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We’re Here, We’re Severe, Get Used to It

Posted on Dec 27, 2009
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China has plenty of Prada and an economy to match, but don’t think Beijing has gone soft on “stability preservation.” A speech published by state media shortly after a prominent dissident was thrown in the can encourages security forces to “Strike hard against hostile forces at home and abroad.”

The exact meaning of that phrase and the accompanying speech is a matter for soothsayers and China scholars, of which there has never been a shortage. What is known is that Big Red is as sensitive as ever to rumblings in the provinces of Xinjian and Tibet, as well as other “hostile forces stirring up chaos and sabotage.”  —PZS

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In a speech on December 18 to security officials, published only on Monday, Yang singled out perceived threats from political foes of the ruling Communist Party, including separatist sentiment in the far-western regions of Tibet and Xinjiang.

“The schemes of Western anti-China forces seeking to Westernize and split us, friction and disputes between countries, and hostile forces stirring up chaos and sabotage ... remain major factors affecting our national security and social stability,” Yang said in his address.

“Strike hard against hostile forces at home and abroad. “Strive to anticipate and prevent, staging pre-emptive attacks.”

“Hostile forces” is a sweeping Chinese term for perceived political threats to Communist Party rule.

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By dmolino21, December 28, 2009 at 5:56 pm Link to this comment

I see the Chinese Communists as going the way of the Berlin Wall. The fact is human beings cannot live comfortably under a dictatorship. Being uncomfortable they will riot. Someone is to blame, some sacrificial lamb must be handed over or else they will take you. That is how governments think. To say, or even to send over some unspoken thought, that they must take it is foolhardy. A government shouldn’t even attempt to be a dictatorship in this enlightened age. Putting myself in their shoes, I can visualize several incidents of rioting as being threatening and also there are the victims. What do you do when some newly made widow approaches for help and the press is nearby? Or some new busnissman comes to you for help because his store has burned down? Here in the United States we usually dole out some money. There things are different because they are close to broke. Partially from lending so much money to the United States. What with the world economy being in such dire straits, the Chinese government panicked. They asked for their money back and instead ended up loaning us more through the powers of persuasion of Barack Obama. As far as that goes, so did a lot of American citizens panic. As well they should. This isn’t over yet. I have said many times that our stock market is priced way too high and yet here it is back again. It is not the safe way to leverage your money. Diverify, that is always the answer. Don’t put all your eggs (symbol for money)in one basket. That old saying has a lot of truth in it.

We’re here, we’re severe, get used to it! That sounds like something a lion would say, if lions could talk. Connecting ourselves with an animal is like retrogressing in our reincarnations. It is going backwards. We want to take steps forward not back. Love, Peace, Wisdom and Joy.

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By gerard, December 28, 2009 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment

“The schemes of Western anti-China forces seeking to Westernize and split us, friction and disputes between countries, and hostile forces stirring up chaos and sabotage ... remain major factors affecting our national security and social stability,” Yang said in his address.

Note:  “seeking to Westernize and split us”—that is, recongnition that capitalism tends to split community, communality, togetherness.
  “hostile forces stirring up chaos and sabotage”—that is, multipliciity, cosmopolitanism, world-mindedness destroys ordained order, undercuts conformity.
  ie: Us versus Them feeling of isolation.  Our unity and social stability depend on acceptance of sameness, knowing what to expect, uniformity.
  Comment:  Very human.  Fear of loss of identity being swallowed up by strangers; being only one mixed up with a lot of others who are different, don’t understand, etc.  Feeling that change is hostile and chaotic. Just when you think you have things under control, something (someone) comes along and upsets your applecart.
  Sounds pretty much like a lot of other non-Chinese human beings.
  Problem:  How to help people work together, integrate, feel at home in the world, share common human characteristics of affection, understanding, cooperation, fairness, enjoyment.
  It’s coming.  It just ain’t here yet.  Be the change.

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By dmolino21, December 28, 2009 at 1:50 pm Link to this comment

The Headline: “We’re here, we’re severe, get used to it!” says too much. Get used to severe? Not by a long shot. Jesus Christ taught love, not severity! That is what’s wrong with the church today, too much severity. China’s hanging onto Communism by it’s thumbnails. We are in a difficult position. It’s hard to bite the hand that feeds you. We owe China a lot of money. Besides all of that, we don’t want to upset the delicate balance over there. They are heading for Democracy, and we think that is good. A kind of merging of the two ideologies is similiar to what happens in a marriage. What is disliked in this is the harshness of the laws and politicians. “Thou shall not kill!” is one of God’s laws. Yet the police shoot real bullets at protestors and kill them. There ought to be a law against killing protestors. If someone would listen to their case and act on it, this wouldn’t be happening. If there are enough protestors to make the government afraid then something is definitely wrong. It needs to be corrected. Someone needs to be arrested or step down. Love, Peace, Wisdom and Joy.

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By P. T., December 28, 2009 at 10:19 am Link to this comment

“China has plenty of Prada and an economy to match”

Not if you’re a peasant.  The current massive unrest in rural areas, involving literally hundreds of thousands of incidents with protesting peasants, is one reason why Chinese leaders are so interested in “stability preservation.”

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By glider, December 28, 2009 at 5:45 am Link to this comment

Yeah, we are different in a matter of degree only and appear to be converging ever closer.  We have 2 limited controlled and highly constrained parties both serving the same lobbyist masters and no escape from them is allowed either.  They have one such party.  Big whoop for American Democracy.  I hope a truly open ended multi-runnoff style Democracy driven by people’s desires ever sees the light of day.

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By C.Curtis.Dillon, December 28, 2009 at 4:39 am Link to this comment

It is interesting that our corporate class feared Communism back when it was a direct competitor to capitalism.  They fought tooth and nail to destroy this competing ideology.  Now, notice our corporate elite embrace with open arms the “Communist” Chinese government which has embraced capitalism and provides the perfect police state for controlling the populace when it rebels against capitalism’s excesses.  I’m told that Putin and his cadre in Moscow are studying carefully the Chinese model to see if it will work in Russia.  And I am sure the corporate elite in Europe and America are similarly seeing how they can incorporate this model into our “democracy”.  We can already see traces of the ideas in the over reaction of our police and politicians whenever there are serious demonstrations against them (the G20 summit in Pittsburgh and the climate summit in Copenhagen).  I think we can all see the future ... capitalism backed up by repressive dictatorial governments.  Are we enjoying ourselves yet?

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By DieDaily, December 28, 2009 at 2:56 am Link to this comment

Mary, so true, our leaders look at China and they DROOL WITH ENVY. I wonder how long it will take our government to finish the job over here. As long as our intellectual class continues to bow and scrape to totalitarianism-for-the-collective-good methods and ideas (as they load up at Walmart) then I’d say just under a decade.

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By Mary Ann McNeely, December 27, 2009 at 10:28 pm Link to this comment

The mercantile tyranny of China is a preview of the future United States when constitutional rule has disappeared simply because it was ignored by all branches of government and made to simply wither away.

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