#66037 by Centurion on 4/24 at 7:27 am;  “...Thanks to women’s libbers and the media - you have made pansies out of a large part of our young males…Had just one or two of the students helped the brave professor, possibly many more would have survived…..”

Ironically, that is exactly what Cho was trying to express - in the only way that Western society had taught ..... violence = manhood!

But then, there is a (large) section of the female population which desires a captive male to provide for them or to otherwise pander to them. Then again, our governments also love to have an enslaved captive population (especially the males) to carry out their every whim.

I do NOT agree with your other comment, though, about “...one student or the professor had a licensed concealed handgun…”. That only takes things full circle and violence would become ever more entrenched as a righteous response or as a method of dealing with demonstrative mental upsets generally.

There was a time when police shooting the mentally disabled, mentally retarded or depressed people or those with bipolar disorder was the norm. That was NEVER the right way to deal with those problems but governments had abandoned funding programs or clinics for treating and helping these people. The price of a bullet was a cheaper alternative.

Let’s’ share a moment of silence for the two hundred brave and innoccent Iraqi’s
who lost their lives today, because of the violence and the destruction that the U.S.A delivered to their country….!

Well said douglas chalmers and allan scheer. what happened is not the problem, it is the result of some serious problems in global societies these days.

there is rage and some people feel they have no resources or outlets for it.

unfortunately, although this the the outcry this week, very few will take personal responsibility for this type of thing in their own lives, and it will continue to happen ....

somewhere

“A SOUTH Korean student railed against ‘rich kids, debauchery and deceitful charlatans’ in a note he left behind before carrying out the deadliest school shooting in US history…....The 23-year-old student wrote: ‘You caused me to do this,’ in a several-page-long note that he left in his dorm room…...The note began in the present tense and then shifted to the past tense as Cho Seung-Hui explained his actions amid a rambling list of grievances cited by the Chicago Tribune….......

Cho wrote the note in his dorm room after he killed two people in another dorm room, ABC reported. He then re-armed and went to a classroom building on the other side of campus where he killed 30 more people before shooting himself in the head, sources told ABC. Cho had also shown recent signs of ‘violent, aberrant behavior’, including stalking women and setting a fire in a dorm room, investigators in Virginia told the Chicago Tribune…....”
 
If it helps in understanding, something like this only on a smaller scale happened at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia too almost 5 years ago (search “Monash Melbourne shooting”) or see  http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/21/1034561430158.html
It seems that there are a number of depressing circumstances and anxiety-producing situations affecting foreign students in Australia as well as the USA. Some of these relate to their courses and university management and expensive housing/accommodation is a factor often too.

Another problem some students face is a lack of empathy from local people and a feeling of being shut out of society generally. I have always gone out of my way to make friends with as many of these young people as I meet. It is a little late, though, after psychological stress turns to desperation - and then to doing desperate things!

I’ve read the comments and still shake my head. This is called a massacre where an individual kills more than 30 people on a University campus. Sad, and a reflection of our times.

But I can’t help hearing the echoes of the cries and screams of Kent State students on May 4, 1970, when the Ohio National Guard opened fire on student protesters. Of course, that is generally labeled a “tragedy” rather than a massacre. After all, the National Guard only killed four unarmed students, and wounded nine others.

This is not about gun control, or safety in the schools. This is about a civilian population that opposes a government that is taking actions to suppress and hinder rather than help. You can take the guns away and people will still kill, you can try to box and contain people from basic freedoms or having outlets and alternative forms of expression, and the violence will still come.

The public outcry in the U.S. is being ignored, and these “incidents” will become more horrible unless and until rational and open communication and dialogue start everywhere, from the smallest community to internationally. Families don’t talk, friends detach and limit themselves to surface relationships and dialogues that are essentially meaningless.

What is showing at the national level is merely an outgrowth of what has been and will continue to happen within each individual’s space and awareness.

I sigh, because I see no way around any of the increase of violence that I am certain is coming. I find this tragedy so sad, but I find the misunderstandings and lack of awareness of the commentaries and news reactions even more discouraging.

Haven’t we grown up since that day in 1970?

You can start reading more about Kent State at Wikipedia’s site:

Ken State Shootings

I am deeply saddened at this tragic loss of those young lives! Though none of the victims is known to me or related to me personally, I feel like if each of them was a son or daughter I personally lost. With this loss I feel like America is loosing another part of its soul and innocence.
 
I am particularly saddened because I spent my last twenty-five years on several college campuses, teaching and dealing with young men and women, in whom I saw a hope for a better and more enlightened America vis-à-vis the corrupted souls of the old worn recycled politicians who have been leading this country towards perdition.

Though I myself belong to this old generation, I lost hope in trusting any politician older than forty. I do strongly believe that the salvation of this country lies in a new younger and more enlightened generation of civil servants, of diverse ethnic backgrounds, to replace the old archaic set of mostly white male politicians, republicans and democrats, who are increasingly becoming more corrupt, senile and soulless with every passing day; especially under Bush and gang.
 
May the souls of these young students rest in peace, and may the Almighty Merciful God heal the deepening wounds of this America!

karl rove orchestrated this to take the spot light off the gonzales hearings.  or maybe ABC did it to boost nightlines ratings.

JohnDWoodSr, the rest of my list were attacks that have already happened.

Boggs,
You’re right, but this kind of violence has been around for a long time.It does seem to happen more often lately,I think partly because of increased stresses in dealing with everyday life,and partly due to a lessening of the value of life in general.The swaggering war-monger running this country certainly contributes to the problem by his demonstrated disdain for the lives of others.

I don’t see the gun issue as a losing talk point with the Democrats. After all, I have never seen a hunter hunting elk or any other wild game with an AK47 or any
other type of assault rifle, that is if you are a practiced shot. If it is your intention to shoot your hunting buddy in the face, then you might want the assault weapon….
It is dishonest (whats new?) when the R’s
claim that we want to disarm the public.
That statement is a blatant lie. A Republican lie.

Frank,
Maybe, just maybe, that’s why they made boxcutters on airplanes illegal.The rest of your list sounds like you’re trying to give the next wacko nutcase killer more options.
Peace

JohnDWoodsSr.,
The more accurate headline would read something like this:MORE SHOOT FROM THE HIP-“JUSTICE, BUSH STYLE.” This kind of event has become so common place since the coupe of our government in 2000 and again in 2004 that we barely blink…..
It’s just one more element of the “CRIME FAMILY” that is running Washington DC.

JohnDWoodSr wrote:  “One headline you will never see: 33 DEAD IN CAMPUS KNIFE ATTACK”

No? How about ‘3000 DEAD AFTER AIRLINE BOXCUTTER ATTACK’ ?

There are other ways this guy could have committed mass murder without a gun if he was intent on killing. Bombs, chaining dorms shut and setting fire to them, slamming a speeding car into a crowd of students.

There are more important issues we have to face than the tool he chose to murder with.

This would be a very sad event if I had any tears or pain left to feel or spend.
Unfortunately all my tears and pain are for the Iraqi civilians that we are delivering death and mutilation to on a daily mission.
They really are afraid to attend their schools, or even go to worship or shop at the neighborhood markets.
We should get ready to recieve our paybacks for the way we have treated other countries with our “foreign policy”,
we have a lot of enemies building their case against us.
Who knows, if this VT shooting wasn’t the will of Falwells God, then perhaps it was one of our very real “liberated” enemies.

One headline you will never see:
33 DEAD IN CAMPUS KNIFE ATTACK

One headline you will certainly see:
NRA CLAIMS GUNMAN DID NOT TAKE NRA GUN SAFETY COURSE.

Coming Drudge headline:
SHOOTER IDENTIFIED AS LOVE CHILD OF BARACK AND HILLARY

“We’re all locked in our dorms surfing the Internet trying to figure out what’s going on,” ‘one student said.

They are depending on you.

Are you taking measures to insure your information is correct?

33 dead, huh?

CNN says 32.

BBC says 31.

Why do you insist on reporting a story before you have any real idea of what actually happened?

Could it be sensationalism? 

Well, at least you don’t have multiple popups yet.
http://www.cnn.com

But I won’t be surprised when it happens.

Peace,
Bob

The number fatalities ‘rose’ from 32 to 31.

The truth is, they have no idea how many fatalities there are. 

Moment by Moment reporting is extremely error prone, and unfortunately, the whole stories are never told.

The news media no longer produces ‘stories’. Rather, they inundate us with bursts of disconnected, and badly collected, data.

sigh…

Again, I am not surprised.