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Senate Debate to Focus on Abortion

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Posted on Dec 7, 2009

The health care reform bill that made it through the House of Representatives last month didn’t exactly win rave reviews from the pro-choice camp, and now it’s the Senate’s turn to have it out over whether government-subsidized health care should ever include coverage for abortions and, if so, under what circumstances that should be allowed.  —KA

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The amendment by moderate Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska would mirror language from the health care bill passed by the House last month that prevents any health plan receiving federal subsidies from offering coverage for abortion. It was unclear if a Senate vote on Nelson’s amendment would occur Monday.

Anti-abortion legislators say the House language that Nelson seeks to adopt maintains the current level of restriction by preventing any federal funding for abortion, except in the case of rape, incest or a threat to the life of the mother.

Opponents of the tougher language say the amended language would expand the current level of restriction because women receiving coverage under a federally subsidized health care plan would be barred from purchasing abortion coverage with their own money.

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By OzarkMichael, December 8, 2009 at 11:50 am Link to this comment

The Health Care bill could be a vehicle for expanding federal support for abortion. Most of you think that would be fine. Obama would approve of it too.

You have a right to your opinion and to promote it as a policy. If Healthcare legislation had a loophole that allows expanded federal support for abortion, the Left would be within their rights to take advantage of it.

Therefore, your assurances that abortion funding wont be expanded ring a little hollow. Trusting you on this issue is like trusting Donald Rumsfeld about the war in Iraq. Everything sounded so official and so certain, but lets be honest… it wasnt. Whenever people have an agenda, the opposition should think twice before taking their word on anything.

So, as a “Right to Lifer” you will forgive me for not trusting verbal assurances and handshakes. I instructed my congressman to vote against any health care bill that did not have it in writing. I have contacted my senators with the same request.

purplewolf said: Time to move on already.

Hmm. Are we really done? Maybe we should think more?

Or, if you really want to move on, if it really is a dead horse, you should just call your senators and instruct them to vote for any amendment to the HealthCare bill that restricts the federal and insurance abortion funding to status quo ante.

Please say you will.

Then we all can move on.

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By rollzone, December 7, 2009 at 9:23 pm Link to this comment

hello. my opinion is the fetus ought to have a right to murder the mother. many women run around horny and copulating, with no consideration for pregnancy; and if i were a child of one of these girls, and i had a choice- it would be kill my momma. i would not want to endure life through adolescence, being neglected and abused by someone that would rather have me scooped out of her uterus. any girl that would want to murder me before i was even born, i wish i had a choice to murder her first. my opinion is make it as difficult as possible for a woman to have an abortion.

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By purplewolf, December 7, 2009 at 4:22 pm Link to this comment

It is already on the books as far as funding for abortion. Seems that all the repukes can do is focus on a dead horse and continue to beat it into dust, as they have already beaten it to death long ago. Time to move on already. So the clause they claim women have to allow for an abortion are rape, incest or medical threat to the mother, they should also include if the fetus had severs medical defects.

Abortion should be a private matter and not the business of total strangers, especially the government. Family members often cannot find out about the people in their families they often take care of, yet total strangers can get the lists of names to scrutinize to see if a woman had an abortion when she was a minor in another state-this was tried by the busy bodies in New York trying to victimize women in Michigan a little over a year ago under bush. And let’s not forget Bush’s worthless privacy act we all have to sign every time we have certain medical visits.

Men really should have no say what a woman does, as it is her body that has to go through the production of creating a new human on a planet of too many people already and since the repukes declared long ago that health care is not a human right, then one would think they certainly would not want any surplus babies that might use up the dwindling supply of food, energy, etc.. that they could horde for themselves.

What! screams the right winger, repugs, birthers, me share my bounty of excessive surplus wealth with those who are less fortunate solely because of the laws we dictate they have to abide by, Heaven’s no! It is their own fault they are poor, after all if they didn’t have so damned many kids in the first place they too could have the luxury of food and health care, but we damned well are going to make certain they remain poor and they progeny too, forever.

Abortion should be between a woman, her doctor, the father if he is still in the scene and the persons spiritual beliefs if she feels the need. Otherwise everyone else should but out.

Women rarely have an abortion without thinking about it for some time and most know full well the outcome when they come to the conclusion of going ahead and abortion a potential human or giving birth. It is a personal matter, but in America a woman’s uterus belongs to the public and the government and total strangers who feel it is their right to treat women as baby factories rather than educated people.

After all, if you cannot trust a woman with making a choice, how can you trust her to raise a child?

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By Spiritgirl, December 7, 2009 at 2:05 pm Link to this comment

So exactly when did these men start having and being the sole care-takers of children?  And as there are how many million children in this nation that don’t have health-care, have enough food to eat, and are currently home-less, exactly how does this justify these same “right to life” reformers righteous indignation regarding abortion?!?!  And since these same “right to lifers” are against birth control and sex education - maybe they should keep their own johnsons to themselves, just a thought…..

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