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‘Why We Fight’ Director on the American Way of War

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Posted on Dec 4, 2008
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Filmmaker Eugene Jarecki speaks with Truthdig’s Kasia Anderson about his new book, whether Obama can deliver, and why the U.S. is like Elvis.

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By Fahrenheit 451, December 8, 2008 at 2:44 am #

@ Ed Harges, December 7 at 9:43 am;

I agree, but with an exception: You say..“a greedy, bullying, land-grabbing, irresponsible cowboy cleptocracy, peopled by a proudly ignorant and jingoistic rabble, at least from the time of the Mexican War and the Spanish-American war.”
Didn’t that behavior start the minute we set foot on the continent?

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By oujiQualm34, December 7, 2008 at 5:46 pm #

I love the Movie Why We Fight, and have shown it to thousands of students and propagated it all over the net.

I would also like to mention a new book endorsed by Daniel Ellsberg and JFK insider Marcus Raskin JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and WHy It Matters.

This book convinced Ellsberg to change his mind and agree with the authors argument that the Assassination was a CIA plot.

Yet, it is not a book about the Assassination.

It is a book about Cold War foreign and domestic policy and the last imagined “fork in the road”.  It is so imporatant right now because we need to know NOW if a president really controlls foreign policy and can he end a war if he wants to.

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By Ed Harges, December 7, 2008 at 2:43 pm #

I differ with the “fat Elvis” metaphor.

America’s arc is not one from young beacon of goodness to decadent old bully.

What I see is a country that became a greedy, bullying, land-grabbing, irresponsible cowboy cleptocracy, peopled by a proudly ignorant and jingoistic rabble, at least from the time of the Mexican War and the Spanish-American war.

Then the US began to try to become something better, in fits and starts, during the decades after the Great Depression.

Now the US is simply reverting to type and going back to being its old nasty self, but made more ridiculous because of our economic ruin and the persistence of our “Shining City on a Hill” pretensions.

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By Ham-Archy, December 7, 2008 at 2:20 pm #

Gurfinkle, Folktruther; Well put. So it seems that soon there will be an awakening. The sweet dreams and dilusions will fade fast. Push WILL come to shove. Jarecki speaks of Civic Action. When this resolves there will be an interrelation between that and the Trilateral Commission. One that requires great attention to detail and constitution. One that requires a spirit, as Jarecki says, that has been dormant for about 200 years.

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By Wood, December 6, 2008 at 3:34 pm #

” War is the ” fly swatter ” of the Illuminati and you are the fly on the their dinner table.”

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By JFKliberal, December 6, 2008 at 5:26 am #

War is generally the result of inner conflicts in the individual,  which cause confusion in themselves and society.

Power and prosperity, come— when these conflicts— are resolved by a truthful acceptance of reality.

And the reality of the world is that “non violence”  is the most powerful force in the universe.

As soon as man accepts this basic fundamental truth of our humanity; then peace will be in the world.

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By Folktruther, December 6, 2008 at 4:54 am #

I agreewith Allen that it is better to deal with reality, no matter how unpleasant.  Nevertheless, it is quite true that in regard to the issues, the American population is far to the left of the power structure.

The problem is that people want to be on the side of power, the winning side in an election.  It validates a person: ‘I’m a winner.’  This power need joins with the inherited party allegiance and personality appear to swamp issues.  Which in any case, since both candidates are supported by the power struture, do not vary much.

The winning side is the side that gains the most media, money and management, all of these power reources largely controlled by the power struture.  To gain the feeling of being a winner, to being powerful, consequently requires the person to identify with his own oppression. 

He identifies with political leaders who are bought and paid for by the power struture, who maintain the deceptive posture that they will promote the interests of the population.  What provides emotional gratification leads to intellectual bondage.  The population is emotionally tricked into identifying with power rather than the population ruled by power.

This need to identify with power is a biological-cultural force inculcated in childhood.  It is responsible for the identification with the power delusions that the powerful instill to legitimate their power.  These religious, politial and scientific delusions are manipulated by the powerful to keep the population subjugated, devided, and deceived.

What is necessary, therefore, is to make the populations issues and values emotionally powerful.  And this must be done when the entire learned and mass media is largely controlled by the powerful.  This consequently requires an historical period to complete.

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By Steve E, December 6, 2008 at 1:22 am #
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As the Chimp stood on an aircraft carrier with the banner ” Mission Accomplished ” as a backdrop, his approval rating was 95%. The same phenomenon evolved when Hitler was on a rampage. Americans love to win and flex their might while tossing the rule book aside as well as their conscience. Now they run to Obama to fix everything. They will be sorely disappointed. Its so fitting that their consumer society is crumpling around them as the greedy are rewarded by the so called common citizen known as the taxpayer through funny money bailouts. The USA wanted blood after 9/11 and they got it. Hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis were offered up as a sacrifice to the Oil God. The worst is yet to come as CNN and its glamourous talking heads sooth the truth about all the debauchery. See The USA In Your Chevrolet. God you are a foul bunch. Just a bunch of suckers.

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By tp, December 5, 2008 at 12:29 pm #
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Can’t add much to Allen Gurfinkle’s assessment.
But, I have a dream. It is the American Dream. It is the same nightmare with which, I think, ‘we’ the people are collectively haunted. All somehow see themselves, one day, sitting on top of a mountain of money. I have yet to see the other side from that mountain top. The mountain is too high because it consists of money printed by the Federal Reserve, which is nothing more than a phantom or mirage printed by a group of privately owned banks. Those bills they print are only worth what—- not only of what the American dreamers think of them but—- what the world thinks of them. Now days they don’t think much of the only product made in America any more which is counterfeit money printed by the Federal Reserve Banks.
I’m sick and tired of getting sick and tired.
tp

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By Allan Gurfinkle, December 5, 2008 at 12:43 am #
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I had to stop listening when Jarecki said that the American people had expressed themselves bluntly (his word) on the Iraq war, wanting it to end, and health care, wanting universal coverage.  In fact the American people, in particular the Democrats, did have a chance to express themselves in favor of these ideas, but the candidates that carried these banners, Kucinich and Gravel, couldn’t buy a vote.

Given a vote, the liberal half of the electorate voted for a big smile, nothing more.  Their interest in ending the war was marginal, their interest in health care was marginal.  This is the FACT.

The Republicans also had a chance to express their desire to see the Iraq war end in the primary, and to rein out of control US militararism, but, Ron Paul could not buy a vote.

Chomsky takes this same line, that the American people are far to the ‘left’ of the political system, but the fact of the last Democratic and Republican primaries show that this idea too is a fantasy (regardless of polls).

Its better to deal with reality, no matter how unpleasant.  The American people have shown themselves to be completely compliant to the whims of the ruling class.  Ready to fight any war anywhere at a moments notice.  Willing to see millions without health care. Willing to watch their very selves be bankrupted to bail out the ruling class.  Willing to see the constitution shredded to capture an imaginary enemy.

So, what is a plan?  Actually, I have one but it’s too hopeless to mention.

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