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If YOU, as a HETEROSEXUAL, were made aware every day of your life that your natural feelings were wrong, sick, dirty, disgusting, degrading, evil… etc., etc., etc., just how HAPPY or SUCCESSFUL WOULD YOU LIKELY BE IN YOUR ADULT INTIMATE RELATIONS? (If you can’t or won’t answer, then don’t bother to read further… you’re not mature enough to understand.)
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If by “adult intimate relations” you mean “sex outside marriage,” then, since that IS wicked (so they DO say), it would be right to feel ashamed of such behavior, and refrain from committing it. To be “happy” or “successful” in the pursuit of the forbidden, what is contrary to moral law, is precisely what you say: “wrong, sick, dirty, disgusting, degrading, evil… etc.”

“natural feelings”?

Rose Sayer: “Nature,” Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.

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well, i have not yet seen this movie and waiting for it but , i feel that this movie is showing that face of truth of world which many are not ready to accept.
        I, have met few gay people by myself and i realised that this relation have to be excepted as this is the same love that we praise but for a person of same kind. At last i want to say that i admire and laud the work of “Ang lee” being an asian and “Heath leadger “( my fav.)  and also “Jake gyllenhaal” for their dedication & courage.

Talk about not daring to speak something’s name!  All along I have been hearing about a movie featuring two gay cowboys, then it turns out that they were not cowboys after all but sheepherders.  Now the memory of my cowboy icon is safe, Randolph Scott.

I hadn’t seen the film when I wrote my first comment.

After viewing it on DVD, I wish to address the issue of the pain experienced by these two men.

Where does it come from?

Before you rush in like fools to dump crap such as “fags are sick” or “it’s not normal” or “it’s against God’s laws” let me ask a question:

If YOU, as a HETEROSEXUAL, were made aware every day of your life that your natural feelings were wrong, sick, dirty, disgusting, degrading, evil… etc., etc., etc., just how HAPPY or SUCCESSFUL WOULD YOU LIKELY BE IN YOUR ADULT INTIMATE RELATIONS? (If you can’t or won’t answer, then don’t bother to read further… you’re not mature enough to understand.)

The pain experienced by these men was not caused by their love for one another. It was DIRECTLY caused by the IGNORANCE, IMMATURITY and PREJUDICE of those in the society around them which prevented them from learning how to deal appropriately with their different-from-the-majority feelings.

Gays and lesbians, and others who don’t fit some imaginary “norm” in society, are MADE SICK by those who can’t or won’t educate themselves to the realities of human life. Then, once these folk become mentally ill or unable to cope in a myriad of other ways, it’s just so easy to point and say, “See, homosexuality is a sickness” when in reality, it’s no more sick or unusual than being left-handed.

Remember what “we” used to do to people who were left-handed? Perhaps we’ll all grow up just a little to get past the anti-gay notions too. We can hope, anyway.

BTW, these guys weren’t COWBOYS… those animals in the film were SHEEP!

There are few things that generate disappointment in me as much as witnessing a coward’s actions when he or she is faced with a challenge.

I don’t know Larry Miller or why the schedule was changed. If the reason is as reported, and Mr. Miller has no reasonable explanation, for example, the actual film wasn’t physically available to the Megaplex on time, then we’re left to conclude that Mr. Miller’s actions are those we’d expect of an ignorant, snivelling, homophobic, sleazy, cowardly censor.

I wonder who from the Tabernacle whispered sweet nothings in his ear?

SALT LAKE CITY - A movie theater owned by Utah Jazz owner Larry Miller abruptly changed its screening plans and decided not to show the film “Brokeback Mountain.” The film, an R-rated Western gay romance story, was supposed to open Friday at the Megaplex at Jordan Commons in Sandy, a suburb of Salt Lake City. Instead it was pulled from the schedule.

- But he is showing the movie Hostel, the mormons have no problem with Blood, killing and horror, but they have a problem with gays. I am sorry for my self that I live in SLC.

I was just bored to tears and couldn’t wait for the movie to be over.  My friend thought it was wonderful.

I’ve seen the film 3 times, read the book twice, and have the sound track in my car.  I can’t shake the damn thing.  I even felt unfaithful to it when I went to see another movie!  I’m no cowboy.  I have never been married.  I am (I think) a well-adjusted gay man, well into my seventies, and yet I feel in my heart that this is my story.  My heartbreak.  My frustration.  My love.  So how do I quit it?

“(Will) it play well in the rest of the country, say, Dubuque,Iowa…?”

I live in Dubuque, just up the road from mainstream America, and I’m one half of an older (some would say ancient) straight couple. 

If I don’t see “Brokeback Mountain” it won’t be because the movie is too gay or not gay enough.  It will be because a) it never makes it to Dubuque, which is entirely possible, or (b) I just don’t do emotional overload very well.

Reading that this movie will break my heart, wring my soul, make me cry, push me to stand (even momentarily) in a field overflowing with thoughts of love, desire, regret, sorrow, betrayal,and heartbreak—then haunt me afterward—may just be enough to scare me off. 

On the other hand, I’d hate to miss it.

I know Sheerly Avni has her tongue planted firmly in cheek in the ‘breathy-girlie’ paragraph above, but was it really necessary—esp. to say, even in jest, that a woman guaranteed her boyfriend he’d get laid for seeing the film w. her???

Also, to say that Ang Lee’s career is hit-or-miss is way off the mark.  The list of films he’s directed is generally stellar.  I haven’t seen every one of his films but I HAVE five or so & thought highly of all of them.

I do agree with her closing paragraphs in which she finally gets around to talking, not about her own anticipation of what the film would be, but rather the content of the film.  The film is masterful.  My own blog review is linked to this comment.

I just saw the movie yesterday afternoon, and the house was packed for a 12:45 showing.  The crowd was mainly older, and had lots of straight couples.  There were gay couples also, and lots of single men attending, gay or straight I don’t know.  I think the movie was very good, but I think the love scenes could of been a little more shocking and controversial.  The main tent scene was over so fast, it left me a little dissapointed.  We have been so overwhelmed with mainstream movies and the intense hetero scenes, and even the ones in this movie seemed more intimately driven then the actual cowboy love scenes.  I was wanting to see more passion between the two lovers, i think it’s time to see that in movies.  Besides that, I am totally pleased with the movie in general.  I am still haunted by the last scene.  The sorrow, betrayal, heartbreak, makes one wonder how Ennis could continue his life.  I hope in all this film will help change the streotypes of all gay men and women, and help pave the way for a bright future for all of us.  I trully thank Ang Lee for this beautiful love story.  We all just want acceptance in our lives.  Love, no matter what shape or form should always take precedence in the end.  By the way, please forgive my spelling and grammar. LOL.

I certainly am looking forward to seeing the movie, even if the publicity photos never show them touching or even looking each other in the eye. And as for whether this flick will fly “in the heartland,” let’s reword this: “will it fly with some straights in the heartland?”

As a lesbian, I long for a mainstream love story between two women, with a halfway functional relationship, hopefully played by lesbian actors. And let’s toss into it that they are life long lesbians, not LOLs (lesbians come lately) or married or previously married.

Ah yes, and if you believe this will happen any time soon, I have a refrigerator to sell you, Mr. Inuit.

Naomi

I was fortunate enough to read the story in the New Yorker years ago.  I was further fortunate to see a screening with Annie Proulx (thanks to KCRW radio).

The movie - is true to the story.  While this may be a work of fiction, it borders perilously close, if not over the edge, of truth.  This is not the love that “dares not speak its name”, rather it is the love that sees no possible way to exist. 

It is a VERY powerful film and story.  It is NOT easy to watch - but it does compel you and it is great! 

I think straight men will see it, and they will even understand it, more, they will be touched by it, as will all who see it.

Eric

“(Will) it play well in the rest of the country, say, Dubuque,Iowa…?”

I live in mainstream America, just down the road from Dubuque.  My high school students are eager see the movie - yes, they know what it’s about -and so am I.

I heard Ang Lee speak a few months ago after a screening of the movie.  He’s incredibly articulate (if not long-winded) and probably one of the most interesting people in the elite Hollywood director’s club.  Lee explained that Anne Hathaway was having a hard time preparing for a pivotal scene in the movie, essentially because she is so young and she was playing a woman old enough to be her own mother.  I dont recall his exact words, but the gist of the direction he gave to Hathaway was “Go to your Brokeback Mountain…everyone has a Brokeback Mountain”.  The image Lee invoked for Hathaway, and subsequently every person in the audience, touched me so deeply that I started to cry.  For an instant, I was standing in a field overflowing with thoughts of love, desire, and regret.  Truth be told, most of us cannot “go to our Titanic”, which is undoubtedly a good thing.  However, try to find one among us who has not seen the life-changing view from atop Brokeback.  Straight or Gay.  We’ve all been there.

The question for Ang Lee if he wants to break even on his investment is not whether it plays well in San Francisco or reviewed by some gal who lives in San Francisco and thinks that a packed San Francisco theater (filled with mostly gays) but whether it will play well in the rest of the country, say, Dubuque,Iowa. I know that “the rest of the country” really doesn’t matter to those where the media makes its headquarters, New York, Los Angeles…but there is a rest of the country.

I doubt that mainsteam America will rush out to see this movie. I mean if Ms. Avni needs to promise her boyfriend a piece to get him to go watch it than there is something wrong with her and her girlfriends’ mentality, but then the rest of America knows this to be true of most that would want to watch it.

I am looking forward to seeing this movie.  The question, ‘is it GAY enough?’ is a disturbing one.  Maybe a better question would be, ‘Is it attempting to fulfill the media driven gay stereotype?”  Hopefully the answer is NO.  One thing that may help with negative gay stereotypes is not referring to gay men as ‘Queer’.  This equates to women calling themselves ‘_itches’, and blacks calling themselves the ‘n’ word.  Even if many gay folks are still dealing with self hate, it would help everyone if our media did not perpetuate such negative stereotypes.