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Brit Warns Against Leaving Afghanistan

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Posted on Nov 21, 2009
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Miliband’s remarks come amid rising public anxiety over British casualties in Afghanistan.

Britain’s foreign secretary visited Kabul this week and had a stark warning for opponents of the NATO effort in Afghanistan: The Afghan government could fall apart within weeks of a coalition pullout, David Miliband said.

The Guardian:

The Afghan government could fall within weeks if Nato pulled out troops now, David Miliband warned today as he urged British opponents of the war to give the fight to rebuild the country more time.

In an interview with the Guardian at the end of a visit to Kabul for the presidential inauguration of Hamid Karzai, the foreign secretary said: “If international forces leave, you can choose a time – five minutes, 24 hours or seven days – but the insurgent forces will overrun those forces that are prepared to put up resistance and we would be back to square one.”

At the end of a day spent visiting British troops and officials at the headquarters of the international military effort, Miliband said that Afghans were “sad that they need anyone, but they are passionate that my goodness they do – because if we weren’t here their country would be rolled over”.

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By melpol, November 22, 2009 at 10:03 am Link to this comment

Over a million well armed Afghans are ready to desert the Taliban. They want to
live in their small towns and villages without taking orders. It would be wise to put
them on the CIA payroll. They will never bite the hand that feeds them.

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By the tshirt doctor, November 22, 2009 at 9:14 am Link to this comment

what government in afghanistan?  they barely hang on to the capital, kabul.  and our troops are going to give the country side over to the “enemy” in our bid to control the cities.

i don’t give a f### what happens to afghanistan when we do leave.  if we leave.

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By denk, November 22, 2009 at 9:13 am Link to this comment

the brits ought to know dont they ?
after all,
**This portentous nonsense goes back to the British geographer Halford John Mackinder, **
http://tinyurl.com/na7awb

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By gerard, November 21, 2009 at 7:18 pm Link to this comment

Isn’t there something spurious here?  The U.S. (for whatever reason it can create and support) can attack any country in the world in order to “improve” it, “help” it, “modernize” it, create a “democracy”—whatever—and for as long as it takes and in spite of failures and disasters, we have to stay there and keep sending in more forces and killing more people just to prove our point, or because they “ask” us, or because we are “making money” or because so-and-so says we mustn’t leave?—And especially when we have no idea how to handle the psychological/sociological/environmental issues which are mostly foreign to our experience?
  I would be absolutely furious if one of my kids got injured or killed for reasons like this!

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By Mary Ann McNeely, November 21, 2009 at 7:17 pm Link to this comment

Here is a suggestion for Foreign Secretary Mr. Milimeter: Shed the suit, don a camoulflage uniform, arm yourself to the teeth and go to Afghanistan.  If you think it’s that important, go die for it.  Think there’s a chance of that ever happening?

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By JimBob, November 21, 2009 at 7:04 pm Link to this comment

The earnest young man is absolutely right.  The problem is, if we stay there another five years, the same thing will be true.  The only reason to stay there is to go on enriching the war profiteers.

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By yours truly, November 21, 2009 at 5:57 pm Link to this comment
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The British very well could lead the way towards troops out now, just as in the early sixties they led the “Ban The Bomb” movement, which, by the way, helped bring about the ban on nuclear weapon testing which is still in effect.  The highlight of that peace movement was the Aldermaston March, which yours truly, along with many thousands more activists, had the pleasure of participating in almost a half century ago.  The march ended at the Ministry of Defense, Whitehall, The highlight, for me, was listening to wheel-chair bound Bertrand Russell addressing the multitudes.  He spoke from a wheelchar, appeared frail, I could barely hear him, but that’s a memory I’ll never forget, the sight of this great intellect & heroic figure whose opposition to WW I landed him in the hoosegaw.  What also impressed me back then was the extent & vigor of the nonviolent anti-war resistance.  At an anti-war rally in London, for example, the German Democratic Socialist (& future Chancellor of Germany) Willy Brandt could hardly finish a sentence without being interrupted by some activist getting up & shouting “Ban the Bomb” & no matter that there were cops in waiting who’d grab these irrepressible patriots & carry them away.  Upon returning home, then, what a surprise to discover that the ban the bomb victory sign had been commandeered by anti-war activists as their peace emblem, with the struggle not just continuing but greatly expanded.  Hey, Brits, it’s OK if once again you lead the way because, as ever, we’re in this together.

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By scotttpot, November 21, 2009 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment

We were told we needed to fight Afghanistan to destroy Al-Qaeda. I say
Mission Accomplished. There hasn*t been One American killed by Al-Qaeda in
America in Eight years. KSM is in custody and going to trial. So why do we need to stay in Afghanistan?
Interesting that Miliband and the military/industrial/ corporate/media create the
illusion that staying and waging War is the morally correct thing .And inferring
that ending War is irresponsible and selfish.

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By bobloc, November 21, 2009 at 2:28 pm Link to this comment
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Britain is the true enemy, its evil went unnoticed behind the evil of communism after WWII.  It has never given up the hope of destroying America since our Revolution.  It wants us to destroy ourselves in Afghanistan.

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By Litl Bludot, November 21, 2009 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment

The reason Miliband is on a PR offensive is because the Brits are STRONGLY
against the Iraq and Afgan wars.  Their government has been revealed to be a
puppet of the U.S. military/industrial/prison disaster capitalism ruling elite.  And
the Brits know it.  They, unlike our passive, ignorant, fat and self absorbed
population, are unequivocally telling the government to get out NOW.

But here, in the heart of the beast, torture school of the world,  Palins’ new book
and faux healthcare “reform” are the topics, with a bit of corporate sports. 

This country has lost its soul.

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By samosamo, November 21, 2009 at 12:20 pm Link to this comment

What gives with this guy and from UK declaring that there must not be a
withdrawal from afghanistan by the u.s.? After all we supposedly attacked the
al qaeda, a relatively small group of people, because we were told they were
totally and absolutely the perpetrators of the 9/11 attack and whom we have
continued to fight a ghost type war, and now some ‘higher up’ in england is
calling for NO withdrawal because the corrupt sum bitch that the u.s. AND
england are propping up as the afghan leader can stay on to do what, keep the
afghan meat grinder running for the false leaders of the u.s. AND britain( I
cannot attach the moniker of ‘great’ to a country that is essentially the leader in
the world global market terrorism from years way before america was even
found).

Really sounds as if this governmental shrill is more interested in keeping the
economics(drugs, military industrial complexes) and the false power of social
control at the hog’s trough to maintain their existence because for me he gives
NO GOOD specific reasons to NOT withdraw, just vague claims that the current
regime will fall and the people will be in deep shit because the world decided
to leave the hell hole of afghanistan to be overthrown and be taken over by
who, the same people that have been fighting each other for centuries doing
exactly what this young english pup says will happen after everyone leaves, so I
am NOT sorry to say I believe this person to be absolutely and positively
WRONG about staying, the whole world will be better off by leaving afghanistan
and letting it fend for itself because I would bet that afghans want to keep
foreign invaders in their country for the sole purpose of causing the exact
issues that those foreign countries are having to deal with at home by the
continual death and the rape of home economies to still sustain little w & dick’s
gift to the military industrial congressional complexes of those countries.

So don’t for get, that what we do to the nations we have illegally invaded is
being handed right back to us and the other countries in afghanistan by the
afghans and all it does is empower and enrich those that keep bleating about
‘staying the course’ which is for their benefit.

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