.  For the sake of the children of the Middle East, we must Stop AIPAC!

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By Mark, July 19, 2006 at 12:36 pm Link to this comment
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Well, gee. What took you so long? I’m sorry, but I find it hard to forgive someone with your fame and credibility as a liberal activist for only now, when it’s probably too late, coming clean about the dangerousness of America’s blind idoloization of Israel, and the ruthlessness of those who enforce it politically. You might have made a difference once. But now, you probably can’t. This is really such a tragedy. Very, very sad.

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By jeff gershoff, July 19, 2006 at 11:46 am Link to this comment
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For the first time, maybe the only time, in my memory I find myself really in conflict with Tom’s analysis and his implied but not stated position.

What has happened to the fundamental issue here:  Hezbolah and Hamas, yes, backed by Syria and Iran, will not relent until Israel exists no more and jews are driven from the Middle East leaving it as some kind of Arab, Islamic paradise.  No one gave a rats ass about the Palestinians when their “home land” was squalor, flies, and dirt.  Israel turned it into a garden and now everyone demands Palestine for the Palestinians.

Let Hamas and Hezbolah recognize Israels right to exist and there can be peace.  Let them keep strapping explosives to themselves and killing women and children, let them keep lobbing missles into Israel and Israel will continue doing what they are doing until one of them cannot get up off the canvas anymore.

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By jb, July 19, 2006 at 11:44 am Link to this comment
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An interesting personal account, for which much thanks.

A consortium of world powers needs to take both sides into a quiet room and read the riot act to them. The threat of withdrawal of US aid, for example, would give them plenty to think about.



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By c woof, July 19, 2006 at 11:22 am Link to this comment
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I think the actions of this administration speak for themselves: Israel, by some bbc accounts, has been tacitly given a week to do what it wants, which I can only take to mean that the tacit alliance you speak of has already taken place.

This destruction of Lebanon is unconscionable.

In this situation, I can only say of Israel, “Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

Israel is like the young, spoiled, trust-fund child whose wealthy parents have died and left enough money for the child to do whatever it wants, but no guidence as to how to use that money and the child, being given power before understanding, has in effect become a wild-child with no concern with anything or anyone else except itself, and so when threatened, like a child smashing ants and spiders, it deals with the world.
Eventually children grow up or face adult supervision. Until that day arrives for Israel, I weep for its soul and for the lives of everyone it touches. Countries cannot exist soley by threat anymore than people can, who expect to live in peace and prosperity. If all you do is threaten your neighbors, who do you trade with?
Karma exists; you reep what you sow; those that live by the sword die by the sword—how many hundreds of aphorisms apply? The wisdom of the ages is not the wisdom of the ages without reason.

As for Iraq, a quagmire before we invaded, I’ve been of the opinion that if we left, it would become a bloodbath. With 3000 dead in June alone, it’s a bloodbath now. If we leave, will it be worse? Are we helping some survive, or helping those doing the killing? I personally see mud and have not enough wisdom to know which is worse. I do know both are inexcusable and I hold this administration accountable, along with its cronies for the situation. I can only guess at how much money they’re making from arms sales and support, overtly or covertly. I wonder if it will be enough for the lawyers they will inevitably need after the elections push them out.

I agree congressional denial of funds is the first step, but who will step up to the plate?

As for when this latest “round” started, I believe it started when Hamas won its surprising victory in the elections and the US and Israel both yelled “BAD DOG!!!” And immediately cut off the Palestinians’ funds, (money belonging to the Palestinians) thus not only abrogating their responsibilities as custodians of those funds (among other things), but declaring war on Gaza for not electing “approved people”, without giving Hamas the chance to fail on its own, but instead guaranteeing its failure by definition. And the first Israeli soldier wasn’t caught until after the family was killed by the shelling on the beach…yada yada yada….

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By tom cruise, July 19, 2006 at 11:14 am Link to this comment
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Mr. Hayden, thanks for your views. Though, I fear your current opinions are now moreso derived from a sense of guilt over past mistakes and not a clear-eyed view of the present scenario, which is different.
Ariel Sharon is not Ohlmert, Lebanon is no longer a country in civil war, the aims of the Israeli fight are transparent: remove the Hamas threat from its border. A legitimate threat recognized in UN resolution.
I profoundly disagree that Israel will not accept a Palestinean state on its border, they are on record as accepting that and there is more support than ever for that within Israel. Israel physically uprooting Jewish settlements in Gaza was no minor feat—why not stop trying to be “PC” with your left friends and instead give credit where its due. Even the late Edward Said recognized that the Palestinean leadership was corrupt and wrong-headed. Whats needed is a two-state solution. But for that to happen, its moreso up to Palestineans choosing better leadership that does not allow its citizens to suit up child suicide bombers and lob rockets over the border at Israeli villages as sport. Israelis want a geuinue peace, not just an end to the Palestinean occupation. Surely, peace should be the goal and not just an end to occupation? So far, its not exactly clear an end to the occupation is the only route to peace. That is naive. It ignores the well-stated, and oft-stated, intentions of Hezbollah and Hamas and company to drive the Jews to the sea. I really can not understand how supposedly peace-loving leftist such as yourself look the other way at the hate and violence spewing from the Islamo-fascist terrorists controlling today’s Palestine.

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By marcia herman, July 19, 2006 at 11:06 am Link to this comment
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Tom, the problem with all rational thinking is that the entire middle east will celebrate when they, collectively, destroy Israel. Israel is the only country that really wants peace—its people are educated and successful—its leaders understand that peace will be the greatest accomplishment of all.  Sadly, the other people in the region, and their leaders, have only one goal—take over Israel,or at the very least, make the Israeli lives miserable and unsafe. It is pretty hard to be even-handed in this environment.
Hope you are well.  Marcia Herman

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By Antoinette, July 19, 2006 at 11:04 am Link to this comment
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Israel has subjected the Palistinians to 60 Years of suffering under occupation….

10 years for each of the 6 years that the Jews suffered under the Hitler regime.

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By Mignon, July 19, 2006 at 10:02 am Link to this comment
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Tom, Thank you for telling the truth about the quagmire of torn loyalties you found yourself in in the early ‘80s.  Around the same time, having only the sketchiest understanding of the Israel-Palestine issue and history, I remember walking on Santa Monica Boulevard one day with a colleague of ours, Sam Hurst, and me saying something like, “Given Israel’s own history of suffering through displacement, how can its conscience allow itself to plunge the Palestinian people into the same kind of suffering by displacement?”  Sam simply nodded.  This fundamental question has remained with me all these many years.

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By c woof, July 19, 2006 at 6:33 am Link to this comment
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I think the actions of this administration speak for themselves: Israel, by some bbc accounts, has been tacitly given a week to do what it wants, which I can only take to mean that the tacit alliance you speak of has already taken place.

This destruction of Lebanon is unconscionable.

In this situation, I can only say of Israel, “Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

Israel is like the young, spoiled, trust-fund child whose wealthy parents have died and left enough money for the child to do whatever it wants, but no guidence as to how to use that money and the child, being given power before understanding, has in effect become a wild-child with no concern with anything or anyone else except itself, and so when threatened, like a child smashing ants and spiders, it deals with the world.
Eventually children grow up or face adult supervision. Until that day arrives for Israel, I weep for its soul and for the lives of everyone it touches. Countries cannot exist soley by threat anymore than people can, who expect to live in peace and prosperity. If all you do is threaten your neighbors, who do you trade with?
Karma exists; you reap what you sow; those that live by the sword die by the sword—how many hundreds of aphorisms apply? The wisdom of the ages is not the wisdom of the ages without reason.

As for Iraq, a quagmire before we invaded, I’ve been of the opinion that if we left, it would become a bloodbath. With 3000 dead in June alone, it’s a bloodbath now. If we leave, will it be worse? Are we helping some survive, or helping those doing the killing? I personally see mud and have not enough wisdom to know which is worse. I do know both are inexcusable and I hold this administration accountable, along with its cronies, for the situation. I can only guess at how much money they’re making from arms sales and support, overtly or covertly. I wonder if it will be enough for the lawyers they will inevitably need after the elections push them out.

I agree congressional denial of funds is the first step, but who will step up to the plate?

As for when this latest “round” started, I believe it started when Hamas won its surprising victory in the elections and the US and Israel both yelled “BAD DOG!!!” And immediately cut off the Palestinians’ funds, (money belonging to the Palestinians), thus not only abrogating their responsibilities as custodians of those funds (among other things), but declaring war on Gaza for not electing “approved people,” without giving Hamas the chance to fail on its own, but instead guaranteeing its failure by definition. And the first Israeli soldier wasn’t caught until after the family was killed by the shelling on the beach…yada yada yada….

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By Herman, July 19, 2006 at 1:28 am Link to this comment
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Let’s see; is Israel really afraid of its neighbors or is it trying to dominate the Middle East and run roughshod over everybody? Based on the history of the Jews over the decades and the attempt to wipe Israel off the map I believe there is a real ingrained fear in the Jewish population and in the government of Israel.  “Be nice, don’t fight ” is a slogan that has led to the near annihilation of the Jews and of Israel.                       
While the rise of Hamas and Hezbollah may have been triggered by the continued occupation of land Israel won in its wars with the Arab countries it doesn’t mean Israel doesn’t continue to fear its neighbors and the two terrorist groups. Instead of the Jews feeling like victims, the Palestinians now do and their pride and dignity are at stake.                                             
I see the conflict as Israel’s continued fear of annihilation vs the pride and dignity of the Islamic people. When threat to one’s life is up against threat to one’s dignity which one wins out?  The psychological immune system of both sides are involved. Neither side, unfortunately, seems to understand what they are up against.

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By Jack, July 19, 2006 at 1:10 am Link to this comment
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Thanks, Tom, for an awesome opinion piece. I’m a little less pessimistic than you because I don’t think the American people will be suckered into the latest round of neoconservative manipulation. Yeah, most Americans support Israel, but they also don’t want our troops dying for it. Your opinion piece is so important and needs to be emailed to everybody’s family and friends. PEACE - Jack

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By d52boy, July 18, 2006 at 11:51 pm Link to this comment
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Thanks, Tom, for speaking sense.

I fear, however, that the boulder is already rolling down the hill and the best anyone can do is try to get out of the way.

Nothing good will come of renewed conflict between Israel and its neighbours.

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By Elaine Meinel Supkis, July 18, 2006 at 7:54 pm Link to this comment
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My blog has been running cartoons about Miz Liberty and how she is turning into a fascist hag thanks to the neo cons and the war machine we are running in the Middle East.

Good barking grief.  Aside from Bush being an undisciplined monkey running amock at world forums, we are paying the Israelis to BOMB AMERICAN AND CANADIAN CITIZENS!!!!

Killing them.  And if one wants to escape, one has to pay cash or a check and if they have neither, they get to die!!!!

I am royally pissed off that our entire diplomatic and government systems are set to do whatever Israel wants including giving them MORE FUEL to drop bombs on AMERICANS in Lebenon, while not givving a penny or a fig about evacuating OUR CITIZENS.

Gads.  Arrest AIPAC.  Arrest Bush.

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