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The Lose-Lose War

Posted on Jun 12, 2007
Dr. Dahlia Wasfi

Dr. Dahlia Wasfi joins Robert Scheer and James Harris to discuss the past, present and future of the Iraq war. Wasfi, who has twice visited Iraq during the occupation, says it is only a matter of time and casualties before the U.S. leaves: “It’s really simple: You bring the troops home, they stop dying there.”

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By Dennis, November 14, 2009 at 10:47 am Link to this comment
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The Americans don’t want the TRUTH…..The Politicans JUST WANT THE OIL at ANY COST

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By Ed, August 31, 2007 at 9:25 am Link to this comment
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Absolutely fantastic. Why can’t we get Dr. Dahlia Wasfi on the radio/TV over here in the UK? It would be a real change of pace for the BBC to air arguments like this on their current affairs programmes especially when put by such an intelligent and formiddable speaker.

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By David Dixit, July 28, 2007 at 9:28 am Link to this comment
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If only more Americans would listen to this woman…

When will Americans understand that their ‘culture’ and way of life is not eagerly sought after the world over ? From your cheap ersatz food to your military might, please go home and stay there!

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By shaz, July 3, 2007 at 12:44 pm Link to this comment
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more war crimes

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By HelenL, June 30, 2007 at 7:40 pm Link to this comment
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I agree with Dr Wasfi, and that is that we need to get out. We have spent millions on the effort to rebuild Irag and we are still hated, even more then before. The suffering that the Iragi people were subjected to by Sadam Hussian was quote their “civilization” and their way of life, and preferred over the US intervention. We need to bring our service people back home and invest our money back into our government. We need to give them their lives back, as quickly as possible. In the future America needs to realize that our definition of civilization and humanity are not the same as in other countries, and they prefer their life as it is.
I agree with Dr. Wasfi, we need to take care of Americans. Stop supporting those who are Anti-American.

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By cann4ing, June 23, 2007 at 12:48 am Link to this comment

What an impressive interview!  Dr. Wasfi’s superior intellect, her ability to speak truth to power, her ability to convey the reality that is the “unmitigated disaster” our nation has wrought should be, but unfortunately will not be, broadcast over every major network in the United States.  And therein lies the real problem.

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By Danny Quintana, June 21, 2007 at 11:33 pm Link to this comment
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Both parties and the American people are to blame for the war. There is a defense contractor and/or a military installation in every community, every congressional district within two hours of every major city in America. Unions work for defense contractors. Families work at military bases and pressure their congressman to keep them open. Universities receive funding from the Department of Defense. The passive media won’t even show the reality of the war. And both parties voted overwhelmingly for the war. Senator Robert Byrd warned everyone. But no one listened.

This one was in the cards. Even if the Supreme Court had not installed bush as Emperor, we still would have gone to war in the Middle East. Saddam wanted to convert to the Euro was one reason. The silly man thought he actually ruled his country. The main reason for this conflict is control of the global economy by controlling the oil supplies. I have no idea how much oil is being stolen. Nobody knows except those in charge. The evidence indicates that the oil fields were seized by our special forces before the invasion!

The most recent mid-term elections voters demanded an end to the war. So what happens? The Democrats get bought off with pork and continue the war funding. When we drive our SUV’s to our kid’s soccer games, we need salute the flag and remember the young men and women who are fighting for our right to conspiciously consume energy.

No, this is not just a bush administration policy gone bad. This is Pax Americana and all of us need to look in the mirror and honestly admit our small part. Gore denys we would have gone into Iraq under his rule. But where was he when the sanctions were killing children? Where was he when Clinton decided upon “regime change”? The military industrial complex and their congressional allies wanted a war. .... and they got one. Did we really believe that the 400,000 now suddenly unemployed Iraqi army would not fight back when they had weapons, training and an intense hatred of the US? Anyone remember the slaughter of the “highway of death” where our troops killed Iraqi troops walking back to Baghdad after withdrawing from Kuwait? Americans of both parties demanded regime change. Now we have religious fundamentalists alligned with Iran in power in Iraq, wow. You could not scriptsuch a total and complete disaster. All of us played our part. Let’s be honest here. All of us are responsible for this war. And all of us have the responsibility to end it.

Danny Quintana
author of Pax Americana, The Military Industrial Complex and the War on Terror, free online at

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By James R. Crosby, June 20, 2007 at 9:27 pm Link to this comment
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Any intelligent American, hell, any intelligent person in world knows that this is a Bush and Bush Administration War, period.  This administration has it’s Army in Iraq, murdering People daily, thousands of them a month, meanwhile private Contractor’s are stealing Iraqi oil every day.  So we have an American Government that is nothing more that a bunch of murderers and thiefs. And, of course, the real problem with all of this is the future. 
I believe that as an American and and as a Historian, we are now at the zenith of our civilization.  This is the American Golden Age.  Have fun now, because it will not last.  The American Empire is at present the richest and most powerful nation in the world.  Later this century that will change.  Arab governments have been trying to get their hands on thermal nuclear devices for over fifty years now.  It is only a matter of time before this happens.  Once the Arabs get the bomb, they will use it and Isreal will be targeted. 
This will be the beginning of the end for American influence in the Middle East.

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By cyrena, June 15, 2007 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment

This is ABSOLUTELY THE BEST!!!! Mr. Scheer, Mr. Harris and Dr. Wasfi, this just puts it all together so incredibly well. What a great job, of putting this in all in the way that Americans need to hear, to UNDERSTAND the “why”. The history of how this all really is. Dahlia, I’ve adopted you as my ideological daughter. I’ve been trying to share this information in bits and pieces in the past several years, to try and bridge this mentality gap in our collective society. It’s a hard task, (especially since we can’t control others, that made me laugh) but this interview is something that should be on the top of the “curriculum” for a re-training of the average American, because we NEED TO KNOW -ALL- of this stuff. I’m sending it along, to make sure that nobody misses this free education. (It’s taken me 4 years and lots of tuition to put all of this stuff together…here it is in one free talk!) What a gift!

Bravo and thanks!!!

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By Vrnda, June 13, 2007 at 11:12 am Link to this comment
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Thanks Dahlia- keep speaking the truth!
We love you.
V- Another Mother For Peace

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