#65970 by CJ on 4/23 at 8:34 pm
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Interesting—

“Ah, sorry, PatrickHenry, it was celebs who were served with reality, not the other way around. If there’s one thing Karl knows, it’s reality. He knows very well that Cheryl Crowe is not the “American People,” but a rock star (bad one, BTW), even if she’s also an American person. The right is quite right about “Hollywood”—whether in music or film.”

An otherwise blind ideologue learned the difference between the plural—“people”—and singular—“individual”.

Otherwise, we do not defend even the incivility of taxpayer-salaried—or is Rove not on the public dole?—public pseudo-officials.  What we do know, of course, is that Bush’s meaning of “people” is limited to the “mores and have mores”.

Most directly relevant: It is not possible for a large and amorphous group of many tens of thousands of persons—individuals—to be entirely “liberal”.  (If you insist that such is possible, then what does that tell you about your views?)  The same reasoned sense applies to the extremist-favored-to-be-smeared stereotype of “Hollywood”: there are any number of “conservatives”—some likely even not the fake sort—in Hollywood.

“Guys like Rove don’t play fair, but play to win, and they usually do win. They aren’t sentimental, and don’t harbor thoughts of doing-good. They do what is in the interest of those they represent—their class, which includes paymasters.”

And to hell with whether they conduct their efforts in keeping with law and ethics; all that matters is “winning,” regardless how.  And to hell with consequences, including the destruction of that which is “won”. 

“Irony is that both Crowe and Rove are members of the same elite class (Crowe wealthier than Rove, I suspect), such that their interests don’t differ much. Conservatives pretend to care about ordinary people, while liberals have actually convinced themselves that they care. Neither actually does care, at least not if caring might impact lifestyles to which either has grown accustomed.”

That’s a defense of Rove’s unacdeptable conduct!?

“It’s not who said what at annual love-fest, but that all three were present, a fact that reveals all we need to know. Hollywood does not represent the left in any serious way.”

False, and nonsense: many put their money—and irreplacable time—where their mouths are.

“Until those on the American liberal “left” understand that politics is serious business, so shall that “left” remain left out. Just so long as the American “left” continues to think only in terms of race and gender, hardly ever in terms of class, does culture take the place of politics.”

Only you, and those who agree with you, are genuine.  All else and others are false. 

“Meanwhile, back in France (where Tom Paine went after the American Revolution, which was merely political, and not social), a socialist will face a capitalist in a run-off.”

Tom Paine was a propagandist with pretensions to writing great literature.  And he was only useful to the Founders during the period leading into the “revolution” when their first concern was stirring up support for their ““revolution”.  When done with that phase, they were done with him.

“. . . .  Contra Crowe and David, the most serious problem confronting humanity is not global warming, but (still) poverty, as always. Solve the latter problem, solve the former.”

Reductive distortion.  BOTH need to be dealt with—along with others intertwined therewith—simultaneously.  That not being possiblle, in some reasoned order of priority.  If we are to engage in the long-shot of resolving/eliminating poverty, we must first survive in order to do so.

As long as Rove serves in the government then “yes” he works for Crowe and you and me.  If he gets rude because you remind him of it then writethe elected moron who appointed him with your grievence.

As far as Sheryl Crow’s music, I think it supurb and she is a very fine looking woman, but that is just my opinion.  I think her campaign (for which I’m sure she doesn’t get paid) has merit. and fault Rove for dismissing her position “out of hand” and rudely by the way.

Rove doesn’t have a conscience for what he does and that disturbs me. 

The truth always comes out in the wash.

UNDER OATH or UNDER ARREST.

He was served with reality.

Dear Sheryl and Laurie,

Why should you waste your time to clash with a half-man half-beast like this damned monster ? You better use your time to play with you puppies. Your dog is still better than Rove ! With an animal like him, just show your shoes’soles for him to lick !

I don’t know who I despise more, him or his disgusting boss.

In either case, they have no soul.