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Taking On the Israel Lobby

Posted on Mar 27, 2006
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By Blair Golson

Two professors from Harvard and the University of Chicago have touched off a firestorm with their controversial report, published last week in the London Review of Books, which argues that the United States’ pro-Israel lobby has damaged America by pushing it to act in ways contrary to its strategic interests.

  • Check out a summary of the report.
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  • Read the report as published in the London Review of Books.
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  • Read the full report, submitted as a working paper at Harvard (.pdf file).
  • Reactions to the report are burning up the blogosphere and, increasingly, traditional media outlets. On balance, the report has more high-profile critics than it does defenders, and the criticism encompasses both the researchers’ conclusions (for overlooking major historical facts) as well as their methodology (the report was based solely on previously published news reports and contained no new original research). Still, there are those, even in the Israeli community, who feel the report is an important contribution to the issue.

    What follows is a sampling of those reactions:

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  • First off, Harvard removed its backing (and its logo) from the report.
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  • The Jewish weekly newspaper Forward reported that many Jewish organizations “are holding fire,” in terms of reacting to the report, “in order to avoid generating publicity for their critics ... while at the same time seeking indirect ways to rebut and discredit the scholars’ arguments.”
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  • Haaretz, a leading Israeli newspaper, wrote this in its editorial:
  • Even if the article involved an attempt to blame the Jews for developments that are unconnected to them, and even if the comments are rooted in increasing opposition to the war in Iraq and an attempt to search for hidden motives for what the writers see as an American foreign policy failure, it would be irresponsible to ignore the article’s serious and disturbing message…. The fact that Israelis view the United States’ support for and tremendous assistance to Israel as natural causes excess complacence, and it fails to take into account currents in public opinion that run deep and are liable to completely change American policy.

  • Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America:

  • [E]ven a cursory examination of The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy reveals that it is riddled with errors of fact, logic and omission, has inaccurate citations, displays extremely poor judgement regarding sources, and, contrary to basic scholarly standards, ignores previous serious work on the subject. The bottom line: virtually every word and argument is, or ought to be, in “serious dispute.”

  • Daniel Levy, an advisor in Israel’s prime minister’s Office, a member of the official Israeli negotiating team at the Oslo B and Taba talks and the lead Israeli drafter of the Geneva Initiative, also writing in Haaretz:

  • [It should] serve as a wake-up call, on both sides of the ocean…. Sadly, if predictably, response to the Harvard study has been characterized by a combination of the shrill and the smug. Avoidance of candid discussion might make good sense to the Lobby, but it is unlikely to either advance Israeli interests or the U.S.-Israel relationship.

  • The Washington Post has a nice roundup of opinions.

  • Harvard Law professor and staunch Israeli rights defender Alan Dershowitz tells the Jerusalem Post (which notes that Dershowitz is working on a paper refuting the claims of the study):

  • These are two serious scholars and you need to expose what they have done as ignorant propaganda ... the challenge is to find a single idea in the piece that does not already appear in hate websites. There is no scholarship here what so ever.

  • Veteran American presidential advisor David Gergen, writing in U.S. News & World Report:

  • Over the course of four tours in the White House, I never once saw a decision in the Oval Office to tilt U.S. foreign policy in favor of Israel at the expense of America’s interest. Other than Richard Nixon—who occasionally said terrible things about Jews, despite the number on his team—I can’t remember any president even talking about an Israeli lobby. Perhaps I have forgotten, but I can remember plenty of conversations about the power of the American gun lobby, environmentalists, evangelicals, small-business owners, and teachers unions.

  • Tom Segev, an Op-Ed writer in the Israeli paper Haaretz:

  • The essay is worthy of attention because of its timing, three years after the start of a war that is now being viewed as one of the greatest failures in U.S. history. It cannot be dismissed as anti-Semitic nonsense, nor should it be attributed to the conspiracy theories produced by Noam Chomsky and his disciples.

  • Columnist Chris Hitchens, writing in Slate:

  • Mearsheimer and Walt belong to that vapid school that essentially wishes that the war with jihadism had never started. Their wish is father to the thought that there must be some way, short of a fight, to get around this confrontation. Wishfulness has led them to seriously mischaracterize the origins of the problem and to produce an article that is redeemed from complete dullness and mediocrity only by being slightly but unmistakably smelly.

  • Noted Foreign Policy writer Daniel Drezner, in his blog:

  • Walt and Mearsheimer should not be criticized as anti-Semites, because that’s patently false. They should be criticized for doing piss-poor, monocausal social science.

    To repeat, the main empirical problems with the article are that:

    A) They fail to demonstrate that Israel is a net strategic liability;
    B) They ascribe U.S. foreign policy behavior almost exclusively to the activities of the “Israel Lobby”; and
    C) They omit consideration of contradictory policies and countervailing foreign policy lobbies.

  • The American Thinker, a generalist online magazine whose mission statement reads in part, “The right to exist, and the survival of the State of Israel are of great importance to us”:

  • Much as they try, this article will be unpersuasive in convincing Americans that our real national interest lies with cozying up with Saudi Arabia, and abandoning Israel. And much as they claim their approach is motivated only by the national interest, something uglier is at work here. When something walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck, usually it is a duck. Walt and Mearsheimer have decided to navigate the waters of the Israel-hating, Jew-hating conspiracy theorists.  There is a good reason for this. They seem comfortable in these waters.

  • Antiwar.com, a libertarian site:

  • For the first time in memory, the power of the Lobby has been challenged by two prominent academics: try as the Lobby’s activists might, they won’t succeed in smearing either Mearsheimer or Walt as neo-Nazis, nor will they be able to dismiss their concerns as the ravings of fringe characters. As far as the Lobby is concerned, the jig is up - and all I can say is, it’s about time.

  • James Taranto, writing in the Wall Street Journal’s OpinionJournal:

  • Walt and Mearsheimer’s method of analysis presumes Israel’s guilt. Every past or present Israeli transgression is evidence of its wickedness, whereas Arab ones, if they are acknowledged at all, are “understandable.” This approach paints a highly misleading picture. It is anti-Semitic in effect if not in intent.

  • Dore Gold, who served as Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations in 1997-1999, writing in the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, which he heads:

  • [T]heir analysis is not grounded in any careful investigation of declassified U.S. documents from the Departments of State or Defense.

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    By Colonel, April 14, 2006 at 4:49 pm Link to this comment
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    Re Comment #6384:  Raj correctly pinpoints the rational debate-killer as accusations of antisemitism. The term is classic propaganda. Through the ADL and others it has been condensed by repetition to only mean BAD,BAD,BAD, and there can be no defense. Indeed, you may notice that there is seldom any response by the accuser to any attempted defense. Only silence. As I said, classic propaganda. Tag someone with the epithet and the conditioned public automatically reacts like Pavlov’s salivating dogs.

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    By norman ravitch, April 12, 2006 at 1:43 pm Link to this comment
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    We long for the day when the Israel Lobby is no more consequential than the Finland Lobby!

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    By Frank - An American Patriot, April 7, 2006 at 11:52 pm Link to this comment
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    To Juanita - research is all I’ve been doing for 30 years and my head sometimes feels like exploding with facts. But I’m willing to be proven wrong.

    I purposely mentioned the Israeli-Arabs in my previous comments. You missed that.

    Why is Israel described as a “Jewish State” if that does not mean it is of the Jews, for the Jews and by the Jews? It is akin to the US officially describing itself, as a “Christian State.”

    In another twist to this Twilight Zone of a state… “It would not occur to the average English peaking observer to object to translating [the Hebrew word] ezrahut as “nationality” because “citizenship” and “nationality” are interchangeable terms in the United States, as well as in most democratic societies. In Israel, however, they are two separate and very different statuses. Citizenship (ezrahut) may be held by Arabs as well as Jews while nationality (le’um), which bestows significantly greater rights than citizenship, may be claimed by Jews alone.”

    “No [one version of] Israeli nationality applies to all citizens, as does a US nationality in the United States or French nationality in France, for example. In Israel, there is only a Jewish nationality. That non-Jews cannot qualify for nationality rights in the state of Israel was affirmed by the Supreme Court in 1972 in a statement that there is no Israeli nation separate from the Jewish people.”

    From: http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0190/9001020.htm

    These are Israeli values - not American values. The American taxpayer subsidizes these racist un-American values (to the tune of $105 billion since 1948) and the Israel lobby is dedicated to making sure that Joe Six Pack US taxpayer doesn’t figure it out.

    The Law of Return applies only to Jews, no other faith. If there is any other way to become an Israeli besides being Jewish and moving to Israel or being an indigenous person (and their descendents) caught up in the founding of the state that happened to stay in ’48 please let me know. Show me chapter and verse the language in Israeli law that unambiguously allows a Christian or a Hindu or any other faith to move to Israel and lawfully become a citizen without converting to Judaism or marrying a Jew and I will concede the point.

    Regarding Israeli-Arab members of parliament; that cannot be forbidden because these MP’s were/are Israeli citizens. Israeli as described above but Israeli. That’s the surrealistic mélange of Israel.

    As far as Mr. Hodges remark that England’s state religion is Anglicanism and Denmark’s Lutheran he is exactly correct but you don’t have to be a member of that religion to be a citizen of those countries. The two situations are not analogous except on the surface. Analogous to medieval Europe yes, but not the Europe of today.

    Regarding citizenship in Palestine the following clauses from the draft Constitution of Palestine. Illustrate my point. “Article (5) Arabic is the official language and Islam is the official religion in Palestine. Christianity and all other monotheistic religions are accorded sanctity and respect. The constitution guarantees equality in rights and duties to all citizens irrespective of their religious creed.” and “Article (19) All Palestinians are equal before the law. They enjoy civil and political rights and bear public duties without difference or discrimination, regardless of race, gender, color, religion, political opinion, or disability.”

    Even though the draft says that Islam is the official religion it goes out of its way to state “equality in rights” are guaranteed to all irrespective of creed. This is far from the two-class system in Israel.

    Case closed?

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    By juanita, April 5, 2006 at 9:44 pm Link to this comment
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    response to Comment #6364 by Frank - a so-called American Patriot on 4/03 at 1:04 pm—who said:

    “To Mr. Hodges - I can understand why you think Israel is a democracy. It does indeed have a free press. [...] Israel is a democracy as long as you are of one religion. “

    &

    “In the Palestinian territories you can be a Jew, a Muslim or a Christian (or any other religion for that matter) and be a full member of the body politic or a citizen if you will. It is a de facto circumstance that you cannot be a citizen in Israel unless you are a Jew.”

    This is patently false.  Jews are not welcome in the terrortories… simply false.  Nor is it true that you must be a Jew to be a citizen of Israel.  20% of Israel is Arab (thus mostly Muslim) and they have been elected to the Knesset.  While there was a crazy Jewish rabbi on Arafat’s payroll, that is about the extent of it.

    Do you not research your beliefs, or do you knowingly disseminate lies on the Internet?

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    By Mark Hodges, April 5, 2006 at 8:11 pm Link to this comment
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    Judaism is the official religion of Israel just as Anglicanism is the official state religion of England, Luthernanism is the official state religions of Denmark, Norway, Iceland and Finland and Buddhism is the official state religion of Thailand.

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    By aviationh8r, April 5, 2006 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment
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    I don’t support Israel out of any feelings of guilt over what’s happened to them.  I support Israel because while their interests may not be in our best interests, they’re far more in line with our interests than the interests/demands of most of the rest of the world.

    I also respect Israel & the Jewish faith.  I have some respect for Buddhism & Hinduism.  I have no respect for the Islamic faith, even though Muslims are certainly welcome to believe what they want to.

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    By Frank - an American Patriot, April 4, 2006 at 6:18 pm Link to this comment
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    Or the Wilcox-McCandlish Law of Online Discourse Evolution

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    By raj, April 4, 2006 at 5:30 am Link to this comment
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    Comment #6337 by Mark Hodges on 4/02 at 8:27 pm

    Israel is the ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!Get it through your thick anti-semitic skulls!!

    This is a joke, right?  Someone should propose a corollary to Godwin’s Law to the effect that the first person who screams “ANTI-SEMITIC” on an internet discussion board loses the argument.  It is fairly clear that the only reason to scream “ANTI-SEMITIC” is to shut down discussion. 

    When I see that in a post, I read no further.

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    By David Davis, April 4, 2006 at 4:49 am Link to this comment
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    It’s very unfortunate that a great country like the United States of America, with all its mighty power, accomplishments and people gets hijacked by this infamous interest group i.e. the Israeli Lobby.
    I strongly believe that this coerced policy will have serious implications on America for years to come; it certainly doesn’t serve the interests of American tax payers at all.
    The real issue here, is that when people hear such voices, they immediately cry out ”ANTI-SEMITISIM”, a term that is over used, much like a ghost to scare off people that care about American interests and peace in this world.
    I believe that those two scholars will be silenced by the usual dirty means, just like Senator Paul Findley, please refer to his book, they dare to speak out.
    I believe that it’s unacceptable to discriminate against Jews and that the atrocities that have been committed against them are also tragic; however, the world can’t go on eternally feeling guilty and paying for historical mistakes, after all so many nations have suffered too.

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    By Frank - An American Patriot, April 3, 2006 at 2:24 pm Link to this comment
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    To Mr. Hodges again: 

    Your claim that Israel was prepared to give “almost all of the occupied territories” to the Palestinians is not correct and is another of the prevailing myths surrounding this controversy. 1st of all, according to Palestinians the occupied territories are functionally all of Gaza, West Bank & what is now known as Israel. What was being discussed at Camp David II was the remaining 22% or the West Bank and Gaza. Who’s is doing the compromising here? If you don’t believe me refer to the paper by John J. Mearsheimer & Stephen M. Walt where they discuss in detail that this was not in fact the case.

    Or see this link
    http://www.gush-halom.org/media/barak_eng.swf

    What Barak offered was such a patchwork of land with the area being carved up into three main pieces intersected by IDF security roads and each of the three main sections were in turn carved up into even smaller sections by more security roads. Roads the Palestinians were not to cross except at certain bottleneck checkpoints, no different to what they are subject to today. This was not a win-win negotiation this was a win-lose in every sense of the word. Arafat felt he could not accept a solution that was not a solution but what was functionally no different from what already existed. Look it up - the information is out there. Just don’t quote AIPAC or CAMERA. These organizations are like trying to get the truth about Christianity from Jerry Falwell.

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    By Frank - an American Patriot, April 3, 2006 at 2:04 pm Link to this comment
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    To Mr. Hodges - I can understand why you think Israel is a democracy. It does indeed have a free press. Actually its press is freer in discussing this issue than our own. But that in and of itself does not mean it’s a democracy. Israel is a democracy as long as you are of one religion. That my friend, where we come from anyway, (I’m assuming you too are an American) is definitely not a democracy.

    Look it up - I did and found Israel has no constitution that explains all this. It has a “Basic Law” that conveniently sidesteps this most fundamental (pun intended) aspect of their government. The law doesn’t say you must be Jewish to be a citizen but that is the de facto effect of the collection of policies that make up the “Basic Law.”

    In the Palestinian territories you can be a Jew, a Muslim or a Christian (or any other religion for that matter) and be a full member of the body politic or a citizen if you will. It is a de facto circumstance that you cannot be a citizen in Israel unless you are a Jew. Likewise in Saudi Arabia you cannot be a citizen unless you are a Muslim. What about the Arabs living in Israel? Are they not citizens? Yes they are but only because they were the few who refused to take the bait and leave in ‘48. Israel had to make them citizens just for PR reasons if nothing else.

    This is why Israel is not a democracy - please rebut with facts if you have them. One could argue that Palestine is the only true democracy in the Middle East but the Israeli government won’t let them get it off the ground. I wonder why?

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    By Frank - An American Patriot, April 3, 2006 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment
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    Mudslinging about whether Jews or Muslins are trustworthy doesn’t get us anywhere - this is one of the most contentious issues on the planet. Name calling just exacerbates the situation. Only the facts can help us understand and they are out there if one wants to take the time to do the research.

    Not to brag but I was a Middle East studies major at a very well respected American university. In addition to that I grew up in Saudi Arabia and lived there in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s and 80’s and have been directly affected by this conflict. I lost friends in terrorist attacks led by Black September in the 70’s. I also know Palestinian and Jordanian families that were expelled from what was then the UN partitioned area of Palestine.

    That is not to say I know everything there is to know about this subject because frankly at several times in my life I became so disheartend by the lack of progress I stopped keeping up. Like during the 1982 invasion of Lebanon - that was a real winner, right? Really accomplished a lot didn’t it. That was self defense like invading Iraq was for the Americans. At a minimum the PLO was lobbing rockets over the border - we Americans don’t even have that excuse.

    No one in their right mind disputes the right to self defense but when a population is continually repressed, often violently, usually inhumanely it’s no surprise that they result to extreme tactics and violence in what *they consider* their own self defense. Witness the native Americans.

    The Arab nations have their own baggage to carry in this conflict having continually sold the Palestinians down the road and kept them bottled up in refugee camps. Most people do not know that one of the most horrific events in PLO history was at the hands of an Arab nation. “Black September” the most radical Marxist of the Palestinian guerrilla/terror organizations came into being when King Hussein of Jordan expelled the PLO from his country in September of 1970.

    The Palestinians have suffered at the hands of Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Iraq & Lebanon almost as much as at the hands of the Israelis. These countries have also shed blood in pursuit of the Palestinian cause.

    The Palestinians in the court of public opinion are their own worst enemy . They need a Ghandi or a Martin Luther King to lead them away from the cycle of violence the PLO, PFLP, Hamas, Islamic Jihad etc. have taken them down. As much as they believe it serves their purpose by strapping on a bomb and blowing up a pizza parlor it does not - at all. Unfortunately the Israelis have been doing the fuctional equivalent ever since 1948. They just use the IDF and somehow it becomes legitimate.

    Cycle of violence - an eye for an eye just makes everyone blind -

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    By Mark Hodges, April 2, 2006 at 9:27 pm Link to this comment
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    Israel is the ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!Get it through your thick anti-semitic skulls!!Name one other nation in the Middle East where the people , including Arabs, can elect their government , name one other nation that protects free speech, free press and an independent judiciary? Tell me one other nation where women and gays have more rights than in Israel? Is Israel perfect? No ...but compared to the rest of the region Israel shines like a diamond in a shit pile…...AND ANOTHER THING: Israel is willing to return almost all of the occupied territories as it has the Sinai…..Israel is a nation of only 7500 square miles…..Why not denounce the Arab world like you do little Israel? Israel doesn’t flog its citizens in public, Israel doesn’t behead criminals, Israel doesn’t have a controlled media, Israel’s courts are independent and freedom flourishes more in Israel than in the surrounding nations…..STOP PICKING ON ISRAEL…IT IS NOT TO BLAME FOR BUSHITES POLICIES, IT IS NOT SOME SECRET FORCE CONTROLLING AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY…..

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    By aviationh8r, April 2, 2006 at 9:01 pm Link to this comment
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    ‘Evil zionist Christians’.  <snicker>  I’d bet you that there are far more Islamic terrorists than there are terrorists of every other stripe on earth, whether Christian, environmentalist, Hindu or whatever else.

    No, not all Muslims are terrorists.  But I’m sure nearly every terrorist is a Muslim.

    As far as the UN goes, it’s about the most useless organization on earth.  Refuses to do much of anything about the endless attacks by radical Muslims (Islamists) against the civilized world, while condeming Israel for taking any steps towards protecting its citizens.

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    By Fadel Abdallah, April 2, 2006 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment
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    To aviationh8r, Comment #6297:

    Go enjoy the company of your 1,000 racist Zionists; for Zionism once was equated with racism according to one United Nations resolution! That’s why I know you’re a bloody racist.

    Go and sleep with them in the same bed, so, perchance, you might beget more little evil devils, who if God will permit you to multiply-may God forbid it- you will continue to spread mischief on earth and bring to the world WWIII or the ultimate Armageddon which the evil Zionist Christians are pushing for very hard!

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    By aviationh8r, April 1, 2006 at 9:14 pm Link to this comment
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    I’d trust 1,000 Jews before I’d trust 10 Muslims.

    BETTER DECEASED THAN PRAYING TO THE EAST!

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    By Fadel Abdallah, March 31, 2006 at 10:50 pm Link to this comment
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    To do the dirty work of the Israeli lobby, one must be a snake. And as the Arabic proverb puts it, “No snake is a good snake!”

    And to those cowardly warmonger leaders, whether in Israel or the United States, who send others to die while they cower under the protection of guards provided by taxpayers money, another Arabic proverb scolds them by saying, “How easy is the war for the spectators!”

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    By Fadel Abdallah, March 31, 2006 at 7:43 pm Link to this comment
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    To Frank-An American Patriot, Message # 6160

    As much as I was elated to read the outstanding piece of John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, I was also elated to read your posted message in respond to it, which I equally find courageous,  well-reasoned and outstanding.
    Since I am in the habit of collecting the most powerful pieces I read and admire, for a possible future publication of a current affair collection, may I ask your permission to include your piece in a prospective future publication.
    You are truly an American Patriot as you like to call yourself, and I am glad I read your piece!
    If you agree to my request, kindly e-mail me at
    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) and I will be greatly thankful.

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    By Mitchell Silverstein, March 31, 2006 at 1:52 pm Link to this comment
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    I disagree with many of the pro-Israel lobbies in Washington, but… can you really blame a lobby for the actions of politicians?  If so, then lobbying reform is what we really need.

    It must also be pointed out that most of the aid Israel receives from the US finds its way right back to America, in the form of huge arms purchases from American companies.  Arab states feel compelled to keep up with Israel, so they also buy arms from us.  What do you think Egypt buys with all that generous aid it’s received from the US, thanks to the Camp David accords? 

    It’s a win-win situation for weapons manufacturers.  Which leads me to ask the question, “who’s playing who?” 

    Blame US policy on the pro-Israel lobby if you like, but only in AIPAC’s wildest dreams do they wield anywhere near the influence of the pro-military and defense lobbies (ex. Aerospace Industries Associaion).  I doubt there would be any real difference in how much US money went to Israel, even if AIPAC didn’t exist.   

    Hats off to Ian Brewer & Richard Silverstein (nice surname, by the way) for their critical comments.  This report needs to be critically picked apart piece by piece; it is neither 100% right or wrong.

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    By Jeff Moskin, March 31, 2006 at 8:55 am Link to this comment
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    You guys are all wrong. The BushCo invasion of Iraq (and the coming bombing of Iran) is NOT ABOUT ISRAEL. Not at all.

    It is about the hegemony of the US Dollar and the continuation of the American Empire in the aftermath of the collapse of the USSR.

    If you want a good read, try: “Petrodollar Warfare”, by William R. Clark

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0865715149/qid=1143820359/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-3542434-7590200?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

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    By Fadel Abdallah, March 30, 2006 at 9:12 pm Link to this comment
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    I take my hat off to these two most courageous scholars, John Mearsheimer and Stephan Walt, for their unprecedented truthdigging on the Israeli Lobby. These two gentlemen are the most free thinkers in the West today! Their work and documentation, though all known to me,is a great service to truth and justice. Considering the fanaticism of Israel’s supporters, I am wondering if these truthdiggers were aware that by publishing these truths, they might be placing their own lives and personal safety on line. I am sure there are many evil fanatic truth-haters who would like to physically liquidate these two intellectual giants. However, there are many faithful who are praying for their safety and prosperity; I am one of those.
    Also, sadly knowing that the American Congress is an Israeli-occupied territory, I pray for a day of deliverance from this evil foreign occupation by the Israeli Lobby!

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    By Ian Brewer, March 30, 2006 at 7:58 pm Link to this comment
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    Reading some of the comments here, it is easy to understand why Jews still feel threatened. Some seem to think that because the Holocaust happened a long time ago, the Jews should just get over it. Do we say the same thing about blacks and slavery or even the genocide against the American Indians? The argument is similar to white racists complaints against affirmative action. Is it really so hard to understand that some of us might think that both the Israelis and the Palestinians have legitimate issues and both pursue illegitimate tactics? I don’t agree with targeted assassinations that kill innocent civilians any more than I agree with suicide bombers that do. I think this issue is too complicated for black and white thinking. I mourn for the loss of life on both sides. The Jews have a right to protect themselves from virulent anti-Semitism with secure borders and the Palestinians have a right to self determination and a state of their own. I didn’t like Sharon or Arafat, neither were honest brokers for peace. I can’t stand Dershowitz or Hitchens or the idiot Libertarians at antiwar.com. I hate Likud and Hamas equally. In general, I don’t like right wingers no matter whose side their on. I do like Peretz and Abbas two people on opposite sides that seem sincerely interested in peace.

    Having said that, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt did not write this piece because they give a goddamn about Palestinians. They wrote it because they want to align the US with Arab nations that have oil, that’s it. They are all about maintaining US hegemony and control and access to natural resources especially oil. In this they are little different from the neo-cons. The neo-cons are willing to whip up Christian fundamentalists to support their agenda and Mearsheimer and Walt are doing the same with the David Duke crowd. While it is unlikely that they are anti-Semites, they have no problem fueling (pun intended) the fires of anti-Semitism to promote their objectives. They are no different then corporatists before them that have used this issue to misdirect peoples attention away from the corporate interests that are the real problem. Do you think they will ever write an article about the undue power of trans-national oil companies lobbyists? Not a chance! Do you think they want to pursue good relations with Venezuela as long as it is being led by left wing President Hugo Chavez? Unlikely.

    This really isn’t the issue that I like to spend my time on, but as long as conspiracy theorists are hard at work trying to get us all to take our eyes off the ball, I feel obligated to shoot them down. My blood boils when I hear anti-Semitic statements whether they’re directed against Jews or Arabs, yours should too. America needs to return to a more balanced approach in the middle east that recognizes the humanity and rights of Israelis and Palestinians. It’s too bad that so many can’t acknowledge the complexity of this issue, and the legitimate concerns and humanity of both sides.

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    By skip, March 30, 2006 at 5:19 pm Link to this comment
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    I am amused by the argument that Egypt gets lots of aid too, and that we can’t blame THAT on a lobby.

    But yes we can. The SAME lobby. The billions to Egypt are intended to buy off the Egyptians, keep them docile, and reward them for Camp David. The Israelis were all for it.

    NO ONE who lives in Washington and knows how the game works (me: 33 years) will challenge the power of Israeli lobby.

    Finally, the problem hasn’t been with people saying the war was all for Israel—as some here deftly allege— but rather that Israel was a factor not being mentioned at all.
     
    Nota bene: the last stats I saw had Jews making up 1.7% of the US population, which doesn’t quite square with CNN having Wolf Blitzer, Dennis Ross, Frank Gaffney, Cliff May, Ruel Gerecht, Richard Perle, and Ken Ademan on all the time as “experts on the Middle East.”

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    By skip, March 30, 2006 at 4:57 pm Link to this comment
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    All you need to keep in mind about undue influence on foreign policy is what Condi Rice once said to Doug Feith:

    “Doug, when I want Israel’s opinion I’ll summon the Israeli ambassador.”

    I love the logic of the lobby’s defenders: “you falsely say our lobby is unduly powerful; and you say it again, you’ll never work in Washington again.”

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    By Mike Mahr, March 30, 2006 at 1:04 pm Link to this comment
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    Having Isreal as a dependent ally is like having an out of control, self-destructive, egocentric teen slut for a daughter. It never ends.

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    By Larry Larsen, March 30, 2006 at 11:08 am Link to this comment
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    When I see an Israeli calling a Palestinian an “anti-semite” as I saw on Meet the Press a couple years ago, “Anti-semitic” loses all meaning to me.  Time to change the nature of the debate.

    When I see Chris Bury on Nightline asking Meir Fox if he is allowed to ask a potentially aggressive question for FEAR that Fox MIGHT declare it anti-semitic, the vastly disproportionate Jewish influence (not control) on the shaping and distribution of the news becomes plausible.  (If I hadn’t seen this with my own eyes, I wouldn’t have believed it.)

    When this whole Rachel Corrie Diary furball happened this past month, both of the above become even more credible. 

    When I search Truthdig for Corrie and came up with one hit where the original incident was mentioned indirectly, and nothing about the complete suppression of an entire credible/alternative point of view by branding it Palestinian Terrorist Propaganda, my fears are starting to be confirmed.

    When I NEVER hear Al Franken or John Stewart criticize/mock/look into the Israeli body count war against the Palestinians, (like they rightly and aggressively mock the US body count war against the Iraqis), the Israeli policy of continuing settlements while demanding unconditional pre-negotiation terms by Palestinians, I really start to wonder if I’m not hallucinating.

    When I see people stating that anti-Israel (current policies) is the same as anti-Jewish, I lose almost all faith that the situation is self-correcting.

    When I see a reasonable study such as this just blasted for no apparent reason, I start checking last names.

    I’m resisting taking the last few steps down this path, but it sure seems that a pattern is forming.  The general and subtle attempt to equate anti-Israel with anti-Jewish is particularly troubling to me.

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    By Frank - An American Patriot, March 30, 2006 at 10:02 am Link to this comment
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    It’s about time that the American people begin to wake up from the long nightmare of atrocities and evil committed in their name. Unqualified US support of Israel is one of the leading causes of anti-American sentiment around the world and one of the reasons why America is targeted by the Islamic Jihadists. 9/11 to paraphrase Malcom X was “the chickens coming home to roost.” Notwithstanding the hundreds of billions of dollars in aid this is the “net” loss in the relationship. One must be a fool, willfully ignorant, completely uneducated or just completely biased about the issue not to understand this. My tax accountant is Jewish – he’s a wonderful and a committed progressive - but when it comes to the Palestinians he understands they are oppressed but he stated to my face “I don’t care.” His position is that after what the Nazis did to the Jews we need to do whatever it takes to survive and if that means oppressing an entire people then so be it.

    Next time you are searched before boarding an airplane think about the line of causality that extends from being a target of terrorism to the repression of a people. I do not condone violence in any form (except in extreme self defense) but can understand that when a people have no hope they resort to violence against those who cause and are perceived to cause their suffering. The Israeli governments’ policies and the USA’s support of them are the root cause of the suffering of the Palestinian people. It’s the occupation stupid! The facts of the matter are not really in dispute. Any position to the contrary is just blaming the victim just as it would be blaming a woman for being raped or the slave for being enslaved. The US has almost without exception supported Israeli-Zionist interests ever since we recognized the government of Israel in 1948. The litany of atrocities and complete disrespect for human rights by the Israeli government is far too long to write about here.

    The publication of the paper by the two very well respected academics John J. Mearsheimer & Stephen M. Walt has resulted in a predictable backlash by the pro-Israeli lobby in the American and world press. Charges of anti-Semitism are as predictable as the sun rising when anyone deigns to criticize the Israeli government. American Jews, while usually quite liberal and progressive are for the most part committed to social justice except when it comes to the horrors perpetrated by the Israeli government on the Palestinian people. Apologists for the Israeli lobby such as Max Boot and the lobby itself smugly point to organizations like CAMERA debunking the paper as if CAMERA were an objective source of information.

    We say we support Israel because it shares our values? Wake up America – Israel is not a democracy any more than the USA would be if we expelled all non-Christians and declared that (except for a tiny minority who refused to leave) no one could be a citizen unless they were Christian. Unbalanced support for this theocracy is leading us down a path where we will forever spend our national treasure and blood defending that which is indefensible; justifying behavior which is unjustifiable. Please look at the history, the facts. The myth of the noble kibbutzim greening the desert and bringing truth justice and freedom to a bunch of backward Arabs is just that – a myth. The Israeli government has systematically engaged in ethic cleansing ever since the founding of the state and the gullible American taxpayer has supported that with blood and treasure. Look at the UN Security Council votes, at the wholesale giving of arms. I could go on and on but this is not the forum. There are plenty of sources for this information. Even the Israelis themselves are more open about the debate than we Americans. The Arabs are just as guilty of human rights abuses and atrocities as are the Israelis but until the US breaks its addiction to our one-sided support we have no hope of bringing peace to that region. We have not been an honest broker. This conflict is waged by two sides that base their beliefs and philosophy on the Old Testament – “an eye for an eye” and until this cycle of violence is broken with some New Testament philosophy getting the parties to “turn the other cheek” we will be doomed to war and oppression and it’s consequences.

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    By ETSpoon, March 30, 2006 at 8:04 am Link to this comment
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    Having read Israeli journalist Michael Karpin’s new book, “The Bomb In The Basement: How Israel When Nuclear and What It Means for the World”, and portions of professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt’s essay, I say:“Yes, Virginia, there is an Israel Lobby.”

    Since Lyndon Johnson’s administration, US foreign policy toward Israel has been one of an over-indulgent aunt doting over a very spoilt nephew who is given whatever toy he wants.

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    By Larry Anklam, March 30, 2006 at 7:45 am Link to this comment
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    “Ask the survivors of “USS LIBERTY” how they feel about the state of Israel. We let our own American servicemen die on June 8th, 1967 (during the six day war) in order for Israel to expand the racist state and occupy Arab lands to this day.”

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    By John m Sandoval, March 30, 2006 at 12:19 am Link to this comment
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    It is the policy of “The American Jewish Committee” to make it impossible and downright unhealthy, to print articles calling attention to “The Jewish Coalition.” (they control the American news media)
    Even Jewish religious affairs, are nothing more than “Jewish political affairs.”
    The “American Israel public affairs committee” has - since the begining of “The United States” been dedicated to build a “United Israel” inside the United States.
    Therefore; “The American Jewish Committee” represents the “International Nation” of Jews.
    And America’s finances (monetary policies) are governed by the unconstitutional, non government, illegal, Federal Reserve Board. The Twelve Federal Reserve Banks are also “Private, non government institutions.”
    (The Israel lobby controls our Congressmen)
    John M Sandoval - free lance writer

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    By John m Sandoval, March 29, 2006 at 9:54 pm Link to this comment
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    “The reason “               
                                                              The Media’ reported that a “leading newspaper” in “England” was doing thorough research to determine, whether George W Bush was right or wrong in launching the Iraqi War. (the motive and the cause)
    It may not be public knowledge, that the US Congress knows, that
    “Kuwait” and “Saudi Arabia” have the equivalent of $28 Trillion dollars worth of funds in “US Banks”.
    US Banks is a misnomer because the twenty eight Trillion dollars are probably deposited to the 12 “non government & private”  Federal Reserve banks.  (not US National Banks)
    Without the Iraqi War, the US Treasury would not have’ to borrow
    $419 Billion dollars (or more) from The non govt. Federal Reserve Board. These $419 Billion dollars, have to be, paid back, to The Federal Reserve Board with a fluctuating prime rate of interest.
    George W Bush, is continually raising the “exorbitant” National deficit. and this will profit The Federal Reserve Board. ( The World Bank )
    The United States is the largest “shareholder” in the World Bank, which is a totally independent Organization, aspiring to become “The New World Order.”

    And so it was; that US Forces attacked “Iraq” “the first time” because “Iraq” attacked “Kuwait” and was threatening “Saudi Arabia”. The second “Iraq War” was caused, by Mr. Paul Wolfowits, “the new President” of the “World Bank” - to keep the $28 Trillion dollars or more in the 12 (private, non govt.) Federal Reserve Banks. And to procure the profits for “Haliburton and Bechtel” from the Iraqi War.
    If the $28 Trillion dollars, (or more) are withdrawn from these Banks, our “United States Economy” would be in “very serious difficulty”.
    (Perhaps one of the causes and reasons for the Iraqi War)

    Mr. Wolfowits is the mastermind-architect, of the “excuse” for the Iraq War’ the non-existent “Weapons of mass destruction.” He and George W Bush drove home the lies, and caused the Iraqi War. The real Nuclear danger, is from North Korea and from Iran.
    Our government knew, since 1991, that Iraq had abandoned its program to develop Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    There are serious doubts that the “English leading newspaper” (doing research) will publish this Declaration. Because The World Bank is in London England and the “World Bank” is secretive, untouchable and unmentionable (will not accept blame for anything).
    Nevertheless, they control finances and values of the currencies for 184 Nations, throughout the entire World.
    At the end of World War 1 – President Woodrow Wilson declared; Is there any American

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    By John m Sandoval, March 29, 2006 at 9:40 pm Link to this comment
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    To the editor                                   26 March 2006 (375)  words    
    Subject; “The Federal Reserve Board”
    From John M Sandoval – free lance writer

    In his 2003 state of the union speech George W Bush “Lied” when he said; Iraq had 25,000 liters of Anthrax, 38,000 liters of Botulinum Toxin, and 500 Tons of Sarin, Mustard and VX nerve agent. (these quantaties were made up – no source was ever mentioned).
    Vice President Cheney “Lied” when he said; Iraq has a Nuclear Weapons program that is making progress.
    Secretary of State Colin Powell “Lied” when he said; Iraq has Biological Weapons Laboratories on rails and Chemical Weapons Bunkers. (an absolute falsehood)
    Ex deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz (now President of The World Bank)  “Lied” when he stated, that Saddam Hussein had “Weapons of mass destruction ready to attack the United States.
    He was the architect/engineer, the designer of the excuse for invading Iraq - the “weapons of mass destruction.” No one would have agreed to launch a full scale war on Iraq without the sensationalyzeing of this “made up nuclear threat.” When asked, what he had to say; about this sensational Lie, Paul Wolfowitz responded – quote!  I don’t have to!
    It is blatantly obvious in view of the exhorbitant cost of the Iraqi War, $468 Billion - that he deliberately drove the point home, that war was inevitable, in order to raise the national debt, so “The unconstitutional Federal Reserve Board” could collect the prime rate of interest, for the loans to support the War. He is an American Jew and is arbitrarily representing the best interests of the state of Israel.  He is the prime responsible person for our involvement in the “Middle East Crisis.”  The second most responsible person is George W Bush an autocratic/dictatorial president with the mentality of a spoiled teenager. This man will go down in history as the creator of The illegal Iraqi War. A war that is placing America in serious risk of a future “Economic Collapse.” The exhorbitant National debt is unsustainable! The seven governors of “The Federal Reserve Board” are celebrating the collection of the behemoth amount of “Prime Rate Interest.”  Israel gets Billions per year, in aid and guaranteed loans from the United States of America; while Mr. Paul Wolfowitz is basking in his appointment to new President of “The World Bank.” 
    For what?  other purpose, did King David create “The Treasures of Zion.”
    John M Sandoval
    185 Kona dr. Bastrop Texas 78602
    (512) 321 1885To the editor                                   26 March 2006 (375)  words    
    Subject; “National Debt”
    From John M Sandoval – free lance writer

    In his 2003 state of the union speech George W Bush “Lied” when he said; Iraq had 25,000 liters of Anthrax, 38,000 liters of Botulinum Toxin, and 500 Tons of Sarin, Mustard and VX nerve agent. (these quantaties were made up – no source was ever mentioned).
    Vice President Cheney “Lied” when he said; Iraq has a Nuclear Weapons program that is making progress.
    Secretary of State Colin Powell “Lied” when he said; Iraq has Biological Weapons Laboratories on rails and Chemical Weapons Bunkers. (an absolute falsehood)
    Ex deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz (now President of The World Bank)  “Lied” when he stated, that Saddam Hussein had “Weapons of mass destruction ready to attack the United States.
    He was the architect/engineer, the designer of the excuse for invading Iraq - the “weapons of mass destruction.” No one would have agreed to launch a full scale war on Iraq without the sensationalyzeing of this “made up nuclear threat.” When asked, what he had to say; about this sensational Lie, Paul Wolfowitz responded – quote!  I don’t have to!
    It is blatantly obvious in view of the exhorbitant cost of the Iraqi War, $468 Billion - that he deliberately drove the point home, that war was inevitable, in order to raise the national debt, so “The unconstitutional Federal Reserve Board” could collect the prime rate of interest, for the loans to support the War. He is an American Jew and is arbitrarily representing the best interests of the state of Israel.  He is the prime responsible person for our involvement in the “Middle East Crisis.”  The second most responsible person is George W Bush an autocratic/dictatorial president with the mentality of a spoiled teenager. This man will go down in history as the creator of The illegal Iraqi War. A war that is placing America in serious risk of a future “Economic Collapse.” The exhorbitant National debt is unsustainable! The seven governors of “The Federal Reserve Board” are celebrating the collection of the behemoth amount of “Prime Rate Interest.”  Israel gets Billions per year, in aid and guaranteed loans from the United States of America; while Mr. Paul Wolfowitz is basking in his appointment to new President of “The World Bank.” 
    For what?  other purpose, did King David create “The Treasures of Zion.”
    John M Sandoval
    185 Kona dr. Bastrop Texas 78602
    (512) 321 1885

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    By Lorne Houten, March 29, 2006 at 9:00 pm Link to this comment
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    It is really something how powerful those Jews are.  We have been told that they control world finance, that they dominate the world media, that they murder innocent Gentiles for their blood to make matzos, and that they were able to trick the world into believing that there was a Holocaust.  Now we are informed in a featured article in Truth?dig that the Jews, all 2.2% of the population, control American foreign policy and have used their power to damage America.

    I am not objecting to the authors writing their article.  I favour free speech and it is an unavoidable consequence of free speech that much nonsense, even dangerous nonsense, is published by so-called experts.  I have had much respect for Robert Scheer over the years, so I am deeply disappointed that Truth?dig would feature an article by Jew-hating conspiracy theorists.

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    By Rootless Cosmopolitan, March 29, 2006 at 5:47 pm Link to this comment
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    Ever since Nixon, the US figured it needed a cop in the middle east. Israel was chosen. We give Israel a good 10 billion a year-5 billion from tax free donors, another 5 billion in direct US aid—arms, etc. (Total Israeli state expenditures are around 50 Billion)

    We keep Egypt quiet by giving them 2-3 billion a year. Israel has become out client state and we’ve become theirs. Ever notice those UN votes that go 102-3? ; the three are the US, Israel and the Marianas. Friend US has vetoed 35 UN resolutions asking Israel to get out of the occupied lands, stop killing Arabs, etc.

    It’s a terrible mess and the only way out is for the US to stop its jihad against the Arabs and to try to get oil without taking over countries to do it.

    So it goes.

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    By American, March 29, 2006 at 2:34 pm Link to this comment
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    If this article went the other way, you couldn’t keep it out of the mainstream media.  It’s time America wakes up to how 3% of its population calls the shots for the other 97%.

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    By Stephen Pitt, March 29, 2006 at 1:53 pm Link to this comment
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    Both the U.S. & Israel are presently in the grip of an extreme right that paints an untruthful picture of entire populations.  Suddenly, its so convenient to make outlandish, reactionary assertions.  Its never enough for some to be in a constant state of hatred and fear.

    Perhaps an equivalent perfect storm of combined moderation will return stability to a partnership so sorely needed by both countries.  We should protect alliances that reach well beyond the blinding, deafening rancor of the moment. 

    Both countries need to lighten their dark sides and work to end the chaos so desired by government extremists.  Hasn’t the Right done enough damage without fueling more hatred?  Democratically removing the virulent Bushists and Likudists would be a good start.

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    By Name Withheld, March 29, 2006 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment
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    RE: comment 6064

    I usually don’t like to respond to individual comments posted on these sites, as they can be misconstrued as personal attacks. Nevertheless, while I would not challenge the assertion that oil is a prime motive for all US actions in the Middle East, I fail to see how this mitigates the fact that America is dispensing inordinate amounts of blood and money in support of an oppressive bully-theocracy. Can anyone seriously believe that hybrid cars will change fifty years of entrenched foreign policy?

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    By Name Withheld, March 29, 2006 at 12:46 pm Link to this comment
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    RE: comment 6064

    I usually don’t like to respond to individual comments posted on these sites, but I couldn’t let this one slip by. While I would not challenge the assertion that oil is a prime motive for all US actions in the Middle East, I fail to see how this mitigates the fact that America is dispensing inordinate amounts of blood and money in support of an oppressive bully-theocracy. Can anyone seriously believe that hybrid cars will change fifty years of entrenched foreign policy?

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    By Name Withheld, March 29, 2006 at 11:15 am Link to this comment
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    The motives or scholarly merit of Walt’s and Mearsheimer’s report aside, I applaud their courage in opening this debate. It’s obvious why some interest groups don’t want Americans to look at the costs/benefits equation of our (thus far) unquestioned support for the state of Israel. I am not convinced that most of us are truly happy about shedding American blood and diluting American wealth in the creation of religious “democracies”, be they Iraq, Afghanistan, or Israel. Domestically, we should all be looking at these aforementioned states as object lessons in the value of secular democracy, something we seem to be willing to let slip away at home.

    Although I have given my name in comments on this site before, I chose not to here. This speaks volumes about the prevailing attitudes regarding this topic.

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    By Meredith Watts, March 29, 2006 at 10:40 am Link to this comment
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    Here’s one of the things that is most troubling to me, and one of the hardest to talk about.  The anti-AIPAC report presents a lot of evidence that The Lobby has played the “Jew card” when it benefits and suits them, such as working specifically through Jewish staff members on the Hill, and referring overtly and by implication to the moral capital of the Holocaust.  However, they then howl in anger when anyone else attempts to call them on it; any suggestion that they are taking advantage of “being Jewish” can only be born of anti-semitism in their view and can have no other impetus.  Why is it that The Lobby gets to make use of the fact that they represent a “Jewish community” on the one hand, and then turn around and blast any opposition to the policies and politics of that “community” as antisemitic?

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    By jeff gershoff, March 29, 2006 at 9:58 am Link to this comment
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    Of course, it is obvious how difficult it is for a jew to respond to some of the comments either in the article itself, or the comments by Truthdig readers without sounding either paranoid or unfairly raising anti-semitic flags on the one hand, or else just defending the existence of Israel due to the very fact of it being a Jewish state.  In rather a simple and straightforward way I’d like to assert an alternative track as being closer to the truth than this article is:  Don’t ignore the obvious.  Our insatiable thirst for oil, and the fundamentally non-synthesizable clash of civilizations between the western world and the Islamic world, is what puts Israel as our (US) well paid and well funded outpost in the Middle East.  If it wasn’t for oil and the perceived threat of jihad as both being capable of inflicting fatal wounds on the US, there would be as little interest in the US in dealing with the middle east or the Arab world as there is in dealing with Africa.  In other words, none.  Of all of the 20 people before me who made their comments on this thread, how many of you are driving SUVs today, and how much have you donated in the last year to sub-Sahara aid organizations, or to a palestinian cause?  It is good to look in the mirror before telling someone else their face is dirty.

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    By Adnan, March 29, 2006 at 9:41 am Link to this comment
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    Most of the people around the World has been aware of this for decades, and it is about time for North Americans to wake up….  Of course, we should not blame Jews in general for crimes committed “in their name” by Zionists. This is an example of Orthodox Jewish organization which is against Zionists, and their policies:
    http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm
    “The true Jews are against dispossessing the Arabs of their land and homes. According to the Torah, the land should be returned to them.

    Neturei Karta deplore the systematic uprooting of ancient Jewish communities by the Zionists, the shedding of Jewish and non-Jewish blood for the sake of Zionist sovereignty and the Neturei Karta favor a peaceful transition from the present Zionist rule to a non-Zionist entity…..”

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    By Robin Miller, March 29, 2006 at 7:45 am Link to this comment
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    Sadly, Blair Golson’s piece, largely apologizing for Israel, reflects Robert Scheer’s own inability to tell the truth about the Middle East.

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    By Ken & Donna Bubb, March 29, 2006 at 7:44 am Link to this comment
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    3/29/06

    Three cheers that we got Prof. Walt and Mear-
    sheimer’s entire report untouched via The London
    Review of Books. We would expect the array of
    regular so-called high profile critics to go for
    the jugular immediately; this is their usual mean tactic, several of them self-serving plagiarists and out-right liars. There will be
    no peace in the Middle East until the love affair between the U.S. and Israel is justly re-
    solved. Cheers again for Profs. Walt and Mear-
    sheimer.

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    By lck, March 29, 2006 at 6:27 am Link to this comment
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    Follow the money, and it will lead us to who really controls this country

    “The truth about the Federal Reserve System”
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3286459385978771924

    The Ludwig von Mises Institute
    http://www.mises.org/

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    By Benjamin Melançon, March 29, 2006 at 6:08 am Link to this comment
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    George Salzman has been writing and blogging and responding to reader comments about the Israel lobby extensively before it hit the news.  Personally I also think the Israel lobby, while clearly well-coordinated and skilled in using claims of anti-semitism (true or not) to shut down discussion, is not even the beginning of an explanation for the billions the U.S. gives Israel, let alone other U.S. policy.  Is their a vast Egyptian lobby for the (not as many) billions Egypt gets?  And maybe I’m paranoid but I find myself with a need to say very loudly and clearly that any real and alleged manipulations by Jewish lobbyists does not justify hatred or recriminations against Jews generally, just as the real and alleged crimes of the U.S. government does not justify violence against people in the U.S., and the real and alleged crimes of Saddam Huissein do not justify unending aerial bombardment and now occupation of Iraq.

    But what I was saying is that for looking at the Israel lobby issue from the broad perspective of how do we change the world for the better, you can’t beat Salzman.

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    By Mike Torrino, March 29, 2006 at 5:18 am Link to this comment
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    About Time.  The tail has been wagging this dog for way to long.
    We infuriate 1.3 billion people to support 10 million because they are rich and bribe our spineless politicians.

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    By Richard Fye, March 29, 2006 at 4:32 am Link to this comment
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    How did Blair Golson get this job?

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    By Richard Silverstein, March 29, 2006 at 3:02 am Link to this comment
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    The problem I have with the above synopsis is that because most of the people writing about the essay are critics, the list above seems weighted toward criticizing it rather than evaluating it dispassionately.

    I’ve tried to do that at my own blog (the post is linked here).  I critique their argument when I disagree and I note the many strong points in their presentation.

    Personally, I think that though there is room to criticize “The Israel Lobby,” most of the criticism I’ve read is horsecrap.  The pro-Israel crowd can’t stand any criticism of Israel no matter what its motivation.  So they go on the offensive.

    Aipac is one helluva pernicious group, bad for the U.S. and bad for Israel.  They need to be taken to task.  They’d have us invading Iran tomorrow if Bush would go along (and he still might).  Is that the kind of Mideast policy this country needs?

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    By Harris, March 28, 2006 at 9:30 pm Link to this comment
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    This is not the first time the lobby has ben taaken on.  Try this book.

    They Dare to Speak Out

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    By Harris, March 28, 2006 at 9:29 pm Link to this comment
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    This is not the first time the lobby has ben taaken on.  Try this book.

    They Dare to Speak Out

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1556520735/103-1592461-1391000?v=glance&n=283155

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    By felicity smith, March 28, 2006 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment
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    Read “Tikkun” magazine if you want a reasoned and thoughtful discussion of conditions in modern day Israel and other issues in the Jewish community.  There’s no rant, no name calling, no dissembling.  The subscription to it was given to me by a Jewish friend who is appalled by the behavior of his people toward the Palestinians.  Parenthetically, it might help if Israel would publish an economic report showing where and to whom the 14 million dollars/day that we contribute goes. We’ve been doing it for about 30 years.

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    By Louis Proyect, March 28, 2006 at 8:02 am Link to this comment
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    http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/the-israel-lobby/

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    By Martin, March 28, 2006 at 6:47 am Link to this comment
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    I agree with ‘anonymous’ that the greatest fear of the Israel lobby is that the American support for their State evaporates or becomes too expensive.  I believe that Ariel Sharon, after dedicating a life time to ‘Greater Israel’ from the sea to the river, realized that America is losing in Iraq.  And with this loss, the appetite of the American people to support a state built on racial and religious purity will vanish soon.  Israel has no other ally who will die for it and is in great peril. That’s why Ehud Olmert, if elected wants to have final borders and withdraw his statelet behind the moat.
    It might be too late.  The seed of hate is out.  Israel celebrated 50 years recently, but I doubt that there will be a 100 year celebration.
    It is just impossible to maintain a State as an island in a sea of hate.  Likud destroyed the last chance for peace by undermining the Oslo accord.  It cost the American tax payer billions.  We just paid billions for the Gaza evacuation after we paid billions for the settlement construction in the years before. Our money will run out soon.  Israel will be hard to defend without the life line of American cash. A lot of the Israeli citizens have also American or other secondary citizenships.  When the going gets tough they can leave.
    And we in the US should have a more open discussion about our foreign entanglements.  George Washington warned us not to enter any such traps. We are in it and we need to get out.

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    By JP, March 28, 2006 at 6:11 am Link to this comment
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    Ian, I’m with you - I think the Christian Zionists are partly responsible for the elevated focus on protecting Israel.

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    By Mark Hodges, March 27, 2006 at 10:48 pm Link to this comment
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    Israel is not perfect BUT compared to the rest of the nations in that area it shines like a diamond in a shit pile. Name one other nation in the middle east that elects it own leaders, respects freedom of speech and press and has an independent judiciary? Israel is the only nation in the middle east where women have equal rights with men and where gays and lesbians are afforded protection under the law. NAME ONE OTHER NATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST THAT HAS RETURNED LAND (a great deal of it) in exchange for peace? Why not bash Saudi Arabia or Egypt or any of the other dictatorships that are so common in the middle east? Why pick on the only democracy in the region? Just something to think about.

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    By Ian Brewer, March 27, 2006 at 9:26 pm Link to this comment
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    Further, I would encourage every fair minded person to check out this interesting piece at AlterNet:

    http://www.alternet.org/blogs/themix/34014/

    Let’s be sure what’s really going on here before we forget about Cheney’s energy task force and start casting blame on minorities, shall we?

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    By Ian Brewer, March 27, 2006 at 9:14 pm Link to this comment
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    In continuation, to be fair, US policy since the Bush regime seized power, has been unwisely skewed towards Israel. I attribute this more to Bush appeasing his Christian fundamentalist base than to the power of the Israeli lobby. I would also say that big military contracts going to representatives respective states and the arms and oil lobbies far out way the influence of the Israeli lobby. Forgive me if I’m skeptical of claims of all powerful international Jewish conspiracies that can control politicians like puppets on a string, that’s just me though. John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt’s claims do seem eerily familiar, you have to admit.

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    By Ian Brewer, March 27, 2006 at 8:51 pm Link to this comment
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    I don’t feel it necessary to refute John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt’s research, what they say about some of the influence of the Israeli lobby may well be true. But to blame Israel for the Bush regimes policies seems to me to be a case of the tail wagging the dog. The current effort by the right wing to shift attention away from the influence of Big Oil and the Military Industrial Complex (institutions with far more power than the Zionists could ever hope to muster) for the Bush regimes failed policies onto the Jews is classic scapegoating. That the rabidly anti-Semitic Libertarian site anti-war loves this is no surprise. Given that Libertarians believe that corporations can do no wrong, they need handy scapegoats. Mearsheimer, from what I can find on the web, seems to be a bit of a right wing wacko who wanted the Ukraine and Germany to develop nuclear arsenals and for the US to go to war with China. No thanks! I know that doesn’t discredit this argument, but it does make him somewhat suspect. The current concerted effort by the corporatists and their allies to salvage their bankrupt ideology from being completely discredited by the inevitable results it has caused is clear in it’s intent. Think not of the corporate power-broker behind the screen, think of the Jew. Hey, why not? It worked for the Nazis.

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    By Elaine Meinel Supkis, March 27, 2006 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment
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    I have written extensively on the subject of Israel and how the growing fascism there is infecting America.  We always had home grown fascists here while the Jewish community which rightfully fears right wing fascism, fought hard to liberalize American society and bring Civil Rights to us all.

    That is in the past.  Today, many supporters of Israel want liberalism here and respect of minority religions and no mix of church and state but in Israel, want exactly that: a racist, religious-bigotted, discriminatory fascist police state! 

    Worse, our government is totally corrupted by lobbyists of all stripes and religions!  Yet no reforms can save us for all the lobbyists fight tooth and nail to prevent this so “liberals” are suddenly fascists when it comes to campaign finance reforms because these huge lobbies and IAPAC is one of the biggest, want the present corrupt system to continue!

    The Harvard study is naturally going to be viciously attacked by people with access to the media.  The mainstream media prevents virtually any news of Jewish crimes in Palestine from seeing the light of day and when they do cover stories, they print nearly always only the Israeli side.  Naturally, this totally biased system will not let a read debate rage over these issues that are tearing apart the world and causing one war after another to break out.

    Our troops are on the verge of being driven out of Iraq and Afghanistan (and Pakistan!).  The people there hate us and want self rule.  Everything is blowing up in our faces.  We are going bankrupt as a nation, too.  And meanwhile, Israel which is doing just great, is leeching off of our nation, running up our bills just like the contractors in Iraq and elsewhere.

    IAPAC must be defanged.  Ditto the NRA, for that matter.  Good grief!

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    By anonymous, March 27, 2006 at 6:58 pm Link to this comment
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    In taking on the Israel lobby, authors Walt and Mearsheimer offer the Americans a chance to reevaluate what until now has been almost an article of faith - that U.S. interests coincide with those of Israel.  Perpetuating this belief has been the raison d’etre of the Israel lobby because; well, because Israel has no other dependable allie.  What the Israel lobby most fears is that Americans will begin to question this alliance and wonder whether it’s a net plus or a net minus in so far as our real interests are concerned.  What’ll surface then is the fact that justice for the Palestinian people is the main issue that stokes anti-Americanism in the Arab and Moslem world and that nothing could do more to quench anti-Americanism than a switch in America’s position to even-handedness in regards to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.  We make that switch plus bringing our troops home now from Iraq and instantaneously America, in the minds and hearts of Mideasterners, will go from being the most hated (along with Israel)to the most revered nation on earth.  Terrorism will be passe then and we’ll be on the way towards peace on earth and goodwill to woman and man.  As for the Israel lobby?  Just don’t be intimidated by them!

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