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| After Pat’s BirthdayPosted on Oct 19, 2006
Editor’s note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat in 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was killed in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004. Kevin, who was discharged in 2005, has written a powerful, must-read document.
Much has happened since we handed over our voice: Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct threat to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists, or was involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade uranium from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an insurgency, or stop a civil war we created that can’t be called a civil war even though it is. Something like that.
Somehow our elected leaders were subverting international law and humanity by setting up secret prisons around the world, secretly kidnapping people, secretly holding them indefinitely, secretly not charging them with anything, secretly torturing them. Somehow that overt policy of torture became the fault of a few “bad apples” in the military. Somehow back at home, support for the soldiers meant having a five-year-old kindergartener scribble a picture with crayons and send it overseas, or slapping stickers on cars, or lobbying Congress for an extra pad in a helmet. It’s interesting that a soldier on his third or fourth tour should care about a drawing from a five-year-old; or a faded sticker on a car as his friends die around him; or an extra pad in a helmet, as if it will protect him when an IED throws his vehicle 50 feet into the air as his body comes apart and his skin melts to the seat. Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal invasion becomes. Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground. Somehow those afraid to fight an illegal invasion decades ago are allowed to send soldiers to die for an illegal invasion they started. Somehow faking character, virtue and strength is tolerated. Somehow profiting from tragedy and horror is tolerated. Somehow the death of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people is tolerated. Somehow subversion of the Bill of Rights and The Constitution is tolerated. Somehow suspension of Habeas Corpus is supposed to keep this country safe. Somehow torture is tolerated. Somehow lying is tolerated. Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense. Somehow American leadership managed to create a more dangerous world. Somehow a narrative is more important than reality. Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is. Somehow the most reasonable, trusted and respected country in the world has become one of the most irrational, belligerent, feared, and distrusted countries in the world. Somehow being politically informed, diligent, and skeptical has been replaced by apathy through active ignorance. Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country. Somehow this is tolerated. Somehow nobody is accountable for this. In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the people. So don’t be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this generation as traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity. Most likely, they will come to know that “somehow” was nurtured by fear, insecurity and indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked, unchallenged parasites. Luckily this country is still a democracy. People still have a voice. People still can take action. It can start after Pat’s birthday. Brother and Friend of Pat Tillman, Kevin Tillman Previous item: Chris Hedges -- Inside Egypt Next item: Truthdigger of the Week: Mohamed ElBaradei Elsewhere: . CommentsAre you a Truthdig member yet? Login now, or register with Truthdig. |
By Brett Nicoletti, San Jose CA (Tillman's home city), October 22, 2006 at 12:28 pm #
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Praise Kevin for these intelligent, real, truthful, biting and emotion filled sentences. Thank God for people like him, those who have been there and have experienced the outflow of this insane foreign policy and have the courage (the word has been cheapened recently, well here is the real deal) and the guts to speak and be heard. We are living through this confusing period of our history sleepwalking. Hopefully words like Kevin’s can wake the sleeping giant.
Report thisBy josh, October 22, 2006 at 12:19 pm #
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Illegal? Large wars tend to transecend legality. Vietnam? Illegal? Totally misses the point of war.
Report thisBy Pershing Wells, October 22, 2006 at 12:12 pm #
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Gee… You hit the nail on the head. Only someone with your credibility could punch the hard truth through in this way. I just hope that you get a chance to go on FoxNews and kick their un-American asses. God bless you my man!
Report thisBy Patriot, October 22, 2006 at 12:11 pm #
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I wish that the American public would wake up and deliver both houses of Congress to the Democrats, and with a margin large enough that we could impeach that traitorous murderer and thief George W. Bush, try him and send him to jail, where he belongs, for years and years, and do the same with his entire cabal of corrupt criminals.
Wake up America! Save yourself! Where is Paul Revere when you need him?
Report thisBy fedup, October 22, 2006 at 12:11 pm #
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When are these careerist in the military going to turns the guns on the criminals in Washington, what we need is someone like General Francisco Franco, a morally just and rooted leader to save the country from the perfidious parasites?
Report thisBy Jude, October 22, 2006 at 12:10 pm #
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When we elect cocaine addicted, silver spoon feed little boys with expensive toys to run our country, with their “good’ole boy charm” and Texas swagger, who cannot even speak more than one sylabble words, we are to blame. Only when America decides they have a voice—will those dying in uniform have a voice.
Report thisBy Alan Swicegood, October 22, 2006 at 12:07 pm #
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This piece of literary crap is just another example of left-wing pshyco-babble that has no basis in truth or reason. You have no real answers or solutions just a great hatred for patriotism like my father and countless others displayed in WW2. I guess the leaders of our country then were just war mongerers willing to sacrifice our boys in Europe and the Pacific for their gain. So what if Hitler was killing millions. So what if Saddam was killing countless numbers.So what if thousands of Americans died on 9/11. Lets all just stick our heads up our ass and declare the truth of what is in our heart. We have become a nation filled with spoiled brats like yourself that concern themselves with their own selfish wants and desires.Anything that interferes with what we want as an individual is demonized. Truth and right is no longer an absolute worth fighting and many times dying for. If WW2 had to be fought today as it was then, America would be hard pressed to find the caliber of young men willing to do for their country what those young men did in that day. My father paid a great price to ensure your freedom to piss and moan about serving your country. Grow up. You aren’t the only one who has suffered the loss of someone you love. My youngest son died in my arms ;a victim of a sensless crime. It wasn’t fair and life isn’t many times. I refuse to become bitter and lash out at society with irrational babble becouse of my inability to deal with my feeling of loss and anger. If you thing all of the ills of society will be cured by putting a liberal administration in the White House you’re delusional. The present administration certainly hasn’t been perfect but at least the terrorist world doesn’t have free run of our country while slick Willy is getting a blow-job in the Whitehouse. Oh yeah,I forgot,character isn’t important.
Report thisBy Randolph B. Stripling, October 22, 2006 at 12:03 pm #
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Dear Kevin,
We can not lose anyone more precious than a sibling as humans. We can not lose anything more precious than our liberty as a nation.
My deepest sympathy, and gratitude to you, and to your family for your loss of your dear brother.
He died doing what he thought was the right thing.
He sacraficed a very good life, to serve his country, few things are more noble.
I submit that his death was not, and is not in vain, for God does not take, before giving. As we have lost Pat, and many others we have gained knowledge and insight as we witness the depravity of those who lead our nation. I still have not heard a single relevant source ask, “How did we arrive at this point” (That was the quesion regarding 9/11, I am still waiting for the
“correct” answer)
I can not explain within the time and space constraint herein what is and has happened to our nation, but suffice to say that it fits justly into the natural ways of life. What we sow, we reap. And in the work of the reaper, innocence is not a factor.
It is my prayer, that on November 7th, we have the courage of conviction to vote in numbers of historic significance, bringing sweeping change, lest we are content to continue on the road to total disgrace, and the destruction of a once great nation in the presence of the civilized world.
Let me suggest that we revisit the Declaration of Independence, particually the instructions given to a nation becoming, and the duties we have to maintain, and protect that nation, and our constitution from those who disregard the validities therein.
It is so very hard to realize that the appointed leaders( by the Supreme Court) of this country have no apparent regard for the near sacred oath they took, “To uphold, and defend the Constitution”. In retrospect, they never served our nation in a military uniform, so God, honor, duty, are but words they use with no real meaning, or conviction.
Many stand with you, and your family, though silent. Many others need to shout as though through Gabriel’s trumpet, that “Truth must prevail”
God bless your family, and God Bless the United States of America, with mercy and forgivness.
Report thisBy Rich, October 22, 2006 at 11:58 am #
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Somehow, Patti Sheehan became Kevin tillman.
Report thisBy William DeMente, October 22, 2006 at 11:55 am #
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The Axis Powers learned the futility of invading and occupying other countries during World War II.
Report thisThe European Allied Powers learned the same lesson after World War II when their colonies gained independence; many with the aid of the Soviet Union which was committed to wars of national liberation.
The Soviet Union learned that lesson at the cost of the fragmentation of the Soviet Empire following the occupation of Afghanistan.
The United States did not learn that lesson in Korea when it intervened in a civil war and had to accept an armistice in 1953 to a war which has been technically ongoing since then.
The United States did not learn that lesson in Vietnam which it was forced to evacuate in 1975 leaving Saigon to fall to North Vietnam in another civil war.
The United States has not yet learned that lesson in its occupation of Iraq. The United States was content to supply Saddam Hussein with arms and medical supplies as long as he was engaged in a war of attrition with Iran. When Saddam Hussein failed to defeat Ayatollah Khomeini, he became an embarrassment to the United States until President George W. Bush decided to set up his own government in Iraq. In doing so he forgot the lesson about the CIA coup which ousted the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh to set up the pro-U.S. puppet Shah of Iran. That lesson came back to bite the U.S. in the arse.
The wartime requirements of Korea and Vietnam were filled by the draft. The wartime requirements of Iraq and Afghanistan were filled by volunteers and reservists. With three consecutive losses under its belt, the United States might have to rely on foreign nationals to fill the military enlisted ranks the next time around just like in the final days of the Roman Empire.
By Freddy, October 22, 2006 at 11:52 am #
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Hi Kevin
I believe that if our political leaders had went to Vietnam they would not be so quick to send others into battle. I apologize for those who have personally attacked your opinions. They probably never served in combat or they were REMF’s. The longer you are in combat. bravery, heroism and freedom have a lot less meaning and surviving another day becomes more important. May we all learn to respect one another.
Report thisBless everyone
Freddy
Viet Vet
By Steve Lawnick, October 22, 2006 at 11:49 am #
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A stunning, heart-wrenching piece of writing. My deepest condolences to you and your family, Kevin. How it must have sickened you to watch the administration try to turn your brother’s death into a rah-rah ad for their war. As they have so often demonstrated, there is no depth they will not sink to in their cause. These days I find it difficult to have any optimistic feelings about our situation. I try to hope the upcoming election will make a difference, yet I fear that it won’t. It’s when I read pieces such as the one you wrote that I can find that glimmer of hope that we can turn things around. With enough people speaking truth to power maybe it can happen.
Report thisBy Ed Freyling, October 22, 2006 at 11:45 am #
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Kevin,
Your points are well taken. In some ways you make a strong case against this war. However you have incorrectly labeled this country a “democracy”; we are not. We are a “rebublic”. There is a big difference, democracy is mob rule. In a republic those elected represent the weak, the minority, those without a voice. In a democracy if two wolves and a sheep voted on what to have for dinner guess what they would eat? That is why it is so important to be well informed and have an active voice in whom gets elected in this country. If we don’t care who gets elected we get what we deserve: “the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals” that get elected year after year.
Sincerely,
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By Long Time Ranger, October 22, 2006 at 11:42 am #
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Ranger Tillman,
I am also a soldier and I respect your right to voice your opinion. That’s what is great about this country - free speech. You and I (and countless other soldiers) are in a very dangerous profession where we are willing fight and die for other’s freedom. We are able to freely speak in our country because of the sacrifices of those before us.
I can understand your bitterness. If I had lost my kid brother, I would be bitter, too. At whom you seem to have directed your bitterness is something you should reconsider. I welcomed you and Pat as brother in arms. We’ve all got our own reasons for deciding to become soldiers. We all volunteered. And, in some cases we’re triple volunteers - the Army, Airborne, Ranger. However, even I will admit it was nice to see someone such as Pat give up millions with his deserve to serve.
But, as you now see, this is not the Boy Scouts or a war movie with a happy ending. It is real life, brother. People don’t come home, they leave families behind or they come home all messed up physically and/or mentally. I think you understand that now. I think you were quite naive initially thinking that war was something glorious. But, I think you quickly realized that there’s no glory, only death, destruction and a mission to complete. Professional soldiers understand that - guys that have been in the battalion past their first enlistment and keep coming back.
I would recommend that you re-visit the Ranger Creed. I won’t recite it here for you because you know it Ranger Tillman. You know it well.
Now, for the political bend of what you write. Whether willingly or not, you’ve become a political pawn of the far left in this country. You and I can argue tactics, techniques and procedures about the war in Iraq (or even Afghanistan) but you Iraq is not an “illegal war”. And, when you write that, you reveal your true intentions to use a fellow Ranger’s death to further a political cause. It just so happens that this fellow Ranger is your biological brother.
The same people that call Iraq and “illegal war” and say we should have used more diplomacy and built a larger coalition via the UN are the very same people that now say we should deal one-on-one with North Korea and act more aggressively. In other words, its just a political game to them and you’ve succumbed to their lure because you’re hurting inside about Pat. You’re mad because you lost your brother.
I can understand being angry because I still see the faces of the fallen. And, the emptiness I felt at their memorial service(s), hearing their names called during roll call and seeing their empty boots…
You and I have trampled over the same bloody ground in this global war on terror, we’ve crawled through the same worm pit and felt the enormous sense of accomplishment when we finally earned that tab and scroll.
And, that’s why I am disappointed at your political rant. I won’t argue that there have been some serious miscalculations and mistakes made. You and I both know and have felt the ramifications and these mistakes. But, unlike you, I realize that’s the way it goes in war. War is one big series of successes and failures. You don’t give up when you have a setback though - again, revisit the Ranger Creed.
Which party would you rather have in power? It may be like choosing the lesser of two evils but I for one, don’t want to just give up. Otherwise the things we’ve fought, bled and in some cases, died for just become worthless. And, I we didnt lose good people for nothing. They didnt sacrifice their lives for nothing. Pat didnt die for nothing. But, to hear you describe it, he died for nothing. And, I refuse to believe that.
If we dont succeed in Afghanistan, Iraq and the various other places we’re fighting these Islamic fundementalists then they’ll get stronger and we’ll be weaker. Our families will be targets in our streets and we will all truly feel terror on a much more frequent basis - remember 9/11? Remember what that felt like? Remember what we’re fighting for?
I know you’re hurting brother, but you’ve become a mouthpiece for the liberals - those that want to just surrender and think if we hug the terrorists then they’ll like us. They’ve used you and you should feel dirty. They’ve rolled you out right before an election in order to politicize Pat’s death. That makes me sick and should make your stomach turn, too.
Rangers Lead the Way,
“Long Time Ranger”
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By S. Decker, October 22, 2006 at 11:40 am #
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Thanks for having the courage to speak the truth. We are in danger and need to stand up for what is right.
Report thisBy John Manteris, October 22, 2006 at 11:37 am #
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Kevin,
I am sorry for your loss and for anyone who has lost a friend or relative to war. I can relate to your feelings because we have lost a nephew to the war in Iraq. Also, I served in Viet Nam and lost friends in that war. However, you are so totally wrong! You are feeling sorry for yourself and your family and are releasing your anger in the wrong direction. You and your brother were adults, educated and capable of making the decision to join the armed forces. (I didn’t have that luxury, I was drafted at 19.) Please don’t insult us and say you didn’t know what you were getting yourselves into. You made the decision so be a man and accept all that happened. Do you really think that you brother was the first to ever die by “friendly fire”? Do you think you were ever the first to be lied to by politions? Do you really think that you were the first to think that you were going into a combat zone and “kick ass”? Believe me, you are not! So grow up and face your decisions and QUIT YOUR BITCHING!!! . . . . . Especially when you don’t have a clue about that which you speak!
Report thisBy Hipolito Lagares, October 22, 2006 at 11:36 am #
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Right on brother!!! This Administration has lied to the American people and the process they have trashed our Constitution and the Geneva Convention to justify their ill conceived invasion. They have even used Christianity to get into office as the moral patrol. They are traitor to our democracy and they must be removed from government.
Report thisBy Karim, October 22, 2006 at 11:31 am #
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Pat Tillman died for nothing. If Bush and Co. took the August 6, 2001 memorandum about Bin Laden planning to attack the US seriously and prevented it, Tillman and thousands more would be alive.
Report thisBy Gareth Roberts, October 22, 2006 at 11:28 am #
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First off, kudos to Kevin Tillman. Secondly, why is comment 29962 on this website. It is just a bunch of paranoid anti-semitism, links and all. It is not helpful. In fact, it furthers the image that islam is made up of a bunch of illiterate, cave-dwelling savages willing to riot and fire bomb embassies because of a few cartoons and which consequently, need be viewed with suspicion. This is of course not true. I cannot figure out why some muslims insist on blaming the jews for all their problems when the fact is that muslims have done more bad things to each other than Israel or America could ever dream of. Why no outrage at domestic repression? Certain muslims (and of course, Mel Gibson) need to stop blaming “the jews” for all the world’s wars.
Report thisBy Bill Klein, October 22, 2006 at 11:20 am #
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Dear Kevin and others,
Report this> As a Vietnam veteran, Intelligence officer,
> interrogation officer for five
> years (1962-1967) I concur with your depiction of
> our country. As a history
> major in college and a history student ever since, I
> am watching our
> country’s leaders and many of our country’s subjects
> embrace principles and
> actions of the Middle Ages in Europe, which
> continued up to and
> (unfortunately) past the Second World War. I often
> feel physically, as well
> as mentally, sick at the cold-heartedness of our
> country. Kind and
> compassionate people have a hard time combatting
> this movement because we
> will not allow ourselves to indulge in vicious,
> repulsive language or
> actions.
> Doing right and being compassionate to each person before
> us every day no matter
> what WILL ultimately prevail.
> Thank you again, Kevin and thank you Bill Nichols
> and my brother George for
> passing this on to me.
>
> Bill Klein
>
By Rolando, October 22, 2006 at 11:17 am #
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On your closing paragraph:
“Luckily this country is still a democracy.”
Unfortunately this is no longer true.
Report thisBy Cathleen Cantarella-Matheson, October 22, 2006 at 11:17 am #
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Mr Kevin Tillman,
Report thisno one in this world is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes. As a parent, God intrusted me with 3 of his angels. I gave it my best. I made mistake but my children still love me and I still love them. Your brother had a free will and you did too. No one held a gun to your head to sign up for the army. I think that your brother would be very sad if he read your writings. I was borninto a very democratic Italian family. My Grandfather severed in Europe and was placed in a concentration camp in Germany. He barely made it out alive.My Dad and all my Uncles served in all the other wars. Many of our friends and family served in the Vietnam war. Recently my nephew and mnay of my other friend’s children have served in Iraq. My husband’s partner just came back from serving a few months there. They all say the same thing “they would go back”!!!!
They also say that the news media are not telling the truth and they leave out all the good things that goes on ther. WHY!!!!!!!
I am no longer a democrat because they are not the Democrats of my grandparents. I usually vote Repbulican except I would vote for Mr. Liberman because he is of the old Democrats. I pray to God that he wins!
It is very sad that you feel this way. I know that you have had a hugh loose and I know personal what it is like to loose a family member so tragically. Just think about the Amish people and how they forgave. When my wonderful cousin Paul was shot to death in front of his home in Long Island, NY my aunt felts sorry for the parents of the men who were convicted of this crime. Our family was never the same. But do not become another cindy sheehan. She is a disgrace and traitor to our country.
may God have mercy on your soul. I will pray for you. God Bless. Cathleen Cantarella-Matheson
By victor cerny, October 22, 2006 at 11:05 am #
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Little did we know the Iraqi people would not embrace democracy. Most countries welcome democracy. Some blame should rest with the Iraqi people.
Report thisBy Alan Klein, October 22, 2006 at 11:04 am #
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Thank God for the courage, clarity, and intelligence of Kevin Tillman. Too many loved ones of this war’s casualties are compelled to defend this debacle in order to deny that their sons and daughters are victims rather than heroes. What they must realize is that they indeed are true heroes who were exploited by monstrous egos. The callous use of the truly good for one’s own selfish interests is one of the most vile deeds that can be done.
Report thisBy Alfons Olszewski, October 22, 2006 at 11:04 am #
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We openly invite you to take part in our Mission “Operation Vigilant Truth.” Among other things, we advocate a citizens’ independent investigation into the events of 9/11. As Veterans we vow to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Our principal focus and mission is to enlist the assistance of veterans from all branches of military service, but we gladly invite all patriots who want to help out and enlist in this urgent cause.
Alfons v911t
Report thisBy Gillean, October 22, 2006 at 11:02 am #
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God Bless you and your brother. Thank you for your service and sacrifice for our country. I am a veteran as well, I think that you and your brother are TRULY GREAT AMERICANS. You both put off ,fame, fortune, and safety , to go out and be warriors for our country. God Bless America.
Gillean
Report thisBy john shunick, October 22, 2006 at 11:01 am #
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Kevin,
Obviously there is nothing I can say to you concerning your brother. He and his situation speak for themselves. Loudly, and proudly. I know it is a word bandied about recklessly these days,both by the right and wrong people, and for the right and wrong reasons, bot both you and he are truly heroes. Thank you so much for speaking out. It is commendable. You recounting your conversation with Pat about being at the will of our nations leaders rang true and personal. I am an airline employee and after 9/11 I was ready to quit and enlist, finally seeing a purpose worth investing myself in. My girlfriend at the time, who was ex military, blew her top at my idea and after much heated discussion talked me out of doing it (reluctantly)for the exact same concerns you and Pat considered. Then Iraq happened. I can’t thank her enough for keeping me out and it tears me up thinking of every one who has been robbed of their life or physical or mental health because of it. I empathize deeply with your pain, though I am not even pretending to tell you I know what you are feeling. Know only this- Pat’s life was no waste and neither was your effort. I will never forget your brother ( I did meet him on a Cardinals charter. He was the quiet, polite guy reading a book studiously while the other guys watched their DVD’s and played poker.)And I can’t stop thinking of all the other tragic victims of this travesty. Bless you man, and may you somehow find peace with all that has hapenned. Thanks Again
Report thisBy Charles, October 22, 2006 at 11:00 am #
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Since Sept. 11th 2001 I began to more actively take notice of our national agenda, leadership and state of affairs compared to those around us- the world. Reading sources from other perspective than our own as well as national news services and the individuals that run our country allow me and others to find answers and learn truth. I’d hate to say we slowly deteriorated with lies, furtive motives and dissolved values at the face of failure in our overseas campaigns but the more I think about it, I guess I’d rather have that be the case than a pre-mediatated plan devised to accomplish personal and business agenda while using the heart of the American people as a call to arms. Either way, the outcome is disappointing whether it was the path there or the origin. Neither is acceptable. I hope others take up there country given right and learn for themselves about the world around them. I hope that your message has helped them to not be complacent, to not be force fed what is passed down, and to use their intelligence to change what isn’t right. Understand that not everyone is looking out for our country’s best interest, as it was founded, like our leaders say they are. Patriotism never included being a lemming, it meant standing up for what our country believed not its leaders. Thanks again for your letter and voice.
Report thisBy CAREY, October 22, 2006 at 10:59 am #
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I’m trying to remember when a Recruiter pointed a gun to my head, forcing me to sign papers, and raise my hand, taking an oath to defend my Country. Just can’t recall…sorry, gutless Libs and website.
Guess Pat’s opportunistic brother can tell us of his own experiences, right? We’re so “unlucky” to be Americans…
Spare me, Michael Moore wanna-be’s.
Report thisBy CAREY, October 22, 2006 at 10:57 am #
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Oh, spare me, Libs. This guy…a Patriot? You are living embodiments to a mockery of the word. Yeah, you’re Patriots…if this is Iran or North Korea.
You and this liberal Anti-Patriot website make me sick. You’re all gutless cowards - cry about that!
Report thisBy Michael, October 22, 2006 at 10:55 am #
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Kevin, as a retired US Marine and Vietnam veteran who was wounded three times, please accept my deepest condolences to you and your family. Somehow, from experience, I know exactly how you feel. God Bless those who still fight. May they be safe, but more impotantly, may WE bring them home soon. How about beginning NOvember 8th?
Report thisBy SSG, October 22, 2006 at 10:55 am #
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Look folks,
We’ve been there twice so far. Let’s not make it three!
I serve. I’d rather not have my boys go back because the American people don’t have the strength to finish this… just like last time.
We knew when we left; we’d be back.
Yeah, it sucks and will continue to suck. Yes, we use a lot of oil so we will continue to be there or Iran until someone can make cold fusion work or get our own.
Boy, I’d love to hear a Dem say that they want to win. Guess that’ll never happen…
Report thisBy Mary, October 22, 2006 at 10:48 am #
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Kevin, I agree with everything you have written. I feel your sorrow and rage. God Bless you, your family and your beloved brother.
Lets go to the polls and make Pats birthday the moment when we all stand up together and say, Im mad as hell and I wont take it anymore!!!!!
Mary
Report thisBy CAREY, October 22, 2006 at 10:44 am #
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Sorry…the tears I’m shedding is for this generation that’s all about giving up and looking to others, NOT themselves for responsibility.
I’ve lost friends, comrades, in this War, and I could lose my life. After my death, I WON’T my life to be “used” for Liberal Democrat LOSER purposes.
Kevin, you and Cindy should get together with those 9-11 Widows who have capitalized on their loved ones deaths. Are you going to run for Democratic office, since you support your Cut & Run brothers so?
I feel for Pat…that he died young, and that his brother, like Ms. Sheehan, has dishonored his memory.
Report thisBy Jeff, October 22, 2006 at 10:42 am #
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Kevin
How “Soviet” of you. It certainly is easy to accuse and blame with out substantiation. Illegal invasion” and “subversion of the Bill of Rights” might sound powerful but are hollow without explanation. I could just as easily say you are a fraud and an embarrassment to Pat and all of your brothers in arms, including me.
Report thisBy Sheila, October 22, 2006 at 10:36 am #
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Kevin,
I am very sorry for your loss and your family’s loss of Pat. However, I have had a loss of my own as I lost my first husband in the Gulf War. I am very disappointed you would exploit your brothers service to this country for your own polical gain right before election time. I do not think this is serving as a tribute to your brother for his birthday.
Search your heart and see what your motive could really be.
Sincerely Sheila
Wausau WI
Report thisBy Tracy, October 22, 2006 at 10:34 am #
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I have never heard or seen someone breakdown the truth of this war in such a moving and powerful way. What an excellent article! I am the wife of a soldier and have friends who husbands are on their second or third deployments. Many soldiers do not believe in this war and don’t trust the Bush Administration. Soldiers do not and can not speak truthfully and honestly about what’s happening because of what can happen to them. They chat amongts themselves about the lies the Bush administration has feed Americans. I am really proud of Kevin Tillman for seeing and speaking the truth of this situation. Thank you for expressing what many active duty soldiers are thinking but are not allowed to express publicly.
Report thisBy Evelyn, October 22, 2006 at 10:33 am #
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VOTE - VOTE - THE PERSON AND NOT THE PARTY——VOTE FOR THE PERSON WHO WILL DO WHAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WANTS———————̵ 2;———-
Report thisBy Julian Wright, October 22, 2006 at 10:31 am #
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The Last Poets said it over 30 years ago. ” It is better to die for a cause, rather than just because.” Somehow you got that. Somehow we must take this country back one ballot at a time the day after Pat’s birthday. Stay strong!
Report thisBy Celena C.S. Barton, October 22, 2006 at 10:29 am #
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I just want to say GOD bless you.
What you have written here sums up everything I couldn’t really put into words…This is a masterpiece article - and I am going to share it will everyone I know.
Thank you, Kevin.
Thank you for your words, your actions…
Thank you for everything you’ve had to go through to get you here today.
Thank you for sharing this with all of us.
... and Thank You for being a TRUE American.
hugs and God bless you and your family…
Report thisCelena & James Barton
By Leona J. Shell, October 22, 2006 at 10:27 am #
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Eloquently written. I still am so sad over Pat’s death. I have been a Cardinal fan since they were in Chicago. I shake my head in disbelief that so many continue to support this Grand Oil Party’s agenda. How did America let this happen?
Report thisBy Felicia Cathey, October 22, 2006 at 10:27 am #
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I extend my condolences to the Tilman family. I also wonder how many others have to die in the name of patriotism before we come to our senses. As George Santayana philosophized, “Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.” It seems we have forgotten Vietnam and the lessons we should have learned there. Our fearless leaders lied to us back then too! Remember good old Patrick MacNamara and the boys? Also, in the novel Catch-22, the hero Yossarian refuses to fly any more bombing missions believing that he should not have to sacrifice his life, if no one else (the bigwigs) were willing to sacrifice theirs. I certainly don’t see George W., Donald, Dick, Colin, or Condalezza, or any of their children out there in front of the troops!
Report thisBy Barbara, October 22, 2006 at 10:25 am #
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It is almost embarrassing to be an American. I have lived through WW11, Korea, Vietnam and this is the worst travesty ever. I will surely vote for anyone except an incumbent. Will this country ever be able to regain our world status and dignity!!
Report thisBy Chris Kiana Sr., Vietnam Veteran, October 22, 2006 at 10:25 am #
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All I can think of right now is of the over 58,000 military people who died for the Vietnam war that wasn’t won. How many of our Americans will die for this war overseas? Here we are living in the best of civilized times, yet people are still killing each other all over the world. We should all fight global warming and diseases instead, verses putting bullets into each other. This is just a BIG QUESTION I have…......... Who can answer this question, or will there ever be an answer to this question?
Report thisBy gph, October 22, 2006 at 10:22 am #
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I have read the comment calling Kevin a coward and a traitor and would he be saying this if Pat were alive,You people who speak this way about Kevin are totally disqusting pieces of crap.You dont have to agree with Kevin but until YOU have walked in his shoes then Shut up you are a disgrace to this country and everything the men and women in uniform represent.Kevin thank You for writing this and My heart goes out to You and Yur family.
Report thisBy Kathy Mitchell, October 22, 2006 at 10:20 am #
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Dear Kevin,
I hope you don’t read this and ignore the ignorant comments posted by some people in response to your touching and honest letter. My heart is full of compassion for you. My daughter was my best friend, too and died a year and a half ago. The memories still haunt me. I tried to make changes in our community so other people would find help and not suffer her fate. I know about the endlessness of the pain you suffer. I’m sorry that you have lost your brother and his companionship in your life. You are both heros. The people who write critical comments to you here certainy have that right. Just remember that it was your brother’s and your own bravery that sought to preserve that right for them. It’s so sad that they don’t understand how you feel cheated that your brother died in this cause and they are too stupid to realize or appreciate it. My heart cries with yours.
With much love, gratitude and hopes for your peace,
Kathy
Report thisBy Reynolds, October 22, 2006 at 10:08 am #
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Thank you so much for your courage. You nailed everything dead on. We must stand up and take action, finally…
Report thisBy Howard, October 22, 2006 at 10:03 am #
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Dear Kevin and Family,
My deepest heartfelt regret goes out to you and your family for it’s loss.
Report thisFrom the start of the Iraq war I have spoken my mind against the war and the errors of those that are running our country have made.
I find it funny that we have people that have never served our country willing to gamble with the lives of those that are currently serving our country. Too often do I talk to people in the suburbs (where I live) that support the unjust war in Iraq, but they will never send their sons or daughters to fight in that very same war.
Since when did dissension become so unpatriotic? Since when did questioning your leaders become baseless? I have served my country while in the Navy 93’-97’ and have learned that it is and extension of my duty to question those people that call themselves representing our country.
You speak of apathy.I have lived with this disgust. I have listened to the people (who voted for Bush and his cronies) make excuse after excuse for the people making poor decision after poor decision. These are the same people that will not send their sons or daughters into harms way. My position on this is simple. It’s time for them to send their children in harms way and we will then see how they react to the policies of this country. If this was to happen we would see a polar shift in the way things are done in this country. Or if we made it mandatory for people to serve at least two years in the military I can guarantee that we would see a shift in how things are done, especially when it comes to sending our people into harms way. The average American citizen wouldn’t be so relaxed about the policies that this administration has been allowed to enact without congressional consent. I will tell you Kevin I am with you about November 7th. It’s time to let our voices be heard, it’s time to make some changes. Let’s truly lift “every voice” and sing.”
By Renee Murray, October 22, 2006 at 10:03 am #
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Thank you so much for saying what is in your heart - and mine. I have shared this with a lot of people of like mind, and not so like mind. If it causes even one person to vote against this corrupt and immoral administration, you have done your job and I will keep trying to do mine.
I’m 77 years old and this is the worst administration in my lifetime. All I can hope for is “Never Again”.
Report thisBy Arizona girl, October 22, 2006 at 9:59 am #
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Mr. Tillman,
Thank you so much for having the courage to say these things that have to be said. While too many believe they shouldn’t question the government, it is actually more patriotic to challenge the government’s harmful policies.
As a girl from Arizona, I just want you to know that there are many who share your beliefs. And I am deeply saddened by your family’s loss and how the government has treated your brother’s death and the investigation.
Again, I thank you for your courage.
Report thisBy John Lindholm, October 22, 2006 at 9:52 am #
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With teary eye, I sit here and read Kevins sentiments, one who has been there, done that, and a member of a family who knows the price all too many have paid on all sides of conflict in Iraq as well as Afghanistan. In the case of Pat, such as waste of a guy who really wanted to make a difference. In the case of Kevin, it is tragic that his quest to awaken our fellow countrymen from the apathy is the result of such a personal loss.
It seems that the Afghanistan confrontation was truly warranted since the executioner who also chose to awaken America but did it by means of the 9/11 massacre had chosen Afghanistan as his temple on earth. As well, the Taliban certainly did not do much to enhance the worlds pursuit of domestic tranquility, thus the efforts remove verifiable vestiges of terror were justifiable.
Certainly, the Iraq leadership was no friend of the Bush family. At one point, the Iraqis had weapons of mass destruction. As Senator Bird testified before congress, of course they once had weapons of mass destruction as he held up the shipping invoice for materials that the US had actually provided them when our national leadership felt that they needed assistance to fight Iran.
The former Iraqi leadership may have needed changing but that should have happened through a natural Iraqi process and not at the whim of a foreign power, us.
Somehow, are we to believe that centuries of Iraqi tradition, governance and culture were going to change over-night just because we decided that they needed democracy and a secular government. How is this to be accomplished? Are we going to collectively un-crew the heads of the Iraqi people, re-format their mental processor and give them a value system and standard of life courtesy of US dictation? What is the reaction here in the US when others try to tell us who to live? Right or wrong, good or bad, we are foreigners in Iraq and as well intended as the help may or not be we will always be viewed as foreigners. In the eyes of the Iraqi, we may have done a good thing getting rid of the dictator, but it seems that their wish is that we now leave.
We must each answer the question for ourselves, was all the stated Iraqi war justifications reality or is the possibility of securing unfettered access to Iraqi oil the prime US Administration interest?
If no other lesson was learned from the Vietnam experience, the realization that people committed to self-rule, protect their way of life and culture is an unstoppable force. As history has indicated, any government we fashion to our liking that is seen as a US puppet and does not have the support of the governed will soon collapse. Occupiers may control society short-term but eventually, local rule is return in whatever form the indigenous population decides.
When brothers fight (Sunni / Shiite), wow to the those who interdict for they will soon will be the one facing the brotherhood that will set aside their differences long enough to get rid of the common menace, then return to the original confrontation until it is decided on their own terms. This is human nature. Are we going to referee this internal Iraqi squabble forever?
It seems that the sixties / seventies have returned once more when people should question what is being done in the name of the American people. The annals of history illustrate the follies of other regimes, eventually demonized by the world, that captured the emotions and fears of the people and then lead them on the warring path to ruin. We need to wake up, smell the stupidity for what it is and return some integrity back into the leadership of our nation, re-empower the people, not big business and check the unlimited abuse of power that now exists.
Our military is our nations greatest watchdog and deserves every change to be successful that we can give them. It was once said, There are no good wars, but unfortunately the need stills exists for the lives of good men to be used as a buffered against bad men for the worst of men must fight and the best of men must do the dying.
With our military fighting a prolonged war that has no end in sight, our nation becomes less and less able to contain other hotspots that could pose a more eminent threat to our comfortable status quo. Can anyone actually be so naive as to believe that the US is now safer since we invaded Iraq for the second time? As would anywhere else in the world, the scars of war fought on the Iraqi homeland will not go away quickly. If anything, they provide a real good reason to hate the USA for generations to come, not to mention the rest of the Arab world.
Unfortunately, since the downfall of the former Soviet Union, the bilateral balance of power is now non-existent. Many of the ethnic feuds that were kept in check have surfaced and flared up. As in the Wizard of Oz, the cloak is off for the US and we are now seen as just another schoolyard bully throwing its weight around and not the champion of truth and righteousness anymore. Similar to the Vietnam conflict, those less powerful have found a way to flight on their terms and not ours. Many of those who were once kept at bay are now energized to perpetrate their dirty deeds with less and less fear of the might of the US.
At times, force needs to back up diplomatic resolve but should be used judiciously. When scrutiny of the governmental policies that lead the Iraqi fiasco was required, where was our congressional leadership? Rally around the flag is a great strength of the American people but also a great weakness when emotions out weigh thoughtful consideration. Where was the congressional leadership that is entrusted by the constitution to serve as a counterbalance to over zealous abuse of power? Were they more concerned with the perception of the public that they might be weak or unpatriotic if they questioned the Presidential determination to invade Iraq contrary to international opinion and advise, less interested in serving the nation and the constitution which once governed the land and more interested in their own self-preservation / re-election?
Soon, a moment of truth will be in the hands of our fellow countrymen when they have an opportunity to vote. Let us hope that accountability will be returned to the American vocabulary and that everyday Americans will take interest in the tasks that their sons and daughters are directed to undertake in our name and also take note of those who put them in harms way recklessly.
Report thisBy Global Citizen, October 22, 2006 at 9:52 am #
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Kevin; I got the feeling you wanted that piece reproduced in it’s entirety on every blog in America. I was happy to oblige.
Thank you for crystalizing perfectly what I have been raging about for five years.
I am the wife of a retired USAF officer, the daughter of a retired Chief Petty Officer, and the sister of a retired Lt. Colonel.
My family is devoted to debunking the myth that everyone in the military is a Republican by default.
Report thisBy Terry, October 22, 2006 at 9:49 am #
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If undermining your country and the values that your brother died for is a good thing, then I guess you should be applauded. I am sorry for your loss, but I am sad for you. Nobody made you a former Ranger, but you. Nobody made your brother a Ranger in harms way, but him. Perhaps you are happy to take a sideline, but I would happily return to the battle if I were able. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy?
Report thisBy Brad Spencer, October 22, 2006 at 9:49 am #
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Kevin
If you think the posts on this site supporting your view is indicative of the American public then run for office. If you win - you can start implementing the change you desire. I would caution you not to believe for one second that these well-menaing posts represent the vast majority of soldiers, veterans or Americans.
If you are writing a piece to honor your brother; then write a piece to honor your brother. When you sell this piece, it becomes just another liberal wrant that offers no solutions to a difficult situation.
The only thing you have accomplished is directing site visits to an obscure web-site.
Fool me once….
Report thisBy Carla, October 22, 2006 at 9:45 am #
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War, civil disobediance, government corruption, etc… has been, is now and will forever be a part of each of our lives. Those that suffer the most are usually the low and working class and those that believe in their principals to the point that when events like 9/11 happen, they are the first to put their lives on the line. Does this mean that we should ACCEPT government manipulation…certainly NOT. That is hopefully why each of us VOTES. This is OUR world…each one of us. Stand up for what you believe and what is right for you and your time on this Earth. That is what Kevin has done. BRAVO!
Report thisBy K, October 22, 2006 at 9:45 am #
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We need to somehow take this county back from the oil pigs who corrupted it,, those are the true enemys…
Report thisBy john, October 22, 2006 at 9:45 am #
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Dear Kevin,
Thank you for your powerful and truthful words.
I hope the heartless people who attack your character and have the audacity to claim to mourn your losses more than you will someday develop a conscience.
Report thisBy Aiden Rocke, October 22, 2006 at 9:43 am #
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Hey Kevin,
Thanks for serving our country. We appreciate everything you and your brother have done for us.
I try to capture some of what you are talking about in my book Rogue Threat, though it is fiction.
As a fellow Soldier, I mourn your brother’s loss and honor him while I currently serve in Afghanistan.
Stay safe,
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By Winston, October 22, 2006 at 9:39 am #
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Now that you know 9-11 was an inside job*, no one in your family should ever make the fatal mistake of believing the govmt again.
Report this*Pearl Harbor was a rigged up event too by the way, Roosevelt knew about the attack in advance. Google “terror storm” and click Video and see for yourself. Fake attacks are how the govt gets the less educated to fight in their phony wars.
By Brett Celinski, October 22, 2006 at 9:38 am #
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The trolls can’t bring any arguments against this piece. There aren’t any. Let them sit behind and pray for more government at the expense of freedom while they fail to sign up themselves. Let them pay their own taxes, sign up and volunteer themselves, and keep this insane war off our backs.
Report thisBy John, October 22, 2006 at 9:38 am #
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My heart goes to Pat tillman’s family.
About the war… I mean the illegal and inmoral war against Islam and the people or Iraq and Afghanistan I would like to say is just that, the war is ILLEGAL AND INMORAL. SADLY, OUR SOLDIERS WILL PAY THE PRICE WITH THEIR LIFES IN VEIN…Finally, DEMOCRACY AND COMMUNISM ARE THE SAME Those in power are they ones who decide and have the final say where our soldiers go and die.
Thank you.
Report thisBy Dan, October 22, 2006 at 9:36 am #
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So, how much is the book deal? I hope you’re at least getting a lot seeing as how you have totally disgraced your brother’s memory. As a former Marine, I find your comments so typical of a cut and run democrat. As long as everyone is treating you like a hero, you’re in the game. However, as soon as there is a REAL price for doing what your country asks, it’s all of a sudden “ILLEGAL”. I don’t necessarily agree with everything our country is involved in, nor did I when I was in the Marine Corps, but I signed a contract that said I would defend our country, and I didn’t question what our commander-in-chief said. That sir is the beginning of the un-raveling. You dishoner yourself, your country, the United States Army and most of all your brother by writing what you did. It seems you’ve found out how profitable Cindy Sheehan has made her son’s death and decided to follow suit. You are pathetic and sad.
Report thisBy T.G. Fisher, October 22, 2006 at 9:33 am #
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Kevin Tillman is about to learn part of the answer to an important question: “How many have been persecuted for committing the unconscionable
Report thiswrong of being right?”
By Sheriff Demetri, October 22, 2006 at 9:32 am #
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What about running yourself for office. You’ve given up more than enough of yourself and now you can do something about it.
Report thisBy Jose Amram, October 22, 2006 at 9:32 am #
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Dear Kevin:
Report thisExcellent and eloquent writing, you have voiced the feelings of many of us who supported the initial action in Afghanistan, but who could not rationalize invading Iraq, no matter how malevolent saddam hussein was. One was self defense, the other an outright invasion followed by occupation. Now the troops and their families are paying a heavy price, not the ‘leadership’ in the White House. We have indeed met the enemy, and it is us…
With best regards,
Jose Amram
By Dave Johnson, October 22, 2006 at 9:30 am #
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What a sad, beautiful counter to the modern Karl Rove reality! You know, the one where decorated and disabled combat veterans are cowards and Viet Nam era draft dodgers are heroes. Many than