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Posted on Nov 29, 2010
AP / Evan Vucci

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gestures while making a statement about the WikiLeaks document release Monday at the State Department.

Being the U.S. secretary of state must have its perks, what with the power and guaranteed attention of various world leaders and all, but Monday, Hillary Clinton’s was not a job to envy, as she faced the considerable task of containing the diplomatic damage caused by the latest WikiLeaks release.  —KA

The Guardian:

The US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, today gave the administration’s first public reaction to the leaking of thousands of confidential diplomatic documents, describing it as an attack not only on the US but the international community.

Clinton, in a lengthy statement expressing US regret over the leaks that have thrown the diplomatic world into disarray and created widespread embarrassment for Washington, stressed the leaks put at risk the lives of many people in oppressive societies who had spoken to American diplomats.

[...] Although she started the press conference with a smile and even managed a joke during it – saying one of her foreign colleagues said she should see what they say privately about her – she looked tired after days talking to counterparts around the world, warning them of what might be coming and trying to soothe hurt feelings.

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By fearnotruth, December 1, 2010 at 6:08 pm Link to this comment

...choose a Super Power to replace the U.S..  Can you do that?

      baited, spurious question, typical of a provocateur

      compelling question: end Super Power status… how to do that?

remember the ‘Peace Dividend’ when the Wall came down… “what was that?” you say

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20944

The End of the Cold War and Strategy for the New World Order

With the end of the Cold War a new strategy had to be determined to manage the global system. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, declarations of a “New World Order” sprang forward, focusing on the United States as the single world superpower. This presented a great many challenges as well as opportunities for the worlds most powerful hegemon.

(excerpt)

The Spread of Al-Qaeda

Al-Qaeda did not just spread to Bosnia and Albania/Kosovo, but rather a great many places around the world saw the spread of this vast “database” of Islamist fighters, and always aided by Western intelligence agencies or their regional conduits (such as the ISI and Saudi intelligence agencies). Following on the heels of the established American and NATO strategy following the Cold War, Islamic fundamentalism also came to play a part in this strategy.

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By morristhewise, December 1, 2010 at 2:11 pm Link to this comment

Not since the World Trade Center bombing has America faced such a breach of its security. The WikiLeaks have penetrated the nations defenses and have weakened its war against terrorism. But all is not lost, the thrust of the enemy will be met with new resolve and they will be defeated.

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By Go Right Young Man, December 1, 2010 at 1:48 pm Link to this comment

glider, - “GRYM, That is an excellent question…”

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Couldn’t help but note that both you and garard were unable to actually answer the “excellent question”.

I also couldn’t help but note that Queenie was unable to answer the following - “The Mexican drug cartel is an criminal enterprise only if you’re afraid of the truth?”

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I commend each of you for being so idealistic, however, why is it next to impossible to get a direct answer to a direct question when the question speaks directly to the issues you all so passionately write about?  It’s as if you each can’t answer these simple questions so you move on.  Never actually tackling the real issues facing the real world.

As I wrote on another post concerning this same topic; the world doesn’t turn on wishful thinking.

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By glider, December 1, 2010 at 9:22 am Link to this comment

GRYM,

“choose a Super Power to replace the U.S..  Can you do that?”

That is an excellent question to posit and the best of what I have read from your commentary. I am in Gerald’s and Queenie’s camp here. Having been educated in the 60-70s I to have suffered a sort of “Obama Effect” from the over promise of that time to the sad under delivery seen in the reality of our times. Perhaps we are naive, and the human condition demands a Super Power. But the dream of a true democracy in balance with a benevolent well regulated capitalism is dying before our very eyes and it is very disheartening.  So yes we are well entrenched in a Super Power Model where the prime driver is exploitation but we had hoped for something better.

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By fearnotruth, December 1, 2010 at 4:14 am Link to this comment

RE: On the more positive side:  These hundreds of thousands of Wikileaks
documents released over the past months brings into clear relief how there is
no one group e.g., Plutocracy, MIC, BBC, running the world.  Perhaps a few
more tin hats will be tossed in with the refuse.

au contraire!

Wikileaks has been compared to the “Pentagon Papers”  - and so it is…

http://blogs.alternet.org/penucquem/tag/pentagon-papers/

Ronald West

Julian Assange, CIA Agent Provocateur

POSTED: 8:56 am, October 11, 2010

Note added on 26 October 2010- If the WikiLeaks release of nearly 400,000
low level classified documents had been significant in uncovering a seminal
issue the U.S. military command is truly concerned with keeping secret, or had
the release been authentic in a sense of unscreened or unedited collection of
documents, there would have been something had jumped out and made
headlines worldwide: Covered up: More than 1/3 of American woman soldiers
raped

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The New York Times on the WikiLeaks Afghan war documents release:

“It is sometimes unclear whether a particular incident report is based on
firsthand observation, on the account of an intelligence source regarded as
reliable, on less-trustworthy sources or on speculation by the writer. It is also
not known what may be missing from the material”

“The unfiltered intelligence and incident reports are sometimes consistent with
data released to the public. But the archive is clearly an incomplete record of
the war. It is missing many references to seminal events”

This [above] is absolutely consistent with methodology using a select collection
of authentic documents employed to deceive as described in “The Secret Team”
by Colonel Prouty, former Joint Chiefs of Staff/CIA liason. Colonel Prouty
pointed out the Pentagon Papers had been a deliberately engineered psy-ops
operation to shift political responsibility in the public eye for the colossal
intelligence and policy failures in Vietnam, stating the Pentagon Papers are:

“unreliable, inaccurate and marred by serious omissions. They are a contrived
history

Welcome to a cyber-age WikiLeaks repeat of a 40 year old social deceit

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By gerard, November 30, 2010 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment

GRYM:  Actually, you are not reading the human situation “correctly”—whatever that is.  Neither is anyone else.  All any of us can do is make assumptions, some of them based on fact and provisional accuracy, others based on myth, personal choice, and relative ignorance.

The odd thing is that those who base their assumptions on fact and provisional accuracy are more likely to be “right”. Why?  Because they can change when they find out that what they thought was fact, happened to be wrong, or insufficient to the need, or based on prejudice.

Another odd thing is that those who base their assumptions on fact and provisional accuracy are less willing to kill other people whose beliefs differ from their own.

P.S.  It is well to bear in mind that both types may be wrong and quite probably neither of them is entirely right. Being human, they can’t catch all the balls that are up in the air.

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By blueworld, November 30, 2010 at 1:16 pm Link to this comment

I wonder why so much of international diplomacy is basically a fantasy - a huge expensive PR stunt.  We’ve known for decades that embassies are home plate for spies from every country & thank heaven for diplomatic immunity. 

Things are never as they seem; friendships & alliances are frequently false and/or exploited.  But whatever happens, the great unwashed taxpayers should never be allowed to know the truth since all of this is done for our own good. 

I’m sure 100% total disclosure is not to be recommended & could be dangerous, however perhaps Yemen & Saudi Arabia would benefit their own people & region more if they were HONEST and PUBLIC. 

The US could reduce our cost of war significantly if they stopped shoveling millions into the hands of known corrupt flunkies.  These disclosures SHOULD be an embarrassment to the stellar diplomats who continue to spend the money of Americans who are losing homes & jobs.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 30, 2010 at 8:52 am Link to this comment

Queenie,

The Mexican drug cartel is an criminal enterprise only if you’re afraid of the truth?

WikiLeaks reason for existence is to obtain classified national security information and disseminate it.  You openly support breaking the law and causing more deaths?  If it’s for the correct cause?  Am I reading you correctly?

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By Queenie, November 30, 2010 at 3:16 am Link to this comment

Wikileaks is a criminal enterprise only to those who are afraid of the truth. Those who have spent their whole lives with blinders on. Those who live in fear and denial.

gerard, I am heart-broken, too. I weep for the country we once were. I weep for my grandchildren and all the children born into an environment that is unsustainable because of greed for more and more profit and power.

Wikileaks gives the world, all of us, a chance to face up to what has been covered up. And maybe it will give those who come after us a chance to change the direction this world is heading towards.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 30, 2010 at 1:42 am Link to this comment

gerard,

Could it be that you’re generally a dark and brooding individual with all your focus on the United States at the exclusion of all else?

You take the worst events and aspects of human nature and attribute them as singularly American.  It matters none the subject.  You place the United States, with her many ills, in the center of the universe.  Leaving all others in the role of hapless victims.

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I see the United States having saved millions of lives in the last 60 years alone and the single strongest influence lifting hundreds of millions of human beings out of abject poverty and misery all over the globe.  I see one of the worlds strongest independent judiciaries upholding the law of private property and civil human rights.  I see one of the few nations on earth who’s poorest segments of society suffer from obesity and enjoy more affluence than 90% of over six Billion people alive today.

I have asked you in the past to choose a Super Power to replace the U.S..  Can you do that?

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By gerard, November 30, 2010 at 12:47 am Link to this comment

GRYM: Could it be that my grandchildren will not have half the chances of free thought and a liberal education that I have had? 

Could it be that I have seen families wrecked and men fired from teaching jobs for refusing to testify against their friends regarding alleged membership in the Communist party. Seen teachers whose contracts were not renewed because they refused to sign so-called “loyalty oaths”?

Could it be that I know people whose relatives were among some hundred of thousands vaporized by the atomic bomb—and for no better reason than that the US military wanted to see what would happen—or better yet, ” to end the war quickly so US forces wouldn’t have to fight a land battle”—when most of the Japanese people (especially farmers) were already half starved and exhausted.

Could it be that I have watched American people grow so heartless that they will pay for 8 years of the massive killing of Iraqi and Afghan women and children, and resent Mexican workers getting emergency room care, and are hell bent on destroying Social Security?

I once believed in my country. I am heart-broken.

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By babycatajesus, November 30, 2010 at 12:12 am Link to this comment

Nothing like keeping the bastards honest! Long overdue….!

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By gerard, November 30, 2010 at 12:10 am Link to this comment

GRYM: Could it be that as a child long ago, when public schools were halfway adequate, I experienced on the one hand, honest attempts to live up to the Declaration and the Constitution, and on the other, saw the beginnings of the great betrayal of those documents?

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By gerard, November 30, 2010 at 12:07 am Link to this comment

GRYM:  Could it be that I have lived through a lot of U.S. history?

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By Go Right Young Man, November 29, 2010 at 11:49 pm Link to this comment

gerard,

Why is it, no matter the subject, you find the United States at the center of all things?  And always as the evil villain in a world of victims?

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By Go Right Young Man, November 29, 2010 at 10:34 pm Link to this comment

Let’s be clear: WikiLeaks is not a news organization; it is a criminal enterprise. Its reason for existence is to obtain classified national security information and disseminate it as widely as possible—including to the United States’ enemies. These actions are likely a violation of the Espionage Act.

- Julian Assange recently told the New Yorker he understands that innocent people may be hurt by his disclosures (“collateral damage” he called them) and that WikiLeaks might get “blood on our hands.” 

Wikileaks is one more example of a group of ideologues willing to assign death and pain for the correct cause.  Heroes to some and a danger to others.

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Is it interesting that Mr. Assange’s attorney also works Pro Bono for George Soros?  Soros, who boasts of his ability to destabilize four nation’s economies, including the Bank of London, and openly speaks of the need, in the cause of “Global Fairness”, to do the same to the United States?

All of this was caused by a single Pfc. - a 22 year old self-proclaimed anarchist with security clearance, who happens to know or stumbled upon the right group of people with the resources to organize such massive document dumps while coordinating with numerous global media outlets? Simultaneously?

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On the more positive side:  These hundreds of thousands of Wikileaks documents released over the past months brings into clear relief how there is no one group e.g., Plutocracy, MIC, BBC, running the world.  Perhaps a few more tin hats will be tossed in with the refuse.

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By gerard, November 29, 2010 at 10:12 pm Link to this comment

In the video, Clinton says something like:
  “There is nothing laudible about endangering innocent people.”
  Would that she really believed that!  Continuing our despicable stance of war and domination throughout the world endangers millions of innocent people every moment of every day of every month of every year. Of course she must know this, deep down somewhere in her well-insulated conscience. How does she sleep at night?

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By Queenie, November 29, 2010 at 8:35 pm Link to this comment

Her very presence in the world is like fingernails on a chalkboard. May a nest of pit vipers take up residence in her thousand dollar quaffed hairdo, Medusa that she is.

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