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Ear to the Ground

The Veto Stands

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Posted on May 2, 2007

Congress regrouped Wednesday to vote in response to President Bush’s veto of the troop pullout bill on Tuesday, but the bill’s supporters failed to win the two-thirds of House votes needed to override the veto.  Now Democrats, responsible for 220 of the 222 votes to override (203 members voted in opposition), have to take a different tack. 


AP via MSNBC.com:

Democrats flashed defiance, yet signaled they were ready to make significant concessions such as jettisoning the troop withdrawal timetable in order to gain Bush’s signature on a replacement measure. There was early talk in both parties of setting goals for the government of Iraq to meet as it strives to develop a self-defending, democratic society.

“Make no mistake, Democrats are committed to ending this war,” said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. “We hope to do so in unison with the president of the United States,” she said on a day of carefully scripted political drama at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue.

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By Sharon Ash, May 3, 2007 at 4:06 pm Link to this comment
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Congress needs to send Bush a note and tell him that Laura needs to get busy baking cookies, because if he wants any more funds for his illegal and immoral war, he’s going to need to have a big bake sale to raise the money to pay for it. Americans need to maintain their resolve on this and insist that Congress make no compromises on this issue.  No more funds for the illegal and immoral war in Iraq.  End of discussion.

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By Lord B, May 3, 2007 at 10:28 am Link to this comment
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Again, why does the Congress have to pass ANY bill funding this occupation for another year???  Congress can let it DIE and the troops will be forced to come home for LACK OF FUNDING!!!!

Dems should TAKE NOTE!  Otherwise, Pelosi is nothing but a HIPOCRITE!

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By Novista, May 3, 2007 at 6:49 am Link to this comment

I’m glad about the veto.

If you look past the talking points, there’s an 800-pound gorilla in the fine print. Even after a timeline withdrawal, an estimated 60,000 troops would be left in Iraq, to provide security for US personnel left in country, like at the Great White Elephant embassy and the 4 or 5 permanent military bases.

As things stand, there’s money for the troops through June at least. In the runup to the war, as part of the ‘reconstruction planning’ Bush divered $400 million from NSA. He could probably access more tax dollars squirreled away, maybe even find the 2.3 trillion the Pentagon could not account for under Rumsfeld.

And does anyone believe the leaky al-Maliki alleged government could meet any benchmarks? Feh!

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By gsemsel, May 3, 2007 at 5:42 am Link to this comment
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Have no fear. As usual, the Dems will cave to the master, the war will be funded, the rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer, there will be no universal health care, our schools will continue to be jokes, everyone will own a handgun or two or three . . . So it goes.

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By cann4ing, May 2, 2007 at 11:45 pm Link to this comment

Re comment #67822 by John Weinell.  You are partially right.  The best solution is contained in HR 1234 (Kucinich) that not only cuts off funds, but mandates a withdrawal of all troops, all contractors and a restoration of Iraq’s economy and its oil to its rightful owner, the Iraqi people.  Short of that, a bare majority is all that is needed to block funding in the House.  Only 41 votes would be needed in the Senate to achieve the same result.  That is the number of votes needed to block a cloture motion, permitting the Senate to fillibuster any spending bill into oblivion.  But a vote to cut-off funds means ending the flow of money to the military-industrial complex.  Since many Democrats are scrounging for corporate funds to support their campaigns in 2008, only an overwhelming outcry from the American public—perhaps accompanied by rapidly rising poll numbers for Kucinich and Gravel, can force these crooked politicians to straighten out.

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By Margaret Currey, May 2, 2007 at 11:22 pm Link to this comment
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I would like to comment on #67822 by John Weinell, I totally agree, and since the Congress before the Dems came into power did nothing, this time doing nothing will acomplish something.

Margaret Currey from Vancouver, Washington

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By M Currey, May 2, 2007 at 10:20 pm Link to this comment
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The veto was a foregoing conclusion, the thing to do is just keep after it, keep sending to the president the same thing he vetoed, say the same thing just word it differently, I would guess that Bush/Shrub does not read what he signs he probably has someone give him the highlights and does as he is told, someone should get him better handlers.

Maybe there should be an Impeachment started including Chaney because he is the one who wanted this war, after all Runsfeld is gone and Gonzales is going.

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By QuyTran, May 2, 2007 at 9:09 pm Link to this comment

Viva the King ! You’re always won ! Just keep killing our troops and innocent people in anywhere your invasion mighty forces are present.

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By John Weinell, May 2, 2007 at 7:08 pm Link to this comment
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Democrats can stop this immoral war without a two thirds vote of congress. Just do nothing. Do not pass a funding bill. No funding bill no veto. No money no war. End this insanity. Sit on your hands and do nothing. Make Bush regret his veto by doing nothing. Save both American and Iraqi lives by doing nothing.

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