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Gee, since we are the ‘compassionate’ nation, maybe a bit
twisted, why don’t we just let everybody out of prison?  Sounds
like another wonderful idea to show the love and compassion to
our ‘less than fortunate’ human brothers and sisters.

But at the same time we need to make it a ‘death by stoning’ if
any woman lets any of her eggs not produce another human,
since we are sooooo short on humans and we just haven’t had
that second coming of christ event happen so we, by gosh, just
need to do whatever it takes to hurry it along. We miss you
jesus, hurry back.

By Tobysgirl, June 19 at 5:28 pm

”The problem with the idiotic comments on this item is their assumption that all people found guilty of murder are actually guilty.”

The only idiotic assumption I see here is yours. What part of this guy having murdered his lawyer—a man trying to defend him in court—while on trial for having murdered another human being do you not understand?

What part of having had a trial, probably with lawyers provided by us—the tax payers—under the presumption of innocence and 25 more years in appeals is too difficult for you to get your head around?

The comparing of those theocratic systems of law was to point out that as problematic as our system of law is there are far worse in this world and that this guy had many opportunities for appeals and 2.5 decades to have his sentence commuted.

Your idiotic statement that those theocracies and our system of justice are equal in brutality has to rate as one of the all time stupidest statements made by an airhead in history! Are you blond as well?

Your going to Russia would be like going to paradise in comparison to being put into a hole and stoned to death for simply being suspected of having committed an immoral act. Which is what would happen to your sorry ass were you there instead of here where your voice—and the voices of those like minded—against capital punishment carries weight and has this nation very close to putting an end to capital punishment. Perhaps you’d prefer China where one’s organs are farmed and sold by the State.

What weight would your voice carry in a Sharia court where your testimony is only worth half that of a man? Perhaps we need to adopt their system of laws where women know their place and that place is usually with the goats and other farm animals.

Where’s your outrage at the needless, brutal, and violent murder of two human beings—one trying to defend him—at the hands of this guy? Where’s your compassion for their families? He lived another 25 years, he received many opportunities to say goodbye to his loved ones, and they had many years to prepare for this moment. He even had a choice of how to die. His victims didn’t have any of that.

I’m not fond of capital punishment either but if anyone deserved it this guy did. And his wasn’t a case like those you mentioned in Chicago. There was nothing rash about this judgment nor was it a frame up.

Let someone do to Toby what this guy did to others and you’ll be here with Rico, Suave and other conservatives declaring that Reagan, Bush and Cheney are the triune god!

Send Rahm Emanuel with a stone tablet and a chisel up Mount Sinai to ask God what he meant by “thou shalt not kill”.

The problem with the idiotic comments on this item is their assumption that all people found guilty of murder are actually guilty. How sweet life would be if we lived in the simplistic world these folks do. This ignores the systematic torture of African-American men in Chicago, torture which elicited confessions of guilt, with some of these men being sentenced to death for crimes they did not commit.

And what does being against capital punishment have to do with theocracies that are as brutal as our supposedly secular state? Are we back to, “If you don’t like it here, whyn’t you go over to Roooshah?”
Can’t you imagine something better than an Islamic state or the military/prison/industrial state we live in? Pathetic!

MeHere….

Agreed.

Blackspeare… I would like to see any supporting evidence regarding the swiftness of execution and its effect as a deterrent. Every scientific study I’ve ever heard cited has stated the opposite.

By aloysuis, June 18 at 5:01 pm

”It’s not like he killed a human or someones pet rabbit, it was a lawyer for petes sake. Capital punishment is the State lowering itself to the level of murders. Poor murders that is.”

He shot his lawyer while on trial for murdering someone else. He was put down by the State after having received a trial under the presumption of innocence and 25 years of delays trying to save his sorry ass. He was even given a choice on how to be put down.

Would you America hating SOBees prefer he face Sahria law where one is murdered for watching a soccer game or simply accused of adultery by a husband looking for younger pussy?

As f—ked up as this guy was both he and society are better off with him dead. Sometimes a skunk just has to be shot.

I truly hoped he enjoyed it as much as possible.

I hear the Mormons are debating bringing back stoning.

TheBrix57…You make an interesting point.  Capital punishment, as practiced in the USA and most other nations, does not deter murderous crimes.  However, quick executions, once found guilty, actually does deter crime——it has to do with the human psyche and the time factor.

The American Civil Liberties Union holds that the death penalty inherently
violates the constitutional ban against cruel and unusual punishment and the
guarantee of due process of law and the equal protection of the laws. The
imposition of the death penalty is inconsistent with fundamental values of our
democratic system. The state should not arrogate unto itself the right to kill
human beings, especially when it kills with premeditation and ceremony, under
color of law, in our names, and when it does so in an arbitrary and
discriminatory fashion. In the judgment of the ACLU, capital punishment is an
intolerable denial of civil liberties. We shall therefore continue to seek to
prevent executions and to abolish capital punishment by litigation, legislation ,
commutation, or by the weight of a renewed public outcry against this brutal
and brutalizing institution.

Capital Punishment Project
American Civil Liberties Union
122 Maryland Avenue, N.E.
Washington, D.C. 20002

Read more at:

http://users.rcn.com/mwood/deathpen.html

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Death, right or wrong in whatever way, is a natural inevitable
thing. So is cost effectiveness these days, big time. Yet we have
more and more people who want to divert money to incarcerate
sociopaths for several decades or life for antisocial behavior,
never mind the cost and then chide people into believing that is
not their place to protect themselves from deviant behavior while
our economy is crashing. Truly a confused situation when some
is guilty is made to be another added burden to society.

Then there is the long lingering and inevitable passing into
death so many experience with no hope of recovery and full life
yet we or some are indignant that these people can’t be saved
even if it means they would be better off and peaceable if
allowed the dignity of death instead of a creature on exhibit in a
side show.

Another anti-cost effective measure to placate deranged
thinking and ideas.

Jokes aside, the death penalty is reflective of the culture of death in our country. It doesn’t reduce the murder rate, it is not cost effective, but more importantly, it is wrong.

And we create a whole new group of people who have to participate in the coldblooded murder of a killer, from the jury, to the lawyers, judges, guards etc.

“Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it.” ~William Penn

25 years on death row after being sentenced to death? Death penalty cases should be much quicker than that. 30 days should be the average that we hold these people in prison.

After the trial, take them out back and shoot, hang, inject or whatever, just do it quickly.

Cost effective.

Oh shucks, too late, but he could have been the return of jesus,
but oh, well, we’d kill him too just like we were supposed have
killed him many years ago.