Yeah, Tarpley is a f-ing luminary. What he was saying about Jackson is that he was 100% correct to throw out the bath water, but should have kept the baby. Tarpley agrees that banks controlled by psychotic, international arsonists are bad. He’s with Jackson on that. He just doesn’t think there’s anything wrong with interest-free banks that are controlled by us, and I tend to agree. But Jackson is one of my HUGEST heroes. His dueling stories KILL me! And so do his one-liners. And his triumph over the illuminist bankers was almost miraculous.

Some Andrew Jackson quotes:

Elevate those guns a little lower.

Fear not, the people may be deluded for a moment, but cannot be corrupted.

I have always been afraid of banks.

I would sincerely regret, and which never shall happen whilst I am in office, a military guard around the President. (DieDaily note: easy for him to say, he’d been shot in the chest more than a dozen times and survived, albeit he is said to have made rattling noises)

It is a damn poor mind indeed which can’t think of at least two ways to spell any word.

Mischief springs from the power which the moneyed interest derives from a paper currency which they are able to control, from the multitude of corporations with exclusive privileges… which are employed altogether for their benefit.

Never take counsel of your fears.

There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is having lots to do and not doing it.

Unless you become more watchful in your states and check the spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that… the control over your dearest interests has passed into the hands of these corporations.

THE BEST AND MOST PERTINENT ONE:

We are beginning a new era in our government. I cannot too strongly urge the necessity of a rigid economy and an inflexible determination not to enlarge the income beyond the real necessities of the government.

(There was no income tax in Jackson’s day, anyone who proposed it would have been shot!)

Hey DieDaily:

Webster G. Tarpley, my new hero. A brilliant truth
teller. Never heard of him til now.
However, I can’t reconcile his clinically insane
characterization of Andrew Jackson
since Jackson was against the banksters controlling
the creation of money instead
of the people. That’s the reason his tombstone says:
“I KILLED THE BANK”. Like,
Ellen Brown, author of “WEB OF DEBT”, who calls for
State Banks to replace the
private criminal FED cartel, Jackson wanted the same
thing.
TBC. My tear ducts need replenishing.

Webster G. Tarpley   COMMERCIAL BANKS ARE
INDISPENSABLE
“It is of course true that the healthy functioning of
the United States economy requires a viable
and flexible system of commercial banks. No one
should doubt the necessity of commercial banks.
Andrew Jackson was clinically insane on this point,
and he still has not a few followers around
today. But it ought to be clear that without the
services of a well developed commercial banking
system, it is impossible to organize business
activities as essential as payments, deposits,
checking, payrolls, and the discounting of short-
term commercial paper, bills of exchange,
bills of lading, and all the credit instruments that
are intimately connected with real productive
activity. Without a functioning commercial banking
system, the economic heart of the United States
would stop beating, as it briefly did at the end of
the Hoover administration in March of 1933.
Without commercial banks, no wheel of a factory or
railroad can turn, and no commodities
can move to show up in supermarkets.”

Regarding Ron Paul, I see what you mean, on this one issue (economics). He’s the best possible opposition guy, nobody better, nobody more honest, and I don’t think he’s a fascist, but other than at a local or even state level, gold currency is pipe-dream except for the ultra-rich (it’s all they use, among themselves). I’m with Webster Tarpley, on that issue, which is not to abolish the central bank, just to nationalize it and make EVERY transaction publicly browsable. Like Tarpley, I think we need massive public works, government-run programs to build them, in order to get back on our feet and re-industrialize. What should be eliminated, is interest. All infrastructure, any physical production, and all basic and applied science and research drivers should be loaned their capital at no interest. A transaction tax of 1% on ANYTHING related to the stock market, financial services, and monetary instrument sales and transfers, would fund everything rather nicely and make “speculating” unprofitable. (Oh no, they’d have to get real jobs!)

Up here in Canada, there was a similar thing with NDP (New Democratic Party) which had for decades served as a great socialist opposition party. Our medical care, pensions, and various other excellent social services we enjoy up here are largely owed to the NDP pressuring the ruling party of the day via public opinion. They were ferocious and effective watchdogs, for the most part. Then they got into power in the 90’s they were instantly literally the most corrupt and incompetent government Canada had ever had. Scandal after scandal broke and they suffered a humiliating 100% defeat in the next election, never to have majority power again (so far, possibly for decades to come at least). Ron Paul’s voting record is absolutely unimpeachable, like theirs generally had been. But I fear if Ron Paul actually took power a complete economic collapse would ensue because this is one case where we can’t just “let the free market” handle things.

On the other hand, downsizing the federal government to 10% of it’s existing size (once we’re re-industrialized) is a brilliant thing, and we must do that, I feel, eventually. But I wouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water with Ron Paul. Except for this blind-spot (his economics), he’s really an incredible person. Among other things he would legalize ALL drugs and prostitution, allow gays to marry, abolish most federal police and intelligence agencies, end ALL OF OUR WARS NOW, recall all foreign troops and shut down nearly all foreign bases (the ones he would keep would be at the invitation of host countries, by public referendum only). So, the guy is awesome in many ways. It’s hard to call him “right wing”, he really isn’t, except for his economics. Above he constantly reminds people that “you can’t legislate morality, ever!”

Hey DieDaily:
I’m aware of the wicked wicki & one of the reasons
I buy books that I can evaluate,corroborate, & build
on. After watching several DVDs on the FED, for
example,
I bought the authors books. & now can separate fact
from
fiction on that topic. So when Ron Paul came out for
a return to the gold standard, I knew he was a
miscreant
fascist. I still bought his book, “END THE FED” for
confirmation. Sure enough, it’s not worth the paper
it’s printed on.
I’m still peeling layers & watching out for “fools
gold”.
Thanks for your guidance & support.

Awesome liecatcher! You are manifesting the power of your internet cognomen! One thing, though, when you go to Wiki, check out the edits page. A lot of people complain about how Wiki is prone to bias. Well, that’s an incredible understatement. In a serious debate, referencing Wiki can be considered fatal to one’s credibility. Certainly, in an academic debate, a Wiki reference will get you instantly crucified. Let’s take a look at the SPLC edits (history) page:

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Nuff said? (There are HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS like that for this article! It’s totally rediculous, incredibly slanted, and massively manipulated by fake-neolib fascists. Sure, they’re awesome if you want something like “The History of Street Cars”, as you’d expect. Otherwise, I’d trust the National Enquirer any day over Wiki.)

Your interest in the arduous, painful, and tearful process of extracting oneself from the matrix of lies we’ve been steeped in is so deeply gratifying to me I can’t begin to tell you! This is what it’s all about! But beware, the rabbit hole is so deep it makes me weep. The hard part is once you wake up to the lies, there is extreme danger of going to far and ending up in PlanetX / Reptilian Invaders land. You don’t seem to be in any danger of that! (No more Wiki though! Wiki is pathetic! Just use it as a jumping off site…if you must…)

TO DieDaily

Hey DieDaily:

You’ve had me pealing so many layers off of so many
onions
that I’ve been “crying” for hours.
Norman G. Finkelstein was an interesting study under
the
aegis of DN with Amy Goodman, but deteriorated
rapidly
on the Orwellian sites.
Ilan Pappé was more productive & the authority on
zionists.
However, when you said: “Whenever you hear of a
Synagogue
being graffiti’d or even burned, there is a 90%
chance it
was ADL provocateurism.” , you struck a positive
note &
I checked my “ROSSETA STONE”, JOHN COLEMAN’S “THE
COMMITTEE OF 300”, & sure enough the ADL is listed as
one of theirs. I couldn’t find SPLC on his list. What
I did find in WIKIPED was:
“The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is a legal
organization, internationally known for its tolerance
education programs,[1] its legal victories against
white supremacists and its tracking of organizations
it calls hate groups.[1]
The SPLC is based in Montgomery, Alabama, in the
Southern United States. It was founded in 1971 by
Morris Dees and Joseph J. Levin Jr. as a civil rights
law firm.[2] Later, civil rights leader Julian Bond
became its president.[3] In addition to free legal
service to the victims of discrimination and hate
crimes, the Center publishes a quarterly Intelligence
Report which investigates extremism and hate crimes
in the United States.”
” EUGENICS Today it is widely regarded as a brutal
movement which inflicted massive human rights
violations on millions of people.[7] The
“interventions” advocated and practised by
eugenicists involved prominently the identification
and classification of individuals and their families,
including the poor, mentally ill, blind, promiscuous
women, homosexuals and entire racial groups——such as
the Roma and Jews——as “degenerate” or “unfit”; the
segregation or institutionalisation of such
individuals and groups, their sterilization,
euthanasia, and in the extreme case of Nazi Germany,
their mass extermination”.from WIKIPED. Pure fascism.
So far, I’ve seen more links to England as the axis
of evil. Israel definitively zionists “gone wild”.
America’s province-haven’t found the connection yet.

liecatcher, I re-read my advice to you and it doesn’t give a viewpoint enough, so here is an overview instead:

From http://dissidentvoice.org/Mar07/gyaku18.htm:

THE MAINSTREAM LIE
“Now what did we challenge about 1948? I think that’s very important to understand, the old picture, and the new picture, and then we can move on. The old picture was that, in 1948, after 30 years of British rule in Palestine, the Jewish Nation of the Zionist Movement was ready to accept an international offer of peace with the local people of Palestine. And therefore when the United Nations offered to divide Palestine into two states, the Zionist movement said yes, the Arab world and the Palestinians said no; as a result the Arab world went to war in order to destroy the state of Israel, called upon the Palestinian people to leave, to make way for the invading Arab armies; the Jewish leaders asked the Palestinians not to leave, but they left; and as a result the Palestinian refugee problem was created. Israel miraculously won the war, and became a fact. And ever since then, the Arab world and the Palestinians have not ceased to want to destroy the Jewish state.”

THE HISTORICAL TRUTH:
“What we found challenged most of this mythology. First of all, we found out that the Zionist leadership, the Israeli leadership, regardless of the peace plans of the United Nations, contemplated long before 1948 the dispossession of the Palestinians, the expulsion of the Palestinians. So it was not that as a result of the war that the Palestinians lost their homes. It was as a result of a Jewish, Zionist, Israeli, call it what you want, plan that Palestine was ethnically cleansed in 1948 of its original indigenous population.”

AND

“as I wrote in my latest book, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, that actually already in the 1930s the Israeli—then it was not Israeli, it was a pre-state leadership—had contemplated and systematically planned the expulsion of the Palestinians in 1948.”

AND

“After doing that, I felt still very haunted by ‘48, I felt that the story was not complete. I wrote two books on 1948, and I felt it was not enough. And then came the new archives. In 1998, the Israelis opened the military archives. As I said, they opened political archives after 30 years, but military archives after 1990. And then I felt I had even a more complete picture, not only of ‘48, but unfortunately, of how ‘48 lives inside Israel today. And the new documents, I think, show very clearly, although I knew it before, but the new documents show even more clearly, if you needed more evidence, that the Zionist movement, from the very beginning, it realized that in the land of Palestine someone else lives. That the only solution would be to get rid of these people.”

—-

The best material is from the work of dissident PhD Jewish scholars. There is so much crap written by racist non-Jews that one has to be exceedingly careful, though I have found some good material in support of what the Jews themselves are exposing about the segregationist state of Israel.

It is my finding that 90% of these White Pride Nazi type racists can trace their funding or recruitment back to Israel and Jewish influenced organizations, particularly the tax-free foundations. The largest center of this pestilence in the US is the Southern Poverty Law Center…truly an epicenter of evil, created by the Eugenicist Margaret Sanger who said “blacks are not human”. For instance, the Oklahoma City Bombings were run out of the SPLC. (Yes, I can prove that!)

You see the Zionist plan will fail epically if they can’t keep their Jews feeling separated and alienated from everyone else. What they fear most is that all of us will come together. Whenever you hear of a Synagogue being graffiti’d or even burned, there is a 90% chance it was ADL provocateurism. Israel is the grandmaster false-flag state.

To DieDaily, January 2 at 2:07 pm

Since I know that time is the most valuable thing we
have,
can’t save it, only spend it, I truly appreciate your
spending
some of your time steering me in the right direction.
All of
the research I’ve done up to now pointed to England,
through
its central bank, having recolonized the U.S. through
the FED’s
“WEB OF DEBT”.
Now, thinking of the U.S. as a province of Israel,
has knocked
my socks off. However, I’m on it. Thanks !!!

Oh man, truly thanks, but it would take 50 pages or more to scratch the surface of the bloody, duplicitous and terroristic birth of Israel. Here’s my advice:

Joan Peters’ 1984 “From Time Immemorial” is the worst pack of lies ever written on the subject, it’s an absolute farce of non-scholarship, but it was mainstream gospel for so long it’s often quoted and rehashed ad nauseum…and I mean nauseum. This book is State-Department-sponsored CRAPPITY CRAP CRAP CRAP.

But, it had a very important purpose: it resulted in this seminal work of profound and meticulous scholarship:

Norman G. Finkelstein’s “The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering” (Verso, 2000). See http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/ for, as Carl Sagan would say “Billions and Billions of” interesting articles too. And his other books.

Finkelstein is one of countless very brave and daring Jews who have suffered immensely at the hands of the Zionists for speaking peaceful truth to fascist power. He has spent much time living in Palestine with Arabs, and in NY with Jews. He’s an unimpeachably accurate and meticulous scholar, and by no means a fanatic of any sort, whatever the ADL might spout on about. Noam Chomsky (whom I adore and admire to no end) essentially got him going on the subject and helped him get his start. Noam is less belligerent in his tone and choice of words, whereas Finkelstein is one really pissed off Jew! He’s awesome. He so pissed at Israel because all of his relatives on both sides were slaughtered by the Nazi’s except his mom and dad. They themselves survived the camps, barely, and were in the Warzaw Ghetto uprising. So when he gets called an anti-Semite, he intellectually wipes the floor with his creds as well as his facts. Fascinating man. Great starting point for understanding Israel. Especially great because it demonstrates so well that many Jews are totally anti-Zionist, more and more by the minute.

Jews are waking up to Zionism like Amerikans are waking up to the Bush/Cheney crimes, and now those of Bush3. It’s a wonderfully similar process. Just as most of us Americans should not be hated for Bush/Cheney/Obama (we were fooled!), it is INSANE to think that most Jews should be hated for the crimes of Zionism (they were fooled way, way, way worse right on the heals of a pogrom that, with good reason, scared the crap out of nearly all of them. I would definitely have bought the same lies if I belonged to an ethnic group that had been through a community trauma like that and then been worked over by a heinous pack of expert propagandists).

TO DieDaily, January 2 at 7:57 am

I’ve gone back to The Balfour Declaration of 1917 to

try & make sense of it.

You’ve got my attention. Please fill in the blanks for
me.

liecatcher…Gosh, no! Israel isn’t the 51st state of the US; how could you say such a mean thing. We’re 7th province of Israel!

Hey DieDaily:

Is it the same with Israel & why some folks refer to
Israel as the 51st state?

Well, y’all, I don’t think it’s a valid question. So far the comments don’t quite capture the fundamental point. North Korea is and has for a long, long time been a US puppet state. We feed them, we send them aid, and we never do anything to their government elite who live like kings on our tab. Whenever we need a convenient menace, we get some serious saber rattling from them right on cue. Whenever we need to give a fake liberal president some creds we get some “conciliatory overtures” from them right on cue. Is this actually not obvious to anyone?

Hey gerard:

When you said:

“Of course it’s not all Obama’s fault because most of
it happened long before he was elected. 
Sorry.  You don’t add up.”

I reread what I wrote & realized that I failed to be
clear about “we” meaning we the people versus the MIC
& the miscreants running the government,who become
rich as they lie,cheat,steal & are responsible for countless thousands of deaths. The same
vermin who have outsourced our jobs, bankrupted the
country, passed a healthcare hoax bill to benefit the
MEDICAL INSURANCE PHARMACEUTIC INDUSTRIAL CONSPIRACY,
& screw we the people. You are correct that “our”
governments foreign policy regarding Korea, which has
cost we the people $billions started long before
Bush3 was installed to finish what “W” started.
The Germans on the other hand, are building energy
efficient homes in S. Korea, have a school,The
International German School in Hannam, Seoul, which
builds good will & is a plus for the German economy.
So the relevance of the German bit is that lobbyists
will promote programs to benefit their clients & the
legislators who are supposed to represent we the
people sell their souls to Mammon.
I hope it adds up now. If not, I’ll try again.

LIECATCHER:  And we have not lied, cheated, ripped other people off? And are we about to change?

“The MILITARY INDUSTRIAL CONSPIRACY that is benefiting from all the perpetual wars will not allow friendship even if it was possible.(Strange you bring this up!—making what point?)

So N.Korea’s military is responsible for starving Americans? And they “sell nuclear information and weapons to other countries IN DIRECT COMPETITION TO THE US.”  Does this mean US competes with NK in selling nukes to other countries?  Reminder:  US invented nukes, used them twice, then sold them to several other countries regardless of grave dangers—a criminal error.
And what’s the relevance of the German bit?

Of course it’s not all Obama’s fault because most of it happened long before he was elected.

Sorry.  You don’t add up.

WHY CAN’T WE BE FRIENDS ?

Because they’ve lied, cheated, & ripped us off every
chance they could, and aren’t about to change now.

So much for the “FRIENDS” question.

The MILITARY INDUSTRIAL CONSPIRACY that is benefiting
from all the perpetual wars will not allow friendship
even if it was possible.We provided them with butter
so they can have one of the largest armies in the
world while not only their population starves, but
Americans as well. Oh, and let’s not forget that they sell nuclear information & weapons to other countries in direct competition to the U.S., the largest arms dealer in the world.
Our military over there are treated like shit.
Countries like Germany have lobbyists here to make
sure the money keeps flowing to their businesses
there.
Just another example of the whores in Congress & the
predator in the W.H. continuing to screw we the
people while pursuing a fascist agenda.

We should take them up on it immediately.  Everyone would be better off.

I don’t know what will happen if North Korea liberalizes itself.  It has long been a reliable staple of right-wing discourse as an example of the evils of Communism.