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Vatican: Pope Has Immunity in Abuse Cases

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Posted on Apr 1, 2010
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On Thursday, the Vatican’s top legal official pointed out that Pope Benedict XVI won’t be implicated in any of the sex abuse cases currently under investigation, as he is technically a head of state. Also, the Vatican would like The New York Times to “reconsider its attack mode” regarding the pope.

Reuters via Yahoo News:

Dalla Torre outlined the Vatican’s strategy to defend the pope from being forced to testify in several lawsuits concerning sexual abuse which are currently moving through the U.S. legal system.

“The pope is certainly a head of state, who has the same juridical status as all heads of state,” he said, arguing he therefore had immunity from foreign courts.

Lawyers representing victims of sexual abuse by priests in several cases in the United States have said they would want the pope to testify in an attempt to try to prove the Vatican was negligent.

But the pope is protected by diplomatic immunity because more than 170 countries, including the United States, have diplomatic relations with the Vatican. They recognize it as a sovereign state and the pope as its sovereign head.

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By Theodore, May 2, 2010 at 2:51 pm Link to this comment
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THERE’S BEEN TOO MUCH SHIT CHATTERED ABOUT ON THE NET AND MEDIA CONCERNING THE POPE, CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND PEDOPHILIA! THAT DOESN’T SHAKE ME. WHAT SHAKES ME IS THAT THESE CHATTERERS ARE WORSE SINNERS IN THEIR OWN BEDROOMS, AND SHOPS, AND BACKYARDS…! SORRY. YOU NOW HAVE CHANCE TO TALK OUT OF MERE HATRED. “Let him who has no sin be the first to throw the stone!” CHATERERS, ENJOY YOUR FIELD DAY!

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By melpol, April 6, 2010 at 11:05 am Link to this comment

The cries of sodomized altar boys have echoed all through the universe. Even the
Lord up high has heard its sounds. Those that have preferred a altar boys anus to
the teachings of the Bible must be punished.

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By John Small Berries, April 6, 2010 at 7:38 am Link to this comment
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Falling back on a defense of diplomatic immunity certainly doesn’t bespeak a high degree of confidence in the assertion that then-Cardinal Ratzinger was not involved in the coverup.

A man wholly innocent of the charges would not have to protest that he cannot be touched because he is a head of state (or have his spokespeople make the protestations for him).

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By melpol, April 2, 2010 at 1:14 pm Link to this comment

The ball is in the court of those that claim millions of choir boys were Sexually
violated by priests. It should not be up to the priests to prove their innocence.
Unless the accusers produce millions of adults that were sexually violated as
children the claims should be considered bogus.

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By amunaor, April 2, 2010 at 12:28 pm Link to this comment

Pope Ratzinger, while Cardinal under Pope John Paul, headed up the “The Office of Inquisition” - the good old boys Rotisserie Club, in 1983, euphemistically, recast as: The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

So, now, this god of fire, as head of State claims to be immune from any inquiry…the inscrutable patriarchal dictator without a Queen.

Michael Baigent - Inquisition: The Reign of Fear

http://www.amazon.com/Inquisition-Reign-Fear-Toby-Green/dp/0312537247/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1270236152&sr=8-1


Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

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By Ouroborus, April 2, 2010 at 1:43 am Link to this comment

Given the quotes below regarding the pope’s
relationship to God and Christ:

These words are written in the Roman Canon Law 1685:
“To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the
power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed
heretical.”

Father A. Pereira says: “It is quite certain that
Popes have never approved or rejected this title
‘Lord God the Pope,’ for the passage in the gloss
referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law
published in Rome in 1580 by Gregory XIII.”

Writers on the Canon Law say, “The Pope and God are
the same, so he has all power in heaven and earth.”
Barclay Cap. XXVII, p. 218. Cities Petrus Bertrandus,
Pius V. - Cardinal Cusa supports his statement.

Pope Nicholas I declared: “the appellation of God had
been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who, being
God, cannot be judged by man.”
Labb IX Dist.: 96 Can. 7, Satis evidentur, Decret
Gratian Primer Para

“The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus
Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the
veil of flesh.”
Catholic National, July 1895

“We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty”
Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894

The above comes from;
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=258966

It’s ludicrous, not to mention a gross hypocrisy; to
issue a statement to the effect the pope is above
prosecution for the abuses of the church.
If it weren’t so pathetic it would be laughable.

I don’t need constant reminders of why I quit the
church when I was 8 years old.

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By Chapeau, April 1, 2010 at 9:24 pm Link to this comment
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WWJD ?

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By yours truly, April 1, 2010 at 4:00 pm Link to this comment
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Meanwhile, despite now knowing that at least 4% of parish priests are pedophiles*, what’s amazing is that Catholics still serve up their young boys to these predatory priests for their amusement and pleasure.  Goes to show what Church indocrination has turned parishioners into - totally compliant pie-in-the-sky seekers, willing even to sacrifice their children, if that’s what it takes to get those last rites.  The Church, of course, gives believers a way out of this dilemma by putting the blame on the messenger (the NYT, for example), rather than fessing up to its being complicit up to and including the highest level of authority.  Were any other institution found to be as thoroughly riddled with pedophiles as is the Church, there wouldn’t just be an uproar, the court dockets would be replete with the names of alleged pedophiles awaiting trial on the charge of sexually molesting children. 

“Members of the jury, on the charge of sexually molesting little boys, what is your verdict?”

“Guilty as charged, your honor.”   

*according to the 2004 John Jay Report commisioned by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops

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By melpol, April 1, 2010 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment

Stories about the thousands of sexual orgies that are taking place in the privacy of the catholic church is more than a masturbation fantasy. They are real.  At least ten righteous priests must come forward immediately and publicly point their fingers at the guilty. Unfortunately it would be difficult to find even one priest to cooperate unless given immunity from the law. At the present time any priest that admitted he knew what was happening would be imprisoned for a lifetime.

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By redspades, April 1, 2010 at 3:36 pm Link to this comment

JAIL FOR RATZINGER!

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By inL.A, April 1, 2010 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment

Alphysicist,

Yeah, this has nothing to do with pedophilia and everything to do with too many Jews working for the Times. Keep spinning that yarn.

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By Alphysicist, April 1, 2010 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

...Well what does one expect from the New York Times?  The Pope called for a two-state solution to the Palestinian conflict, and supports the beatification of Pius XII (long overdue).  This was to be expected from an AIPAC mouthpiece….Are there any Catholics at the New York Times?  Maureen Dowd counts as a Catholic as much as John Hagee is a Christian (also an AIPAC mouthpiece)....  How about an extension of the Civil Rights movement?

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