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A map showing some of the largest “sanctuary cities.”

As the U.S. Justice Department preps for a federal case against Arizona’s controversial SB 1070 anti-immigrant law, many supporters of the bill are accusing the federal government of intentionally overlooking the more than 40 “sanctuary cities” that have popped up around the country.

“Sanctuary cities”—locales including Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., and New York City that do not deport undocumented immigrants—explicitly refuse to inquire about one’s immigration status or report immigration issues to federal authorities. —JCL

Los Angeles Times:

Critics of the Obama administration’s decision to sue Arizona over its new law to control illegal immigration accuse the government of overlooking a more obvious target: the dozens of cities that called themselves a “sanctuary” for immigrants.

“Everyone has noticed the hypocrisy of the government going after Arizona and ignoring the sanctuary cities,” said Bob Dane, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform. “They have it exactly backwards. Arizona is applying federal law, and sanctuary cities are violating it.”

Justice Department lawyers on Thursday asked a judge in Phoenix to block Arizona’s law from going into effect on the grounds it interferes with federal immigration policy. The law is due to take effect in the coming week.

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By Auto Parts, April 26, 2012 at 2:42 am Link to this comment

There will never be a law passed that satisfy every single person. That being said, the law has its way of ensuring fairness, so taking the case to court might just be the right thing to do in this situation.

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By MarthaA, July 30, 2010 at 11:21 pm Link to this comment

ofersince72, July 29 at 2:11 am,

So you are a 40 year Democrat that knows all about Rush Limbaugh.

As I said previously, Rush Limbaugh is a Conservative REPUBLICAN toady mercenary media PAID EMPLOYEE of Rupert Murdoch’s FOX News Network spreading sophism and propaganda for his leader, Rupert Murdoch, as is Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly and all the Conservative REPUBLICAN talking heads on the FOX News Network.

If you are waiting for the Conservative Right-Wing to not support on going war,  you will be waiting forever, because that is one of the Conservative main stays, that and outsourcing populace jobs to make labor cheaper and profits higher for the private capitalists at the top of the pyramid Ponzi Scheme.

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By rico, suave, July 29, 2010 at 10:59 am Link to this comment

ofer:

That’s rich. When I make a statement on truthdig, most respond with, “Where’s your source?”

So I give you a source and you say I’m wasting my time.

Believe me ofer, changing your mind about anything is the last thing I expect to do.

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By ofersince72, July 29, 2010 at 5:20 am Link to this comment

Was it that big a deal Rico, for you to search all
night for nonsense???????????????????

  I thought this was supposed to be about Sanctuary,

  remember,,,,so I told you all about it,  everything
 
  you need to know /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

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By ofersince72, July 28, 2010 at 10:11 pm Link to this comment

Rush Limbaugh grew up in this congressional district
in which I live, his brother is a lawyer in this
congressional district in which i live, His uncle is
a federal judge in this district in which i live…
I know a little about Rush.

As a forty year registered Democrat,  I will continue
to run them down until they don’t support war, until
they stop torture and all of the other policy that they
took BushII Admin to task for, until they stand for
civil liberties and civil rights and stop their end
of the institutional racism, until they repeal the
stupid NAFTA trade agreements that basicly made Mexico
a slave state and closed the manufacturing jobs here
in the states, until companies like BP aren’t bossing
our government around, until they recognize that our
soils are dead and that our soils are a whole lot more
important than a cell phone, until they decide that our
drinking water is very vital not only to us but to our
posterity, that no matter that Oil and Vehicles have
become a socio-economic-system, clean air is much more
important to life then this economic system for us
and our posterity, until they bring every last bit of
military equipment back home and stop killing very nice
people all over the world, until they come up with an
employment plan that will replace all the jobs that will
be lost by downsizing the MIC….and on an on and on

I will continue to try to get the Party that I have
been associated with for forty years to act like decent
human beings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By MarthaA, July 28, 2010 at 9:37 pm Link to this comment

ofersince72, July 29 at 1:22 am,

You keep running Democrats down, do you think Rush Limbaugh is a Democrat? 

Rush Limbaugh is a Conservative REPUBLICAN toady mercenary media worker for Rupert Murdoch’s FOX News Network spreading sophism and propaganda for his leader, Rupert Murdoch, as is Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly and all the Conservative REPUBLICAN talking heads on the FOX News Network.

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By ofersince72, July 28, 2010 at 9:22 pm Link to this comment

America got rid of legalized slavery at the
end of the U.S. Civil War

  Then made indentured servents out of blacks in the
South and held them in check with the Jim Crow laws
In the North they hid them away in gettos.

  In the sixties, blacks won a few rights, that helped
them some., bad for corps, blacks now were demanding
equal pay.
  So the corps. needed another system of slavery,
they transferred manufacturing jobs to slave labor
overseas,  and made conditions so bad in Mexico , that
Mexicans were forced to migrate to the U.S. and work
slave labor so they could eat.
Then,  Dems and Pubs needed talking and debating points
to make the American public believe that there was a
difference between the two parties, so the Mexicans that
had migrated here so they could eat, became that target,
recognizing this exploitation, some mayors felt pity,
and others wanted to keep the slave labor,  so they
said , “slave Mexicans,  stay here, and we will throw
some crumbs at you.”  This really helped the Dem and Pub
debate out, now they had this sanctuary thing to yell
at each about, and they were happy. A wink and a nod.
Now the Democrat lawmakers gave the “feel good” liberals
a reason to support their other murderous policies, for
the “feel goods” came out and said, hey Mexican migrates
I am your friend and believe in the crumbs you get and
will fight for your right to get these slave crumbs,
because “I am a “feel gooder” and it gives me cause to
to support the status quo Democrat Party that really
doesn’t give a rat’s ass about you”.  The Mexican migrants
not fooled, for they are well aware of American politics,
say with their own wink and a nod “Thank You Gringo, you
are to kind”.
  Meanwhile, there are fools that actually believe that
these Mexican migrants actually get free health care and
other benies from the American Public, why do they believe
this, because Rush Limbaugh told them so, and even Glen
Beck and that other sicky that was on CNN. The other MSMs
don’t take Rush or the rest to task for telling this lie
so many believe it.  Now ,  the repubs, who really have
no intention of stopping the slave labor,  have great
talking points forl their constituents…“We are going
to save your apple picking jobs, and your tomato picking
jobs, and your hedge trimming jobs, and didn’t you know
that ALL OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY THAT EVERYONE
BELIEVES US LAWMAKERS ROBBED is really being spent on
the Mexican migrant slave laborers.”  “We will round every
one of these Mexican slaves up for you, and there will
be jobs galore , all over the nation, making $50 an hour
and social security will again be safe.”
  So that gets them their votes , and the “feel gooders”
feel good about their vote for the murderous Democrat
Party, and everyone is happy, happy.

and there it is RICO SUAVE…IN A NUT SHELL,
are you of Cuban decent?????

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By ofersince72, July 28, 2010 at 8:50 pm Link to this comment

I will take your word on that Rico, however

that isn’t why the interstates were built..

Sanctuary Cities,,,,,,,,,,they ought to give everyone
of the mayors a Nobel Peace Prize !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By MarthaA, July 28, 2010 at 8:27 pm Link to this comment

rico, suave, July 28 at 11:59 pm,

If you believe that site, good for you.  How come you didn’t post it?

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By rico, suave, July 28, 2010 at 8:01 pm Link to this comment

Holy shit! We’re arguing about nukes and interstates and this article is about sanctuary cities and illegal immigrants!

Talk about getting off track!

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By rico, suave, July 28, 2010 at 7:59 pm Link to this comment

MarthaA and ofersince:

If you don’t stop fighting, you’re going to bed without dessert! Now knock it off this minute.

I am confident you trust our government implicitly, otherwise you wouldn’t be progressives. So, I want you to Google “Eisenhower Interstate Highway System- Interstate Myths” You will find a site run by the Federal Highway Administration, DOT, US gov’t.

Read it and get back to me.

And ofer, yes, nukes were hauled on trucks back then.

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By ofersince72, July 28, 2010 at 7:51 pm Link to this comment

Not in the fifties….......sweetie

Every Co I worked for the last thirty years, contracted
to the Fed Gov….....GET IT??

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By MarthaA, July 28, 2010 at 7:37 pm Link to this comment

ofersince72, July 28 at 11:04 pm,

Apparently you have never seen a military movement over the road; the Interstate Highway System was made for the expeditious movement of military equipment over the road and there is an awful lot of military equipment other that nuclear devices, but they do move those over the road as well.

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By ofersince72, July 28, 2010 at 7:04 pm Link to this comment

As crude as the nuclear devices were in the forties
and fifties, do really believe the military was going
to haul them around on trucks back then?????????????????

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By ofersince72, July 28, 2010 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment

MarthaA,  you very much are once again putting words
in my mouth that I did not say dearie,

  I said that Congress and the Ike admin were lobbied
to get the interstate, and I never said the interstates
were created for the citizens,  find me where I said that.

  They were designed and built to promote the oil co. and
tractor and trailor delivery system.
We studied this in Jr. High School ....................

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By MarthaA, July 28, 2010 at 6:27 pm Link to this comment

ofersince72, July 28 at 9:04 pm,

The Highway System was Eisenhower’s baby and if you think something else, then go right ahead and think whatever you want.  Apparently you believe it was for the citizens, and if you do, go right ahead, there is no harm in your thinking the highway system was made for the citizens.

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By ofersince72, July 28, 2010 at 5:11 pm Link to this comment

The same damn lobby that got rid of the electric
trolly cars in the cities.

which i can still remember, even though I was only
three years old the last time that I traveled on one of
them.

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By ofersince72, July 28, 2010 at 5:04 pm Link to this comment

MarthaA you are wrong, wrong again…....

The interstate system was lobbied by guess who????

That is just why you rarely see me put internet feeds
in my posts…..You can find an internet feed to
support any position on any debate of any issue that
you care.
MarthaA , your continued support of our gov is becoming
questionable.

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By MarthaA, July 28, 2010 at 4:46 pm Link to this comment

rico, suave, July 28 at 7:29 pm,

The primary reason for the Interstate Highway System, originated by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, is for National Defense:  http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/ndhs.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System

Citizens can use the National Defense Highway System, but in time of war, the military will have charge of the highway system, not civilians.  The Conservative EXTREMISTS’ endless wars are overseas, but if war was directly on the United States Proper, these highway systems would be used by the military.

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By rico, suave, July 28, 2010 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment

ofer:

Ok, I lied. From the DOT website about the Interstates:

“The primary justifications for the Interstate System were civilian in nature.  In the midst of the Cold War, the Department of Defense supported the Interstate System and Congress added the words “and Defense” to its official name in 1956 (“National System of Interstate and Defense Highways”).  However, the program was so popular for its civilian benefits that the legislation would have passed even if defense had not been a factor.”

Sorry.

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By ofersince72, July 28, 2010 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment

Rico,

That is the problem,  we don’t need to move that fast.

Society needs to ssslllloooowwwww down.

Nothing at all against you personally,  but I wish
they would shut down every damn airport in the country!!!

But thats just me,  and Americans don’t lide my ideas,
they interfere with the consumer junk, buy this and buy
that mentality that has mesmorized now, not only this
nation, but most the world.
However, Rico,  I believe it will be within our lifetime
that man starts to worship the things that are really
important, food, air and water….only because of scarcity
and necessity.
We think little to nothing about what it takes to sustain
life, but all to much about blackberry phones, instant
gratification, instant communications (but we talk of nada
,and all the nonsense that goes along with it.

P.S. where did you get that silly notion about the
interstates???????????????????????????????????????????

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By MarthaA, July 28, 2010 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment

rico, suave, July 28 at 12:10 am,

So, what is your so called “basic Aristotelian logic” for use and abuse of the Mexicans without attendant rights and privileges for benefit received.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/28/AR2010072801794.html?wpisrc=nl_pmpolitics

If the Mexicans are not wanted, don’t exploit them as laborers.  When the Mexicans are exploited for cheap labor, be prepared to negotiate attendant rights and privileges.

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By rico, suave, July 27, 2010 at 8:10 pm Link to this comment

Martha:

WHAT?

Take a course in basic Aristotelian logic and get back to us.

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By MarthaA, July 27, 2010 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment

Since there are Sanctuary Cities for cheap Mexican labor, so that the wealthy and business can exploit the Mexicans for cheap labor; then Arizona is out of order, especially since Phoenix is a Sanctuary City.

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By Leefeller, July 27, 2010 at 8:13 am Link to this comment

As the economy has worsened people find they have to work more hours to pay their bills, when I say people I am talking about the common person, skilled, unskilled or even so called professionals.

As the new world order decided on who will work and what they will pay in places like China or Mexico or any other country were people work for much less, possibly with no environmental contingencies and little safety laws, profits should must do better, and profits is what it is about.

So we had a few deaths on a BP platform with a environmental disaster, we saw the responsibly rested on the back of whom? Not the want my life back CEO?

I can see CEO’s going up to the shareholders and saying I will work for less than that guy! That is the difference between skilled and unskilled labor?  A fair wage for a job done poorly?

Inequities thrive because they can!

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By rico, suave, July 27, 2010 at 6:32 am Link to this comment

ofer:

First, we’re talking about immigrants and sanctuary cities, not the vast oil/auto industry conspiracy to destroy the planet!

I don’t believe “Climate Change” (your caps) to be a hoax: I believe the part humans play in it is debatable, and our efforts to put the earth’s thermostat to a setting of our choosing is vain, hubristic and arrogant.

If you come up with a fast rail system to get me from New York to LA in five hours, or to London in six hours for less than the cost of flying, I’ll gladly take the train.

And, by the way, the Eisenhower Interstate System was designed primarily with the Defense Department in mind. They needed fast, open highways to move their shit around in the event of an attack or for disaster relief.

Back to the thread.

$5 an hour was “Leefeller’s” number!!! All I’m doing is making an argument about how wages are set. I don’t “know” how much a fruitpicker’s labor is worth any more than you do. Only the market does.

If a fruitpicker thinks he’s worth $20 an hour, let him ask for it. If I’m a fruit farmer and I can get enough for my fruit at the co-op to pay him $20 an hour, I will pay him $20 an hour.

Obviously those immigrants are willing to work for less than $20, that’s why they’re here, and that’s what they get. If anyone is “forcing” them to take $5 an hour, it’s Mexico, where they can’t get close to that. Otherwise they’d stay there and not come here. Tell Mexico to start paying their people a decent wage and this problem will ease.

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By ofersince72, July 27, 2010 at 6:02 am Link to this comment

It is well documented that the Interstate system of
roads developed in the fifties was to make way
for a system of delivery using tractor and trailer rigs,
that was lobbyied for by both the oil industry and
motor industry, just as the removal of the electric
trolly systems were replaced by oil consuming buses
because of lobbying by the oil and motor industries.

  Rico, I understand that you believe that Climate
Change to be a hoax,  could this be because you pilot
a huge tube full of fuel around for a living, and do
you believe that the commercial air industry should be
replaced by a fast rail system?

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By ofersince72, July 27, 2010 at 5:49 am Link to this comment

You don’t believe a fruit picker to be worth more
than that,  or that is just a random figure is what
I was wondering?

  To me, those supplying our food are deserving of
a liveing wage…
  If you are worth $350 , certainly they are worth
$20 an hour.

  Are you of Cuban decent?

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By rico, suave, July 27, 2010 at 5:13 am Link to this comment

ofer:

We’re talking about unskilled labor after all, aren’t we? Besides “Leefeller” set the number for the argument, not me.

If you want, substitute “commercial airline pilot” for “fruit picker”. Then substitute $350 an hour for $5 an hour. The point still remains the same.

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By ofersince72, July 27, 2010 at 4:59 am Link to this comment

And of course, ex-rfidler, one wouldn’t expect you

to use anything but poverty wages for your stupid

free market analogy.

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By ofersince72, July 27, 2010 at 4:50 am Link to this comment

Hey ex-rfidler,  Are you of Cuban decent?

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By rico, suave, July 27, 2010 at 4:43 am Link to this comment

Leefeller:

You’ve accurately described how compensation for labor is set in a FREE market. All the second, and third, etc, guy has to do is say is, “Well, I’ll take five dollars too.” The boss must decide if it’s worth it. That’s free exchange.

Will you be the union boss who demands for the potential worker, “Five dollars or nothing!” and risk the boss’s reply, “OK, nothing. I can’t afford five”? What if the worker said, “Wait, I’ll do it for $4.75!” Will you, the union boss, say, “Shut up, buddy. You’re worth five or nothing. I know what’s best for you”? That’s coercive and distorting.


(Richard Roe in his post below said, “the citizens of Arizona have just destroyed the very foundation which their economy relies on.” THAT foundation.)

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By Leefeller, July 26, 2010 at 8:29 pm Link to this comment

As the economy obtains right to work status, people will do what they did during the depression.  “Hey, what are you paying that guy over there?  5 dollars and hour”  ” Okay I will work for 4 dollars and hour” Cheap labor means hopefully higher profits!

An other way it is done the boss has someone standing by the office and points to one of his workers and says “That guy will work for 4 dollars an hour.”  So you say,  “Okay I will work for 4 dollars an hour.”

Cheap labor a foundation says who? An article about working more for less! FYI Link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gerald-mcentee/robert-reichs-endorsement_b_97450.html

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By rico, suave, July 26, 2010 at 2:26 pm Link to this comment

Roe:

The foundation the economy relies on is cheap labor, NOT brown bodies.

If a farmer advertises for pickers, I’d like to think, with 10% unemployment, someone will step up. You’re right, prices will go up, but so will the quality of life for everyone.

What is ignorant and bigoted about Arizonans demanding citizenship of its citizens? If you moved to France, would you call the French ignorant and bigoted for expecting you to become a citizen before they offered you the full benefits of citizenship?

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By richard roe, July 26, 2010 at 10:58 am Link to this comment
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What will the uppercrust caucasians of Arizona do now? 

How will they possibly survive with no brown people there to scrub their toilets, take out their trash, tend their gardens, wash their dishes and babysit their kids?

I can’t wait to read in a few months of the increased cost of food or food shortages while fruit rots un-picked on the vine, landlords go bankrupt, restaurants shutter their doors, etc., etc. 

The ignorance and bigotry is truly astounding as the citizens of Arizona have just destroyed the very foundation which their economy relies on.

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By rico, suave, July 26, 2010 at 5:19 am Link to this comment

I liked the previous headline you used much better- “Right Hates On Sanctuary Cities.”

It’s so hip-hop, so ghetto. Not a bad effort JCL! I bet you wear your baseball hat sorta sideways, over your ears.

But, I imagine a few Upper West Side limo libs didn’t quite understand and complained about the grammar and syntax. But instead of explaining that words and language mean whatever you want them to mean, you caved in to your deep-pocketed patrons’ traditionalist sensibilities and re-titled it using the more linguistically hegemonic, heteronormative, and imperialistic formulation favored by the MSM.

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By MarthaA, July 26, 2010 at 1:02 am Link to this comment

If there is going to be sanctuary cities for illegal aliens, then why would Arizona make such a obscene law for Arizona?

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By Leefeller, July 25, 2010 at 3:11 pm Link to this comment

Its only illegals if you don’t likes it.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 2:28 pm Link to this comment

Is the “educated”  getting this education from
good ole FOXY NEWS SERVICE??

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By gerard, July 25, 2010 at 1:16 pm Link to this comment

The very idea of “union” requires people to work out their differences peaceably in order to enjoy the benefits of cooperation and peace. 
  From the beginning it was hard to get even 13 colonies to get togerher for the common good. The English king forced the issue, and things went along (with a good deal of squabbling and name-calling) until the slavery issue tore the nation in two.
  Post-Civil War, an uneasy peace was achieved, mostly by facing touchy issues indirectly and piecemeal. Without the binding philosphy and law of the Constitution, the union would probably not cohere.
  Thank God for unequivocal phrases like “justice” and “domestic tranquility” (how quaint that sounds these days!) and “assure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.” Without them and the laws and courts that (most of the time) manage to uphold them—sort of—we’d be in worse shape.
  The fault is in ourselves.  If we would just live up to our promise ... allegiance to “one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”
  If .....

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By cheyennebode, July 25, 2010 at 1:06 pm Link to this comment
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INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER THE CITIES A BETTER STATEGY WOULD BE TO
PROSECUTE THE MAYORS ...STARTING WITH THE BLATANT BLOOMBERG..IF
MEDIA NEEDS A NEW HOT STORY THAT WOULD GENERATE SOME PROFIT..I
WOULD RECOMMEND THEM GETTING BEHIND THIS SUGGESTION

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By berniem, July 25, 2010 at 11:42 am Link to this comment

Lets see, I’m a true-blue, hard workin’, god fearin’, gun lovin’, white, “educated”, flag wavin’, tea party supportin’, all American from Podunk, Anywhere, USA who hates big govt.,thinks its too involved in our business, over taxes us, won’t let us pray in schools or discipline our kids like we should, and is stealing our liberty. But its about time the govt. goes after all those towns that are hidin’ those welfare suckin’ illegals, whoever they are, and make them throw those people in jail!

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