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The Sign That Could Evict the Wall Street Occupiers

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Posted on Oct 14, 2011
Alexander Reed Kelly

The sign could be interpreted as a de facto eviction order.

UPDATE: The Occupy Wall Street legal team says the new rules cannot be used to evict the protesters while they are in the park.

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On or before Oct. 13, someone affixed flimsy signs announcing new rules for the use of Zuccotti Park to the granite walls enclosing the place where anti-Wall Street protesters have camped for almost a month.

The rules—which were clearly crafted to bring the demonstrators’ occupation to an end—forbid members of the public to camp, set up tents, store and place tarps, sleeping bags and other personal property, remove items from the trash and lie down anywhere. They amount to a suspension of permanent peaceful assembly in the square. See the wording in the photograph below. —ARK

Correction: This post originally said NYPD officers had posted the signs. Truthdig could not confirm that information.

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By Dave McD, October 17, 2011 at 9:11 am Link to this comment
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WS is so insulated from reality of all the wreckage they have created. Lets start by
removing the means for these thieves to communicate. Not rocket science to pull
the plug on WS. The “market” is made up of the very people who are being screwed
the most. The 99% can do this to them for starters!

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By mrfreeze, October 16, 2011 at 8:19 pm Link to this comment

@ redteddy - Last night I had a conversation with one of my friends who feels that if citizens want to get the attention of the Wall Streeters they can simply start with one large corporation and use the following strategy: the investors can sell all their stock on one agreed-upon day and quit purchasing the company’s products thereafter. Tank the target corporation and then simply move to the next one until they wake up. Also, in the background I still think every single worker in American should take a week off for “prayer and reflection” and let the corporations know who does all the work around here.

You see, it’s really nice to think that people who work for or run Wall Street are going to have a “dialogue” with the protesters….but we all know that the second they go back to their lairs, they’ll claim that they have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to maximize returns….........END OF STORY. No reform will come from them.

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By Shenonymous, October 16, 2011 at 3:00 pm Link to this comment

heterochromatic, October 16 at 2:41 pm - Check with Anarcissie,
October 15 at 5:44 pm this forum, since it was she who said the
Wall Streeters mingled with the protesters.  I was asking a question
not making a statement about it.

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By heterochromatic, October 16, 2011 at 2:41 pm Link to this comment

——Shenonymous—-


when the Wall Streeters were talking to the protesters, what did the protesters tell
them to do?

What are the agreed-upon steps ?

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By Shenonymous, October 16, 2011 at 2:16 pm Link to this comment

7:30 p.m. Unconfirmed estimates ranging as high as 50,000
people in Times Square on October 15.  Ballooning from 15,000
earlier at 6:00 pm. 

Copied from the Occupy Wall Street website:
http://occupywallst.org/
From Tahrir Square to Times Square: Protests Erupt in Over 1,500
Cities Worldwide

Occupy Wall Street is a people powered movement that began on
September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District,
and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over
1,500 cities globally. #OWS is fighting back against the corrosive power
of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic
process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that
has caused the greatest recession in generations.The movement is
inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt, Tunisia, Spain, Greece, Italy and
the UK, and aims to expose how the richest 1% of people who are writing
the rules of the global economy are imposing an agenda of neoliberalism
and economic inequality that is foreclosing our future.

Have the Wall Streeters who walked down to the Occupation and engaged
in conversation with the demonstrators done anything constructive
regarding the protests upon returning to their comfy offices wallpapered
with hundred dollar bills?  Talk is cheap.

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By heterochromatic, October 16, 2011 at 1:56 pm Link to this comment

if the protesters manage to hang on and remain in the park throughout the
difficult first winter, the second winter will be much easier and remaining through
the third will hardly be a challenge.
generations of children yet to be born in Zuccotti Park will lionize their very own
Founding Fathers

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By redteddy, October 16, 2011 at 11:58 am Link to this comment

@mrfreeze

I am in complete agreement with you.  Those strategies you mentioned are
essential!

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By redteddy, October 16, 2011 at 11:56 am Link to this comment

@gerard

You ask why the majority are denied a voice in “the system”.  They are not
denied a voice in the system, the system simply functions in such a way as to
stifle the effectiveness of those voices.  So for example you have the right to
vote, but since your public officials are all heavily paid and dependent upon the
lobbyists of powerful private interests their voices are heeded while that of the
majority is ignored and managed.  This is what it means to work ‘within’ the
system.  The system welcomes all as long as you don’t try and change it. 
Meaning the moment you challenge its basic functions and its basic design you
are relegated to a voice ‘outside’ the system, then you are a threat to the status
quo.  The system can only survive within the status quo and those who benefit
from it whether they be corporate interests, the financial sector or politicians
are not going to cut off their nose to spite their face in the effort of notions
such as equity and cooperation.  Those notions function within a different
system, one that is presently lacking.

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By redteddy, October 16, 2011 at 11:48 am Link to this comment

@gerard

What so they can pacify the movement?  That’s the only thing they are trying to
achieve.  Those who really makes the decisions in terms of government
deregulation and law making in the private sector is going to be at that meeting.  I
mean look at the statements of people like Paulson, he basically dismissed the
group and its agenda.  They will nod heads and give looks of compassionate
understanding and then make like an Obama and do the exact opposite. Talking is
one thing, trusting them and toning down the movement is another.  OWS needs
to forge forward until the system is forced to change, not believe that a nice chat
is going to stop the machine in its tracks or lead to some form of mild changes.

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By Anarcissie, October 15, 2011 at 5:44 pm Link to this comment

All the ‘Wall Streeters’ have to do is walk down to the Occupation and engage people there in conversation.  In fact some of them have been doing this since shortly after it began.  This is not one of those times when they need to say ‘Have your people call my people and set up a meeting.’  The meeting is waiting for them.

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By gerard, October 15, 2011 at 10:55 am Link to this comment

News this morning suggests that several Wall Street “financiers” would be willing to meet representatives of “Occupy Wall Street” and talk face to face.

This suggests the possibility of some kind of meeting or exploratory conference to look at the idea of a cross-the-board, serious, detailed conference.  Purpose: To listen and learn. To make specific broadly considered suggestions for policy changes in the economic system, with discussion and input from all sides—98%, Wall Street class, the broader public, and the government, with complete coverage by media for the sake of public information and input, and the historic record.

If your impulse is to laugh, you are a confirmed cynic. Such a venture is fully possible in this country perhaps more than anywhere else.  If we don’t grab the ball and do this now, we will miss
one of history’s great opportunities.

The stage is set.  The actors are in the wings. The human drama is about to pre-figure a possible future.  Cheers!

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By Shenonymous, October 15, 2011 at 10:30 am Link to this comment

The idea that the political system of the US is “frozen” is a
misperception.  It is quite fluid and actually in transition. The OWS
is proof of it. 

It is too soon to see the effects of or even to expect the efforts of the
protesting common people to show results.  Baking the intentions of
the protest needs oven time.  But there is no doubt it is cooking.  The
rabble will have some influence on what the politicians do, and will
make course corrections to the bonding alliances double-dealing
politicians have made with the Corporatocracy and the Corporatocrats
when it comes to elections. 

It is not an overnight sea change. It will take much effort to overcome
the unfathomable wealth and investment the Corporatocrats put into
denying the public of an egalitarian foundation in this country.  That
effort is amplifying by the minute.  It is now an indelible understanding
that the people can do something when they put their collective minds to
it.

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By mrfreeze, October 14, 2011 at 11:43 pm Link to this comment

I realize that my opinion isn’t a popular one but real change is impossible unless and
until Americans quit enabling their de facto captors. Gandhi’s strategy of a general strike
during which no work is done, no products are produced or purchased, no one shows up
for a good solid week would go far further than these protests. Right now the elites don’t
even care because this movement isn’t hitting them in the wallet.

It’s ironic that the Indian people were poor so they had nothing to lose. Americans are
slaves to their affluence and thus cannot even take time off….

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By Anarcissie, October 14, 2011 at 6:33 pm Link to this comment

gerard—Part of the problem is the the political system of the United States is frozen.  In a functioning representative democracy, one would expect the interests and desires of any given large segment of the population to be in the platform of at least one major party, and to be discussed in the media and by lawmakers and administrators, and possibly acted upon.  As we have observed, however, even apparently popular ideas like Single Payer can’t even be discussed, much less enacted.  Meanwhile, the broad incompetence of the financier ruling class is destroying the economy and the livelihoods of the people.  However, this same incompetence renders the ruling class incapable of considering advice like yours, or anyone else’s.  Their only focus is on the short term win, whether it’s political or monetary.

With all the noise about OWS, and all the lip service, I wonder if anyone has noticed that nothing concrete has happened within the government or the major corporations and institutions.  It’s all business as usual.

Many observers are inspired to think of poor Marie Antoinette.

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By gerard, October 14, 2011 at 6:16 pm Link to this comment

Robespierre, excuse my faulty syntax. I had no intention of begging “them” to give “us” anything. If you got that impression, I’m sincerely sorry. I simply see Occupy Wall Street as a golden opportunity to bring about a much needed change without violence.  That means cooperation. To do that, government and business have to be involved in promoting the change in order to avoid use of force. Ignoring business and government is impossible, and just killing them off isn’t going to help at all. I’m mainly interested in encouraging government and business to come to terms with the mess they have created.  I don’t write them off completely—not yet.  The entire human race is in the process of trying to live together. I’m on the side of that universal effort—and so is Occupy Wall Street, the 98%.

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By Robespierre115, October 14, 2011 at 5:40 pm Link to this comment

“Why can’t some of you smart officials and educators come up with ways to listen, learn, and
organize together with them to improve the future of the country and the world?”

That is the first mistake of the postmodern attitude which has handicapped what are otherwise impressive and inspiring movements in Europe and in the US: Those in power are not going to do the changing for us, we need to give them the boot and build a new society ourselves.

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By gerard, October 14, 2011 at 5:33 pm Link to this comment

vic—Latin root meaning victory, to win, to force

Yet Occupy Wall Street is a nonviolent attempt, without using force, to have millions of voices heard that are otherwise muted, dulled, ignored, frustrated and neglected.

Why can’t a country as smart as the U.S. come up with a way for this 98% of its citizens to be heard, to be listened to, to gain legitimate attention to their present and future needs?  How can they get access in any other way to the “centers of power” when their government, their media, and their financial leadership all turn a deaf ear and deny them a proportionate voice in “the system”? Are they simply to suffer and die in frustration and silence?  Or be beaten down by those who are supposed to protect them? 
  Why can’t some of you smart officials and educators come up with ways to listen, learn, and
organize together with them to improve the future of the country and the world?  Opportunity is knocking at the doors of both business and government.  Why not respond intelligently?  Join our young people.  Try something different and more equitable.  It’s not rocket science, as they say.

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By Craig, October 14, 2011 at 5:30 pm Link to this comment
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Sounds like it’s time to put up some scaffolds!!

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