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When Conservatives Celebrate Terrorists

Posted on Jan 3, 2011
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Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani is among the prominent conservative figures calling for the United States to drop the MEK from its list of terrorist organizations.

What to make of conservatives Rudy Giuliani, Michael Mukasey, Tom Ridge and Fran Townsend celebrating the officially designated terrorist organization Mujaheddin-e Khalq? Glenn Greenwald has some ideas.

(More background here.)

Glenn Greenwald on Salon:

The reason there isn’t more uproar over these Bush officials’ overt foreign-soil advocacy on behalf of a Terrorist group is because they want to use that group’s Terrorism to advance U.S. aims. Using Terrorism on behalf of American interests is always permissible, because the actual definition of a Terrorist—the one that our political and media class universally embraces—is nothing more than this: “someone who impedes or defies U.S. will with any degree of efficacy.”

Even though the actions of these Bush officials violate every alleged piety about bashing one’s own country on foreign soil and may very well constitute a felony under U.S. law, they will be shielded from criticisms because they want to use the Terrorist group to overthrow a government that refuses to bow to American dictates. Embracing Terrorist groups is perfectly acceptable when used for that end. That’s why Fran Townsend will never suffer the fate of Octavia Nasr, and why her fellow Bush officials will never be deemed Terrorist supporters by the DOJ or establishment media outlets, even though what they’ve done makes them, by definition, exactly that.

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By fearnotruth, January 6, 2011 at 12:20 am Link to this comment

28 December 2010

Iran hangs man convicted of spying for Israel’s Mossad

The hanging took place at Tehran’s Evin prison

Iran has hanged a man after finding him guilty of spying for Israel’s intelligence
service, the official Irna news agency says.

Ali Akbar Siadat, an Iranian, was executed inside Tehran’s Evin prison,
according to judicial officials.

Irna said he was in contact with the Israeli spy agency Mossad for several years,
and had passed on information about Iran’s military activities.


Irna said a second man, Ali Saremi, was also hanged on Tuesday.

Saremi was alleged to be a member of the opposition group, People’s
Mujahideen Organisation of Iran (PMOI) - which Tehran says is a terrorist

He had been arrested several times since 1983.

The authorities say that when he was arrested for the final time in 2007, they
found CDs, photos and hand-written documents about the PMOI in his

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By ali, January 5, 2011 at 12:42 pm Link to this comment
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On July 16 2010, a federal appeals court in the
United States ordered the State Department to re-
examine a controversial decision to maintain the PMOI
on its list of Foreign Terrorist Organisations. The
ruling was a major victory for the PMOI in its 13-
year legal battle to get off the FTO list.

There has been bipartisan support in the congress for
MEK since 1985.

The official United States (U.S.) governmental
investigation in 2003-2004 of all 3,800 MEK members
then living in Camp Ashraf, Iraq (which included
individual interviews and DNA samples to determine
whether any had been involved in terrorist
activities), resulted in a finding that none had been
and that there was “no basis to charge members of
[the MEK] with violations of American law.”.

On Nov 30, 2007 the British Court, The Proscribed
Organisations Appeal Commission (POAC) ruled to the
annulment of the terrorist designation and ordered
the British government to remove PMOI off the
terrorist list. The judgment was implemented in the
United Kingdom six months later.

The PMOI’s ideology is a moderate and anti-
fundamentalist interpretation of Islam believing in
democracy and equality.

Their interpretation of Islam the Quran says that the
most important characteristic distinguishing man from
animals is his free will. It is on this basis that
human beings are held accountable. Without freedom,
no society can develop or progress. Although its
leaders presents themselves as Muslims, the PMOI
describes itself as a secular organization: “The
National Council of Resistance believes in the
separation of Church and State.”

The PMOI is the first entities that revealed Iran’s
nuclear activities in 2002, which has turned to be a
major concern for the US and some of its allies

In January 2009, the European Union removed the group
from its list of terrorist organizations. The EU had
considered PMOI a terrorist organization starting in
2002, and the group had been lobbying for its removal
from the list since that time. The move by the
European courts unfroze the organization’s assets, of
which it said about $9 million was in France and tens
of millions of dollars were elsewhere throughout the
rest of the union.

Nelson Mandela was called terrorist by incompetent
state department. There is NOTHING against MEK that
justify being in the list. All your information about
MEK is MIS-INFORMATION. This misinformation was
designed by the Iranian intelligent service to
dehumanize MEK.

I encourage readers to read about MEK/PMOI by
and Maryam Rajavi site:

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By iran, January 4, 2011 at 12:36 pm Link to this comment
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When it comes to Iran. Only the Iranian government is considered a state sponsored terrorist. Research Iranian opposition before labeling them.

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By PatrickHenry, January 4, 2011 at 7:38 am Link to this comment

I guess the MEK lobbyists got their man.

I wonder how much Rudy’s endorsement cost?  It wasn’t free.

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By fearnotruth, January 4, 2011 at 5:57 am Link to this comment

from the Salon article: ...the MEK has been involved in numerous violent
actions over the years, including many directed at Americans, such as “the
1979 takeover of the U.S. embassy in Tehran by Iranian revolutionaries”

consider this:

Imperial Playground: The Story of Iran in Recent History

by Andrew Gavin Marshall - Global Research, October 4, 2007


“In November 1978, President Carter named the
Bilderberg group’s George Ball, another member of the Trilateral Commission,
to head a special White House Iran task force under the National Security
Council’s Brzezinski. Ball recommended that Washington drop support for the
Shah of Iran and support the fundamentalist Islamic opposition of Ayatollah
Robert Bowie from the CIA was one of the lead ‘case officers’ in the
new CIA-led coup against the man their covert actions had placed into power
25 years earlier.”59 This is further corroborated by author and journalist,
Webster Tarpley in his book, George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography, in
which he stated, “Carter and Brzezinski had deliberately toppled the Shah of
Iran, and deliberately installed [Ayatollah] Khomeni in power.
This was an
integral part of Brzezinski’s ‘arc of crisis’ geopolitical lunacy, another made-in-
London artifact which called for the US to support the rise of Khomeni, and his
personal brand of fanaticism, a militant heresy within Islam. U.S. arms deliveries
were made to Iran during the time of the Shah; during the short-lived
Shahpour Bakhtiar government at the end of the Shah’s reign; and continuously
after the advent of Khomeni.”60 The Defense and Foreign Affairs Daily reported
in their March 2004 edition that, “In 1978 while the West was deciding to
remove His Majesty Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi from the throne, [Ayatollah]
Shariatmadari was telling anyone who would listen not to allow ‘Ayatollah’
Ruhollah Khomeini and his velayat faghih (Islamic jurist) version of Islam to be
allowed to govern Iran.
Ayatollah Shariatmadari noted: ‘We mullahs will behave
like bickering whores in a brothel if we come to power ... and we have no
experience on how to run a modern nation so we will destroy Iran and lose all
that has been achieved at such great cost and effort’.”61 This was exactly the
point of putting them in power, as it would destabilize an industrializing
country, and as William Engdahl further pointed out, “Their scheme was based
on a detailed study of the phenomenon of Islamic fundamentalism, as
presented by British Islamic expert, Dr. Bernard Lewis, then on assignment at
Princeton University in the United States. Lewis’ scheme, which was unveiled at
the May 1979 Bilderberg meeting in Austria, endorsed the radical Muslim
Brotherhood movement behind Khomeni, in order to promote balkanization of
the entire Muslim Near East along tribal and religious lines. Lewis argued that
the West should encourage autonomous groups
such as the Kurds, Armenians,
Lebanese Maronites, Ethiopian Copts, Azerbaijani Turks, and so forth. The
chaos would spread in what he termed an ‘Arc of Crisis,’ which would spill over
into the Muslim regions of the Soviet Union.”62


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By RayLan, January 4, 2011 at 5:24 am Link to this comment

“they want to use the Terrorist group to overthrow a government that refuses to bow to American “
American expceptionalism in action. Moral immunity where the ends justifies the means. As the ‘Church Lady’ said in Saturday Night Live - ‘isn’t that special’.

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By Robespierre115, January 4, 2011 at 2:42 am Link to this comment

And it’s not just with Iran, Miami has been a base for US-backed terrorism against Cuba since the 1960s. Luis Posada Carriles, who bombed a Cuban airliner, killing over 70 civilians lives as a free man with FBI protection.

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By TAO Walker, January 3, 2011 at 10:57 pm Link to this comment

Too bad even this glaring example of institutionalized idiocy probably won’t help most among the “huddled masses” to recognize, finally, just which side of the-gates-of-hell they’re trapped on.  This Old Indian once died and was reborn there, so there’s no mystery about it here in Indian Country.

Maybe that GOD-damned Snake could tell people….but then, He lies.


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By glider, January 3, 2011 at 9:39 pm Link to this comment

Good to see a Glenn Greenwald article here.  Hope to see more of him and less of “Democrat” lackey Eugene in the future.

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By gerard, January 3, 2011 at 9:14 pm Link to this comment

Well, my frank opinion is that nobody is going to want to step into this minefield! The main source for this seems to be Global which boasts of “reliable security information” and is based in Alexandria, Va.  No names appear as responsible parties, but the “secure store” is “Powered by U.S. Cavalry” and a number of articles cite VOA as the source.  The overview of contents of articles (after stating that they present facts not opinions” contains many caveats such as “the information is of variable quality”, “most likely”, “may”. “experts disagree” and “most likely contains some mistakes.”
  Greenwald’s point about what is and what is not a “terrorist” group, and who says so and when, is a vitally important question that should be opened for discussion in a most forthright manner. Using this venue here as a starter is not helpful because (at least as I see it) confusion is rife and the purpose of at one point “classifying” a group as “terrorist” and at another more convenient time “unclassifying it, raises the whole bee’s nest of who does classifying, and unclassifying, when, how and why.  The entire process ought to be open public information.  It is not, and that is a large part of its danger.
  The more “secure” (that is, secret) such processes become, the more insecure we all are. This, by the way is one of the main points evidenced in the release of the recent WikiLeaks material which the government will try to punish rather than use as a self-corrective. That the government does not seem to have sense enough to self-correct, even in the face of dire failures in Iraq and Afghanistan, is tragic.

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