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The Great Bee MysteryPosted on Apr 24, 2007
Whither the bees? An American bee-tracking group has noted an alarming drop in the nation’s honeybee count, apparently due to their losing their inborn homing instincts and thus their way back to their hives. Conspiracy theories abound, according to The New York Times, including one claiming that what’s going on here is actually “the rapture of the bees.”
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By jonny, May 19, 2008 at 3:10 am Link to this comment
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omg its osama bee n laden
Report thisBy Peter Lynch, May 2, 2007 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment
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Bees navigate by magnetic field lines. It is also well known that the Earth’s magnetic field polarity completely reverses every few hundred thousand years or so. Maybe we are entering a period on polarity reversal, and the bees are the canaries in the coal mines.
Report thisBy Pangolin, April 26, 2007 at 12:25 pm Link to this comment
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Check out the urban bee site from UC Berkely. http://nature.berkeley.edu/urbanbeegardens/
It has instructions on how to foster native pollinators.
Report thisBy moni, April 25, 2007 at 10:47 pm Link to this comment
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http://www.Earthfiles.com
Report from April 6, 2007. Colony Collapse of bees in nine European countries besides U.S. and Canada.
Report thisBy moni, April 25, 2007 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment
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Our hardest agricultural workers are GOIING ON STRIKE! For all the bravado and arrogance about what a technologically sophisticated people we are—we will never be able to replace the pollenation of the honey bees, butterflies, birds and bats.
Whether due to Genetically Modified crops, pesticides, herbicides, electromagnetic fields (cell phone towers), chem-trails or increased ultra-violet rays from the sun blinding our brilliant bees; we are apparently the most uncooperative and selfish species. Is it our collective KARMA that we are now officially self-destrucing ?
Report thisBy Leefeller, April 25, 2007 at 7:19 am Link to this comment
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Several years ago, I thought the killer bees were coming up into California from South America? Something does seem right here. Looking at the track record of the , administration we can safely say, that there is no problem with the bee’s, the same point of view that their is no such thing as global warming. Profits are up that is what counts.
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 25, 2007 at 3:02 am Link to this comment
#66170 by Dr. Richard Blackmoor on 4/24 at 4:55 pm: “...To the first poster who denigrates science..it is what makes modern life possible ......”
Well, that’s really cute. Why was there ever a Nobel peace prize? Surely not because of what the military/industrial complex did with what science gave it!
Now that we have all those scientific discoveries killing bees (and humans), we still have to trust them to tell us which one!
Just as well, then, that scientists are not like lawyers or they would tell us that it was “an act of god” and wash their hands of the consequences!
No, science is not “a method for determining reality” as its practitioners have their own delusions. Infallibility, grandeur, invincibility and so on. Who invented the H-bomb - not a scientist?
With science, humans could thus die in the billions from WMD’s of one sort or another. Yes, all things are possible, even the deaths of billions of bees!
Report thisBy TAO Walker, April 24, 2007 at 10:36 pm Link to this comment
Dr. Richard Blackmoor (#66170) is no doubt entirely sincere in his positive characterizations of scientific methodology, as well as firm in his beliefs about its matchless efficacy. That this old Indian does not share these enthusiasms, and in fact has substantial doubts (based on a lifetime of actual experience and observation) about their fundamental validity, is certainly a matter-of-record here on “truthdig” and elsewhere.
Applied science hasn’t simply made “....modern life possible.” It has made it inevitable and virtually inescapable. Of course the same is true of modern death, and the myriad of worse fates overtaking the experimental subjects who are for the most part the un- or ill- or dis-informed (and thus non-consensual) participants in what is today a “global” science project….a clear violation of what is supposed to be the most binding tenet of scientific ethics.
Science is not “....a method for determining reality,” and even if it was it is hardly “....the only one.” Science as such is only a systematized and abstract arrangement for making and recording and reporting measurements of a world that both pre-dates the development of and exists entirely independent from the methodology itself.
Looking to science as the only possible deliverer of salvation, from scientifically contrived circumstances right this minute threatening “....the billions,” a mere handful of them human, certainly puts Dr. Blackmoor in….well, abundant company there in his “modern” world. He professes his faith in the methodology succinctly when he claims, “With science all things are possible.” That is itself a proposition without a shred of scientific evidence to support it….making the assertion more religiossification than anything else.
Us free wild natural human beings might not qualify for the elite echelons of “the scientific community.” After all, it’s just plain old common sense that tells us it’s much too soon to declare “Science” the runaway winner in some make-believe contest supposed to determine the one and only way to know Life Herownself….especially as those addicted to that method regularly reveal that they don’t really know Her at all.
HokaHey!
Report thisBy Dr. Richard Blackmoor, April 24, 2007 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment
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I hope some independent researchers check this out for the real cause.
Report thisTo the first poster who denigrates science..it is what makes modern life possible.
Science is a method for determining reality,and presently the only one.
Please do not blame the greed of businessmen,consumers on a methodology.
Humans would die in the billions if we threw away all that science has given us.
The solutions will be found with the scientific method or not at all.
With science all things are possible.
By Douglas Chalmers, April 24, 2007 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment
Millions of Bees Die - Are Electromagnetic Signals To Blame? http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2007/03/06/millions_of_bees_die_are_electromagnetic_signals_to_blame.htm
Mystery of the dying bees http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1087
Bee Man’s Worry: Colony Collapse http://forager.newsvine.com/_news/2007/04/09/655036-bee-mans-worry-colony-collapse-
Report thisBy James Yell, April 24, 2007 at 3:26 pm Link to this comment
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So many poisons in the environment, noise, chemicals, increased radiation getting thru an overtaxed biosphere, waste from humans, waste from animals used by humans, waste from industry that could have been controlled, but Jesus doesn’t want us to use the profits of the rich to control the poisons the wealth produced. Solution pray more it worked for the Jews in Germany.
Well it is simple. Take a pie and divide it by two. Very large pieces and certainly more than one feeding for two people. As you keep adding hungry people the pie gets down to a size that is just healthy and then more people and it is down to a size that satisfies no one. That is probably part of the problem, because along with the pie as nutrition, we have pie that is human waste, pie whose constituant parts require poisons, water, burning of fossil fuel and huge profits for the person who owns the ovens and delivery system.
When I grew up in the oil fields of Texas the ground was black from the venting of carbon black, the streams ran black with petroleum waste, the birds landed in miniture tar pits of petroleum waste. Profit might have been spent to protect the environment. Heavens no. Jesus wants the petroleum lords to be rich, rich rich. One of his primary teachings is that the poor can starve, but don’t come between a rich man and his bank account.
Report thisBy TAO Walker, April 24, 2007 at 1:04 pm Link to this comment
So the same “applied science” that has decimated not only Honeybees, but Salmon and so many others of our relatives who once gave-away freely to humankind, is supposed to come-up now with a cure for yet another of the multitude of ills for which its religiossified over-reliance, on the part of the domesticated peoples, is the proximate cause? This old Indian wonders what Albert Einstein, perhaps the “signature” scientist of the age, would say about a behavioral pattern that keeps its adherents going again and again to the same poisoned well for a “remedy” to the very problems that’ve come about from drinking so heavily from its toxic “waters” to begin with. Wait a minute. Isn’t that Einstein’s own definition of insanity?
So now one cohort of papered professional experts will rush heroically into the breach blown in the “ecosphere” by friendly fire from their brothers and sisters in-arms. Weaponry will be scientifically devised and tested and deployed to attack and destroy whatever micro-organism comes to be blamed for what this time may prove to be a degree of devastation rivalling that of the civilized breeds theirselfs.
Check out the Bill Maher take on this, just across the homepage here. Then give at least a moment’s consideration to the now nearly dead-certain prospect that whatever “science” throws-up in response to the Bee problem will shortly have “unintended side-effects” of its own orders-of-magnitude worse than the already “....end of the world as we know it” consequences staring tame two-leggeds in the face today.
It is in the very nature of Nature that any statement of a “problem” must have within it all the terms necessary to its “solution.” If even the most seemingly insignificant of these is missing no real definitive answer is possible. That random collection of over-specialized “individuals” who like to be referred (and deferred) -to as “the scientific community” is itself woefully ill-equipped to do anything at this point but make much worse the mess all their half-assed and arrogant fucking-around with the Living Arrangement has already put them, and their science-worshipping herds of “laymen” (a term applied also to those not of the “inner sanctum” in the many other “mystery” religions), inextricably (at least by their own devices) into. Not knowing just exactly what it is they’re looking at, the conclusions they continue witlessly jumping-to consistently lead them all down a road ending in what (from their almost exclusively homocentric and self-serving point-of-view) will be correctly felt as a conglomeration of (self-inflicted) catastrophes.
But don’t just take this old heathen savage’s word for that. The redoubtable Sir Albert told everyone decades ago it was coming to this impossible pass….if people didn’t wise-up and try something different, for a change. So now the civilized nations have reached it….still seeking salvation in revelation (scientific, philosophic, or phantasmagoric).
Those interested in some real good medicine might try the Tiyoshpaye Way of Life Herownself….the HeartSong ‘n’ HoopDance the professional picker-aparters of “science” have no means of ever getting a handle on.
HokaHey!
Report thisBy 911truthdotorg, April 24, 2007 at 12:27 pm Link to this comment
Frogs are also vanishing all over the world.
We screwed this planet up, royally.
Report thisBy Naturaldeath, April 24, 2007 at 12:18 pm Link to this comment
Agreed, Doug. This is a very flippant take on what is overall a truly disturbing report.
I’m certain that Marine biologists will also have some very distressing news for us as the summer progresses. All is not well. And I’m an optimist!
Report thisBy QuyTran, April 24, 2007 at 11:07 am Link to this comment
Even bees could not survive in this damned atmosphere
Report thisof man made slaughterhouse so how would we ?
By guntotin ganglion, April 24, 2007 at 10:33 am Link to this comment
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Kind of like global warming, the disappearance of the bees is real, and it’s likely there’s little we can do about it, other than to watch with fascination as the whole thing comes apart.
Our supposed mastery of the world is nothing of the kind, and nature will take care of business regardless of our incredibly arrogant, self-congratulatory wonderfulness. Nature is the master here, and we’re just one of the late comers to this party…and regardless of our brain-dead perception that we are in control, we will be at the whim of nature when the time comes. The time may well have come…we shall see.
Mankind will, sooner or later, go the way of the Dodo, and the Earth will be just fine…unless we figure out some way to sterilize the globe. If that happens, this will just be a very quiet, and tiny corner of a vast and incomprehensible universe. As someone once said so sagely, “this too shall pass”. Or, as George Harrison once said, “All Things Must Pass”...truer words were never spoken.
Report thisBy Doug Tarnopol, April 24, 2007 at 9:19 am Link to this comment
Um, isn’t the story here that the bees are having serious problems, which is very, very bad for them AND us?
Who cares about moronic conspiracy theories?
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