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Sadr Delivers an Ultimatum to U.S.Posted on Apr 9, 2011
Moqtada al-Sadr is back, issuing an ultimatum to American troops and contractors: Leave Iraq by the end of the year or he will revive his Mehdi Army and relaunch attacks on the United States’ post-withdrawal presence in the country. —JCL
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By Inherit The Wind, April 12, 2011 at 10:43 pm Link to this comment
Dihey,
Report thisYour essay merely re-enforces my assertion that al-Sadr is adopting TeaParty tactics. I fail to see the difference other than some minor contextual issues. Tactically, it’s the same.
By gerard, April 11, 2011 at 1:26 am Link to this comment
dihey: Thanks for your correction and extension. My comment was too smart-aleck and not clear. My thought was only to pick up on the many ultimata issued from the U.S. to that part of the world, and the position of superiority we assume in issuing those ultimata.
Report thisBy Aarky, April 10, 2011 at 10:52 pm Link to this comment
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Most papers in the US will talk up Al-Sadr’s comments, but ignore the fact that Gates was in Iraq, trying to sweet talk/pressure them into allowing the US military to stay after our welcome has long wore out. The State Department has already informed the world that they expect to keep several thousand hired guns/mercenaries and a huge amount of bureaucrats in the embassy. They would be best served if they close the embassy down rather than trying to justify staying in Iraq because they love us. Staying will only be an excuse to keep additional thousands of troops to protect the bureaucrats.
Report thisBy dihey, April 10, 2011 at 8:21 pm Link to this comment
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gerard, madisolaion, kanamachi, inherit the wind, and knopfler, I suggest that you study the text of SOFA-IRAQ (available on Google) and Iraq politics so that you can understand why your comments are wildly beside the mark.
Report thisSOFA-IRAQ was signed for our country by President Bush in November 2008. It stipulates that all foreign armed forces personnel AND THEIR CIVILIAN SUPPORT PERSONNEL must be out of Iraq on December 31, 2011 at midnight. That agreement must be honored by our government. If it does not do so then we are automatically at war with Iraq because there are U.S. soldiers illegally in that country without the consent of Congressd, a violation of our constitution.
That agreement is still in force and is not likely to be amended before that date.
The Government of Iraq can ask President Obama to keep U.S. Armed Forces in Iraq after that date but to be able to do so he needs the assent of Al Sadr’s party which participates in his government.
Al Sadr’s statements are therefore not directed at our government but at Al Maliki. Al Sadr is repeating his well known position that all foreign soldiers must be out of Iraq at the end of this year and that Mr. Al Maliki has no wiggle room.
I have fully expected that Mr. Al Sadr would make this statement soon because of the pressure that our government puts on Al Maliki to allow the continued presence of U.S. armed forces after SOFA-IRAQ has expired.
Al Sadr’s demands are analogous to the demands of Washington c. s. that the British armed forces leave the soon to be USA.
By gerard, April 10, 2011 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment
I wonder who taught him the art of the ultimatum? Could it have been that too often extended index finger of Bush and Company, continuing on now with Obama? The Great American Indicator: “OUR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY, YOU BENIGHTED FOREIGNERS AND ASSORTED HUDDLED MASSES! LISTEN UP OR WE’LL DRONE YOU TO DEATH!”
Report thisBy Tesla, April 10, 2011 at 11:53 am Link to this comment
Yes, the U.S. is the great satan just like the
ayatollahs and mullahs say. We go anywhere and
everywhere and take what we want, when we want from
whomever happens to legitimately own it.
We pummeled Iraq with a “no-fly” zone for a decade
after destroying much of their infrastructure and
army.
We then invaded for no apparent reason and finished
the destruction of their society and infrastructure
in the hope we could rebuild it (with help of Iraqi
traitors) into a friendly client state that would let
EXXON, BP, CHEVRON et al rape and pillage the
remaining wealth of the country.
If Sadr wants to declare war on our remaining troops
there, he is pretty much entitled as far as I can
see. And while he is at it maybe he can make the
Green Zone uninhabitable too so he won’t have to
continually repeat this effort.
Regardless of how we view him. He is a freedom
Report thisfighter and patriot to them Iraqi people. Should we
ever shed our hubris and inane exceptionalism we
might actually recapture our humanity.
By DBM, April 10, 2011 at 8:44 am Link to this comment
From berniem:
“... borrow a few more trillion from our good friends in China…”
Just remember that the biggest debt-holders to the U.S. government are not the Chinese. They are Wall Street bankers.
Makes you think ... or it should.
Report thisBy madisolation, April 10, 2011 at 7:10 am Link to this comment
“Al Jazeera correspondent Jane Arraf, reporting from Baghdad, said that this time Sadr had not only warned US troops but also the contractors.”
Good for Sadr. He is a nationalist and wants us to get out. He is right. I wish we had a leader who would rally the poor and stand up to the injustice American politicians and corporations have wrought here in the U.S.
Report thisThe previous commenters obviously are falling for the same old propaganda they hear in the news. Sadr is right: America should get out of Iraq. It is ignorant to compare Sadr to those in the GOP. Sadr is on the side of the poor, the murdered, and the hungry. Educate yourselves.
By Kanamachi, April 10, 2011 at 2:03 am Link to this comment
This is a good sign that Iraq is truly becoming an American style democracy!
Too bad Sadr seems to only have studied the Republican Party and the wacko Tea
Bagger’s approach to democracy. . . i.e., bring nothing to the table, demand your
own way or the highway, scream a lot, and if you don’t get your own way, destroy
the whole system and take as many down with you as you can.
I hope that GWB and his neo-wacko-conservatives are happy now!
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, April 9, 2011 at 10:47 pm Link to this comment
Doesn’t he sound just like Ryan and the rest of the fascisti teabagger in Congress and statehouses across America?
Report thisBy berniem, April 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm Link to this comment
Tut, tut! What’s a good and exceptional American empire to think about this threat from an uppity and ungrateful “haji”? Is there no decency left in the world when the totally benevolent and sole SUPER POWER left on earth “liberates” and democratizes your worthless (but oil rich) society is shown such lack of appreciation? Well, I guess we’ll just have to see about all of this lack of respect and borrow a few more trillion from our good friends in China and either bribe the bastards or maybe just sic Blackwater on them or fly around in one of our gun ships and shoot up a few civilian neighborhoods!
Report thisBy Peter Knopfler, April 9, 2011 at 7:45 pm Link to this comment
Moqtada, sounds like a taco, Well He didn´t miss any
Report thismeals when He went to Iran to get rewired by the
Supreme, delux DUDE. So now Bobby Gates from Hell says
“Well they asked us to stay”, Babies playing army.The
USA economy thrives on Arm Sales Military Weapons, So
this Muslim Endless WAR serves the needs and interests
of the AMERICAN TAXPAYER, so do not pay your taxes this
15th of April, FEARFUL FOOLS PAY TAXES!
By thethirdman, April 9, 2011 at 5:14 pm Link to this comment
Despite our depictions of guys like Sadr back here at home, is there any chance
they are so tuned into history that they just know exactly when to time their
shenanigans as to entangle the over extended octopus and further bankrupt the
empire?
TDoff, I know you are being tongue and cheek, but you hit the nail on the head. Is
Report thisthere any doubt that this will cost us untold billions more? My question is, do they
really know us better than we know ourselves, or is it one man who knows a pay
day when he sees it?
By TDoff, April 9, 2011 at 3:06 pm Link to this comment
Those Iraqi religious folks burn through money almost as fast as our contractors over there, like Halliburton and Xe. Here’s Moqtada again, making the moves to get another billion-dollar bribe from the US not to fight against US. He sure picked a bad time, broke as the US is, they’re going to have to fire a whole bunch more teachers and cops, and let some more thousands of kids go without food and health care in order to give al-Sadr his ‘peace’ money.
Report this‘Course, the GOPers will make up for that by doing some more tax cutting for corporations and the ultra-rich.