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David Muhammad: The Truthdig InterviewPosted on Apr 3, 2006
By Sheerly Avni On March 6, 2006, just one day after the hip-hop group Three 6 Mafia took home an Academy Award for its song “It’s Hard Out There for a Pimp,” David Muhammad, a respected black activist and youth mentor in Oakland, Calif., published a short Op-Ed piece on an multi-ethnic wire service in which he blamed some of rap’s biggest stars for promoting what he called a “culture of death” among young Americans. In the essay, Muhammad called out the usual suspects: scantily clad women in rap videos; songs that glorify the gangster lifestyle; the thuggish personas of the rappers themselves. But he took the standard critique much further, suggesting that corporate hip-hop culture is helping kill black teenagers. He reserved special ire for the multibillion-dollar hip-hop industry. “The culture,” he wrote, “has denigrated into an embarrassing bastion of filth—promoting violence, drugs, irresponsible sex, excessive materialism, and delinquent behavior.” Bastion of filth? These are strong words, and they sound like what one would hear from a hate-sputtering evangelical on late-night TV, not a progressive Bay Area youth mentor like Muhammad. On the other hand, as of this writing, there have been 35 homicides in the city of Oakland in 2006, more than twice the number by the same time last year. And, increasingly, the violence does not even seem based on the turf vendettas or drug market disputes to which the beleaguered city has grown accustomed in the 20 years following a devastating crack epidemic. Rather, the violence seems random and senseless, a nightmarish vision out of “A Clockwork Orange”—rampaging groups of kids shattering a block’s worth of automobile windows for the fun of it, shootings of near-strangers erupting over intoxicated arguments, fights and gunshots erupting at late-night parties. Right now, the link between violence and music in Oakland and the surrounding Bay Area seems particularly manifest. Rappers native to that locale, notably B-Legit, the recently deceased Mac Dre, and current national chart topper E-40, are considered some of “realest” rappers in the country—which, according to the dubious ethics of hip-hop culture, means that most of their glorifications of pimping, illegal drug dealing, gang rivalries and street shootings reflect direct criminal experience. The authenticity of Bay Area rappers has never been questioned, but American hip-hop culture’s romanticization of that authenticity deserves a closer look, especially now as Bay Area rap moves to the top of the national charts.
Of course, the crimes and other problems plaguing Oakland are far from an isolated crisis. In nearly every urban center in the country, violent crimes are on the rise, as are unemployment and incarceration rates among black men and new cases of AIDS among black women. Add increasingly violent and sexually explicit lyrics in a musical genre that is now thoroughly mainstream, and the term “culture of death” seems more like an accurate description than an alarmist code word. With Muhammad, however, it’s a different story; all he has to do is show up. Handsome, well-spoken, straight-backed and remarkably even tempered, Muhammad commands immediate respect from the counselors, the staff and even the most rebellious youth—not only because he himself was raised on and by the Oakland streets but also because of his calm demeanor. I have never seen him lose his cool, even though more than once he was late for workshops because he’d been attending the funeral of one of the young men he had mentored or comforting one of their grieving grandmothers. He is also rather private: Many of the details of his own life story—one which included being a detainee in the facility where he now leads discussions every Tuesday—were news to me. I did not know until he was filling me in on his background after we wrapped up the interview, for example, that he was raised by a single mother in Oakland; that he had one older brother who was a crack addict, another who was a crack dealer, and that he himself began selling drugs when he was barely into his teens. Nor did I know that after several stints in juvie, and six months homeless, he was taken in by the grandmother of a close friend, or that what finally turned him around was the intervention of a demanding football coach, a local youth group, and mostly, the role model he found in the teacher of his black studies class. In other words, Muhammad is not just a conservative crank who lives in fear of dirty words. When he calls out negative influences in his community, he’s speaking from a combined personal and professional authority very few of us can match. I asked him to speak with Truthdig about what led him to turn against the music he loves—more than once I’ve heard the bass booming out of his van as he peeled out of the Juvenile Hall parking lot—and he readily agreed, scheduling me between appointments. In his typical overextended style, he called me from the road, between a meeting with a judge, whom he was encouraging to focus more on diversion than on incarceration, and a speaking engagement with a group of inmates in a prison in Vacaville, Calif. In his van there were three young men, clients of his mentoring program, whom he was shuttling from work to home. Occasionally Muhammad would stop to ask their help when trying to remember a specific lyric—as he explained why, after 33 years, he decided to take a stand denouncing the very music that he grew up on. Sheerly Avni : What do you mean when you say “culture of death”? David Muhammad: Wait, let me just start by saying this: As I’ve talked about my article, both on the radio and through e-mails, I have had to continually remind people that my perspective is not just hearing it and responding to what I hear, but seeing the influence of the music on the young people I work with. I can see that they are literally part of a culture of death - there is drug abuse, alcohol consumption, delinquent behavior, an addiction to money, violence, reckless behavior. These youth come into my office after time spent in Juvenile Hall or at the California Youth Authority, and they talk about “Thizzing” -taking Ecstasy, usually in combination with other drugs, like “purp” (weed) and taking ‘bo’ (Robitussin with codeine). They talk about whip riding, which means driving while not actually sitting in the car. And, of course, they talk about going dumb, going stupid, which usually means exactly that.
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By Stephen, April 24, 2007 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment
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I just attended a talk led by David Muhammad, and am now wondering how “edited” the above interview was. The gentleman who spoke tonight was rambling, bordering on incoherent. At one point in a discussion on the role of black leaders on college campuses he held up pictures that he insisted proved that martians (yep, from Mars) inspired the sphinx and taught egyptians to build wooden helicopters! I wish I could say I was kidding.
Report thisI could imagine that something as thoughtful as the interview on this website could be pieced together from his ramblings, but only with careful editing bordering on fiction writing. So again, I would be interested to hear a reply or see a discussion concerning the editing process employed on this site.
By big AL, October 13, 2006 at 11:55 am Link to this comment
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hiphop,the music I adored as a youth,has unfortunately become a tool of the libcoms(liberal/communists)its purpose is to destroy the youth through self-destruction,and drive them to the point where they think blind rebeliousness to everything orderly and good is an honorable thing,against the “authority”.more brainwashing…a shame that such a beautiful artform has been hijacked,showing all Black males as gangsters and pimps,drunk off “petron”,high on E,and fucking all their"biatches"further degrading women.how sad it is.
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Pretty much nothing seems important. Pretty much nothing noteworthy happening these days, but such is life. Not much on my mind lately. I’ve basically been doing nothing. I just don’t have anything to say lately. I’ve just been letting everything happen without me these days.
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By Premie Zereuwa, August 8, 2006 at 8:20 pm Link to this comment
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Your piece is quit interesting though, suffering in the prison of another country for a piece is work is still questionable. i believe nigeria is our mother land which no one can deny that fact. you are a hero in the eyes of the world and i believe Nigerians are proude of you, It is very necessary that one is above human’s destruction in a way of receiving the DIVINE KNOWLEDGE OF THE LIVING PERFECT MASTER (SATGURU MAHARAJ JI) WHICH WILL TAKE YOU AWAY FROM EVERY PROBLEM IN THE PRESENT AND FUTURE. As a native of the land our ancestors always protect his children from every form of danger and i must to say here that it is not only that you are imprison for the piece of the work published but always for racial,political,social and economic reason but with Divine knowleedge one is free forever.
I am from the Eastern part of Nigeria and experienced the same too during the Abacha Coup and recieving the Divine Knowledge today is a total freedom. As a champion you are in the eyes of the world you needed a guide and protection of the real creator.
I would want to know more about you and don’t hestate to ask me any question.
Thanks
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By SATGURU MAHARAJ JI, August 8, 2006 at 7:58 pm Link to this comment
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Sent: 2006 08 08
Dearest David,
ITS ABSOLUTELY INSPUTABLE THAT THE BLACKS ARE HIGHLY BEEN REGARDED AS NOT PART OF THIS WORLD BUT UNKNOW TO ANYONE THAT “BLACK IS THE FOUNDATION OF ALL CREATION” AND FOR SOMEONE SUGGESTING THE TERMINATION OF UNBORN BABY’S PREGNACY IS SO EVIL AND PART OF THE HATREDNESS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AS ONE OF THE CONTRIBUTOR QUOTED AS AN ACT OF REDUCING THE CRIME. AS THE GODMAN (SATGURU MAHARAJ JI) THE LIVING PERFECT MASTER OF THIS TIME,THAT HAS COME TO SAVE MAN FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT, MAN IS NOT MEANT TO DIE AS IT WAS AT THE BEGGINING…( THE TIME OF OUR ANCESTORS) BUT TODAY RELIGION HAS TURN EVERYTHING UPSIDE DOWN MAKING US TO BELIEVE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY OUT. I REVIEW LIGHT (DIVINE KNOWLEDGE) THAT MAKES ONE IMORTAL AND GIVE 100% GUARANTEED SAFETY ON LAND,SEA AND AIR. YOU SO MUCH INSPIRED ME AND I WOULD WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU IN DETAILS AND FEEL FREE TO ASK ME ANY QUESTION.
THANKS
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By Dereca Blackmon, April 19, 2006 at 3:16 am Link to this comment
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(please add this to my last post)
As to what’s different about music today - 3 things: 1) Headphones - most parents are unaware of what their children are listening to. My mom came in my room and took my Prince record. 2) Crack - Half of the kids I work with are missing at least 1 parent due to drug use or trafficking 3)The Prison Industrial Complex - when Black teenagers engage in adolescent antics of hypheeism they don’t get a ride home from the police or a call to their parent, they get a criminal record. Finally, anyone who thinks ecstasy is a throwback to the 60’s summer of love hasn’t purchased it in an urban setting where it is rarely if ever pure MDMA.
Report thisBy Dereca Blackmon, April 19, 2006 at 3:04 am Link to this comment
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Thank you for taking a risk and publishing this excellent article. I had never heard of truthdig.com before but I know the life-changing work of David Muhammad and have seen very few media outlets that have been willing to tackle this heavy subject in such a thorough way. Hat’s off to you truthdig.com you’ve won my readership.
Report thisBy Captain America, April 14, 2006 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment
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My only objection to Mr. Muhammad’s interview is that an “explosion” of ecstasy use in young black men is a bad thing. From my own experience and those others have shared with me, ecstasy may well be the best thing for young black men and women. It is counter-intuitive to link ecstasy with any type of violence, they simply don’t mesh. A gangsta on ecstasy is much more likely to make sweet love to his gun than he is to shoot anyone with it! It’s effects are excitement, euphoria, a sense of well-being and connectedness to the world, as well as simply feeling like the name “ecstasy” implies. MDMA was used for decades as an anti-depressant before it ever found its street culture. It seems to me that much of young black america is in a deep state of depression, as they should be, what with all of the horrors of daily life Mr. Mohammad details. Of course there are dangers in taking any drug, but of all the drugs out there, ecstasy is far and away the least likely to lead to violence. Perhaps what America needs is a national take an e-bomb and get to know your neighbors day. Look at the rave scene, despite random violence, you have hundreds of thousands of ethnically diverse people getting together every weekend, enjoying themselves and each others company, taking ecstasy, and simply having fun…...Is that such a terrible thing? Would not our black community benefit from a little more fun, a little more acceptance, a little less depression, if only for a few hours?
Report thisBy Rahkyt, April 7, 2006 at 11:25 pm Link to this comment
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“The People crave War Music
Because the People are at War.”
War with each other? That’s an even worse interpretation of the ‘reality’ than the alternative, which was discussed in quite the informative fashion in this article.
Report thisBy Hawk, April 7, 2006 at 4:57 am Link to this comment
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It’s not the music alone it the Video’s that syncronized with the lyrics. Listening to Ragtime,Blues,Rock&Roll; and any music before the advancement of videos meant people listened with their ears not their eyes its different when an image is branded in the mind along with music beause then you can research that tactic back through history its called for lack of better words. ” Brainwashing ” I call it
” brandWashing “.
And I compare it to Nazism, the Grillz and other fashion pieces could be signs of the swazstika or any other icon for that matter.Sometime I even call it Hitler-Hop or Hip-Hop/Crissy the whore of babylons prostituting teen-age daughter and lastly.
The WORD was and is GOD so using the words of ones mouth to say some of these things are blasphemus and I guess the generation/culture in questions don’t believe they’ll be judged by the words they speak or that their was a GOD of their ancestorial slaves
Report thisBy dianome, April 6, 2006 at 8:50 am Link to this comment
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you know maybe if the program directors at radio stations would stop play’n this stuff (but it won’t) than it would go underground, and not so mainstream, maybe this would help to curve this new death system!
Report thisBy Dr. Susan Block, April 6, 2006 at 2:09 am Link to this comment
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Don’t blame the music.
Report thisDon’t blame the poetry.
Don’t blame art or even entertainment.
And don’t blame human sexuality. Don’t blame our desire for pleasure, for love, for touch, for *cum*
Blame the guns.
Blame the war.
Blame the Gang Leaders on the Street and in Washington.
Blame the culture that stole human beings and made them slaves.
Blame the Crusaders.
But don’t blame the Troubadors.
The People crave War Music
Because the People are at War.
By Victor, April 5, 2006 at 11:54 am Link to this comment
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I really enjoyed the article. I believe that the rappers are just as much to blame for damaging black culture as are the record companies. I mean after all they do write the lyrics. They are just money hungry and are willing to sacrifice our culture for greed.
Report thisBy Amber, April 5, 2006 at 6:36 am Link to this comment
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We all argue for freedom of speech, but what happens when that freedom is abused? Sure, music itself isn’t the problem - but when you take icons of the music industry, writing lyrics promoting drug abuse, violence, and misogyny, then you have a problem. Kudos to Mr. Muhammad for standing up and saying something, and to Sheerly for writing about it.
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Thanks to the readers for all your comments. One note: All of the programs David Muhammad is involved with are for both boys and girls, including The Beat Within. Indeed, one of the pieces we sampled in this piece was by a girl describing her own experience with “poppin’ pills”
However, the vast majority of incarcerated youth are still young males, and the majority of mainstream hip hop is still produced by men, and written from a male point of view.
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By benny, April 4, 2006 at 1:48 pm Link to this comment
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It’s too bad that only boys are getting this kind of attention from David and others. WHERE ARE THE WRITING PROGRAMS, JOBS, RIDES HOME AND MENTORS FOR GIRLS?
Report thisBy David, April 4, 2006 at 12:17 pm Link to this comment
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Great interview, but people have been linking violence to youth-oriented music for a century—starting with rag time, through blues, jazz, and, of course, through rock ‘n roll in all its permutations. And nobody has really found a link between music and violence. So, without challenging Mr. Muhammed’s ideas, I’d like to know how this time it’s different. Is is that those earlier music forms did not have lyrics denigrating women and extolling violence, while hip hop does? Or what?
Report thisBy webmacher, April 4, 2006 at 8:48 am Link to this comment
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“Calumny?”
Um, no, I think Mr. Muhammed summarized it accurately. The other stuff Bennett said was just disclaimers to make him sound less horrible (“impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do”)—but he circles back to his claim that if this was done, “your crime rate would go down.”
Take out the anguished disclaimers. You’re left with “But I do know that its true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you couldif that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down.” That’s pretty much the same as “if you abort black babies you can improve the crime rate.”
Report thisBy JP, April 4, 2006 at 6:02 am Link to this comment
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Thank you for posting this. We need to support uplifiting, creative African-American genres, jazz as an example. The best jazz musicians are African-American, and they should be proud.
The misogyny and violence of rap and hip-hop are not helping our country.
Report thisBy Toby, April 3, 2006 at 8:53 pm Link to this comment
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Great piece - but the Bennett line is highly misleading:
It is bad that someone as sensible as Mr Muhammad would repeat such a calumny.
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