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Teenager Refuses Orders to Apologize to Conservative Governor

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Posted on Nov 27, 2011
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Emma Sullivan, 18, says she will not write an apology to Sam Brownback after telling her roughly 65 followers on Twitter that the Kansas governor sucks. Sullivan has gained thousands of additional followers since her high school principal ordered her to apologize to Brownback.

Sunday night, she tweeted the following: “I’ve decided not to write the letter but I hope this opens the door for average citizens to voice their opinion & to be heard! #goingstrong.”

Sullivan’s mother, Julie, is quoted by the AP as saying, “I raised my kids to be independent, to be strong, to be free thinkers. If she wants to tweet her opinion about Gov. Brownback, I say for her to go for it and I stand totally behind her.”

The young woman erroneously claimed in her tweet that she had confronted the governor while attending a school function.  —PZS

AP via Google:

The Shawnee Mission East senior was taking part in a Youth in Government program last week when she sent out a tweet from the back of a crowd of students listening to Brownback’s greeting. From her cellphone, she thumbed: “Just made mean comments at gov. brownback and told him he sucked, in person (hash)heblowsalot.”

She actually made no such comment and said she was “just joking with friends.” But Brownback’s office, which monitors social media for postings containing the governor’s name, saw Sullivan’s post and contacted the Youth in Government program.

Sullivan received a scolding at school and was ordered to send Brownback an apology letter. She said Prinicipal Karl R. Krawitz even suggested talking points for the letter she was supposed to turn in Monday.

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By drbhelthi, December 2, 2011 at 3:37 am Link to this comment

@heterochromatic

“tic”, perhaps the most consistent shill on Truthdig.
Similar to members of the satanic clans described by my link, you are not able to progress beyond telling others how to think and respond.  Attempting to subjugate, and control thoughts, in the same bucket with Gov. Brownnose and the clans described by my link.  Of course, continuing on this thread distracts from other Truthdig threads.

At least you have cleaned up your foul mouth, a very superficial improvement.  Sad that you cannot clean up your social values, and stop shilling for the luciferan-types.

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By heterochromatic, December 1, 2011 at 3:17 pm Link to this comment

drb~~~he has some of
the MK-Ultra programming characteristics, similar to the Kenyan with the alias,
“Barack H. Obama.”~~~~

lordy, lord, lord, drb.

maybe you can replace the black hat with one of these…...

http://propellerheadhats.com/shop/images/BrimlessBeanieCapWPatchAdult.jpg

the little blue star really adds something !

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By drbhelthi, December 1, 2011 at 3:04 pm Link to this comment

@heterochromatic

Then, it was simply a matter of Ozark Michael´s confusion, a continuation of
outdated thought patterns.  His pedantic tendency suggests that he has some of
the MK-Ultra programming characteristics, similar to the Kenyan with the alias,
“Barack H. Obama.”
 
“Barack H. Obama” performs precisely as the NAZI-CIA, MK-Ultra teams
programmed him to perform.  He says what the 99% want to hear, while carrying
out the orders of the 1%.  A human robot, incapable of doing otherwise.  His
insight was removed by the MK-Ultra programming.  Very sad.  He will never
genuinely experience the human sensations of his family and the world around
him.  It is also predictable that his brain will presently begin to short-circuit, which
will end his utility.
http://mindcontrolblackassassins.wordpress.com/category/racial-mass-murder/

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By heterochromatic, December 1, 2011 at 1:55 pm Link to this comment

tin foil is something that was replaced by aluminum foil 60 years ago.

it’s best that you not seek further information on that remark.

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By drbhelthi, December 1, 2011 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment

@OzarkMichael

Congratulations for home-schooling your offspring.  Wise move. 
I hope youse also have declined the crippling, alleged inoculations that the FDA and CDC use to cripple our children (grandchildren).  Inoculations only work the 20% associated with the placebo effect.  If inoculations worked, a flu shot would not be required annually.  Have you and your Mrs. noticed how many hundred girls and women have been lamed and killed by the gardasil shot in the US and Europe? 

“Swanky black cap?”  Thank you!  I sent it to the cleaners for an oil change, and it never came back.  Sad.  I really liked my black leather cap.  Warm in wintertime.

The shiny is the reflection of the camera flash on my glasses.  I am a retired member of the 99%, and could not afford the costly non-glare lenses.  What is tinfoil?

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By Leefeller, December 1, 2011 at 7:37 am Link to this comment

Yet another example of the tinfoil hat calling the foil hat shiny!

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By OzarkMichael, December 1, 2011 at 6:10 am Link to this comment

drb said:

The PR team of Governor “Brownnose the GHWBushSr entourage” speaks for him, while attempting to conduct mind control on the citizenry.

What is that bright reflection I see towards the top of your eyeglasses? Is that the silvery reflection of tinfoil under your swanky black cap?

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By drbhelthi, December 1, 2011 at 2:24 am Link to this comment

@Rodney
“It’s the Brownback who has left a brown stain on America.”

The PR team of Governor “Brownnose the GHWBushSr entourage” speaks for him, while attempting to conduct mind control on the citizenry.  It is obvious what governor Brownnose does with the “federal monies” assigned via the Homeland Security program.  Chalk up more waste of U.S. taxpayer dollars at the state level.

“Conservative” governor?  Not hardly.  One more boxcar coupled to the WWII, NAZI GHWBushSr locomotive.
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=8252175042329977626#

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By Alan Lunn, November 30, 2011 at 3:56 pm Link to this comment

I live here in the capital of Brownbackistan. I also
have read both of the books Sharlet put out about C.
Street. I have to say, Brownback makes me nervous.
But now that I hear he is monitoring social media, I
know that he is also paranoid.

He says he wants to know what people are thinking.
Right. The Thought Police. This is what is going on
in the dark rooms on the right. When you are building
a government “for God,” you start a revival: a
revival of torture, surveillance, spying, and
propaganda.

Brownback’s semi-secret society, C. Street, believes
in “government of, by, and for God” instead of the
“people.” “God,” in this case, is this
fundamentalist-dominionist idea of God, which is not
really in the Bible. It’s an invention and an
unfolding dogma.

Brownback was an evangelical who joined the Catholic
Church a few years ago. The Christian Right, today,
reminds me of the Catholic theocracy of the Middle
Ages in feudal Europe. There are a lot of eerie
parallels. David Bowie once sang, “I’m afraid of
Americans.” If Americans keep going on this right-
wing suicide path, we’re all going to be afraid.

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By heterochromatic, November 29, 2011 at 2:45 pm Link to this comment

sorry for the bad links…..not sure why they failed.

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By drbhelthi, November 29, 2011 at 2:27 pm Link to this comment

@heterochromatic, November 28 at 12:30 pm

I tried the link you supplied, with two browsers.  It failed to work, after three tries.  However, I searched and found a working link.

The statements made by the governor´s PR team remind me of what two former CIA agents reported about George H.W. Bush Sr., who was known as a “nice man.”
He earned the reputation by sending letters of condolence to the remaining family members of persons whom he had had assassinated.

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By heterochromatic, November 29, 2011 at 11:10 am Link to this comment

Seems like Brownbeck already has apologized.

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By oldog, November 29, 2011 at 7:33 am Link to this comment

Let me see if I’ve got this right.

Emma Sullivan post’s a goofy tweet to her friends, who no
doubt understood exactly what she meant.

Governor Sam Brownback’s spin doctors burglarize her
conversation and he shamelessly uses the power of his office
to score political points in the media attacking Emma through
her school principle.

Obviously, somebody needs to apologize for insulting the
state’s highest office.

In my humble opinion, that would be Sam Brownback.

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By OzarkMichael, November 29, 2011 at 6:22 am Link to this comment

Outraged comments:

OzarkMichael

Your comment” i would make her apologize and I
dont like Obama myself.”

Fat chance.

No, excellent chance.You have no idea what you are talking about.

We homeschooled our kids and both of them learned to show proper respect to elders, and the offices they hold. Once again, it isnt about liking or disliking the politician, its about showing respect. So, absolutely yes, if it was my kid, the apology would have been made. Not only that, i would add my own letter apologizing for my kid’s rude comments. Even to Obama, even though I dont like him.

It was a privilege to attend an event like that, and its an important lesson for kids to learn: with every privilege comes responsibility.

On the other hand, I dont like the idea that a government power watches for insults and collects them. I dont like that the state tracked down the kid, and I dont like the principal getting a phone call, and I abhore that public schools, acting with the power of the state, are able to supplant parental authority.

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By kerryrose, November 29, 2011 at 4:58 am Link to this comment

So TexGuy

The comments occurred outside the school. You advocating school (government) surveillance?

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By Leefeller, November 28, 2011 at 9:42 pm Link to this comment

One thing will never change from now on for me, when ever I see or hear any reference to Goveronor Brownbeck. I will from this day forward automatically in my mind forward to Brownbecks official nick name; “Sir Hesucksalot”.  I actually find it extremely harryass!

You know this may be the beginning of a new profession, the creation of the ‘professional nick namer’?  Maybe people can hire High School students to nick name other Repulcians like Waterloo Walker. Hell the Repulcians poor attempt to nick name something appeared like they worked overtime during one of the famous spittle fests and the only thing they could conjure up was Obmacare.

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 9:23 pm Link to this comment

Cliff——-yeah the people monitoring for mention of the Guv probably are
drawing government checks, and yeah, I’m no fan of Brownbeck…....

but the who;e thing is over and the Brownbeck acted correctly…unlike the the
staffers the principle or the kid.(at least the kid was acting like a kid, while the
others are supposed to act like adults).

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By Cliff Carson, November 28, 2011 at 9:14 pm Link to this comment

In response to heterochromatic, November 28 at 6:54 pm

Agreed she would have been rude if she had said to the Governor what she twittered to her friends.  But she didn’t say anything to the Governor.  And he didn’t see what she had twittered to her friends until one of his staff, who he was employed to skim the net for anything with his name, brought it to his attention.  Are we taxpayers paying for that lady to skim the net for the Governors friends and foes?

Emma was on a school function but was not at School, the function being at the State Capitol.

She never said anything to the Governor, she just expressed her opinion to her friends.  Whether she lied about what she did is of no consequence to the Governor.

What I said is that the Governor and the Principal were idiots to take the action they did.  They took that action - not because she was on a school function - but solely because she dissed the Governor in a conversation with friends.

Had she dissed the Governor while on the school yard to one of her friends at school would the Governor and the Principal have reacted as they did?  The answer is most likely no.  They wouldn’t have been that stupid.

They reacted because her words appeared in a public media, just think of the lies you get every time a politician speaks.

Basically what happened is that arrogance of power caused two probably normally rational people to react in abject stupidity.

And they paid the price for it.

It was their choice to open their mouths.

Emma was not nice but she had a right to say what she thought of the Governor at any time during her choosing, whether the Governor or the Principal liked it or not.

I think he sucks.

This Page is a public forum.

You think the Governor can successfully sue me?

Would he be stupid to try?

He knows he harmed his political career by his reaction.  That is why he apologized.  Bet he wishes he had kept his mouth shut in the beginning.  Would you agree with that?

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 7:54 pm Link to this comment

Cliff, if the principle read the tweet,and it’s pretty hard to imagine that the actual
text of the thing wasn’t brought to his attention,  he was gonna see that one of the
school’s students was rude to the Guv while the student was taking part in a
school event….in the student’s own words.


I certainly can imagine that the principal might find it entirely appropriate to
SUGGEST , strongly, that the student apologize…....A demand for an apology
doesn’t sit well with me, but the funny part was that the kid was lying about the
whole thing.

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By Cliff Carson, November 28, 2011 at 7:38 pm Link to this comment

Response to heterochromatic, November 28 at 5:19 pm comment:

Well I didn’t mean that it was scary for someone to monitor the Net for their own name:

What I was saying was that the Principal, who had no idea she said anything, who wasn’t monitoring the Net, would take it upon himself to appease the Governor, by ordering her to apologize.

Put simply, the E-Mail was from Emma to someone on Twitter.  It was a private conversation.  And she said that the Governor sucked.

What wou;d the Governor have done if she said something favorable about him?  What would the Principal have done if the Governor wanted the Principal to thank her for the compliment?

What the Governor and the Principal did was utterly stupid.  For that they have earned public scorn.

I feel it was deserved.

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 7:24 pm Link to this comment

c’mon Tex—-if she didn’t actually insult the Guv, she cant be told to
apologize…..even if she could be yold to apologize.


I will apologize the churlish replies to your comment… but that’s voluntary rather
than compulsory.

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By murtaza, November 28, 2011 at 6:55 pm Link to this comment
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Brownbeck:  “My staff overreacted to this tweet, and for that I apologize”

He shields himself somewhat from deserved guilt by hiding behind what his staff did.  He deserves more credit for this faux pas than he gives himself.

This is so not a real apology…  it’s cowardice.

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By SoTexGuy, November 28, 2011 at 6:45 pm Link to this comment

My opinion stands..

Students can and should be expected to show respect and civil discourse… it is within the domain of the schools to enforce some minimum rules of conduct..

I do not claim to know or care about the absolute truth of the student’s remarks or the motivations of the school administrators.. or the machinations of the governor or his staff..

So the student lied in addition to everything else done or not done or said?

What a great champion of free speech she is..

Thanks for your thoughtful and even-handed replies.

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By gerard, November 28, 2011 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment

God help us!

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By ALCAM, November 28, 2011 at 6:20 pm Link to this comment
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The fact that the governor’s office monitors his sort of communication system and
gets in touch with the principal of the school, requiring the school to “punish” the
girl brings me to the conclusion that she was very generous with her statement. 
The system is apparently far worse than she seems to suggest.

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 6:19 pm Link to this comment

Cliff——It is scary that a Principal couldn’t see the
impact of ordering a student to write an apology to
someone that was, unbeknown to her,  monitoring mail on
the net.——

Cliff, I tend not to think it scary that people monitor
net comments that mention their names.

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By Leefeller, November 28, 2011 at 6:14 pm Link to this comment

How does one define civil speech?  Well it works only if I get to be the decider on what civil speech is, so not South Texas Guy, now that works for me! Kinda goes with freedom of speech and burning of books, who makes the call?

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 6:10 pm Link to this comment

Hey Texguy—-perhaps you didn’t read the story
carefully. The girl didn’t actually make those mean
remarks to the Governor….She was just lying about
having done so to impress her friends.
An apology for being rude wasn’t actually in order….

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By upgradeyourlife, November 28, 2011 at 6:01 pm Link to this comment

SoTexGuy - your comment is stupid and unnaceptable

I expect and hope that such a public display of idiocy and poor judgement would be met by some
peer condemnation in any forum, public or other.

Sucky holidays to you.

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By SoTexGuy, November 28, 2011 at 5:19 pm Link to this comment

By kerryrose…You suck SoTexGuy.

What the heck is wrong with people these days?

You had your say, I had mine.. Is your name calling some kind of victory?

Happy Holidays to you too.

Adios!

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By kerryrose, November 28, 2011 at 4:58 pm Link to this comment

SoTexGuy

Why the hell should the school have any right to read or censore her texts?  Why the hell should she be civil?  If she wants to say ‘sucks’ it her frigging business and none of yours.

Who the hell is the polite police?  She is not a 10-year old!  She’s an adult!

You suck SoTexGuy.

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By SoTexGuy, November 28, 2011 at 4:02 pm Link to this comment

What I read of the student’s comments was rude and unacceptable..

Free speech cannot be stifled! Baloney.. What ever happened to civil speech? The school has every right to stand against rude behavior and speech.. The student could have and should have better chosen her remarks. I expect and hope that such a public display of disrespect and poor behavior would be met by some
disciplinary action in any school, public or other.

And no, I do not support governor Brownback.

Adios!

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By Cliff Carson, November 28, 2011 at 3:52 pm Link to this comment

heterochromatic, November 28 at 2:03 pm

I am not sure, but I think that is correct.  I am thinking that Brownbeck only apologized today, after she publicly refused to apologize.

It is scary that a Principal couldn’t see the impact of ordering a student to write an apology to someone that was, unbeknown to her,  monitoring mail on the net.

I suppose they weren’t smart enough to keep their mouth shut.  Had they been wise enough to not be arrogant, nobody but themselves and the girl would have known.

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By Raymond Peringer, November 28, 2011 at 3:13 pm Link to this comment
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Her high school principal has ordered her to apologize? This is none of his/her business. But it is another example of the intrusiveness into our lives of education bureaucrats. Does Big Brother/Sister now occupy the principal’s office?

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment

Cliff, perhaps you know more about the chronology of this than I, but it seems
that she was ordered to apologize early last week and have the apology written by
today….and the story became public the day before the Thanksgiving week-end
on Wednesday,

Is that more or less correct….and is there much of a delay with the Governor
contacting the school officials when school resumed today?

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By Cliff Carson, November 28, 2011 at 2:19 pm Link to this comment

heterochromatic, November 28 at 1:04 pm

The problem is - even though Btownbeck has now apologized - the delay in that apology illustrates that he did it only after the clamor arose across the Nation.

My condolences to Kansans for their embarrassment.  We all have our bad hair days.

Anybody getting busy trying to find a replacement Principal?  It is hard to see how such a turkey could survive Thanksgiving.

Dear Mr. Brownbeck, since you peek into other peoples private lives, when you read this, you should realize that I agree with the Girl - you suck.

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By SharonMI, November 28, 2011 at 2:12 pm Link to this comment
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“To clarify, I believe that the mention of “homosexual slurs” refers to the use of “he sucks” with negative connotation.  The use of the term implies that performing oral sex on a male is taboo.”

I thought the homophobe who wrote the comment misread Brownback and saw Brokeback and thought of the movie….not that there’s anything wrong with that (except for the homophobery)

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 2:04 pm Link to this comment

Turns out that Brownbeck did and said the right thing…..in this instance…..

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By Cliff Carson, November 28, 2011 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment

Republican Kansas Governor Sam Brownback has demonstrated why he is either too arrogant or too stupid to serve as Governor of any State.

And his “Keepers” realized that the enormity of that stupidity only after the news of his ignorance went viral on the Internet.

So this is what the Kansas people elected for Governor of their fine state.  Seining the Net for statements about their beloved.

Another Republican Office Holder proposed a way more sinister use of Internet seining some short years ago.  He proposed that a committee of people seine the Net to identify people who had thought patterns that might indicate a potential to become domestic “terrorists”.  The thought patterns that constitute a threat would be determined by that Office Holder, George Bush, and he would have the authority to “disappear” that potential person.

Barak Obama promised to end those sordid directives signed into law by der Bush, but then the power of the ring corrupted him also, and he didn’t negate them.

Go Girl.

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 1:30 pm Link to this comment

another, hopefully utile, link to Brownbeck


http://www.wibw.com/localnews/headlines/Gov_Brownback_Apologizes_For_Twee
t_Response_134617298.html

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By Leefeller, November 28, 2011 at 1:30 pm Link to this comment

I suspect Brownback dost not want to be known as connected at the hip with a Sanatorim kind of web search connection. Supposedly Brownback has already apologized saying the devil made his staff do it, thus steeping in the true Republican form of accountability.

So when someone types “Brownback” in Google,... “Hesucksalot” pops up, but even without a Google Sanatorium Goggling, the name ‘Brownback’ will always work for me or even better when playing the game charades!

Yes he does!

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment

FWIW ....from Brownbeck an apology to Ms Sullivan———


  ——- On Monday, Governor Brownback issued a statement apologizing for
his office’s response.

“My staff overreacted to this tweet, and for that I apologize,” he said statement
emailed to The Associated Press. “Freedom of speech is among our most
treasured freedoms.”——-


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/governor-brownback-apologizes-
emma-sullivan-twitter-tiff-article-1.983472

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By drbhelthi, November 28, 2011 at 1:02 pm Link to this comment

Apparently, maintaining a reasonably appropriate educational program, and
keeping related administrative and financial requirement in balance is not
enough for some principals.  Forcing teenage students to curtsey properly for the
governor is a new task that the vast majority of high school principals I have
been associated with do not care to be saddled with.

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By stormcloud, November 28, 2011 at 12:43 pm Link to this comment
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The Girl shouls certainly be forced to apologize…and her “mother” should use the opportunity to teach something about courtesy & vocabulary.  Its a sad commentary on the girl’s social skills & mom’s perenting skills

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By Larkshead, November 28, 2011 at 12:42 pm Link to this comment

To clarify, I believe that the mention of “homosexual slurs” refers to the use of “he sucks” with negative connotation.  The use of the term implies that performing oral sex on a male is taboo.

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By Morri Creech, November 28, 2011 at 11:18 am Link to this comment
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This incident—along with the fatuous rhetoric of reactionary politicians, police officials, and campus presidents in recent weeks—suggests that we have so internalized authoritarianism in this country that no one understands, or feels free to exercise, even our most basic freedoms. Leaders fan their bright feathers in arrogant puffery while the rest of us genuflect in response to every order, demand, and explanation they deign to provide, however fulsome or poorly justified they prove to be. Many in positions of power automatically and unthinkingly assume that their authority elevates them above criticism or reproach; and most of us automatically assume that these leaders are correct, as if freedom of speech must be abrogated to protect against hurting someone’s feelings. Good for this young woman for not backing down. If more people challenged the prerogatives of power, we would have less corruption and malfeasance, and fewer petulent elites fat with arrogance and self-importance.

OzarkMichael: I agree that political discourse is coarsening in this country, particularly in a digital age of virtual anonymity. But the answer is not to suppress free speech because it lacks decorum; if we did that, people would sublimate their anger and unleash it in other ways. As W. H. Auden said, “the mouse we banished yesterday / is an enraged rhinoceros today.” Give ‘em the right to speak, decorum bedamned. Split infinitives, use expletives; people should be speaking out more, not less. “Damn braces; bless relaxes,” Blake said. I don’t think the American people need their mouths washed out with soap; rather, they need an effective liberal education and exposure to literature, which broadens linguistic range and deepens critical thinking. Sometimes, though, even when a more elegant word is available, the gritty monosyllable is the more precise, the more eloquent, the more befitting and respectably candid. It’s Twitter we’re talking about here, for God’s sake, not the Washington Post.

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By Leefeller, November 28, 2011 at 11:10 am Link to this comment

Joe White,

“Funny that a student who identifies herself as liberal was the one to use a homosexual slur to try to insult someone.”

No! What is really funny is your post calling this a homosexual slur’;.... apparently only in your mind and possibly Gov. Throwbacks!

How about this, ‘hesucksalot’ refers to Brownback as a crappy governator or Brownback shows his unflinching loyalty as a knight of the Koch’s round table or Brownback just happens to frequent Hot Hildas house of ill repute and is well known for his fetish of sucking a lot, which would normally be considered heterosexually and for Republicans as being a leader!

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By prisnersdilema, November 28, 2011 at 9:58 am Link to this comment

Thats the problem with free speech….our elected officials don’t really believe it applies to
those that don’t like them….Who me?

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By SarcastiCanuck, November 28, 2011 at 8:12 am Link to this comment
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Jeeze,just the fact that the rants of an 18 year old is blown out of proportion like this should prove one thing…..Brownback sucks….and he is just one of many…

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By SharonMI, November 28, 2011 at 7:36 am Link to this comment
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“At the principal’s request, I am writing to express my regret to the governor of the state in which I live that he had the audacity to use a taxpayer funded employee to eavesdrop on my tweet. As the saying goes, “Eavesdroppers never hear good of themselves.” I certainly did not intend to hurt his sensitive feelings. My message was for my friends only (which inexplicably have exponentially increased huh!). I am 18 and can vote now. I hope in this land of the “free”, I won’t be forced to apologize for the way I vote and if I express my thoughts about the way I vote to my friends. What a country!

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By Manny Kohigan, November 28, 2011 at 7:15 am Link to this comment
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It seems that there should be contact to the school officials regarding this “order” by a school principal to apologize to a Governor.

I checked, and it’s a public school, paid for by taxes.

Principal Karl R. Krawitz had no right to “order her”, thereby infringing on her right to free speech, and he needs to be told this in no uncertain terms.  This is where unlawful government interference begins.  This is where it needs to end.
The fact that the incident occurred (or didn’t) on school property changes nothing.  That property is not private and it’s officials have no jurisdiction over students engaged in any lawful activity conducted (within legal regulations) on school grounds.

Principal Karl R. Krawitz seriously overstepped his bounds by getting involved in this at all.  Public school officials need to be ‘taught’ their legal limitations in terms they can clearly understand.

Manny Kohigan
Another victim of a public school system….who won.

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By ardee, November 28, 2011 at 5:48 am Link to this comment

OzarkMichael, November 27 at 9:09 pm Link to this comment


Hmmm, can we teach our children to elevate their political discourse? Or start them off young in the habits of ‘erroneous’ and hateful speech? Isnt this something that the Left decries?

HMMM, a high school girl texts her friends as high school children will. You, Michael, are equally childish in almost every effort you offer here. Can no one teach you?

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By Concerned Canuck, November 28, 2011 at 5:44 am Link to this comment

Since when have constituents been required to apologise to elected officials for voicing
disagreement?  Does this mean that anyone who didn’t vote for Brownback in the last
election should now sit down and write him an apology as well?  I was disappointed in the
Principal’s reaction: he should have told the Govornor’s office to go pound sand, that
young adults still have the right to their own political views and to voice opposition to
government policies.  This snivelling response, chastising the student and demanding that
she write an apology, is as weak as it is ineffective.  He should know that, pedagogically
speaking, forced apologies - on the school yard or written - are utterly useless as a tool to
teach social skills.  Put another way, the dude needs to grow a spine!

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By kerryrose, November 28, 2011 at 3:31 am Link to this comment

It’s legal for a politician to monitor social networking sites and demand retribution for opinions they do not like?

This is not a teenager.  She’s 18.  She’s an adult who has the freedom to dislike anyone she wants to dislike and to say it to anyone she wants to say it to.

Big brother anyone?

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By Outraged, November 28, 2011 at 2:37 am Link to this comment

Re: OzarkMichael

Your comment” i would make her apologize and I
dont like Obama myself.”

Fat chance. And I suppose you think Bachmann isn’t a
“Lying Ass Bitch” too.

Besides, there is a big difference between something
thats TRUE and something that’s FALSE (actually OM,
those are OPPOSITES)

She could be “noble” and write the apology. Something
like: “I’m so, so sorry that my Gov. is a thin-
skinned asshole, my principal is an ideologue and
that because of people like this my country lies in
ruins.”  That should work, yep OM…... I’d have my
kid apologize too, it could work.

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By Druthers, November 28, 2011 at 12:52 am Link to this comment

Of course no one should mention that the king has no clothes.
I thought this information was already public knowledge.

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By Todd, November 28, 2011 at 12:52 am Link to this comment
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By responding, Gov. Brownback proved he is a teenage girl.
By not apologizing, Emma Sullivan proved she understands the Constitution.

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By Mike Strong, November 27, 2011 at 11:41 pm Link to this comment
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This event is tiny but that only makes the issue even larger. For any official’s office to monitor social networks and then creepily to use that information to send a message to a minor official (the Prinicipal) in the role of apparatchik implying that he should stop or punish this girl’s rights to converse (essentially) with her buddies freely is what makes this large.

That neither the governor’s staff nor the principal should continue their jobs. This is not a small mistake. This is a major twist in thinking. This reveals more about Brownback than any number of policy discussions or campaign issues.

Good for that young lady, her sister and her mom for showing a pair. Fie on the principal for cowardice. Yeah she could have chosen some better wording but that is not ever the issue. It is a right to something so simple as a conversation without fear that agents of the state will punish you. Supposedly this only happened in totalitarian states, not the USA. Except if if walks like a duck, and talks like a duck ...

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By do over, November 27, 2011 at 10:32 pm Link to this comment

So Brownback sucks does he?  Ok I’m convinced.

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By OzarkMichael, November 27, 2011 at 10:09 pm Link to this comment

Hmmm, can we teach our children to elevate their political discourse? Or start them off young in the habits of ‘erroneous’ and hateful speech? Isnt this something that the Left decries?

I know if my child texted “Just made mean comments at Prez. Obama and told him he sucked, in person (hash)heblowsalot.” she wouldnt need the school principal to make her apologize, i would make her apologize and I dont like Obama myself.

However, i dont like the school principal finding out via the governor’s office. Too much “big brother is watching”.

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By Joe White, November 27, 2011 at 9:58 pm Link to this comment
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Funny that a student who identifies herself as liberal was the one to use a homosexual slur to try to insult someone.

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By gerard, November 27, 2011 at 9:40 pm Link to this comment

Curiouser and curiouser!  That this sort of thing should get serious national attention indicates priorities so skewed as to be ludicrous.  Any political figure who responds acrimoniously to a thing like this should resign from public office and see a shrink. And my father is better than your father, too, so there!

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By Rodney, November 27, 2011 at 8:53 pm Link to this comment
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This is the USA not the USSR. Tell the principal that
stuff worked for a while during the Bush presidency,
that’s is why the nation is still in the worst
economic position since the depression. Bush gave us
an America with absolutely no accountability. From
the war mongers to wall street crooks to the
lobbyists who practically wrote their own laws. Now
the young people who occupy wall street realize that
corporate barons stole their America and no one is
being held accountable. Many of them are now speaking
out. It’s the Brownback who has left a brown stain on
America. A brown shit stain that is.

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By JimMichie, November 27, 2011 at 8:39 pm Link to this comment
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Good for you, Emma.  Sam’s behavior is that of a typical Republican.  Arrogance hath no bounds?  Most arrogant Republicans have and know no shame!

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