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Posted on Apr 23, 2007
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Laurie David (left) and Sheryl Crow speak up about global warming at George Washington University on Saturday, mere hours before tangling with Karl Rove at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner.

Karl Rove clashed with singer Sheryl Crow and eco-activist Laurie David at Saturday’s White House Correspondents’ Association dinner, one of the last stops on David and Crow’s nationwide tour to raise awareness about global warming.  David later said Rove threw a “tantrum”; Rove insisted he was intentionally insulted by the celebrity duo.

New York Daily News:

David, the wife of churlish “Curb Your Enthusiasm” star Larry David, said she and her rock-star pal had hoped Rove might take a “fresh look at the science of global warming” when they met him at the black-tie gala in D.C. But, according to David, Rove “immediately got combative. . . . Throwing a tantrum, Mr. Rove launched into a series of illogical arguments.”

As he headed toward his table, “Sheryl reached out to touch his arm,” David writes on TheHuffingtonPost.com. “Karl swung around and spat, ‘Don’t touch me.’ How hardened and removed from reality must a person be to refuse to be touched by Sheryl Crow?

“Unfazed, Sheryl abruptly responded, ‘You can’t speak to us like that, you work for us.’ Karl then quipped, ‘I don’t work for you, I work for the American people.’ . . . Sheryl promptly reminded him, ‘We are the American people.’ ”

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By JNagarya, April 24, 2007 at 4:32 pm Link to this comment

#65970 by CJ on 4/23 at 8:34 pm
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Interesting—

“Ah, sorry, PatrickHenry, it was celebs who were served with reality, not the other way around. If there’s one thing Karl knows, it’s reality. He knows very well that Cheryl Crowe is not the “American People,” but a rock star (bad one, BTW), even if she’s also an American person. The right is quite right about “Hollywood”—whether in music or film.”

An otherwise blind ideologue learned the difference between the plural—“people”—and singular—“individual”.

Otherwise, we do not defend even the incivility of taxpayer-salaried—or is Rove not on the public dole?—public pseudo-officials.  What we do know, of course, is that Bush’s meaning of “people” is limited to the “mores and have mores”.

Most directly relevant: It is not possible for a large and amorphous group of many tens of thousands of persons—individuals—to be entirely “liberal”.  (If you insist that such is possible, then what does that tell you about your views?)  The same reasoned sense applies to the extremist-favored-to-be-smeared stereotype of “Hollywood”: there are any number of “conservatives”—some likely even not the fake sort—in Hollywood.

“Guys like Rove don’t play fair, but play to win, and they usually do win. They aren’t sentimental, and don’t harbor thoughts of doing-good. They do what is in the interest of those they represent—their class, which includes paymasters.”

And to hell with whether they conduct their efforts in keeping with law and ethics; all that matters is “winning,” regardless how.  And to hell with consequences, including the destruction of that which is “won”. 

“Irony is that both Crowe and Rove are members of the same elite class (Crowe wealthier than Rove, I suspect), such that their interests don’t differ much. Conservatives pretend to care about ordinary people, while liberals have actually convinced themselves that they care. Neither actually does care, at least not if caring might impact lifestyles to which either has grown accustomed.”

That’s a defense of Rove’s unacdeptable conduct!?

“It’s not who said what at annual love-fest, but that all three were present, a fact that reveals all we need to know. Hollywood does not represent the left in any serious way.”

False, and nonsense: many put their money—and irreplacable time—where their mouths are.

“Until those on the American liberal “left” understand that politics is serious business, so shall that “left” remain left out. Just so long as the American “left” continues to think only in terms of race and gender, hardly ever in terms of class, does culture take the place of politics.”

Only you, and those who agree with you, are genuine.  All else and others are false. 

“Meanwhile, back in France (where Tom Paine went after the American Revolution, which was merely political, and not social), a socialist will face a capitalist in a run-off.”

Tom Paine was a propagandist with pretensions to writing great literature.  And he was only useful to the Founders during the period leading into the “revolution” when their first concern was stirring up support for their ““revolution”.  When done with that phase, they were done with him.

“. . . .  Contra Crowe and David, the most serious problem confronting humanity is not global warming, but (still) poverty, as always. Solve the latter problem, solve the former.”

Reductive distortion.  BOTH need to be dealt with—along with others intertwined therewith—simultaneously.  That not being possiblle, in some reasoned order of priority.  If we are to engage in the long-shot of resolving/eliminating poverty, we must first survive in order to do so.

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By PatrickHenry, April 24, 2007 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment

As long as Rove serves in the government then “yes” he works for Crowe and you and me.  If he gets rude because you remind him of it then writethe elected moron who appointed him with your grievence.

As far as Sheryl Crow’s music, I think it supurb and she is a very fine looking woman, but that is just my opinion.  I think her campaign (for which I’m sure she doesn’t get paid) has merit. and fault Rove for dismissing her position “out of hand” and rudely by the way.

Rove doesn’t have a conscience for what he does and that disturbs me. 

The truth always comes out in the wash.

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By Jim Treacher, April 24, 2007 at 2:47 pm Link to this comment
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Yo, MC Rove Raps! (Again)

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By JNagarya, April 23, 2007 at 10:02 pm Link to this comment

UNDER OATH or UNDER ARREST.

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By CJ, April 23, 2007 at 9:34 pm Link to this comment
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Ah, sorry, PatrickHenry, it was celebs who were served with reality, not the other way around. If there’s one thing Karl knows, it’s reality. He knows very well that Cheryl Crowe is not the “American People,” but a rock star (bad one, BTW), even if she’s also an American person. The right is quite right about “Hollywood”—whether in music or film.

Guys like Rove don’t play fair, but play to win, and they usually do win. They aren’t sentimental, and don’t harbor thoughts of doing-good. They do what is in the interest of those they represent—their class, which includes paymasters.

Irony is that both Crowe and Rove are members of the same elite class (Crowe wealthier than Rove, I suspect), such that their interests don’t differ much. Conservatives pretend to care about ordinary people, while liberals have actually convinced themselves that they care. Neither actually does care, at least not if caring might impact lifestyles to which either has grown accustomed.

It’s not who said what at annual love-fest, but that all three were present, a fact that reveals all we need to know. Hollywood does not represent the left in any serious way. Until those on the American liberal “left” understand that politics is serious business, so shall that “left” remain left out. Just so long as the American “left” continues to think only in terms of race and gender, hardly ever in terms of class, does culture take the place of politics.

Meanwhile, back in France (where Tom Paine went after the American Revolution, which was merely political, and not social), a socialist will face a capitalist in a run-off. Now, THAT will involve a choice—between a democrat and a plutocrat (we hope?). Should the socialist (democrat) win, we’ll probably declare war on France, while our “left” debates the right as to whether or not Americans should hold to one square, pending destruction of rain forest, but also while not discussing ever increasing gap between haves and have-nots. Contra Crowe and David, the most serious problem confronting humanity is not global warming, but (still) poverty, as always. Solve the latter problem, solve the former.

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By DennisD, April 23, 2007 at 7:43 pm Link to this comment
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What the hell was Karl doing out of the bunker? Everyone knows he can’t function unless he’s at a GOP fund raiser. I hope FEMA is standing by for the inevitable fallout.

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By Richard, April 23, 2007 at 7:11 pm Link to this comment
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Who do these women think they are?  The White House Correspondents’ Association dinner is not the forum for verbal assaults on their perceived enemy.
 
He doesn’t work for them, he works for the American people - over 300,000,000 of them. 

As for “touching” his arm, some people don’t want to be touched.  Especially when they perceive the touch as an attempt to control. 

As for “throwing a tantrum”, what about a recount of what he said that was so illogical…or is that playing unfairly.  Some people think that it is unfair for people to use facts.  Expressing feelings to them are considered to be facts.

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By James Yell, April 23, 2007 at 4:35 pm Link to this comment
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I thought they handled themselves well and were very on target. Yes, Mr. Rove you do work for the American People and like all boss/worker relationships, your bosses don’t have to agree with you, but you would be advised to be civil to your bosses.

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By PatrickHenry, April 23, 2007 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment

He was served with reality.

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By M Currey, April 23, 2007 at 1:52 pm Link to this comment
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This just shows how men have comtempt for women, I called up an agency about my prescription drug coverage and immediately I had to give up some information, I explained it was probably on my monthly statement, he brushed me off and referred me to another office, I then called back and got a person who was glad to help me, that person certainly was not a man, I think men just have less patience at certain jobs and talking to people is just one of those performances.

To get to Carl Rove, this administration is just so out of it that I guess if you are not a corporate CEO than you are not one of the American People, or one of the people that they only talk to. 

After when you are King George and Carl is you advisor an advisor who has one concern how to keep the Republicians in power, and these people only want to give power of anything to the well connected.

Listen about how he talks about so called tax cuts, these tax cuts mainly help 1 percent of the population, and the pepople in that tax bracket need help the least, but Bush does not talk about percentages only in general terms, they are really stuck on if you disagree with me, you are helping the enemy, that might have been true before the so called surge, but when is this surge going to bear fruit?

M. Currey

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By QuyTran, April 23, 2007 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment

Dear Sheryl and Laurie,

Why should you waste your time to clash with a half-man half-beast like this damned monster ? You better use your time to play with you puppies. Your dog is still better than Rove ! With an animal like him, just show your shoes’soles for him to lick !

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By 911truthdotorg, April 23, 2007 at 1:21 pm Link to this comment

I don’t know who I despise more, him or his disgusting boss.

In either case, they have no soul.

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