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Taliban Shoots Down Helicopter in Afghanistan, 37 Dead

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Posted on Aug 6, 2011
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American and Afghan troops wait for a Chinook helicopter to land after completing an air assault mission in 2010.

In the deadliest day for American troops since the war in Afghanistan began almost 10 years ago, 30 Americans and seven Afghan commandos died Saturday when the Chinook helicopter they were in was shot down by the Taliban.

U.S. officials said some of those Americans were members of the Navy SEAL unit that killed Osama bin Laden but that none had been on the mission in which the al-Qaida leader was fatally shot. —BF

The New York Times:

Saturday’s attack shows how deeply entrenched the insurgency remains even far from its main strongholds in southern Afghanistan and along the Afghan-Pakistani border in the east. American soldiers had recently turned over the sole combat outpost in the Tangi Valley to Afghans.

Gen. Abdul Qayum Baqizoy, the police chief of Wardak, said the attack occurred around 1 a.m. Saturday after an assault on a Taliban compound in the village of Jaw-e-Mekh Zareen in the Tangi Valley. The fighting lasted at least two hours, the general said.

A spokesman for the Taliban, Zabiullah Mujahid, confirmed that insurgents had been gathering at the compound, adding that eight of them had been killed in the fighting.

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By Arabian Sinbad, August 11, 2011 at 4:31 pm Link to this comment

Thank you Taliban and well done for defending your homeland against invader-terrorist occupiers!

Besides the spectacular killing of some 30 of them last week, today you killed another 5 of those invaders-terrorist occupiers.

Congratulations again on a job well-done!

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By jr., August 11, 2011 at 10:53 am Link to this comment

Thank you Taliban.

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By Lew Ciefer, August 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm Link to this comment

Ohhhhhhh! Did you guys hear the latest? The U.S. found those scoundrels and kilt them all. That has got to hurt all you anti-Americans who were relishing inside your hearts a negative for the Evil Empire.

Worse, since you accpeted the news source when it was negtative you’ve no choice but to accept it now that it is positive for the Empire and the Troops that you love to hate so much.

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By Lew Ciefer, August 9, 2011 at 10:35 am Link to this comment

It is not the military’s job to protect our freedoms. The military’s job is to defend the nation from enemies.

This whole thing smells to high heaven. You don’t send a Chinook—a flying Greyhound bus—into a hot LZ without gunship or strike aircraft support.

And why do you have to have 6-7 Seal teams to do an evac? This is bullshit.

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By Arabian Sinbad, August 9, 2011 at 9:54 am Link to this comment

Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So .
Sunday, 07 August 2011 16:11 Jesse Richard  

Let’s make one thing crystal clear, no member of the US military contributes in any way whatsoever to protecting the freedoms of the American people. As a matter of fact, they are more likely to turn their weapons on you than they are to defend your Constitutional rights.

The only people on this planet Earth who can affect your freedom are members of Congress, local legislators and the members of enforcement institutions who will blindly follow the rulers who sign their paychecks. And, while your beloved troops are murdering people around the globe, yes, I said murdering, your Congress and local legislators are eliminating your freedoms, en masse, without any intervention by our so-called protectors in the armed forces.

There is no honor in volunteering to go anywhere in the world and kill anybody you are told to, without question, without historical background and without verifying the stated reasons for doing so. In this modern age of information we now know that time and time again our military have been deployed into battle, to kill and be killed, for reasons that in no way shape or form resemble the reasons for which they, or we were told at the time. This is no secret, although many Americans refuse to take off the flag that is wrapped around their eyes and see American history as it really happened.  They blindly believe what was told to them by the people who have a vested interest in maintaining myths and misconceptions.

The US military, not once but twice, committed the single largest mass murders in history by dropping nuclear weapons on civilian populations, including of course, on women and children.  Say what you want about how it helped end the war….the bottom line is the US could have exploded these devices over uninhabited territory with the same effect of scaring the heck out of the Japanese. But they followed orders that were lies and murdered almost 300,000 people, without question. As a human being I find it hard to honor such “patriotism.”

From the Gulf of Tonkin to the first and second invasions of Iraq, history now teaches…”
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Read the full article at

http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20246:our-troops-do-not-protect-our-freedom-and-we-should-stop-thanking-them-for-doing-so&catid=19&Itemid=77

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By Lew Ciefer, August 8, 2011 at 12:12 pm Link to this comment

It’s more than amusing to watch comments at this site—especially when its news with regards to the Middle East. If news is released informing the public that the Taliban and other Islamist fundamentalist terror groups are using children as suicide bombers posters here decry the info as false and CIA propaganda. Whenever news relating to the same area is presented as a negative for the U.S. it is automatically considered credible. 

The corporate-owned media has become the enemies’ most effective strategic weapon of mass destruction since at least Viet Nam. Its actions are treasonous. 

You Walter Cronkites would wave the white flag on a bee sting. One helicopter downed and you’re all ready to drop your pants and offer unconditional surrender.

The rules of engagement that the civilians profiting from the war have straddled U.S. forces with is criminal and reminds me of similar rules during Nam that put the American fighting man at a disadvantage—and still he bests his enemy. All those Dougout Dougs with their gimcrack salad dressing and prancing about like neutered peacocks should be stripped of all rank and privileges and given the traditional discharge reserved for cowards for not standing up for their men against civilian buffoons who don’t have anything to lose except their investments.

Someone reminded me—was scolding me—a few days ago that Jesus said ‘blessed are the peace makers’ ... in the Pacific during WWII the use of one weapon ended that war within days. It was a true Peacemaker!

What the U.S. needs is less Obumas, Panettas, Clintons, Betraeus, Bushes, Rumsfelds, Cheneys, et al and more Chesty Pullers and George Pattons.

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By lasmog, August 8, 2011 at 7:28 am Link to this comment

Who could have foreseen that occupying Afghanistan would lead to a bloody, pointless stalemate?  I mean, has this ever happened before?

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By mike, August 8, 2011 at 7:21 am Link to this comment
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One can not help but wonder if this is not a part of a coverup of a botched OBL
‘capture’ in Pakistan where eye witnesses claim there were no survivors of a
helicopter crash.

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By Basoflakes, August 7, 2011 at 8:16 pm Link to this comment

I’m glad that this report did not refer to the dead Americans as heroes, as was done by so many other US ‘news’ media, and as is done nightly.  I don’t mean to degradare our fallen troops in any way, but as long as we lionize fallen troops, we give credence to the ‘cause’ for which they are fighting, which is meaningless. 

After I read Sy Hersh’s ‘My Lai’ many years ago, I never thought of post WW2 American soldiers as heroes again.  If more Americans thought that way, maybe we wouldn’t push our children into war games seeking some ridiculous red badge of courage.  If there were no volunteers, there would be a draft.  If there was a draft, there may be folks who would think twice before adding to the Military Industrial Complex’s fodder.

I know this is fancy, but you can dream.  Heck, I dream of Medicare for all, a free and unmolested Palestinian State, non-oil based energy with a CCC type windfarm project, a reformed election process with real and inclusive debates and campaign reform, no K Street lobbyists writing all our bills for personal gains, and all other good stuff.

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By PH on Vacation, August 7, 2011 at 4:42 pm Link to this comment
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My heart goes out to those families whose members got killed.

Another reason to bring our troops home.

I can not think of one good reason why we (America) are still over there.

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By Big B, August 7, 2011 at 1:00 pm Link to this comment

Keep in mind folks, all the men killed were VOLUNTEERS. Many hailing from our military families that have been providing the MIC with cannon fodder for decades. What a stupid waste, especially when you consider that this chopper was probably shot down with one of the thousands of stinger missles that the CIA gave away to any towel head that said he didn’t like the russkies low these many years ago.

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By ckaren, August 7, 2011 at 11:14 am Link to this comment

@mrfreeze - That would be the blood of millions, not
thousands.  But your points are well taken.
Unlike you, however, I am moved nearly to despair
when I think of the thousands who have volunteered to
fight these wars - perhaps seduced by so-called
“benefits,” or perhaps out of some misguided sense of
patriotic duty after internalizing years of
propaganda.  Maybe even a couple of people who joined
up so they could kill people without going to jail. 
I remember the Vietnam war, when my aunt’s door was
broken down by the FBI, looking for my cousin who had
already fled to Canada to escape the draft.  Where is
our collective conscience?  Busily giving itself over
to an orgy of consumerism and the kind of false pride
that comes with thinking we are the superior race.  I
grieve not so much for those killed, but for those
still alive who have become mindless sheep.

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By Brojo, August 7, 2011 at 10:30 am Link to this comment
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One reason to hate the US occupation of Afghanistan is
it stimulates a perverted satisfaction when US soldiers
are killed by the patriots defending their homeland. It
is unfortunate their commanders do not suffer similar
fates.

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By TDoff, August 7, 2011 at 9:33 am Link to this comment

The truly sad aspect of this tragedy is that it is going to be replicated, time after time, until the US quits it’s striving for world-empire-domination. And that won’t happen until the US populace rejects the self-serving lies and propaganda of it’s corporate and uber-rich rulers, and their toady-politician/servants.

And that won’t happen until US citizens, en masse, become educated, aware and critical of the bullsh*t they are fed from birth.And that won’t happen.

So we just better keep on with our unregulated, uncontrolled and uncontrollable capitalist economy, that assures there will always be a lower-‘middle’ bottom-class who will need to become mercenary ‘christian’ soldiers in order to survive. And in order to provide targets for those miscreant-‘terrorists’ in the world who choose not to docilely accept our preemptive wars of aggression and empire.

At least until our rulers achieve their goal of completely robotizing the art of war, and will then be able to completely dispense with the lower (90+%) classes and the niggling annoyances they cause.(Except for a few gratefully subservient robot-mechanic ‘Generals’).

At that point, those who rule the world and therefore deservedly should be able to solely enjoy it’s benefits, will also be able to rid themselves of the pretense that they are ‘job-creators’.

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By Tesla, August 7, 2011 at 7:24 am Link to this comment

Because the U.S. has not been in a real shooting
war with opponents at least nominally equivalent
to our own forces, we have not suffered the loss
of life and equipment that rises to the level of
shock (or at least mild surprise) in our
estimation.

If we were to engage say Israeli forces on equal
terms, we could well get our collective asses
handed to us in normal conventional battlefield
operations for a short time at least.

Because we have so much technology, weaponry and
logistical capabilities we overwhelm lesser forces
with minimal damage to us.

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By brianrouth, August 7, 2011 at 3:51 am Link to this comment

we shouldn’t be there and what divine retribution to kill the team who supposedly
shot Bin Laden!!!!

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By dsmith, August 7, 2011 at 3:13 am Link to this comment
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What a tragedy. The longer we continue to occupy this god foresaken goat farm, the more senseless killings we can expect.

I continue to be amazed that the citizens of Afghanistan don’t seem to understand the rules of war. The US is suppose to do all of the killing and maiming, the locals are not suppose to shoot back.

How stupid are they? We’re a superpower!

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By Son of Palestine, August 6, 2011 at 5:07 pm Link to this comment

This is really the type of news that one can call sad/good news!

Sad, of course, for the dead ones and their family members, and sad for the American anf Afghan tax-payers as they have an added burden to support the families of increasing numbers of so-called “heroes dying for our freedoms” though I like to call them “sacrificed at the evil alters of war-mongers politicians and merchants of death!”

Good news, ironically, because the death of this large number of soldiers in one incident would highlight the evils of this unholy war, and the evils and the lies of the political-military establishment who keep lying about winning this war and ignoring the cost in blood and treasure that continues to mount every day!

Obama, in particular, has the blood of those latest casualties on his hands, as he revealed his hypocrisy and lies about opposing these wars when he was a candidate, yet it was he who ordered the escalation of war on the Afghan front by sending more troops as a president.

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By AnAlienEarthling, August 6, 2011 at 3:43 pm Link to this comment

Given this report, what are we to think of the
assessments that we have been told during the past
several years about how the Taliban are winding down?
Weren’t we told about a year ago that their numbers were less than ten, a few months ago that we are near success is dismantling their CnC, and so many other optimistic assessments?
Am I the only person who hears an uncomfortable
similarity between these assessments and thoss of
General Westmoreland about the Vietnam War?
It is for this reason that a knowledge of US history is so important for the American people. History - and the history of only the past few years - have undermined any credibility in the military’s reiterated reports of “success” and eventual defeat of the enemy.
Johnson’s Great Society program was sacrificed so the US could continue down a path to eventual defeat - or “Peace with Honor” (let’s preserve our courage and not play semantics with the truth) - despite the widespread opposition to the War.
Now, all viable domestic therapies for America’s
children, for its millions of poor and sick and
unemployed are sacrificed so that America can continue down a path that history should convince any rational person will eventually bring about a world suffering an epidemic of anti-American hatred, and, therefore, pandemic proportions of anti-American terrorism.
Is there even a modicum of effective rationality - or memory - left among the American public? Our
widespread cancerous irrationality aside, where is
our compassion, our care for human life?
Killing children, parents, entire families, destroying property and infrastructure, and fragmenting otherwise caring networks of human relations has NEITHER ever ended such killing or destruction or fragmentation NOR ever contributed
to making the world a better place for our children and our future generations - factor in the parameters of climate change in these considerations, and our children’s futures seem bleak indeed - and I mean ALL of Earth’s children!
What price will we eventually have to pay for our misguided, unconstrained irrational selfish interests? What price are we paying now?

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By mrfreeze, August 6, 2011 at 2:53 pm Link to this comment

As I wrote on the Huffington Post’s ridiculous headline..“Historic Grief”:

“This is the sort of headline that only a badly damaged and failing nation would rally around. Reading down this thread is truly disturbing­.

None of this was necessary. The American people allowed themselves to be deceived into these wars based on false pretences and now we want to cry about the thousands of tragic deaths.

I, Mr. Freeze am unmoved. Perhaps I could muster a nano-tear except that this country, this half-blind empire that I call home was, is and always will be wrong about our execution of these unjust and unproducti­ve wars.

So go ahead and waive those chinese-ma­de flags on your cars, wear your lapel pens and past “I support the troops” bumper stickers on your cars….it­‘s your blind nationalis­m that has the blood of thousands on it.”

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By Leefeller, August 6, 2011 at 2:29 pm Link to this comment

“U.S. officials said some of those Americans had been members of the same Navy SEAL unit that killed Osama bin Laden.”  Well there you have it, payback is a bitch, especially when you make a point to announce it!

Someone should let the Taliban they did good, or did they?

Was it really the same Navy SEAL unit?

Why would they even announce this?

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