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WikiLeaks Reveals 6 Years of Afghanistan War SecretsPosted on Jul 25, 2010
The whistle-blower website just dropped 91,000 secret documents, which were simultaneously published by The New York Times, The Guardian and Der Spiegel. There are many revelations and more to come, but we already know that NATO forces appear to be responsible for hundreds of unclaimed civilian deaths and injuries, that a “black” unit has dispensed with the justice system, and both Taliban attacks and collaboration with foreign powers, including our allies in Pakistan, may be on the rise.
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By A Khokar, July 26, 2010 at 9:37 pm Link to this comment
Indeed; this is a document which contain the evidences of war crimes of Coalition Forces
Report thisBy diman, July 26, 2010 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment
ofersince72
100% agree, they will launch a campaign to smear the WikiLeaks and then, well, then nothing, like you said it will be business as usual.
Report thisBy SoTexGuy, July 26, 2010 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment
The real problem may be the pervasive influence of the culture of secrecy that has gripped our government and all it’s machinations.
I see and hear repeated protestations from our leaders of the need for all the secrecy.. Secret documents, secret meetings, secret deals.. secret everything.. All three branches of government abuse this.. oh and also the 4th branch.. the NSA/CIA/DOD. I’m sure some things need to be kept under wraps (nuclear launch codes).. all the rest?
I watched an interview on DN.org where Daniel Elsberg (Pentagon Papers Elsberg) responded to criticisms from the Obama administration of the leaking of the gunship tapes showing the killing of the journalists and other innocents in Iraq.. He asked why (after FOIA and legal requests for that information) were the tapes kept secret? What matter of national security was involved.. Had Obama seen the tapes? If not, who in his cirlce had and subsequently squelched their release? And again, why? Who is making the decisions to keep our citizens in the dark on so many issues and under what authority?
Now here we are again with these new ‘leaks’.. President Obama, did you know of these hidden reports? Had you seen enough of them to understand their nature? Why exactly were they classified and hidden.. Was that by your order? If not, then by whose authority? What is achieved from hiding the true nature of this bloody conflict from America and the world?
Adios!
Report thisBy ofersince72, July 26, 2010 at 1:26 pm Link to this comment
Mostly these leaks will be preaching to the choir
Report thisbecause the MSMs, the WAPO , and Times will soon
disregard them, it will be business as usual, nothing
has stopped this killing machine for fifty years.
By doublestandards/glasshouses, July 26, 2010 at 10:22 am Link to this comment
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It’s the same old story. The people drinking the kool-aid in Washington all say that the war is going just fine. Anyone not drinking the kool-aid is unamerican.
Report thisBy doublestandards/glasshouses, July 26, 2010 at 10:07 am Link to this comment
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Listen to the WH press corps questioning Gibbs on the wikileaks papers today. “Aren’t they just awful people for doing this, Bob?” Gibbs: “Yes they are really bad people.” “Is the president really upset Bob?” “Yes, he’s really upset.” It’s hopeless that the main stream media will ever wake up about the wars.
Report thisBy garth, July 26, 2010 at 8:08 am Link to this comment
I first heard this story on C-Spoon. Parts of the Times and Guardian were read on air and then the poople was given access to the airways via the phone lines to voice their hip-draw-aim and-shoot opinions.
Amy Goodman had a great show on this.
But she also mentioned that about 40-plus House Republicans just co-signed a bill to give Israel, the 21st century Japan and its Divine Right Kingdom described as the “only Democracy in the Middle East” the right to lead an attack on Iran.
(The message, however, might be, “If you are crazy enough, go right ahead.)
Falujah, also reported by Amy Goodman, is now reporting birth defect that are similar to the ones reported after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Did they use nuclear weapons again? This time with the technological advances so that no mushroom cloud appeared? Or, would that have mattered with our level of press coverage?
(Justin Hamburger (I can’t remember his last name), the guy who jus published the Afghan War, rah-rah story, where are you now?)
After all, in Falujah we were only “neutralizing” the enemy. The idea being that the best way to ease toward friendship is to kill a father or mother, brother or sister, son or daughter.
Get to Frenemy first. Then to go for the bribe.
It’s like my going next door and saying to my neighbor, “If you kill your sons, I’ll give you, say $2500 each, and I will also add my freedoms.
Report thisBy balkas, July 26, 2010 at 7:24 am Link to this comment
Of course, we do not know if anyone is winning anything from war agaisnt afgh’n!
No columnist or investigative journalist had to date tried to find who is winning and who is losing wealth, because US occupies and wages battles against afghani.
I think they all know that no one can find out who is gaining and how much gaining wealth in this war.
But since the warlords are not stupid [i think] and have gone to war to gain materially s’mthing, one can safely conclude, that masters of 99% of americans either know [eg, already gained land, drugs, etc.] or think they have gained s’mthing or will gain even more.
So, and whatever, or only perceiving-feeling that warlords are winning and wld win more, means war wld go on for decades.
To cut the whole nonsense out, let’s just say US had already won. How ab losing 2k soldiers? Well, what ab it? Hadn’t cheney explained it? tnx
Report thisBy Blackspeare, July 26, 2010 at 7:06 am Link to this comment
I got bad news for you guys. The revelations my father told me about his service in Vietnam very much mimics what the so called Wiki-Leaks reveals——nothing much changes in war. The only difference is that if there had been an all volunteer army in ‘Nam the US would still have a garrison there vis-a-vis South Korea.
Report thisBy mrfreeze, July 26, 2010 at 7:06 am Link to this comment
I wrote this on HP as well:
Let’s be honest about the Iraq and Afghanistan wars:
Most Americans SUPPORTED these wars. Several hundred thousand people have VOLUNTEERED to fight in these wars. The Media colluded with the Bush Administration to get us into these wars. All of the anti-war activists were VILIFIED by the media, the administration and their neighbors as being unpatriotic. And then there were the famous propaganda statements:
“Mission Accomplished”
“We’ve got to fight ‘em over there so we don’t have to fight ‘em here!”
So, please explain to me why it’s such a surprise that these wars have been dirty business? Also, explain to me how many of you were in full support of the wars almost a decade ago but now are suffering from buyer’s remorse?
Report thisBy Arabian Sinbad, July 26, 2010 at 6:07 am Link to this comment
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Yet despite all these scandalous reports of mass-deception by our political-military-industrial complex, warmongering will continue to be the dominent culture in these sad United States of America, while the masses continue to live by the herd mentality which has been the standard norm for many decades.
No wonder then that these sad United States of America are quickly regressing in the scale of civilization to become soon worse than the worst so-called third world countries!
Report thisBy G.Anderson, July 26, 2010 at 5:34 am Link to this comment
No wonder were losing. How can we expect to win, anything at all under these curcumstances?
And what about our servicemen and women who are being killed, and crippled for life? What about their families, and lives back home?
Is this what they died for some charade?
I bet their just as sick and tired of Washington as the rest of us. Tired of doing the bidding of lunatics.
Report thisBy NYCartist, July 26, 2010 at 5:29 am Link to this comment
War funding vote in House of Reps this week. When we refuse to pay for war(s), the war(s) will stop. (and when troops refuse to fight) Peace action as can by all NOW, please.
Report thisBy NYCartist, July 26, 2010 at 5:26 am Link to this comment
When I saw the big headline and section on the Guardian homepage yesterday, I didn’t realize at first how BIG it is. I had just assumed it was some of the stuff we’d been hearing about in re wikileaks on DemocracyNow http://www.democracynow.org for weeks.
Report thisIt’s BIG. See today’s show (video up now from AM show) and transcript for readers who don’t do video later in day. The tv show is close captioned and I wish the video was.
By Ouroborus, July 26, 2010 at 4:01 am Link to this comment
Hero is the most abused, misused word in the English
Report thislanguage.
Daniel Ellsberg was a true hero/patriot and whoever
followed in his courageous footsteps by releasing these
files via Wiki-leaks, also qualifies as heroic.
But he/she will be vilified; unlike Ellsberg. Pity we
treat our true heroes as criminals. But then it’s a
pity we’re no longer who we claim to be.
By Paul_GA, July 26, 2010 at 3:47 am Link to this comment
Those people at Wikileaks had better watch their collective six from here on out. After this, Mordor-on-the-Potomac won’t bother with capture and incarceration at Gitmo or Gitmo East (Bagram); they’re going to be locked and loaded and ready to leave bodies sprawled in pools of blood, “Munich” style.
Report thisBy A Khokar, July 26, 2010 at 12:17 am Link to this comment
Wiki leaks War Logs; What all has been Cooking comes to Boil
Reports Assert that Pakistan an ally and front state in the war on terror aids insurgency in Afghanistan
But there is nothing new in the Report. This is yet another futile effort to malign an ally; who suffered the most in the war against terrorism.
But accusing Pakistan and making her a scapegoat may not turn the expected humiliation of US in this nonsensical war waged to thrust the American might on the defenceless Afghanis———in to a victory.
Report thisBy ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 11:41 pm Link to this comment
While it is a service,,,,most of us don’t need the
Wikileaks to understand gross injustice that is going
on in Afghanistan. The torture, murder, starvation,
thirst, hunger, ripping apart families, destruction of
ancient culture, the lies about the Taliban, the CIA
made up Al Qaeda, the drug running, the corruption,
the mutilated bodies, the amputee children, the land
mines forever, the Sec of States lies, the lust for the
natural gas and petro pipeline, the waste of money,
the mercenaries, and all the other ugliness that follows
all of America’s dirty lied about resource wars.
I don’t need wikileaks….......
Report thisThe citizens of this coutry ought to be demanding that
every secret agency this government has to be shut down.
They work for Internatioal Investors , with our tax payer
money, and they get filthy rich off of the CIA and the MIC