“Your fractured logic relieves you of the need to be rational.”

- Inherited Windom

Typical troll.  Address nothing.  Overlook as required.  Accuse, accuse, accuse.  Don’t back up accusations, just wait for an opportunity to do it again. 

Accuse with a sentence that doesn’t really make any sense? - PRICELESS

CPB:
Please join Tropicgirl and Dr Quack in the rubber room.  Your fractured logic relieves you of the need to be rational.

Yesterdays Times Science reported the DNA seqencing of the Black Death. Reminded
me of when Rumsfeld authroized the military to make smallpox, which had been
eradicated, but was beneficial to Giliead Science where he was CEO. I think the Black
Death sequencing is also military related. Margaret Altwood in Oryx and Crake recounts
the consequences of such a government collusiion going awry. Robert Desowith in the
Malaria Capers traces major epidemics to the removal of forests in the 12th through
19th century. English oaks were used for catapaults and castle rams, bows, arrows,
stakes, and fire. Indian teak was appropriated for rail, to freight in troops and take out
plunder. The resulting ruts on the forest access roads (why the Roadless Rule is such a
fight) is what mosquitos, fleas etc were able to use to breed, linkng their ancestral traps,
with settlement, often via resulting agriculture- swine flu for example. With disease
spores resource intersests are looking at one more enclosure of the commons- what
Christian Perenti recently called “arming the lifeboat” in Tropic of Chaos- Climate
Change and the new geograohy of Violence. The enclosure of the commons for the
norman lords and king “forestation” practices lead to the Magna Carta. Charter One has
all our great rights like Heabeus Corpus, false imprisionment, no delayed trial, no sale of
person, etc. to prevent what we do in Afghanistan and Guantanamo for resource theft- in
this case the Norman lords and king thefts through law, from the English barons and
their peasents who are now allied in 1215. Its also where mine and yours is defined.
Charter two was the Charter of the Forests which called for disaforestatation or
exemption from the forest enclosure law. Article 7, because of the French invasion in
1215, gave the huge created population of widows the right to collect wood (bote) and
describes the endearing image of woodlands which is the bent over (old) woman with a
stack of kindling on her back. (Both charters are combined by Edward III in 1369 into
one law of the realm.) The Doomsday Book of 1086 compiled at the behest of William
the Conqueror shows only half the english settlements as having woodlands; so you can
see the consequences of forestation and the resultant displacement of the peasents into
cities because of the loss of the commons starting with the black death.

And the Guatemalans aren’t the only ones who’re being “experimented” on.

“Excuse me but this isn’t a fantasy conspiracy like so
many that get propagated here.”

- ITW

You’re not excused.

You speak to the government admitting to certain things
as if that is a big deal and somehow supports your
contention that most of what may be classed as
‘conspiracy theory’ on these threads is fantasy.

The inverse is actually true.  It is pure fantasy to
think that the government admits all it’s foibles and
atrocities and that anything labelled with conspiracy is
not to be investigated or taken seriously.  You have to
read between the lines and employ some educated common
sense of course, but if you want the truth where, aside
from ‘Out There’ are you going to go looking for it?

It is high time that we see through the way that this
word, conspiracy, has been used to denigrate people and
ideas ever since Bush stood up and said something to the
effect of “Let us not entertain conspiracy theories.”. 
Sorry, that is wrong, the elites and the MSM have been
abusing the concept for much longer, my bad.

“Never believe anything until the government
categorically denies it.”

Rather tongue in cheek - I’m pretty sure that was G.
Carlin.

We’ve had evil mad scientists supported by governments thoughout the ages.

If it wasn’t for secrecy, subterfuge and control of the media, the people would have risen up and hung them all.

They are CERTAINLY experimenting on us, every time you get a vaccine or tetanus shot or many other things…

And in my own state… and they are still doing it. And OF COURSE, encouraging those infected to rush to the medical authorities so they can update their data.

Truthout.org;
CIA documents, and Findings of a 1975 Congressional Committee, Reveal That Three Sites in Florida, Key West, Panama City and Avon Park, and Two Other Locations in Central Florida, Were Used for Experiments With Mosquito-Borne Dengue Fever and Other Biological Substances (7.21.10)

@glider   chemtrails - malfunctioning nuclear power plants - neurological damage from a sea of wireless communications radiation. If you add food to the equation, you have a whole other ballgame.

Excuse me but this isn’t a fantasy conspiracy like so many that got propagated here. 

It has already been acknowledged by the US Government that here in the USA, at about the same time, Black Americans were, without their knowledge or consent, infected with syphilis, and left untreated until it harmed them.  Equally, in the 1950’s soldiers were, without their knowledge or consent, given LSD, resulting in SEVERE mental damage to many of them.  These have not only been acknowledged by the US Government, apologies were offered.  These two abominations are known facts, not subject to dispute.  The US government has admitted that they took place.

So given that these two occurred, one does not need to be a conspiracy buff (and I am not one) to accept as well within the realm of possibility that similar experiments were conducted in Guatemala during the same time frame.  To this day, Guatemalans are seen as some form of lesser humans by not only Americans, but by Mexico as well. (Mexico’s southern border is even more protected against illegal aliens than ours is against illegal Mexicans here).

But all of us who bothered to READ and investigate and find out the truth about americas awful past were called paranoid conspiracy theorists. But it was all true wasn’t it? (well this stuff and alot more we don’t know about)

Our intelligence services in the post WWII era were staffed with and designed by our new friends we saved from the waffen SS. The CIA and NSA are the bastard children of men like Himmler, Goebbels, Hess, Heydrich, ect. We are the Fourth Reich.

And don’t forget to bash that baby’s off that rock in front of the whole village, you know, show ‘em we mean business.

Every attrocity is a reflection on all of us.

So every 70 years the government is able to cleanse itself of indiscretions done in a time long forgotten.  The more important question that brings up is just what are they deceiving you about now ???