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Syria’s Assad Tells Barbara Walters He’s Not Guilty

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Posted on Dec 7, 2011
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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad greets ABC News star Barbara Walters for their interview.

These are strange times indeed when embattled world leaders consider going on ABC to talk to Barbara Walters an effective and desirable form of diplomacy. That’s just what Syrian President Bashar al-Assad did Wednesday for a little international damage control after his regime came under fire for killing thousands of protesting citizens in recent months. Assad’s PR blitz failed to sway the White House, however.  —KA

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Syria’s president has said that he feels no guilt about his crackdown on a 10-month uprising, despite reports of brutality by security forces.

In an interview with the US network ABC, Bashar al-Assad said he had given no orders for violence to be used against protesters but admitted “mistakes” were made.

He said he did not own the security forces or the country.

At least 4,000 people have been killed since the uprising began, the UN says.

However, Mr Assad said the UN was not credible.

Syria blames the violence on “armed criminal gangs”.

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By blogdog, December 12, 2011 at 6:06 pm Link to this comment

http://vimeo.com/21358374

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By heterochromatic, December 12, 2011 at 5:54 pm Link to this comment

dog, you so crazee

http://youtu.be/yWz_5r_BZxA

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By blogdog, December 12, 2011 at 4:07 pm Link to this comment

tic, of course, I hope you know,  the spooks play every side of every conflict -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuA2P3pyy0g

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By heterochromatic, December 12, 2011 at 2:38 pm Link to this comment

dog,  NATO is very worried about this and only the likelihood that they might be
investigated by Idi Amin worries them more.

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By blogdog, December 12, 2011 at 2:14 pm Link to this comment

AP Exclusive: NATO may face posible ICC probe
November 11, 2011|By SLOBODAN LEKIC and MIKE CORDER, Associated Press

(11-11) 01:53 PST Brussels, Belgium — (11-11) 01:53 PST BRUSSELS, Belgium
(AP)—

Some NATO members are worried that their organization may be investigated
by the International Criminal Court after its prosecutor said allegations of
crimes committed by NATO in Libya would be examined “impartially and
independently,” according to diplomats accredited to NATO headquarters.

The diplomats said action to pre-empt a war crimes investigation would likely
include an immediate internal legal review of all incidents in which NATO
bombing or other actions caused civilian casualties.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-11-11/world/30390523_1_nato-forces-nato-bombing-october-nato

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By diamond, December 12, 2011 at 1:46 pm Link to this comment

“However, Mr Assad said the UN was not credible.”

Murderers and tyrants always say the UN is not credible. That is standard operating procedure. Unless all those civilians protesting peacefully in the streets decided to commit mass suicide, Assad’s responsibility for their deaths is clear and unambiguous. And he knows it. And don’t start throwing the ‘al Qaeda’ bogeyman around to defend his cold blooded murder of his own people. It won’t wash.

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By diamond, December 12, 2011 at 1:42 pm Link to this comment

“Application of Command Responsibility- Nuremberg Trials

Crimes against peace

The planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing.

War crimes

Violations of the laws and customs of war. A list follows with, inter alia, murder, ill-treatment or deportation into slave labour or for any other purpose of the civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, the killing of hostages, the plunder of public or private property, the wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity.

Crimes against humanity

Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhuman acts committed against ANY CIVILIAN POPULATION, before or during the war, or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.”


The last one clearly covers most of Assad and his henchmen’s activities and that is what he would probably be charged with if he was sent to the ICC.

On the other hand, the first one is relevant to Bush and Cheney’s activities in the lead up to the Iraq war and the second one is relevant to the activities of the military in occupied Iraq with regards to Abu Ghraib. The third is relevant to the kidnapping, imprisonment and torture of people all over the world by US intelligence.

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By blogdog, December 12, 2011 at 11:02 am Link to this comment

that’s perhpas your most imaginative straw men yet
now, tic, before you start lecturing about how what’s linked here
defeats the polemic, study it carefully and then what was said to Walters in
the interview: “...you don’t live here.”

Empire production:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdpzVlhKlqs&feature=related

Syrian regime production:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUIV_d7lz7o&feature=related

Analysts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2F7utN5smg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj5QMJrHQEE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L49L6iZSSg

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By heterochromatic, December 11, 2011 at 11:45 pm Link to this comment

yeah dog, NATO paid all those people to shoot themselves with imitation Syrian
security force weapons

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By blogdog, December 11, 2011 at 11:41 pm Link to this comment

agreed, Assad is in a weak position on accountability for security forces, but on
these points, he seems to be correct:

At least 4,000 people have been killed since the uprising began, the UN says.
However, Mr Assad said the UN was not credible.
Syria blames the violence on “armed criminal gangs”.

again, as in Libya, it looks suspiciously like ginned up agitprop - NATO
intelligence’s goal:  achieve a reason to invade, incite civil war, fail another state
- what they do in service to the global finance oligarchy.

as for the “...armed criminal gangs…” 

The Al Qaeda Insurgency in Syria: Recruiting Jihadists to Wage NATO’s
“Humanitarian Wars”

Published on September 4, 2011
PART III
by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky
http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=11177

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By heterochromatic, December 11, 2011 at 10:23 pm Link to this comment

diamond, thank you for the reply.  we finally agree on something.

(including that it didn’t come out of Nuremberg)

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By diamond, December 11, 2011 at 9:39 pm Link to this comment

“Command responsibility, sometimes referred to as the Yamashita standard or the Medina standard, and also known as superior responsibility, is the doctrine of hierarchical accountability in cases of war crimes.

The doctrine of “command responsibility” was established by the Hague Conventions IV (1907) and X (1907) and applied for the first time by the German Supreme Court in Leipzig after World War I, in the 1921 trial of Emil Muller.

The “Yamashita standard” is based upon the precedent set by the United States Supreme Court in the case of Japanese General Tomoyuki Yamashita. He was prosecuted in 1945, in a still controversial trial, for atrocities committed by troops under his command in the Philippines. Yamashita was charged with “unlawfully disregarding and failing to discharge his duty as a commander to control the acts of members of his command by permitting them to commit war crimes.”

In other words, as the commander in chief you are responsible for the crimes committed by those under your command. And it is also no defense to claim that you were ‘following orders’ as a soldier. This is why Assad is claiming he has no control over the army and the intelligence services. It’s not true, but he wants to claim it is, for obvious reasons.

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By heterochromatic, December 11, 2011 at 2:11 pm Link to this comment

diamond~~~perhaps you didn’t understand my question.


~~~~~~ if Assad says that he doesn’t really control the
security forces and they’re acting without his consent in killing citizens, why
do"Nuremberg rules” say he’s still guilty?~~~~~

AS I said,,,, I don’t believe him, but the question was about your use of
Nuremberg rules.


I was curious as to what you specifically meant to cite from Nuremberg, not
looking to defend his absurd lies.

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By diamond, December 11, 2011 at 1:17 pm Link to this comment

“(of course, I don’t really buy his story, but what’s wrong with his attempted
defense?)”.

If you don’t know what’s wrong with his defense I’m afraid I can’t assist you. It’s like Hitler saying, “I was just having tea with my Schaeferhund and my canary when the SS went crazy and started killing millions of Jews. I had nothing to do with it’. It’s ludicrous on its face and can only be dismissed with a snort of derision.

I think Assad is revealing to the world the defense he will use at the ICC in the Hague. It didn’t work for Milosevic. He doesn’t seem to understand the concept of accountability in government but most tyrants don’t. Killing your own people in the middle of an uprising is a bad idea because there are millions of them, only one of you and they will never forget. It can only lead to charges being laid or a bullet entering the head of the tyrant in question, the way Gaddafi was shot by his own people with his golden pistol.

Interestingly, Gaddafi used the same defense as Assad: he came out of that pipe saying, ‘What’s going on? What’s happening?’ as if he was Rip van Winkle and had slept through the whole thing. This enraged his captors, who had watched friends and family die at the hands of his thugs and they carried out summary justice. Remember what happened to Mussolini? Ceausescu? I don’t imagine Assad is getting much refreshing sleep these days which is probably why he’s talking such nonsense.

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By blogdog, December 8, 2011 at 11:57 pm Link to this comment

don’t fall for the agitporp…

http://counterpsyops.com/2011/12/08/cia-mossad-snipers-in-syria/

CIA / Mossad Snipers in Syria
Many members of these death squads have been captured by the Syrian
Government and many have confessed in detail their operations, where they
received their support, weapons etc. Many have been caught with US produced
M40A3 snipers and US openly admits they have supported terrorists in and outside
Syria with 50 million (USD).

This video finally shows visual evidence of these US death squads (watch the whole
video please):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-kjKVzJJtk&feature=player_embedded

at the end of the clip we see a sniper nailed with his weapon

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By heterochromatic, December 8, 2011 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment

diamond~~~~ this a comment of yours with which I do not wish to disagree.

However, I would ask you to clarify.  if Assad says that he doesn’t really control the
security forces and they’re acting without his consent in killing citizens, why
do"Nuremberg rules” say he’s still guilty?


(of course, I don’t really buy his story, but what’s wrong with his attempted
defense?)

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By diamond, December 8, 2011 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

His father killed 30,000 Syrians last time they rose up and demanded democracy. By those standards the killing has a long way to go and Assad is the head of the government and therefore completely accountable for it. Even if he was taking orders from someone else instead of giving them, by the rules established at Nuremberg he would still be guilty.

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By bluejeanne, December 8, 2011 at 11:26 am Link to this comment
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Remember Sadam Hussein’s last interview with Dan Rather of CBS in Feb of 2003 shortly before the invasion of Iraq ?  Hussein looked civilized and elegant in his three-piece suit while calmly sipping coffee.
Now it’s Babara Walters of ABC introducing the soft-spoken Assad into the living rooms of the world as he assures Ms. Walters/(the viewers) that he is not responsible for the repression in Syria.

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By gerard, December 8, 2011 at 10:14 am Link to this comment

So what else is new?  All day every day, the 1% tell the many Barbara Walters-es on the airwaves (and hence the whole world) the exact same thing—that is:
“We are entitled to our noxious exertions of power and manipulation over all you worthless people.  We are entitled to keep the majority of you in poverty, ignorance and fear.  We are not responsible for our ruthlessness, and if you try to challenge our superiority, we will see that you are beat up, jailed up and shut up by our “security forces.” Assad but true.

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By SarcastiCanuck, December 7, 2011 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment
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I guess Bashar has followed the Bill Clinton school of truth telling.“I did not have sexual relations with blah,blah,blah” and “I had nothing to do with the deaths and torture of my countrymen,women and children blah,blah,blah”.Same bullshit,different alleged leader.Nice denial and rationalization Mr.Assad.So what are you,a liar or a toothless tiger?Maybe Bill’s foundation has a gig for you now….

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