STUPID ANDREW, I AMERICAN CITIZN BEFORE STUPID ITIOT LIKE YOU EVEN BORN.  EVEN YOUR FATHER PROBLY STUPID CATHOLIC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.  GO GIVE MONEY TO THE POPE.  i AMAERICAN AND STAND UP FOR THE WORKING PEOPLE.  NOT BUSH LOVING BASTARD LIKE YOU.

The fact is that we have a uniformed, quasi-illiterate electorate. They are easily led or misled by rabble-rousers. Elected officials, in order to stay in office must respond appropriately.  The result - fences, vigilantes, troops, and chaos.

The latest noises from the president regarding securing our (southern) border conjure nightmarish scenarios - even worse than the current reality - which is pretty awful. The border will become Baghdad, another boondoggle for Bush and Cheney’s friends/masters in the defense industry and their tag along mercenary creeps.

The option of deporting the illegal immigrants in this country will never be seriously considered (except by right-fringe racists and pundits on the the left).

Although there are many good reasons against a mass deportation, the sole reason that they are here is the sole reason that the people who hold the real policy power in this country do not want them deported: the illegals are a cheap, easily exploitable work force.

Paid in cash, often at the end of every day (except for those who, at great risk, use phony IDs and SS#), no payroll taxes, no need to offer benefits (the public will take pick up the tab thier health-care and thier children’s education and public safety expenses they incur), no need to worry about labor laws with a pool of workers afraid to seek redress: in short, these are the kind of workers that the greedy managerial class in this country dreams about.

And it is the managerial and elite class’s wishes and dreams that our state and federal governments attend to with the utmost devotion (esp. in a matter such as this where there is a complete consensus among the people who matter). When the mainstream media reminds us, as they have, ad nauseum, over the past several weeks, they really mean good for the elite class.

This is why, when the whole issue resolves, the flow of workers from Central America will continue uninhibited, either through a unenforceable “guest worker” program (with the government and mass media heralding our magnanimous concern for the poor immigrants), or continuation of the status quo (granting temporary visas to all - working age, of course -applicants that will surely be over-stayed).
 
Pundits on the left would do well to stick to the basic, fundamental kernal of truth in all of thier discussions, avoid the straw men so that you will not, at the very least, confuse your readers even more than the mainstream media does.

El país se va a transformar por una ola de hispanicazión.  El gordito Carlitos, asesor del don Jorge Dobleve, entiende eso muy bien.  Mejor anticiparlo que cerrarse los ojos.  El Partido de Lincoln se convertirá en el de Juárez.

Los gringos nos robaron la tierra en 1846 y es hora buena para recuperarla.  Será una asimilación a revés.  Tarde o temprano reivindaremos nuestros derechos: trabajo, voto, alimento, salud y educación.  Y debemos defender nuestro idioma como medula de nuestra cultura e identidad.

Unas cuantas tropas en la frontera no nos deben preocupar.  Más bien ilustra la hipocresía e inutilidad de las medidas.  Los migrantes humildes reconquistarán lo que Santa Ana perdió a Taylor y Scott.  Y con cada nuevo parto poblaremos las brigadas de la victoria.

La fuerza definitiva no es militar sino económica.  Los empresarios gringos adoran nuestras manos baratas y somisas.  Por unas cuantas décadas sí tendremos que aguantar esta humilación, pero saquémonos ventaja de esa ciega adicción a nuestro trabajo para salir delante.  Nuestro predominio demogrífico va a asegurar, tarde o temprano, el triunfo.  Los jóvenes que cruzan, aguantan los asaltos e labran por el futuro serán invencibles y se convirtirán en los campeones de de la raza.  Estos bisnietos de los Niños Héroes vencerán sobre cualquier prejuicio, arma o fuerza.

Bush is a lame duck. Everybody knows this, both inside and out of the GOP. The Republican Party, for the last thirty years, has staked its cliam to power by running against “The Washington elite.”

Now, with control of all three branches of the federal government, with a majority in the US House for 12 years, Republicans are “The Washington elite.”

However, by opposing President Bush and the US Senate Republican leadership’s immigration reform legislation, that features a guest workers program and provisions for citizenship for undocumented workers already living in this country, House Republicans appear as if, once again, they are running against “the Washington elite.” Chances of a compromise between the Senate bill and the House version, which focuses more on punishing illegal aliens with weak sanctions on those who hire them, will not be reached by the end of the current Congressional session.

It’s no coincidence that the “issue” of “immigration reform” came up in mid-December of last year, following a series of Republican debacles, missteps and Iraq. There has been a growing stream of immigrants, both legal and not, ever since President Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law in 1994, the same year Republicans took control of the US House.

The Democratic issue, a Republican culture of corruption, may not play in Peoria, because an incumbent GOP US Representative will have to have direct ties to Jack Abramoff, et. al., to make the charge stick. As Tip O’Neill observed, once the voter gets in the voting booth, all politics are local; and the influx of brown-skinned laborers, maids and busboys into rural, mostly Northern European-heritage, middle America is very, very local.

House Republicans are betting on the almost inherent racism of Americans, especially white middle-class Americans, who benefit the most from low-wage illegal labor, and the old “outside-the-Beltway” image, the GOP has cultived over many years, to retain the majority in Congress.

It is merely another in a long line of cynical election year ploys by the Republican leadership to gain and maintain political power. If House Republicans succeed in retaining the majority, the issue of immigration reform will, like over-turning Roe v. Wade, banning “gay marriage and a host of other “cultural” issues designed to rally the GOP base, will quietly be forgotten. Any failure to pass the Republican House’s draconian immigration reform bill shall be blamed on “liberals” in Congress. Then nothing will be done or said until illegal immigrants once again rear their ugly heads in ‘08.

Joe,
When Bush came into office, his only friend in the whole wide world was Vincente Fox.  If memory serves me correctly, Bush, before becoming president, had never been out of the US, except for a trip or two to Tiajuana, and his first trip as pres was to his friend and amigo Vincente Fox.  No other respectable leader would have him!  It was there and then that a deal was made to have bush look the other way as Fox got rid of his undesirables.  Bush so desparately needed an ally that he would have agreed to anything.  Bush figured it was a great deal for america, or the fascist america that he envisioned, look at all the cheap labor, the corporations and golf clubs all across america will love him!  Hey it was a win win for bush.  Fox found these people a burden, our corporations needed cheap laborers, another blow to the unions and middle class.  After all, if the middle class cannot figure out how to make a living by gambling on the internets or buying stocks, then they deserve what they get.  Right?  Now thanks to people like Lou Dobbs, america is slowly waking up.  Legislation that has a loop hole so big it will allow perhaps 200 million more immigrants into the country in 10 years has got to be exposed.  Get involved america, do not believe anything the bush administration tells you.

Many have blamed the problem on Americans, and there are Americans to blame. Has anyone considered the real source for the problem, Presidente Vincente Fox? He is responsible for conditions in his country, just as Bush is responsible for this country. No one seems to mention his name. It is true that America should be a country of legal immigrants. We should not be the dumping point for another countries irresponsible government. Being a dumping point only makes the other country’s problems worse because it allows the issue(s) to be avoided. As the problems grow worse the immigration problem grows worse. America may be a sponge, but eventually a sponge can only hold so much. We can not hold the entire world. Other countries need to be responsible for themselves, especially democracies. If the United States has learned to become prosperous, then we can make suggestions. Microcapital loans may be used to help the poor start businesses. Countries that have escalating population growths may be helped with birth control, and women’s health issues, so resources are not stretched thin. Offer safety net suggestions for the poor like Social Security. Encourage policies that maintain a growing middle class for economic and political stability. These are solutions that have worked.

My family’s bin having trouble with immigrants ever since we came to this country!

Severio Nesich doesn’t sound like an American name to me. I think we should have the INS look into your National origin. Maybe we can ship you to Mexico until we resolve the matter. Maybe we should lose your file and let you rot there. One less bigoted Nativist to worry about. I hope “ytake” my advice and lighten up. P.S. for someone supposedly so all American you sure don’t speak very good English.

joe,
unfortunately many on the left want to try to make this a republican versus democrat issue.  there are a great many of democrats who do not support illegal immigration.  actually i believe there are more who do not support it than those who do.  for the media to try to portray we do is misleading and wrong.  we strongly support immigration but it must be done legally.  secondly, this country can not support giving amnesty for the numbers of immigrants who are here illegally.  if you include five of their immediate family members you have escalated the numbers up to 70 or or 80 million.  the social fabric of this country can not withstand this burden.  there is a point when logical decisions must be made for the better of the country.  those who support amnesty for 10 to 20 million illegal immigrants are being dishonest in their discourse not to present the entire and obvious truth of there decisions.  i do not hear you mentioning what will the middle and lower class american do when we add all these people to those competing for service jobs.  you already have people competing with their gradnparents for low paying jobs.  there are NO guarantees that they will continue to pick fruit , work in meat houses and only do the jobs folks keep saying no americans will do.  you give them legal status and many will soon expect to compete with all americans for job americans want (and they should if a U.S. citizen..they should attempt to raise the standard of their lives).  we are on the verge of making truly idiotic choices that will destroy this nation. 

in additon, if they came from a mexico with all its poverty they probably don’t care if they destroy the united states standard of living as it could not be as bad as what they had in mexico.  i expect that thinking from a poor migrant with little hope but i do not expect americans to be so willing to destroy this great nation by such illogical and moronic choices.  americans do not support these choices and the media owes a responsibility to accurately reflect their chois even if are legislators do not.  we need to work with mexico to improve it’s own country and their curroption before annexing all of its problems curruption and poverty here.

finally, if our legislators do push amnesty down our throughts i will be voting them all out regardless of being a democrat or republican including my representatives for illinois, dick durbin as well as OBAMA. 

where are the demands for mexico to take care of its own?

is one solution to the illegal women who come in this country to have a baby, and get the right to the citizenship, and all the gravy come with it.  i hope the politician listen and do my subgestion. to all illegal womens who come here to have their baby , should be stop, by changing the lAW, WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR BABY HERE, THEY MUST GO BACK HOME INMMIDIATLY BACK HOME, AND TELL THEM YOU CHILD IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN UNTIL HE IS 18 YEAR OLD,, HE CAN CLAIM IT IN THE AMERICAN EMBASSY IN MEXICO OR ANY COUNTRY THEY BELONG,
THIS WILL STOP THEM FOR SURE, AND THEY MUST PAY FOR THE MEDICAL SERVICES, AND ALL NEEDS.I HOPE THE POLITICIAN YTAKE MY ADVICE, WILL WORK.