Dennis is just about the only politician in whom I put any trust. He understands what is going on. We’ve lost our country and Dennis is the only one left who gives a damn about that and the plight of the common man/woman. I wish we could have 534 more of Dennis, but we can’t. Alas, the United States of America is lost. The dream is foundered and the world is poorer for it. It was a noble experiment.

Well Dennis,

Some of us remember your nauseating performance shilling for John Kerry at the convention.  Are we headed for an exact repeat in 2008?

You gather the “anti-war” people under the banner of your pro-war, fascist party, therefore cutting off third party challenges on behalf of corporate interests which fund the party.

I’ll allow that you’re probably sincere about peace.  If so, where are your articles of impeachment after numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity by this most criminal of administrations?

Not donig everything you possibly can for peace, are you?

I also remember how September 11th,and a massive cover up didn’t seem to bother you.  You were more concerned with steroids in baseball than the Bush administration deliberately allowing the 9-11 attacks to happen.  Where were you when Cyntha McKinney was hosting a conference on omissions in the September 11th commisssion report?

If you really cared about world peace, you would leave this criminall complicit party controlled by warmongers, and mount your own 3rd party challenge.  The legitimacy of you party and of the entire system is nil.  This is a plutocracy, not a democracy.  And you are an integral part of it.  You put the smiling, peaceful face on a party of ruthless scum and murderers.

We hear how Bush has murdered 650,000 Iraqi civilians. 

We never hear much how Clinton murdered twice that amount through biological weapons in the form of sanctions.

That’s your party at work, Dennis.  Don’t pretend otherwise.

John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State:
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/

Go Dennis!!!!

If you can continue to forcefully articulate your message over the coming months, you will have this “independent’s” vote and many others.  Just as the Independents helped change the face of Congress and Senate in 2006!

On a negative note, as a lifelong student of “real history,” I’m afraid America has crossed the “Rubicon,” and will not be able to return to what we educationaly “thought America was all about.”

Good Luck, Dennis!

Love Congressman Kucinich and everything he stands for. I keep my ear close to what he says as he speaks from the heart and cares about the people of the world. He does not act from self-interest and can set this country in right direction. My salute, peace and love to you, Sir.

the funny part of this whole thing is that we the people actually bitch and complain as if we actually had a say in how this country is ran...i mean shit the whole country including our leaders does the look to the left look to the right what should I do shuffle and shit don’t get done....i mean really when in the past however many years has our government done something that actually made progress, not regress. and yet i bitch

Law and Order will prevail.

http://soozyq2.googlepages.com/EwanMacCollPeggySeeger- Legal-Illegal.mp3

The LIBERALS are organizing as fast as possible to move the country to the right on foreign policy and just about all other policy.  WE NEED TO GET OUT IN THE STREETS.

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn12092006.html

People keep expressing puzzlement as to why the war continues—a war so pointless and irrational that neither the enemy or the goal can even be identified. 
People must realize that the primary beneficiary of the war is Israel, and that a prominent cabal of Israeli lobbyists and sympathisers—Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Cheney and others—were instrumental in involving the USA in it.  Until more people grasp this fact I see the Iraq war continueing indefinitely. 
I used to be contemptous of Kucinich when he was Cleveland’s infamous “boy mayor.” Now, he’s one of the few politicians willing to take a stand. Times change.

Will our president be impeached?  It’s up to us.  We go for it ourselves, he’s a goner.  We sit back and wait for Congress to do it for us, forget it.

It is a joke
Americans citizens voted for a change.

There will be No Change.

There are TOO MANY Interestests to be preserved....

The bottome line
at the end the American People will loose and the poor Iraquis

To Mr. Scheer,

in your next interview, would you ask Mr. Kucinich about impeachment. Has he heard Constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley (frequently on Olbermann, video clips spread all over the web) speak on the subject?

Mr. Turley testified at Conyers’ basement hearing Jan ‘06, that Bush “admitted to an impeachable offense” and he felt it was Congress’ duty to reign in this renegade president. Kucinich was not present at that hearing, perhaps he is unaware of the fact that Bush admitted to committing this impeachable offense 30 times, or the fact that Bush lied about the illegal spying on the 2004 campaign trail, or that AG Gonzales lied about it during his confirmation hearing.

Mr. Scheer, please ask Mr. Kucinich what he thinks about impeachment- we the people have the right to know.

I know Pelosi and Conyers have taken it off the table, but someone needs to bring it back, and I’m sure millions of Americans would gratefully rally behind Mr. Kucinich if he did.

Thank you TruthDig!

I was once a Republican...voted for Reagan...a terrible mistake.  Then I became a Democrat.  Next stop...the Green Party.  I’ve had it with the lies we keep hearing.  I can’t accept what I’m hearing from the Democratic leadership.  We hired them to end the Iraq War as soon as possible.  If they vote to continue funding the war instead, then that’s when I change my registration to the Green Party.  I won’t even care any longer if it might waste my vote and allow the Republicans back in.  Who cares if there’s no difference between them?  We have to start sometime.

With Nancy Pelosi saying that she would not act on measures of impeachment for Bu$h Inc. anyone expecting change in Washington is going to be terribly disappointed. It looks like business as usual for our elected royalty. The names and faces may change but the song they sing remains the same. We have no leadership in this country - only co-conspirators.
I guess anything other than having your pants down around your ankles in the oval office doesn’t qualify for impeachment. How quickly the Democrats have forgotten. WE the voters will not.
WE the voters have lost this country to the special interests and WE the people are the only ones that can take it back.
Anyone in Congress or the Senate not even willing to address IMPEACHMENT for the Bu$h cabal should be recalled at the state level and removed from office.

The Democratic Party should be calling for impeachment right now!  to end the war and stop Bush from further damage to our country.

But according to Cynthia McKinney, Conyers isn’t even going to investigate Bush!!!

http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2791/BREAKING_Congresswoman _McKinney_Files_Articles_of_Impeachment

“Will other members of congress support the action Congresswoman McKinney has brought forth?

At the table in what could be considered her impeachment “war room” the question is brought up a number of times.

Mike, an advisor to McKinney, mentions, “Conyers was supposed to have investigations. They were chomping at the bit 6 months ago to do subpoenas.”

McKinney quietly replies, “Now they say they aren’t even going to issue subpoenas.”

Thank you, Congressman Kucinich, for not giving up on this country, for continuing to work hard and with integrity, and for getting the truth out.

Indeed, the pro-war Democrats are the biggest danger for the country right now.  Just yesterday, Harry Reid piously vowed to keep the $150 billion or so in new funds out of the hands of Halliburton.  Never mind that there is no need for more money for the Iraq war if we withdraw!  Instead, Reid is talking about how to spend the money to “protect the troops.” With another $150 billion, we’ll be there until 2009 or later.  We must stop giving more money to the war machine.  We should support only politicians who vote to cut off the money and spend what is already appropriated to bring the troops home.  The apology for our invasion and occupation can be done for free by email! 

Hank Van den Berg
Lincoln, NE

The goal of the Ronald Reagan deregulation movement has been achieved.  America is now a model of fascism.

The only realistic cure that I can think of is a combination of: 1) public financing of all elections, and 2) criminalization and zealous prosecution of all political contributions and quid-pro-quo political transactions of any kind.

HE HE HE HA HA HA, McKiney has it right. We need to impeach the Bushites.  How about a Kucinich McKiney ticket???

McKinney introduces bill to impeach Bush By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer
Fri Dec 8, 6:29 PM ET

WASHINGTON - In what was likely her final legislative act in Congress, outgoing Georgia Rep. Cynthia McKinney announced a bill Friday to impeach President Bush.

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The legislation has no chance of passing and serves as a symbolic parting shot not only at Bush but also at Democratic leaders. Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has made clear that she will not entertain proposals to sanction Bush and has warned the liberal wing of her party against making political hay of impeachment.

McKinney, a Democrat who drew national headlines in March when she struck a Capitol police officer, has long insisted that Bush was never legitimately elected. In introducing her legislation in the final hours of the current Congress, she said Bush had violated his oath of office to defend the Constitution and the nation’s laws.

McKinney has made no secret of her frustration with Democratic leaders since voters ousted her from office in the Democratic primary this summer. In a speech Monday at George Washington University, she accused party leaders of cowing to Republicans on the war in Iraq and on military mistreatment of prisoners.

McKinney, who has not discussed her future plans, has increasingly embraced her image as a controversial figure.

She has hosted numerous panels on Sept. 11 conspiracy theories and suggested that Bush had prior knowledge of the terrorist attacks but kept quiet about it to allow friends to profit from the aftermath. She introduced legislation to establish a permanent collection of rapper Tupac Shakur’s recordings at the National Archives and calling for a federal investigation into his killing.

But it was her scuffle with a Capitol police officer that drew the most attention. McKinney struck the officer when he tried to stop her from entering a congressional office building. The officer did not recognize McKinney, who was not wearing her member lapel pin.

A grand jury in Washington declined to indict McKinney over the clash, but she eventually apologized before the House.

I admit to not knowing about Mr. Kucinich’s views until recently. I have to say that he, and people such as Ron Paul and Russ Feingold are giving me pause to reconsider my long held view that ALL politicians are for sale, and will go with the Washington flow when ample pressure is applied.

I believe that the terms Democrat & Republican are obsolete. The real litmus test should be to determine if all of our current and potential future reps. are ‘Globalists’. If so, then they should not be permitted to run for office.

We need to hold the new Democratic congress’s feet to the fire over the Iraq debacle - lest the current administration get their wish and expand the conflict to Iran, which is our current veep’s main goal before they leave, or are forced to leave office.

The situation in Iraq is being called “grave”, and rightfully so for all involved. Sadly, we also have a “grave” situation in the US, lack of responsible and accountable leadership, and the shocking indifference displayed by most of its citizenry, who appear to care more about Britney, Paris and Tom than our young sons & daughters who are in harm’s way, and last but not least, an Iraqi populace that continues to suffer greatly.

Is this Congress going to be a Bait And Switch Democrat Congress? Or do they plan to end the Conflict? What part of no does Congress understand? The people have spoken.Start moving our troops out of harms way. Our present coarse of war planning will never succeed.JLG

Terrence O´Neil got it right.

Your so called Congress is largely nothing more than a pack of characterless individuals who have willingly become politicians for hire. There are signal exceptions, to be sure. They need your public, personal, visible support. The others are bought and sold by the corporate interests that temporarily control the American as well as the vast majority of other populaces around the planet. The results of their actions recently as well as contemporarily proves the issue beyond rational debate.

When you finally wake up and smell the coffee, if you should live that long, you will come to realize that the effort required is continual, and that it is Human, not “American”, that it is Global, not “national” in scope.

Nationstates are a bogus contraption that were long since relegated to the trashbin of history, if you were taught the truth of our existence that is. But you never were.

There is in fact only one nation, planet Earth.

There is in fact only one race, Home Sapiens (rapidly evolving into Homo Supericus)

The story is as old as man himself and every generation must choose…

If you actually still believe that you in fact possess an impartial electoral system in which your representatives are selected based on the egalitarian concept of one individual one vote, then you are sorely duped indeed.

America will be perceived as a great society once again when Americans rise up and re-establish the precepts that their forebears died for. On a global scale, where it matters now.

For those who are able, willing, and ready to get the job done, you will have to start with a short list of senior corporate owners of inordinate criminal, manipulative ability.

You can save the characterless prostitutes for hire (that´s how you actually spell “politician") for much later for they, in and of themselves, are nothing when their masters are removed…

How is Peace ever going to come about in the world if everyone is so prejidis and so hateful ln the name of Jesus,or Metaphysics,or Muslim,Jewish,..whatever Religions are around the world....all anyone wants, is to have respect,a home to raise their families,a community of their own,enough monies,houseing,education, food and clothing,a job,a choice of belief in GOD....to make Peace is to RESPECT one anothers space on this planet,and to either leave eachother alone to their own lives,help each other in times of need ...if we all,as a global community cannot get along....then we are all as ignorant as Jesus said.And the only true answer is Prayer.This has been Gods war from the beginning,and either you believe God or you don’t...He said if we would all say, we are sorry...He,God,would heal our land...BUT,because of sibling rivalry to GOD,and the Powers that be..we can only pray for Peace and unless, enough of us, in the Global community , realise, that we are all… from God...we can continue to fight and die for nothing,and who really wins? NO ONE.It was all for nothing.We need a leader like Dennis Kucinich who understands, the fact that from the beginning of time there has been a Spiritual battle..and that battle is real.Take time to pray and take time to read your Bibles...we are all only human,and pray for Dennis.He is a good man.A true leader,a soldier...for God.A vote for Dennis is a vote for Truth and Respect for all mankind,and the lie of Seperation has to be healed by communnication and understanding that the whole world is waiting on God...we all are basically waiting for our Jesus.We all are.The hatred is not of God..it is the unbelief that has caused the wars,God is watching and waiting and we must respect and forgive,but we can all be restasured,that if given the leadership,and if need be..Dennis would do what he would have to,to Protect the USA First!!! As well as the Global community as best he could.God Bless you Dennis and God Speed.Just a thought and a prayer for all of us.

Progressive my ass.  There is nothing progressive about opposing jingoism and hegemony.  Repealing USA PATRIOT is not progressive.  Peace is not progressive.  War is not conservative.  Justice is not progressive.  I am not progressive, and I voted for Dennis in Boston, 2004.  I voted for Dennis because he was the only Libertarian running for President. 

A liberal is one who liberally convolutes Article I, Sections 8 and 9 of the so-called Constitution of the so-called USA.  A conservative is one who conserves the limitations and prohibitions of government pursuant to the Charters of Federation otherwise known as The Declaration of 1776, and Constitution. 

War, taxation, regulation, indoctrination, regimentation, expeditionaryism, occupation, annexation, clericism, colonialism, apartheid, bantuism, and unabashed ideology are all liberal affectations.  Progressive is non-sequitor and just newspeak for liberal. 

Libertarians never embraced the neo-con/Imperial/Zionist agenda and reject catagorically the rectitudinous demonization of conservatives by pontificous progressives.  And FYI, I was not the only conservative Kucinich delegate.

Libertarians never supported this insane war on drugs, civil forfeiture, manditory minimums, death penalty, wiretapping with or without authorization, conscription, Homeland Security or TSA.  These are liberal contrivances that are unabashedly embraced by the vast majority of democrats, elected or otherwise.  In Maine, it was Republicans who most vehemently opposed the re-election of War Party Sen. Olympia Snowe, and dim dems who voted for her. 

People like war, oppression, police, prison, statutory law and the misery of others, and they do not like precocious progressives.  Wake up and smell the napalm, you sanctimonious miscreants.

I was against the Iraq war from the beginning before it started and I am totally disillusioned with the Democratic party with a few exceptions like Kucinich and Obama.  What will it take to bring the troops home now?  I, after many years as a Democrat, am now unaffiliated, looking for new leadership. The people of this country have been ignored, their voices stifled, where is our “democracy” now?  We have voted for change, we are getting the same old same old, more money for continuing the war, where and when will it end?  Will it end in the streets of America, what will it take to stop our headlong rush into debt and immoral use of power, our destruction of the people of Iraq?  Who among us is strong enough to take the leadership for the rest of us to follow them back to sanity and peace?

COME ON ELECTED OFFICIALS IN WASHINGTON, BRING OUR MILITARY HOME FOR CHRISTMAS AND ALL TIMES AFTER.  DIDN’T WE VOTE FOR YOU TO END THIS WAR!!!

President Kucinich: an idea whose time has come.

The big showdown isn’t Dennis Kucinich against the Democratic leadership, it’s “Take care of number one” versus “Thy neighbor as thyself, being that it’s the outcome of this conflict that decides whether us human beings survive or not.  .

Has anyone mentioned PEACE TALKS?  I think talking is the beginning, it’s called diplomacy.  Stop shooting, stop killing, stop being killed and start talking to all of those sides involved.  Sunis, Sheites, Americans, Iranians, Syrians, Israelis, Palestinians and TELEVISE IT so we can all know who wants what and what it would take to stop the killing that Jesus, Mohammed and all other Gods would not vote for.
We did not vote for more money to be used to kill our soldiers and Iragis.  We voted for a change for a peaceful solution.

“No matter how long you are on the wrong road, turn around.”

Talk about how could we have gotten a president so pigheaded, so short sighted, I think the title Comander and Chief has going to his head, of course it is not a head, it is just a rack for his hat.

I think that Nancy Paloci should take another look at Bush recently, he will not listen to anyone about starting to bring the troops home, does anyone remember his compaign slogan compashionnabe concerative, and he was the guy who was supposed to listen to both sides, the man is not even listining to his own side, this is a dangerous man, does anyone remember a guy called Hitler.  This man was elected to office, it took a long time for him to leave and he left with a bullet in his brain.  Does Bushie have to be stopped by violent means?

IMPEACH THE WHOLE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

Margaret from Vancouver, Washington

This war will continue as long as there is a constituancy for it.  Weapons manufacturers, the Pentagon, security providers all have a vested interest in keeping the war in maximum spending mode.
How about a gas tax at the pump to fully pay the expense of this war?  Every week middle America would get a reminder that they are paying for Bush’s war, and the connection between war, oil, and money would be reinforced every time at the pump.
Corporate America no longer concerns itself with health, education, environmental issues, or our deficit spending here at home.  They are global now, and they can buy and sell their products around the world.

One of the great “moments” in American history, in my opinion, happened in the 60’s during the Viet Nam conflict and the civil rights movement, when the college students and the hippies, then the Blacks, hit the streets.  Why haven’t we learned from that?  Why isn’t there civil disobedience?  Why isn’t there a general strike?  No one seems willing, myself included, to DO anything about the egregious behavior of congress and the Bush administration.  Maybe we really are a minority opinion.  Why are there no leaders like King and Hoffman and Malcom.  This is all BS, apparently.  Change will come when our government gets its peoples’ message, like in the 60’s and probably not before.  They like blood.  Say, the army’s away on call, how ‘bout a coup?!?! Oh, it’s the phone...It’s the FBI.  How the Hell’d they find me???

It’s all well and good to bitch and moan at the Dem leadership’s complicity in continuing W’s war, but we need to leave our keyboards and act.
Remember the March on the Pentagon, which helped to stir antiwar sentiment in the late 60s? We need a new such march in 2007, the earlier the better, to demand an end to this war. And we must remember that the Vietnam War went on for years after the first march. So any new one must be MASSIVE. Meantime, bombard your congresspersons with antiwar mail and support an antiwar candidate for prexy in ‘08.
Barack Obama, now a United States senator, September 2002: “I don’t oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.” (from Paul Krugman’s op-ed in today’s NY TIMES)

Dennis I made a big mistake back in 2000 You really sounded good back then however I felt that Howard Dean had a lot of momentum and I rode his horse until he lost.  What a mistake that was - he has turned out to be a totally Party Guy and that is to support our AIPAC congress in whatever it wants No one will stand up for what is good for this country and the world!  it is horrible no one except you Dennis I am with you 100 percent from here on out. You have never wavered never waffled in your adhearance to what is fundamentally sound and good for the USA and the World.  Keep it up!

This DICTATOR Bush will not listen to any findings, recomendations, his agenda is more of the same, the new congress will not change anything, He has the VETO power, the SIGNING STATEMENTS, I WILL SAY IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH.

Margaret from Vancouver, Washington

I will say this until I am blue in the face IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH.

Margaret from Vancouver, Washington

To #4136l, WARped on 12/8.  My feeling exately, seems as there are a lot of change sides, if the name is democrat, become a democrat, I want to see some one stand up to be president who is not afraid of doing what is right, and maybe some will see that and vote that person in again.  What we need are some people who are not afraid, someone made the statement long ago that our government is as good the money it takes, inotherwords worshiping the dollar, and the only GOD that the King George prays to is money.

margaret from Vancouver, Washington

Dear Representative Kucinich,

I stood for you in the 2004 primary.

If YOU do not start educating the American people about Campbell v Clinton, what you are advocating will never come about.  You cannot just ask people to do the right thing, you have to show them, and beat it into their consciousness.

Thank you for your work.

I totally supported Dennis for president, and still do but if he doesn’t bring up Impeachment now then I’m all done-we’ll have to find another. Sorry Dennis but sometimes you just have to part with the party and do what you have to do.  You have the majority of the public on your side if you take the bull by the horns, and what better way to attract attention to your campaign for 2008?  Do it! Impeachment is our only option.  Indict , convict and hang them all.

Rahm Emanuel is the Zionist stealth pig in the Democratic party. A serious effort must be made to front this scum out.

If the 70 billion supplemental is passed. That will be the last time I vote for a Democrat in my life. I’ve been betrayed by these pigs long enough.
At the point this bill passes that is when this war is the Democrats war and they alone will be the murdering scum who will be held accountable for it.

My family have been Democrats forever.  The new Congress majority is NOT.  They’re plutocrat puppets, dangled by the excessively wealthy robber-baron campain contributors, who are the bad guys, traitors.
Until we start pressuring these campaign contributors personally to get out of politics, nothing is going to change. The new bills prove it.
Name names, and publicize the Greedies’ deeds. They’re not Americans; they’re ‘multi-nationalists’, ‘globalists’, who want to dumb-down and poor-down our good society to be as corrupt as those they buy slave-labor-goods from, so they can be psuedo-aristocrats, regressing 300 years in history.
Good men must (individually, anonymously) act, or evil will triumph.

Dennis:

Run as a “Green Democrat”. But run as a Green for President.

I’ve been a democrat all my life, but I’m really disgusted with all of them. Talk about a do nothing congress. Nothing appears set for change; just more of the same bull…
The main problem is, no one wants to stand up and be responsible. Everybody is worried about their future and careers. We need a hero.., someone to call for help!
Is there a doctor in the house?
Please, can’t someone come forward and sign the papers demanding that this delusional freak “King George the Decider,” be committed to a mental institution. Isn’t there a standard set for mental illness allowing for committment. Most everyone, who isn’t also deluded, can see this guy is ill, in his own world and really needs psychiatric assistance.
Where is God’s help in W’s divine purpose?
Unfortunately, many more brave Americans will die for their King and his spoils, but we all will pay a price we can’t afford for just sitting and watching the movie. God, save America. “God save the Queen”; it’s much too late to save the king.

If Democrats worked half as hard for the common good as Republicans work for corporate corruption, the country wouldn’t be going bankrupt. You’ll never hear a story like this reported by the mass media of course, but if Democrats reported the facts on hundreds of stories like this on cspan, they could begin to educate the American people. The fact that they don’t isn’t simply a matter of sloth, it’s a matter of money. Stealing from the many for the sake of the rich is what our corrupt system of government is all about.

Too bad a majority of Americans are too stupid to figure that out.

Now that Republicans have shown them how to do it, don’t be surprised if Democrats join in the Washington FEEDING FRENZY. Hardly anybody ever goes to jail, and so what if you get voted out of office after stealing tens of millions of dollars. Grab the money and run.

In my previous comment, I talked about the ‘08 election primarily as a form of pressure on our Representatives now.

The World Cant Wait is right.  We need action now.  If the Dems dont come through promptly, it’s time for a lot of direct action.  Anybody else remember how the Vietnam War ended?  The war came home to Washington, right there on the cover of Time magazine, and ultimately the soldiers mostly refused to fight.  And then, of course, the Vietnamese won.

One reason to get our troops out as quickly as possible is that the situation could go really sour in a big hurry.  If the Shia decide they don’t need the occupation any more, and there are signs of an alliance between them and the Sunni insurgency, the whole thing will be over very quickly.  And very badly.  This I fully expect; only the timing remains unclear.  So, we need our people out of there as quickly as possible.

Well, Dennis, here’s a ‘new direction’ on Iraq, OUT, as in ‘any point on the compass in a distance equal to or greater than the mean average radius from the center of the country of Iraq. War’s been over for 3 years, at some point, the people of Iraq will, themselves, have to assume governance of their own country. It’d be really really cool if some of our legislators started taking a keener interest in fixing domestic problems, like chronic federal and state overspending for starters, and start figuring out how to kill off the national debt. I hope that Congress et. al. will stop trying to lead the country down the proverbial garden path, and instead start working on rebuilding our national infrastructure, and strongly exhorting the leaders of other countries to start doing the same. I think our military has done what it can to try and stabilize Iraq or whatever, what comes next will largely be up to the people themselves, and their neighbor countries. Some things, you just gotta do yourself, no one else can do it for you.

Every year this whole thing continues, it represents billions more in national debt. That debt already stands at 8.5 trillion, and it’s climbing, Dennis, every year. Maybe you could write to Texas Instruments, and see if they’d be willing to do something along the lines of ‘Calculators for Congress’ or something like that, and then go to Wal-Mart and get yourself a stencil kit, and some red spray paint, and go outside on the steps of Capitol Hill and every third step or so, make your mark on Washington
by putting down words on the steps like ‘public accountability’, ‘national debt’, ‘recall election’, ‘voter polls’, ‘do the math’, ‘change begins at home’, ‘no taxpayer left behind’, come up with some of your own slogans, too, don’t just use mine, but here’s some more, if you’re so inclined:’energy independence’, ‘global population growth’, ‘oil wars’, ‘impeachment is legal’, ‘anti-trust’, ‘lobbyist regulation’, ‘term limits’, ‘fraud investigation’, ‘ethics hearings’, so forth and so on, you kind of get the idea…

Anyway, that’s the principle of the thing, to my view, the ‘way forward’ in Iraq is again, any distance traveled in a straight line as measured from the middle of the country equal to or greater than the mean average radius, as in ‘out’, kind of like ol’ Sesame Street, ‘inside’, and ‘outside’. That should be a bout Sen. Kennedy’s speed, there...there, I’ve vented my spleen, I feel better…

It’s as Nader always said--the dems are just another bunch of bought-out crooks like the republicans.  They (both parties) keep this war going because every day it puts another 1/2 billion dollars of tax-payer money into various business pockets.  Kucinich for pres!

It looks like the Democratic Party has found a backbone.

someone elses.

What is really interesting is people think the Democrats are better than the Republicans people they are of the same cloth. Not one has called for the impeachment of Bush nor stripping him of the powers Congress foolishly gave up. People need to make sure that these democrats know that they too are not secure in the majority.

As far as Rahm Emanuel, people need to know that Emanuel is not his birth name. Do research on Rahm Emanuel and you will find he has dual citizenship..US&Israel;. He is the spy in the white house. Rahm Emanuel you will find that he went to fight a war in Israel while claiming to be a US citizen. Now he is advocating more money for war?

People do not sleep on the democrats they too are bought and paid for by crooks and criminals. It time to clean both houses and both parties. These people have been there too long. They are a bunch of done nothings also.

Are Americans so damn stupid as to realize they need to get rid of foreigners in the government who are only serving their countries and not the US.

“...why don’t our leaders want to stop the killing NOW[?]”

Because the “leaders” and their crony “pundits” (the Right Wing press/radio) as well as their supporters live (well, want to anyway) in a fantasy world where they see the world as though children playing Cowboys n’ Indians—with their (America’s) role of the strong-willed sheriff shootin’ down the bad guys.

It’s the American persona as told by the likes of Mason Weems (http://xroads.virginia.edu/~cap/gw/gwmoral.html) reinforced through icons of the stage and screen from “Nathan Brittles” in John Ford’s “She Wore a Yellow Ribbon” to “Jack Bauer” of “24”.

They call themselves “Cultural Warriors” these arm-chair vigilantes who themselves do not do any fighting beyond shouting on the airwaves an in books - the Limbaughs, O’Reillys, Coulters, Savages, and the Becks. Vile people who never offer solutions; only hatred of anything differing from their fantasy image of what America should be: white christians in nice homes with a working Dad and a stay-at-home breeding Mom. All people “of color” need to stay on their side of the border thank-you-very-much.

These “Cultural Warriors” egg people on though, don’t they. This War would not have happened if enough people actually were educated enough to know that a military occupation NEVER GOES WELL NOR AS PLANNED AND ALWAYS HAVE COSTS VASTLY GREATER THAN IMAGINABLE.

This is not “Dubya-Dubya-Two” where our Audie Murphy’s kills all the “bad guys”. This war was ordained to be a mess from conception. Only people who have learned their history by WATCHING MOVIES would have thought that the U.S.A. could possibly have turned Iraq into a “beacon of democracy” by force and invasion.

Occupation is a violent act. Occupation makes people angry!

In this country we have millions of people in an uproar when their electricity goes out for more than 12 hours! When they are inconvienenced in line for the latest Playstation!

Can you imagine living in a country with hundreds of thousands dead over five years by another countries bombs and soldiers? With foreign tanks blowing up houses? Foreign troops kicking down doors and arresting your neighbors? You would be so angry you’d want to fight back any way you could!

But, no. Our “leaders” want to be written about as “heros” who brought democracy to the Middle East.

But at what cost? At what cost!

Before we begin tar and feathering our newly elected congress about military spending, how about checking some information on why the the Dems just might want to increase that budget:

Official Iraq war costs don’t tell the whole story
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/16178947.htm

I’m 100% positive that many TruthDig readers KNOW that there is sufficient grounds for impeachment.

Is there not a single Congressperson that is capable of taking this truth to the public. Dennis is saying great things about Iraq, but he doesn’t ever address the case for impeachment.

Why can’t one single Congressperson state clearly that there is a very serious case for impeachment, for charges of treason to be brought against the criminals in the Executive Branch. To state this and demand a real debate, open to the public, broadcast on C-span. And I mean Demand it- To go outside the “Today” show and bang on the windows during taping, then maybe they’d let him in to talk… after a week or two.

ps- to the commenters re: election 2008.... what the hell- you don’t mind the continued carnage… why don’t our leaders want to stop the killing NOW!

Like all bully’s, the United States will not stop being the world bully until it gets a real bloody nose. I’m afraid that we people who oppose the war can only wait until that happens. No amount of logical analysis and persuation is going to stop a national leadership that persists in sustaining the attitude of a bully. And believe me, when it comes to “bully attitudes”, there is no difference between the two parties.

Ah!  The other wing of the War Party has finally shown its colors!  People, the time has now come to shut down the Democratic Wing of the War Party once and for all.  I am voting for the Green Party all the way in 2008!

I stopped voting for Democrats, even in the last election, because it was obvious they weren’t going to change a thing. . . and they are quickly showing I was right. As near as I can tell, Kucinich has been, for quite some time, the only honest man in Washington, and I hope he runs again for President.

The members of Congress have for so long been sucking on the lobby tit that they really don’t feel much of a need to do what their constituants would want in regards to Iraq, Health Care, or just about anything else. The sad fact is that there is precious little difference between the parties. The republicans blindly goose-step behind Rove / Bush and the democrats with but a few exceptions are too afraid to stick their necks out on any principal. Your are hard pressed to identify what any of them stand for except what their party leaders tell them. Rep. Kucinich stands out almost alone as one of our politicians who somehow is able to remember why he was elected to the Congress. To represent the people of both his district and the nation as a whole. Its time we start demanding some actions on the issues that really effect us all like our pathetic health care system, the ridiculous cost of higher education, a tax system that favors only the wealthy, and holding this administration accountable, finally, for causing so much damage to America. Its time we vote out all the politicians who are not working dillegently on these issues.

Has anybody here actually sat down and talked with Mr. Kucinich? I interviewed him a few years ago. Unfortunately, folks, he is way, way too intelligent and honest to be elected President.

We have to fight the Jewish Lobby

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15800.htm

And because of the large number of anti- Semites on the web: The Jewish Lobby is not the same as all Jews.

There should be an income tax “war surcharge” levied every time a war appropriations bill is passed.  After all, we have to pay for our little wars. right?  So for each of your senators and your congressman who voted “yes” you get a 10% surcharge.  All three voted “Yes?” Fine.  Add 30 % to your “tax owed” line on the 1040 form.

Put THAT law on the books and then let’s see who in Congress really thinks we ought to continue funding this “war.”

We got to get rid of all the Bushites including those in the Democrat Party.

Please look at the World Can’t Wait web site. They seem to be the only group on the broad left that is fighting the Bushites, ALL OF THEM. The Democrats are funded by the same people who are funding the Republicans.

People, non-violence will not work in fighting fascism. People on the left have to arm or we will stay in the fascist imperialist mode forever.

Let us ALL keep writing to our Reps and Senators,"Bring the troops home NOW” and if they don’t listen, we will have to follow up with “sit-ins” at each one of their local offices; will the Green Party lead ?
Enough with all the talk; let us do the walk!

This administration has continually outwitted the democrats on Iraq. I voted for democrats this last election because I truly felt that that they would fight to end this war while knowing in my heart that this bunch of clowns would be no different than the last. The only way we, the people, will ever be able to make a change in Washington is if we vote against the incumbent every election until they finally get the message that we will hold them accountable.

To support more funding for the war, democrats are pushing their luck. Voters aren’t going to forget this.

Whoever supported this WMD to war in Iraq ought to be kicked out in the next election.

Whether we all agree with Mr. Kucinich or not on the question of withdrawal of US military from Iraq, it is an affront to our democracy for the matter not to be debated. Congratulations to Mr. Kucinich and to his supporters for making the option of withdrawal relevant.

BTW, I hope we all know by now, Kucinich has declared his candidacy for President in 2008.

Go Dennis!

The Democratic leadership in Congress need to understand that they have run out of excuses; the voters took those away in November.  They will now pay a terrible political price if they continue to support the Iraq war. 

I’ve been saying all along that if someone votes for the war, votes to continue funding the war, and generally acts as if they support the war, we can safely assume that they SUPPORT THE WAR.  The reasons simply don’t matter; maybe Halliburton is paying them off under the table, maybe they’re afraid of political repercussions, maybe they’re afraid of being locked up as enemy combatants.  And maybe they’re just imperialists.  Remember, Viet Nam was the Democrats’ war.  If they refuse to stop it, it is theirs, and we will have to vote accordingly.  And about time.

You can contact your Representative to say so; you can also do something more dramatic:  change your registration.  There is a progressive party in this country:  the Greens.  Sure, they’re feeble; that’s because so many progressives lack the courage of their convictions.  So far, we’ve let ouselves be bamboozled by the Dems. 

Tired of bait and switch?  Suspecting that it’s absolutely deliberate and they’re not going to stop?  Join the Greens; let’s all work hard on our campaign apparatus and offer Kucinich the Presidential nomination in two years.  By then, he’ll be ready to switch, too. 

A party is only as good as the people in it.  ‘08 is going to be an interesting year:  Bush will have put the Republicans deep in the toilet, and the way they’re going, the Dems will be there, too, with the Iraq albatross stinking around their necks.  It’s going to be a very good year for new parties.  So let’s all make it happen, if the Dems don’t shape up fast.  And tell your Representative THAT.

Yes we have to create such an uproar that Congress rejects this supplemental bill to fund the Iraq war.  Why?  Because if we don’t the slaughter continues and who else but ourselves to blame, being that we’ll have had our chance and failed.

This soon after the election we should not be having to make lists of possible motives for the people we just put in power in Wash. to be doing an about face on everything they know we wanted..but here goes the list....#1. how many of them owe their eyeteeth to AIPAC? 2.Do they really believe that the Rove’s, the neo-cons and other vampires who have control of the GOP will go for that “let’s just all be friends and make a better gov’t.”, stuff? If they believe it then they haven’t been keeping track of the traps the Republicans have set for them many times and they are walking right into another. Certainly by 2008 their neo-con media troops will be out in force saying it was the Democrats who wanted to stay in Iraq, and they’ll pull up the number of Dem. votes for the 160 billion to prove it. By 2009 they will have at least half of the Americans convinced that the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was really more a DEM. idea than a REP. one.
Please feel free to add your own musings to the list.  ruth wilson

The new democratic leadership has given up their moral principles in exchange for political advantages and practicalities.  They have breached their constitutional duties by agreeing not to impeach President Bush and Vice President Cheney when it is obvious form publicly disclosed documents that war crimes have been committed by his administration. Likewise, they aim to continue financing the illegal war purely for political reasons. The new democratic leadership is a self-serving body. These leaders do not serve America.

Dr Shipwash

Iraq has become a game of chicken.  Neither side wants to be the one blamed for losing the war.  Politics over people as usual.

Volunteer army?  Let’s make this a voluntary war.  If you don’t want to be there, you shouldn’t have to be.  At least let every unit vote to stay or go as a group.  Compulsory participation in unavoidable wars makes sense but not in elective, corporate welfare warfare.

Bet the Iraq Spin Group didn’t think of that.

Why is it so hard to get out of Iraq? We got in, we can get out. Don’t you just turn around and walk the other way and pay another bill of shame and humiliation? Isn’t it more our reluctance to admit a horrendous mistake, believing our stupid leader’s threats of instant mushroom clouds ready to rain on America’s long aggressive parade to world oil empire? As America’s prestege is already in the basement can it get any lower by our admission of national stupidity? It might even get us some sympathy! Shades of Vietnam!

If the Democrats continue to back this illegal and obscene war, they can forget about my vote. I’m tired of business as usual and thought I was going to get something better.

Rep. Kucinich is no doubt sincere in his concerns for both the troops in harm’s way and those middle-class wage-earners here in the homeland who’re are about to be stuck with the well-padded bill for “extending” those troops’ exposure to that harm for at least another two years.  He also seems to be saying there is absolutely no impetus within his party’s caucus to even seriously consider some more rigorous approach by the Congress to “support the troops” by getting ‘em the hell out of there.  It looks to this primitive savage like anyone who smells a “bait-and-switch” operation in all the latest “news” on the subject is a lot closer to the naked truth of the matter than Mr. Kucinich felt compelled to come right out and say in so many words, in this latest interview.  The congressman has at times waxed pretty warmly about the grave threat to the republic posed by America’s freebooting adventure in “the cradle of civilization,” the ruthless privateers who instigated and are profiting hugely from it, and the crying need to take drastic steps to address it a lot sooner than later.  Here he is obviously telling his constituents that the supposed “sea-change” a month ago has already come to pretty much nothing, so far as Iraq is concerned, and they’re best advised not to look to the “new” congress for any real change in direction there.  He stops short of urging a popular uprising, perhaps because he knows how likely it is that, too, will prove to be just another bloody exercise in futility.  I guess he understands, as anyone in his position certainly ought to, that the gangsters who’re tapping the public treasury to the tune of billions daily are also in-control of all the really serious firepower, and won’t hesitate to use it, should “theamericanpeople” ever wake up and mount even a half-hearted attempt to reclaim their government from the national securtiy state apparatus that has hijacked it.  Where’s a Patrick Henry when you need him?  Probably already a victim of “friendly fire” somewhere in “the clash of civilizations.”

Why am I not surprised? How dumb can our elected leaders be?  As a member of the voting public, I’m not willing to wait for them to decide when it’s a good time.  The time is NOW! If they truly want to support our troops they’ll force a showdown with Howdy Doody Bush and cut his allowance like any good parent who’s brat has become uncontrollable. Not one more of our men or women should have to die to prop up that worthless little criminal’s ego.  Not even respect for the office is worth that.

I’m a Nam Vet and I can tell you when the end came in 1975 we couldn’t wait to get out of that stinking hell hole.  The Democrats better wake up and take note of why they were elected and by whom, or they will see the handwriting on the wall too late: thou art weighed in the balance and found wanting. I’m still fuming angry about the Democrats who voted for this unholy war in the first place. The likes of Emanuel should be tarred and feathered and voted out of congress.

According to Truthdig’s interview with Dennis Kucinich, the House’s most vocal and progressive representative, the Democratic leadership (DL) wants to provide Bush with an additional (brace yourself) $160 billion, of our money, to continue Bush’s war on Iraq.  If this sound nuts - that’s because it is.

This contradicts what the voters wanted in the recent mid-term elections.  The DL’s excuse is that we must support the troops. But, as Dennis points out, there is $70 billion still in the pipeline that should be used to bring the troops home NOW!

The DL is afraid they will be labled “unpatriotic” if they refuse to go along with Bush.  The Democrats have had this unfounded fear since 9/11 and should stop funding Bush’s illegal war and bring the troops home NOW! We must convince our Democratic representatives to turn off the spigot and while we are at it, urge others to do likewise.

Gary Kimball
Owensboro, KY