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Posted on Dec 27, 2009
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You’re not still thinking about Afghanistan are you? The U.S. may be sending more troops and treasure there, but the real action is in other failed and failing states such as Somalia and Yemen, which has gotten visits from David Petraeus, Joe Lieberman and some of the CIA’s finest in recent months.

Here are a few questions raised by The New York Times article linked below:

1. What’s the point of sending a hundred thousand troops to Afghanistan if the terrorists can just work out of their vacation caves in Yemen?

2. Why do we have to spend billions on Afghanistan if we can suppress terror in Yemen for a lousy $70 million? That’s public radio money. We can find that in the White House couch.

3. Before we go raising another proxy army, can we at least try not to bomb people and prop up their abusive dictators?  —PZS

The New York Times:

In the midst of two unfinished major wars, the United States has quietly opened a third, largely covert front against Al Qaeda in Yemen.

A year ago, the Central Intelligence Agency sent several of its top field operatives with counterterrorism experience to the country, according a former top agency official. At the same time, some of the most secretive Special Operations commandos have begun training Yemeni security forces in counterterrorism tactics, senior military officers said.

The Pentagon is spending more than $70 million over the next 18 months, and using teams of Special Forces, to train and equip Yemeni military, Interior Ministry and coast guard forces, more than doubling previous military aid levels.

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By ardee, December 29, 2009 at 4:17 am Link to this comment

Marshall, December 29 at 3:03 am

Getting less and less subtle as your position becomes less and less tenable. Our troops are in so many nations for one reason and one reason only, to protect our economic interests and not for any such noble purpose as bringing peace, only bringing stability that ensures profit.

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By Marshall, December 28, 2009 at 11:03 pm Link to this comment

By hans-Heinrich Boeker, December 28 at 9:53 pm #
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“Get your troops back to the US and maybe the world will be at peace.”

Yeah maybe, but not likely.  The whole reason we started sending troops abroad
was because the world wasn’t at peace and the war threatened to come to our
shores.  Isolationism is an idealistic fantasy, not an effective foreign policy.  The
trick of course is figuring out where to get involved and where not to.

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By NZDoug, December 28, 2009 at 7:04 pm Link to this comment

Get some of those brave Israeli Defense Force guys to help out in Afghanistan.
They can use some of the 2.8 billion dollars of military aid given by USA there
instead of slaughtering Palestinian woman and children while stealing their land.

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By hans-Heinrich Boeker, December 28, 2009 at 5:53 pm Link to this comment
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Maybe one of these days America will realise that the world can do without US interference in everybody’s affairs. Get your troops back to the US and maybe the world will be at peace. Your troops spread around the world only mean more anger, dislike and hatred of things American. Nobody wants you on their soil. You wouldn’t tolerate a foreign army in your streets; so get the message: Piss off home. Why are you stil occupyig countries of former enemies 60years after WWII? And you expect these countries to supply troops to fight your bloody wars.
Get the message: You are not wanted anywhere. Go home.

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By gerard, December 28, 2009 at 4:33 pm Link to this comment

“The problem is that the involvement of the United States creates sympathy for Al Qaeda. The cooperation is necessary — but there is no doubt that it has an effect for the common man. He sympathizes with Al Qaeda.”

“As if to reaffirm that message, Al Qaeda’s Yemeni affiliate released a statement to Internet sites on Sunday that put strong emphasis on the American role in the recent raids, deriding the Yemeni government for claiming responsibility.”

What’s a poor interloper to do?  Our young people are unemployed, and we are “terrorized.” We go to Yemen to “help” them prevent us from being “terrorized,” but they don’t want us to help them because it makes them get “terrorized” and their (unemployed) young people join the “terrorists”
  Note last sentence:  “The common man sympathizes with Al Qaeda.”  And why might that be?  Because the common man is unemployed too?  And could that be a big part of the entire war scene—wherever, whenever? War is the employer of last resort?

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By tropicgirl, December 28, 2009 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment
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Al-CIA-Duh Claims Responsibility for Fudged Underwear Bombing

Heh. Heh.

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By Thong-girl, December 28, 2009 at 9:42 am Link to this comment

Isn’t “rana” a frog?

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By Artie Wolfe, December 28, 2009 at 8:19 am Link to this comment
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Terrorists Among Us—Retired from academic life a while ago I picked up Allan
Brandt’s, The Cigarette Century (‘07), in which he elaborates on the collusion
between cigarette manufacturers and some of the country’s best and brightest
lawyers in the largest, most prestigious law firms, the advertising industry and
the most elite PR firms plus many in both houses of Congress to addict
teenagers, among others, to nicotine.  Last year the death toll in this country
from nicotine addiction was about 400,000 (four hundred thousand) plus
another 40,000 (forty thousand) from second hand smoke.  This century Brandt
guesses over a billion will die from nicotine addiction world wide.  Since 1953,
Brandt says, there was a conscious, well organized and executed plan to addict
teenagers from ages 10 to 17.  They all well knew back then (and had tests to
support it) that one addicted by age 17 was a smoker for life (such as it was). 
At one time the figure of Joe Camel was the most recognizable public figure to
children.  These generalizations were confirmed in the factual findings of the
U. S. District Court in U. S. v. Phillip Morris.  See the full 1700-page decision
on line at (http://www.tobaccolawcenter.org/dojlitigation.html) especially the section
on Marketing to Youth.  And, just within the last year or, USA Today reported
that the FDA was considering banning candy and fruit flavored cigarettes, and
then continued,” (b)ut some public health experts still see a big hole in their
efforts to keep teens from starting to smoke.”  This information captured my
attention for about a year ending in an academic paper titled, “Nicotine as a
Weapon of Mass Destruction,”  which I submitted to the prestigious Law And
Society Association, centered at the Univ. of Massachusetts.  When the program
came out, my name was not in it.  A call to headquarters revealed “They had
lost my paper.“This was a first in my 25-year life as a some what recalcitrant
academic.  I’ll end my story here with a question—someone please explain to
me, after reading the sources cited herein why (at least) the management of
major cigarette firms should not be prosecuted as terrorists based on the
assertion that planned marketing campaigns that have proved to be highly
effective in addicting children to nicotine are employed both here in this
country and with ever greater intensity in less developed countries of the
world. Artie Wolfe

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By rana, December 28, 2009 at 7:48 am Link to this comment
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Obama, the killer of mankind as we know it; I
challenge you to lift the censorship of Media, and
let us know what the murderers you are funding,
training, equipping and arming are getting up to in
order to make our lives worse than it already is!

Obama is part of the problem; he is not part of the
solution.
Obama has just murdered 4 more civilians / by-
standers in Tehran, Iran.
Obama is a coward; he can only stab us in the back!
Don’t watch Obama’s lips. Watch his actions; as his
lips only speak of falsehood; while his actions,
particularly those taking place behind closed doors,
like his meeting with the fat cat bankers!
Obama is embodiment of falsehood; so don’t believe
him when he utters the words “fat cat bankers” for he
did have a secret meeting in the White House with the
same “fat cat bankers” to beg them to do something
that will help him secure a second term in the White
House! Just as he persuaded the media to talk of the
requirement to get health insurance (just as cars
must be insured before they can be driven), in order
to make the US Insurance Companies richer and fatter
than they already are, as if it is some kind of
positive achievement on the part of the general
public who are to be milked even more in order to get
the Super Rich chief executives of the ICs fatter and
richer than they already are! Soon the American
general public shall have a taste of life under the
IRI, as soon as Obama’s health Plan unfolds to become
a reality!

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By ardee, December 28, 2009 at 4:27 am Link to this comment

Despite Marshall’s attempts at whitewashing, as well as his distortion of the “stability” of the Yemeni govt., the Yemeni rebellions have been ongoing, in fits and starts, since 1948. Hardly a model of stability except to those ,like Marshall, who care only for poisonous propaganda rather than accurate reportage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Yemen

One might expect, as the “terrorists” battle in that nation slowly gains traction, it is only a matter of time before American troops are there as well. Unless, of course, our own nation regains its sanity and tosses fascists like Marshall on the trashpile where they belong.

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By Howie Bledsoe, December 28, 2009 at 4:00 am Link to this comment
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A 3rd, unofficial war, you say?
Whew, does that mean that Pakistan, Colombia, and Honduras are finished?

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By DieDaily, December 28, 2009 at 2:50 am Link to this comment

The article asks some good questions.

1. What’s the point of sending a hundred thousand troops to Afghanistan if the terrorists can just work out of their vacation caves in Yemen?

A: To control the resources, especially heroine and oil (in that order). To destabilize the region in accordance with Brzezinski’s great game of balkanization and proxy nations / continental wedges. To provide a platform of facilities and ordinance with which to ensure that an energy-transport regional Renaissance that would heavily favour Chine and/or Russia is forestalled.

2. Why do we have to spend billions on Afghanistan if we can suppress terror in Yemen for a lousy $70 million? That’s public radio money. We can find that in the White House couch.

A: The worst catastrophe for the neoliberal globalist plans in the middle east would be a shortage of violent enemies leading to the lack of a rationale for remaining. This is the bottom line. Additionally, Yemen is a plan to further the Shia/Sunni rift and ultimately to export civil war from Afghanistan to Pakistan (and assorted less important neighbors such as Yemen) and Iran. This has nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with Iran and Pakistan.

3. Before we go raising another proxy army, can we at least try not to bomb people and prop up their abusive dictators?

A: Yes we can! Um, that is if we can get the war-monger Obama impeached. He’s a war criminal now. Where the HELL is the left? Where is the liberal outrage? When did the left become pro-war? These are sick times for the ill left. Let’s get to work liberals. Silence and effeminacy in the face of now over a million murders, OUR MURDERS BY OUR MURDERERS BLESSED AND ANNOINTED BY OUR INTELLECTUAL CLASS, is a foul act of complicity. Get your ass to a peace rally NOW. Burn down what little remains of Obama’s false LEFT COVER NOW! You know that attacks from the right wing only strengthen him. So where are you? Let’s get this marauder of a president out of office before another million are murdered BY US.

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By Ouroborus, December 28, 2009 at 12:16 am Link to this comment

We train foreign despot’s troops in our export brand of
counter-terrorism (terrorism by another name) which is
then used to control the entire population. The School
of the Americas needs renaming; The American School of
Terrorist’s Counter-Terrorism.
I wonder how much longer U.S. citizens will be safe
traveling internationally? I wonder how much longer
we’ll be free to post without arrest?
Orwell was a prophet.

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By Mary Ann McNeely, December 27, 2009 at 10:23 pm Link to this comment

Afghanistan, even more than Iraq before it, is America’s version of Spain in the 1930’s.  It’s the testing ground for new weapons and tactics.  Whatever America’s Condor Legion thinks it learns in Afghanistan will be applied elsewhere.  The Cold War against the Soviet Union lasted 45 years.  The so-called Global War on Terror has the potential for lasting much much longer.  It probably won’t because the Afghans will eventually drive us out in a shower of blood and savagery.  At that point the well laid plans of mice and mice, the whole house of cards that is GWOT, will be gone with the wind.

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By Marshall, December 27, 2009 at 10:07 pm Link to this comment

The reason for high spending in Afghanistan is that the government is in danger
of collapse if we leave; a scenario we do NOT want.  Yemen has an established
regime which we back and is not in danger of collapse, so our efforts there
consist of training and arms, not boots on the ground which are far more
expensive.

The real question is how we get the UN to bear more of the Afghanistan burden as
is only fair.

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