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Ron Paul Considers Another Run for the White House

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Posted on Dec 13, 2010
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The iconoclastic congressman is riding high in the wake of tea party hype and he tells The New York Times his chances of running again for the presidency are “at least 50-50.”

It will be interesting to see how Republicans handle their star libertarian, who is not one to shush and toe the party line, as he takes his place in the sun.

The New York Times via Political Wire:

On Web sites for Ron Paul fans, there are urgent pleas for a father-son (or son-father) “Paul/Paul 2012” ticket. But in an interview, the senior Mr. Paul seemed taken by surprise by the suggestion of teaming up. While he is bursting-proud of his son, he is not necessarily ready to yield the spotlight: He is pondering another presidential run on his own.

“I’d say it’s at least 50-50 that I’ll run again,” he said, adding that he would look at where the economy is. (Aides add that it would depend a lot on what his wife, Carol, says.)

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By Fat Freddy, December 15, 2010 at 9:57 am Link to this comment

berniem

There is a “tongue-in-cheek” term I’ve come across. It’s called “anarcho-fascism”.

Anarcho-fascism is the theory that an anarchic society, having no infringements, can and should be brought about through a harsh authoritarian state. It is believed that since the people don’t come to this freedom on their own, it must be imposed on them.

Take it for what it’s worth.

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By berniem, December 14, 2010 at 8:02 pm Link to this comment

Can an anarchist be head of a fascist state?

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By freelyb, December 14, 2010 at 11:11 am Link to this comment

I was a lukewarm fan of Ron Paul until I learned more about his son…

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By SoTexGuy, December 14, 2010 at 9:28 am Link to this comment

Ron Paul gets my attention when he speaks about the Constitution, ending useless war and foreign entanglements and limiting the nanny-state government.

When he goes off on domestic moral issues and plugs for the people selling ‘gold security’ it’s kind of scary..

But heck, didn’t our torch-bearer Obama just chastise us yet again over the need for concession and compromise? I’m beginning to see his point..

Paul-Kucinich in 2012!!

Adios!

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By Fat Freddy, December 14, 2010 at 9:06 am Link to this comment

JohnMcD

Paul and Kucinich certainly are the most principled members of Congress. I don’t agree with Kucinch’s politics, but I respect his opinions and motives. If Paul or Kucinich were elected, the wars in the Middle East would end.

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By Fat Freddy, December 14, 2010 at 8:43 am Link to this comment

mrfreeze

Perhaps you can explain to me how our current, civil judicial system is preferable to private, binding arbitration? You trust a judge, who was appointed by corrupt politicians over a private arbiter with a long reputation of fairness? Just look at what our judicial system did for Exxon/Mobile with the Valdez lawsuit. You don’t get to pick the Judge, but with binding arbitration, you get to agree on the arbiter. Good luck with that.

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By Fat Freddy, December 14, 2010 at 8:33 am Link to this comment

Big B

I can tell by your comment that you put a lot of thought and research into your opinion. So, you just keep defending the system that creates, and maintains the wealthy. Maybe the Democrats will save you. Maybe we could have a Digger society, where people can just take what they want, and not be held responsible for their actions. That worked out real well in SF, didn’t it? You “Hippies” have become the Authoritarians that you despised in the 60s. You have become “The Man”. The real freedom loving hippies of the 60s became anarchists and mutualists, not statist Socialists. Hey, can I buy a Happy Meal in SF? Authoritarians are evil.

The many must make the evil few play nice.

So, the corrupt government is going to make the “evil” play nice? How? The government is what enables them, in the first place. Duh. Talk about a “circle-jerk”.

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By Fat Freddy, December 14, 2010 at 8:11 am Link to this comment

entropy2

That’s why I said most Americans are not ready for someone like Ron Paul. Even many of the self-proclaimed libertarians are not willing to sacrifice their Nationalism. Just look at the response RP got when he suggested that we pull out completely from the Middle East. When you are born and raised to rely on the government, it is difficult to imagine a life without the government to “protect you”. Most Americans are like scared little children that cling to their Mommies in a crowded shopping mall, and kick and scream about what they want, and cry when they can’t get it. I think the comment above yours, points that out very clearly.

Why do you need a “practical plan”? Why do you need any plan at all? Planning is what gives the elite their power. Perhaps the best plan, is no plan, and let the chips fall where they may. Did the Founders have a plan for their new government when they revolted against the British? No. They just knew that tyranny was wrong, and they revolted on the principles of freedom and democracy. I think they made out pretty well.

RP is certainly not the “perfect” libertarian, or anarchist, but he understands the economics. That’s more than any other politician out there.


(Why does my avatar keep reverting back to the old one? I tried to change it 3 times.)

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By JohnMcD, December 14, 2010 at 4:47 am Link to this comment

Having Ron Paul at the Republican primary debates adds
more diversification to our politics than any number of
etablishment Dems & Reps ever could.  We vote for
Democrats and get neo-cons - then the left stays home
and get a bunch of neo-cons again.  At least Ron Paul,
Kucinich, and a few honest others will call it what it
is.

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By mrfreeze, December 14, 2010 at 1:07 am Link to this comment

Hey Big B - Thanks so much for putting Fat Freddie and his libertarian friends in perspective.

Right now I’m having some financial disputes with a couple of “libertarians” who, up until they owed me money, were all about the “free market” and small government and no regulations and on and on and on…............ Now that their little libertarian utopia has come crashing down (because I’m suing them), they understand why it is that people like me don’t mind paying my taxes to fund a judicial system that allows me to protect myself against thieves.

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By SteveL, December 14, 2010 at 12:47 am Link to this comment

The guy is anti war that good enough for me.

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By Big B, December 13, 2010 at 11:23 pm Link to this comment

Fat Freddy and the rest of the silent libertarian minority will circle jerk their Ron Paul statue once again, in the vain hope that economic anarchy will lead us to a magical world where everyone is equal, and all people will stop wanting material things when they accumulate enough for themselves, and they will always play fair in the free marketplace with no central government to stand in their way. They won’t screw other people over for a buck, they will give to charity, take care of the sick, and never piss on the little guy.

And you guys think that we hippies are delusional.

The many must make the evil few play nice.

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By entropy2, December 13, 2010 at 10:50 pm Link to this comment

@Fat Freddy—I know that RP appears to be a step in the direction of an Agorist ideal (as opposed to the Dem v. Repub bigtime wrestling show). But I am not sure that American libertarians would be as willing or able to dismantle the privileges that state-crony-capitalism gives to corporate elite (eg. IP monopoly, police-state protection of ill-gotten property, etc.) as they are to roll back the protections, few and flimsy though they may be, that the state uses to pacify the rest of us. All traditional leftists can see coming out of mainstream political libertarianism in particular and market-anarchism in general, is free reign for the big boys to totally grind us all into the dirt. However, that doesn’t mean that all leftists are automatically dyed-in-the-wool statists. I’ll tell you what…the day RP or any other libertarian articulates a practical plan for leveling the playing field for the average person against the corporate behemoths, rather than simply whining about regulations and taxes, he may start getting some traction.

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By Queenie, December 13, 2010 at 10:36 pm Link to this comment

The effing Titanic is sinking and this weirdo wants to be the captain. Smart.

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By Fat Freddy, December 13, 2010 at 9:29 pm Link to this comment

bg2

You do not understand Austrian economics, or anarcho-capitalism. You have the typical statist view on things - control. I suggest you actually do a little research before making an uninformed comment. You’ve been watching too much of the MSM. Your comments make “good” 5 second sound bites, not much substance.

I agree, however, that he would be a “disaster” because there are too many statists who rely on the government, and refuse to take responsibility for their actions (and inaction), and I’m not talking about the poor. The rich rely on government a Hell of a lot more than the poor.

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By Fat Freddy, December 13, 2010 at 8:25 pm Link to this comment

He certainly shook things up at the Republican debates in 2008. America learned what the term “blowback” means. He is certainly, one of the most principled members of Congress. RP is what he is, and doesn’t try to cover it up, or candy coat it. He is anti-war, non-interventionist, and real free market Capitalist, based on sound money, and honest banking, not like the Kochtopus libertarians. Unfortunately, most Americans don’t want the truth, and aren’t willing to do what is necessary to end foreign entanglements, and build an economy where all can prosper, and all are held responsible. America isn’t ready for Ron Paul, because America isn’t ready for real freedom.

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By bg2, December 13, 2010 at 8:08 pm Link to this comment
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He wants to privatize everything, except maybe the military and the police.  He wants to get rid of social security, medicare, labor laws, everything.  He wants to go back to mid-nineteenth century America.  He would be a complete disaster. If think it sucks now, then wait to see what happens if Ron Paul gets in. And I hate Obama!

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By PatrickHenry, December 13, 2010 at 7:56 pm Link to this comment

He’s no Neocon.

A real Republican in the Barry Goldwater style.

I’ll bet he does better than he did before.

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By mrfreeze, December 13, 2010 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment

Just another “all hat no cattle” Texan. Haven’t we had enough of Texas and the rest of the southern United States regarding presidents? Johnson? Carter? Clinton? GWB (a fake Texan which makes him an uber-fake).

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By Gmonst, December 13, 2010 at 7:42 pm Link to this comment

I hope he does run.  He’s not completely my cup of tea, although I do have a lot of common agreement with him, but he is definitely a nice change from the standard Republican.  I think his presence can only be a positive.

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By omop, December 13, 2010 at 7:38 pm Link to this comment

Tea party or no tea party. As a Republican one must admit that he stands taller
than the Gingrich’s; the Huckabee’s; the Romney’s not to mention the cheer
leader lady from Alaska.

He may surpirse all americans.

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