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Senate to Drop ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ Repeal

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Posted on Nov 8, 2010
U.S. Air Force / Tech. Sgt. Francisco V. Govea II

Sens. Carl Levin and John McCain of the Armed Services Committee are reportedly working to shelve the legislative effort to end the military’s ban on openly gay service members.

With a diminished Democratic majority in the Senate, an incoming Republican House and an administration that lacks genuine enthusiasm for the cause, there doesn’t appear to be any champions willing to fight it out in the lame duck session on behalf of gay and lesbian troops.

Seventy percent of Americans, according to Gallup, favor allowing gay men and women to serve openly in the military.  —PZS

The Wall Street Journal:

Sens. Carl Levin of Michigan and John McCain of Arizona, the top Democrat and Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, are in talks on stripping the proposed repeal and other controversial provisions from a broader defense bill, leaving the repeal with no legislative vehicle to carry it. With a repeal attached, and amid Republican complaints over the terms of the debate, the defense bill had failed to win the 60 votes needed to overcome a procedural hurdle in the Senate in September.

A spokeswoman for Mr. McCain, who opposes the repeal, confirmed he is in talks with Mr. Levin on how to proceed on the defense bill but didn’t provide details.

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By Steve, November 9, 2010 at 11:38 pm Link to this comment
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“87marine” has been posting that same screed, word-for-word, everywhere on the internet. I read it earlier today on a number of sites (salon.com, latimes.com, huffpo, etc.).

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By th, November 9, 2010 at 8:24 pm Link to this comment
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Obama wants the legal right to assassinate American citizens, without due process or legal oversight, anywhere in the world.

What makes anyone think that a madman like that, who’s apparently hell-bent on becoming dictator of the USA, gives a rat’s-ass about gays or gay rights?

Our government doesn’t work for the people.  It works against the people.

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By mdgr, November 9, 2010 at 4:10 pm Link to this comment

People like “87marine” who refer to the “gay agenda” seem to be cursed with a particular kind of self-loathing.

My guess is that they’re secretly as hypocritical as Larry Craig, but unlike that famous toilet-senator, they haven’t yet been busted.

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By thethirdman, November 9, 2010 at 2:28 pm Link to this comment

I’m kind of surprised anyone even cares about this issue.

I encourage everyone I meet to abstain from any kind of military service.

I don’t support the troops
and neither should you.

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By gstoddard, November 9, 2010 at 2:22 pm Link to this comment

“Unlike the lily-livered Secretary of Defense Gates, thank goodness the new
Commandant of the USMC has the courage to put the issue in focus: It is a matter of
our military in combat and the priority is not letting gays serve openly.”

Isn’t it a bit disrespectful for a military man to call the nation’s civilian leader of the
military “lily-livered” because someone disagrees with his principled position? 

While the Commandant of the USMC is considered courageous for his stand, the
position of Admiral Mike Mullen Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is ignored.  “For me,
personally, it comes down to integrity—theirs as individuals and ours as an
institution.” he said “I also believe that the great young men and women of our
military can and would accommodate such a change” continued Mullen. “I never
underestimate their ability to adapt.”

I have nothing but the highest regard and respect for our military, but what are they
fighting for if not to protect the rights of the citizens of our nation? The military led
the way with racial integration and acceptance. This is no different.

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By bogglesthemind, November 9, 2010 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment

Re: 87marine, November 9 at 6:23 pm

See how liberal we are?  Even morons can post here.

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By 87marine, November 9, 2010 at 1:23 pm Link to this comment

It only makes sense to prevent the liberals from imposing their gay agenda on the US military. Some comments reflect their selfish motives such as the idea that the military is comprised of factions of our population such as the gay contingent and each faction should be pampered independently based on their political/sexual preference sway.

Nonsense. The military is the only institution established solely to defend our nation; it is not a melting pot of individuals each with their own agenda. Militaries could not function that way.

Unlike the lily-livered Secretary of Defense Gates, thank goodness the new Commandant of the USMC has the courage to put the issue in focus: It is a matter of our military in combat and the priority is not letting gays serve openly. ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ works effectively. All gays have to do is to obey rules of conduct. If they don’t, they’re gone. Simple.

Now, at a time when our military is as heavily engaged as it has been for more than forty years, at a time when individual troops are ordered to repeated
deployments to the war zones, now in a time of military uncertainty and maximum commitment, is the wrong time for our politicians to advocate for a social-engineering experiment by endorsing an end to the current don’t ask, don’t tell policy.

Neither the president nor an overwhelming preponderance of those in Congress have served a single day in our country’s military. For them now to pander to a vocal minority seeking a liberal interpretation of society’s rules is disturbing and quite revealing as to the total lack of any consideration of the residual effects of their actions. To politicize our military in a time of war is as incredibly contemptible as it is indisputably ignorant of the military as an institution, a separate and distinct body tasked with the most crucial tasks of defending our nation in a time of war.

To our politicians I say: Tinker with the civilian world if you must; do not attempt to impose your liberal agenda on America’s military for the purpose of vote gathering.

Are there gays in our military? Certainly and always has been. “Don’t ask, don’t tell!”

You can read my complete article here:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5815772/dont_ask_dont_tell_and_the_foll
y_of.html?cat=9

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By Gregory Goldmacher, November 9, 2010 at 11:11 am Link to this comment

Once the Pentagon report on this is released, won’t they do away with it anyway?

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By gstoddard, November 9, 2010 at 1:07 am Link to this comment

If President Obama and the Democrats need any more insight into why they are
doing so poorly among their constituents, they only need to look at the failure of
their approach to repealing DADT. We have been patient as the president and
Secretary Gates have argued for an orderly process, but that process has been a
cynical ploy.

Here we are with a few weeks of legislative time left in the current session and this
issue is no where near the top of their priority list and after January the Republicans
will bury the issue.

I get so weary of the Republican rhetoric about listening to the voters. Sure! Listen
to Americans when they confirm your ideological position. But put in the earplugs
when 70% of the “American People” in a Gallup poll support allowing openly gay
men and lesbian women to serve in the military.

Senators McCain and Levin are now agreeing to delete the repeal amendment from
the defense authorization bill, thus killing this process for the indefinite future.

The president’s silence on this issue is deafening and his rhetoric is as empty
anything we hear from the Republicans.

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By bogglesthemind, November 8, 2010 at 11:48 pm Link to this comment

What the Hell is with the photo?

Huh? What the Hell is with the photo?

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