objective observer,

Patrick:

it isn’t you or me, given you are a US citizen.  the US Bill of Rights, by definition, is for US citizens, not whomever the United Nothing deems.

Hardly, the Bill of Rights is based on natural rights recognized before the United States was created.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights

This is becomming a mute point with unconstitutional laws like the Patriot Act and Patriot Act II eroding the guarentees contained in the Bill of Rights.

Would we want these people in our neighborhoods?  We already have them here in the US and much much worse.  No one holds a candle to US criminals.

Stick them in Supermax, after a fair trial.

objective observer,

Work on changing your screen name because you are about as far away from objectivity as it gets.

Rule of Law, ever hear of it?  The Bill of Rights was intended for everyone, not just Americans.  The UN recognizes human rights which Gitmo violates on a daily basis.

Most of these people are guilty as hell, I want the State to offer up proof just like it was you or me.

And don’t feed me the ‘its classified’ crap, Laws and Jurisprudence are national security, the rest is fluff.

It’s not that Obama didn’t follow through per se, and he did issue an executive order to that effect.

CNN:
“Promising to return America to the “moral high
ground” in the war on terrorism, President Obama
issued three executive orders Thursday to demonstrate
a clean break from the Bush administration, including
one requiring that the Guantanamo Bay detention
facility be closed within a year.”
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-2/politics/guantanamo.order_1_detention-guantanamo-bay-torture?_s=PM:POLITICS

And then all hell broke loose. If it wasn’t one issue it was another, eventually CONGRESS
stopped Guantanamo’s closing by defunding its closing and making restriction after restriction,  leaving it in complete limbo.

WaPo:
“In December, in the provisions of a major defense
bill, Congress imposed the tightest restrictions yet
on the handling of Guantanamo detainees, barring the
administration from bringing any into the United
States even for prosecution.

To some in the administration, by attempting to
dictate prosecution decisions, Congress had clearly
stepped on an executive prerogative, and they wanted
the president to declare the provision
unconstitutional in a signing statement in which he
would indicate that he was not bound by certain
provisions.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/guantanamo-bay-how-the-white-house-lost-the-fight-to-close-it/2011/04/14/AFtxR5XE_story.html

I think this condition should be revisited. Do you think our “do nothing” Congress could address this or are they too busy naming buildings and cutting taxes for the rich.

Worse yet, the cost to the United States worldwide reputation for trustworthiness, fairness and mercy is inestimable and can never be paid off in full.

Shutting down this travesty of jurisprudence was an issue Obama ran on in his election and failed the U.S. public with his falure to close it down.

While the inmates there may be of the worse kind, they are entitled to due process and freedom if the U.S. cannot make its case.

With travesties of judgement such as this, there are still some people who ask
“what do the OWSers want? It boggles the sane mind.