...Mosaddegh had no legal claim…. - arguable
http://www.mohammadmossadegh.com/news/iranians-newspaper/

you’re making a mistake….....he was installed as Shah in 1941…as anyone and
everyone can confirm.

the coup was to prevent Mosaddegh from seizing powers for which Mosaddegh
had no legal claim.

the coup de facto supported the Shah because it ended the usurpation of his
power .....it did not install him.

read more widely.

(and no, nothing in my remarks should be read as an endorsement of the Shah,
the constitution of Iran that Mosaddegh was attempting to shred, or an
endorsement of the rather odious coup)

A ‘great venture’: overthrowing the government of Iran

by Mark Curtis From Lobster 30
- http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/articles/l30iran.htm

This is a slightly abridged version of part of chapter four of Mark Curtis’s book
The Ambiguities of Power: British Foreign Policy since 1945 (Zed Press, 1995).

* * *
In August 1953 a coup overthrew Iran’s nationalist government of Mohammed
Musaddiq and installed the Shah in power.

[...]
_________________________________________

CIA conspiracy in Iran which installed Khomeini and the Mullahs
http://tinyurl.com/4x8w4jc
January 31, 2011 by Jack Blood  

A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order
by F. William Engdahl

“In November 1978, President Carter named the Bilderberg group’s George Ball,
another member of the Trilateral Commission, to head a special White House
Iran task force under the National Security Council’s Brzezinski. Ball
recommended that Washington drop support for the Shah of Iran and support
the fundamentalistic Islamic opposition of Ayatollah Khomeini. Robert Bowie
from the CIA was one of the lead ‘case officers’ in the new CIA-led coup
against the man their covert actions had placed into power 25 years earlier.

[...]

-“the reality on the ground where average people persevere day-in-day-out is
this: NATO perished more civilians in 8 months than Gaddafi did in 42 years
and destroyed the equivalence in infrastructure,”—

that’s not reality, that’s utter crap and only asserted by Gaddafi and his
subordinates. 

you also don’t know iranian history. The Shah of Iran assumed the throne in
1941.

the US/British coup to oust Mosaddegh—in 1953-didn’t install the Shah…..

and you don’t know a damn thing if you want to say that the CIA installed
Khomeini. That’s just ignorant and foolish.

yet another straw man

both the Shaw and Komenie were promoted (installed) by the CIA & MI6, as is
the NTC - Gaddafi we now know colluded with CIA & MI6 - should be a lesson
to political figures around the world: these people are too dangerous to deal
with in an reasonable sense - moreover, what’s revealed in media limited
hangouts is largely illusory, psy-op, propaganda, etc. spinning Libya’s counter-
espionage crimes as more severe than Anglo-American black-ops

the reality on the ground where average people persevere day-in-day-out is
this: NATO perished more civilians in 8 months than Gaddafi did in 42 years
and destroyed the equivalence in infrastructure, private property and productive
capacity built by and for the Libyan people over that time - built to the point
that it was the most prosperous nation in Africa

BUT, perhaps most important of all: Libya carried no (zero) debt service to the
IMF/World Bank and Libya massively funded the African Development Bank for
0% loans to Africa - literally in the face of the IMF - essential reason for the
invasion - conduited through a postmodern, massively propagandized
astroturf ‘revolution’

Libya’s future as a developed nation is now seriously at risk - indeed, all the
African Union is at risk, especially as it emerges what Obomber has in mind for
them, e.g.

Indian Punchline
Reflections on foreign affairs - http://tinyurl.com/3e8rvbh

Obama sends combat troops to Africa
A contingent of “combat-equipped” American troops landed in Uganda last
week intervening in that country’s longstanding proxy war with Somalia-based
Lord’s Resistance Army [LRA]. Uganda says it didn’t seek US intervention, but
would welcome it anyway, now that it happened.

President Barack Obama wrote a fascinating letter to the US Congress justifying
the military intervention in Central Africa. The letter repeated twice that the
intervention “furthers US national security interests and foreign policy.” He
didn’t elaborate. Curiously, US troops will be backing a dictatorial regime in
Uganda. No tall claims of the US promoting an “Africa Spring”, et al. It is an old-
fashioned US military intervention.  [...]

the assertion does not really inform any more than an assertion by the son of the
Shah saying that Khomeini hasn’t won yet informs.

again, too typical of TD commentary, a straw man hoisted…

reporting Saif al-Islam’s statement to the people of libya has nothing to do with
my ‘...thinking…’

the statement was reported simply to demonstrate that this war is not over - Saif’s
assertion of broad tribal support is worth noting - it informs the discussion

it informs the discussion far more than do adolescent insults, which should never
be acknowledged beyond citing their uselessness

if blogdog wishes to indulge itself by thinking that being a son odf a dictator
somehow conveys some idiot form of hereditary claim to leadership more’s the
pity.

some dogs will eat puke.

John Pilger compares the Fallujah massacre in 2004 by NATO to the current attack
on Sirte

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M_CmbvNSqZc#!

of course, not to be reported in MSM, Democracy Now, TD - listen to Pilger
quoting Harold Pinter, “...because it didn’t happen…”

BLOODY HELL!

it seems this war is already expanding beyond the boarders of Libya and here,
Adrien Salbuchi makes strikingly clear whom is to blame!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCyixN0NNPs&feature=related

since NTC can demonstrate no more than 10% popular support, no measure of
defensible legitimacy can be extended to them -  destroying virtually everything
not yet destroyed is NATO/NTC’s only option for controlling Libya - and more
Africans are streaming in to join the partisans in defending not only Libya but
all of Africa from neocolonialist aggression

______________________

today Jamahiriya (Libyan people’s governance) sources report:

The son and heir apparent of the late Colonel Gaddafi, Saif al-Islam, is still
in Libya. He is free and will go on with resistance, he reportedly claimed in an
address to supporters aired by Syria’s Arrai TV Channel, loyal to the Libyan ex-
leader.

Thirty-nine-year-old Saif al-Islam is the second son of Muammar Gaddafi and
carried out public relations and diplomatic roles for his father. Western-
educated and the most-recognized Libyan official, he was often viewed as
Colonel’s successor and a possible reformer.

—-“The devastation of Sirte has been reported to be on par with Fallujah’s from
several years ago.”—-

who’s reporting that equivalence?

and who is supposed to have done the devastating?

To expand on the NATO stats, this is how the humanitarian efforts panned out:
Ships delivering Humanitarian Assistance 21 OCTOBER: 0
Aircraft delivering Humanitarian Assistance 21 OCTOBER: 34

The devastation of Sirte has been reported to be on par with Fallujah’s from
several years ago.

RE: “...Just once put yourselves in the place of the Libyans.”

indeed

NATO’s Air War Continues: 26,223 Sorties Over Libya

Strike sorties conducted 21 OCTOBER: 0 [No one left to kill]

—-“and if Allah wishes, I shall die”—-

score one for Allah.

The Libyans not Obama killed Gadhafi.
Al Jazeera and the BBC had extensive coverage of the Libyan revolution in the past two months.  Instead of finding a way out of the country in the past month Gadhafi used his foreign mercenaries as snipers to kill his own countrymen.  Think about that.  Too what end?  He was finished anyway.  Just once put yourselves in the place of the Libyans.  It is a miracle he only ended up getting shot.

Steve Pieczenik:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-SVFgDztZE&feature=player_embedded#!

“The court had wanted to have a forensic expert inspect the body before the
burial, he said, but after seeing the NTC’s own report the court agreed that
would not be necessary”

Apparently the ICC trusts the NTC, significantly comprised of jihadists, who
helped lead the “Arab Spring” in Libya and who were probably motivated by
retaliation against Gaddafi for cooperating with the Bush administration in its
antiterrorism efforts in Libya 8-10 years ago. 

The ICC has no need to for the body which will have its “Islamic” burial at sea
according to earlier reports. That’s after it removed from the freezer where it’s
been put on public display by the transitional groups responsible for Libya’s
transition to a more humanitarian society. 

In contrast to Bush’s unilateralism, Obama has achieved a remarkable
international cooperation in his ever-expanding war fronts. It’s perplexing.

proof? now we have it… NTC says so, seems good enough for ICC, whose
sponsors are now off the hook for what might have come out in trial - e.g.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/10/21/idINIndia-60030120111021

[...]

Jibril said DNA samples and blood was taken from the body. Also taken
were samples of Gaddafi’s hair, but that turned out to be “fake”, seemingly
confirming widespread rumours that Libya’s feared ruler of 42 years had had
hair implants.

The court had wanted to have a forensic expert inspect the body before the
burial, he said, but after seeing the NTC’s own report the court agreed that
would not be necessary

[...]

Thank you, brewerstroupe, for your post.  The West has
no honor, its leaders are cowards.

Gaddafi was killed in the style Obama apparently loves: Assassination without trial.

Now get ready, the real civil war starts in that country and the blood will flow.

the questions are far more serious than just how ‘it’ happened…  e.g.  http://libyasos.blogspot.com/

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 21, 2011

HOW MANY OF GADDAFI’S DOUBLES DID THEY ACTUALY KILL?

ANALYSING ‘GADDAFI’S KILLED’ VIDEOS:

1. On the videos which were allegedly recorded in Sirte, sun is shining, dust everywhere..  however ,in reality,just a day before -Sirte was FLOODED.

2. In two different parts of the same video..we can see that the ‘Colonel’ has two different hair colors.. in one part he has light-brown hair, in the other he has black hair.

3. In one of the videos ‘dead Colonel’ has bumpy nose, looks broken in a strange way, in other videos where this man is dead, his nose is straight

4. In the early videos (from Sirte) his face looks very young, and we all know how wrinkled he was.

5. They said that he was shot in the legs, and that he bled to death.. but this captured ‘Colonel’  is standing while they are pushing him around. In addition, lower part of the body is not covered with blood.

6. Naked uper part of body of the ‘Colonel’ is young, with no signs of aging in the videos, but real Colonel is a 70 years old man. Do you know how the body of a 70 years old man looks like,  especialy of a man who have spent all his life in a desert.

7. Some of the released videos were recorded a day before, on 19th of october (!!)

8. According to one of their propaganda stories, they found ‘him’ in a sewer. And yet ‘he’  appears freshly shaven, his beard trimmed on the videos etc..

9. There is another strange detail in the video in Sirte also, one black woman- a civilian-  stands and watches the show , seeming very relaxed. A black civilian woman in Sirte on the side of the rats (!?). This is impossible. Everyone knows what NATO Al Qaeda rats are doing to black men, women and children in Libya. They hang, lynch and behead them. Especialy Sirte black women, IF there are ANY left in Sirte (which I highly doubt) would never be on the side of the racist rats. This is realy strange.

10. On one video Gaddafi is covered with blood when they are placing him on a pick-up, on another with the same ‘action’ his face is clean like he is headed to a wedding.

11. Fact: Massive demonstrations against NATO and NTC were being prepared, unified counter- attack, uprising has already started on 14th of october.

12. Just days after Hilary came and said she wants Gaddafi dead, ‘he’ got killed.

13. Not just him, his sons and every high-official person they could remember of ‘got killed on the same day IN SIRTE’, although it is known that Gaddafi and his sons were leading different brigades at different fronts around Libya. (note: Libya is the size of 1/3 of Europe, and Sirte is just one small town which was for months under siege)

14. Gaddafi’s daughter Aisha says he is alive.

15. Gaddafi has 12 doubles.

QUESTION: HOW MANY OF GADDAFI’S DOUBLES DID THEY ACTUALY KILL?

_______________________________________

regardless the outcome, this civil war will not end any time soon:

NATO/NTC control not even 20% of the geography and have even less popular support - they are desperate and need to demoralize not only the partisans but neighboring Africans streaming in to join the partisans in their fight against NATO’s neocolonial invasion - they know they’re to be targeted too

important to get Libya first - it is the leader of the African Union and its Development Bank is targeted either for failure or takeover by the IMF/World Bank

as for diversions, I’d consider OWS more likely a diversion away from what NATO has been and is (very likely for some time to come) doing to Libya - the seige and arial bombardment of Sirte (a city of 100,000) is destined for a place in history to rival Guernica

NATO’s Ministers and affiliate heads of state are those for whom the International Criminal Court should rightly have issued warrants

Brief introduction to Jamahiriya (Government of the masses) - the system introduced by Gaddafi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVDdBYsAzA8

Let’s celebrate another foreign death as we are distracted from the transfer of America into private corporate ownership.  America’s government might require some Syrian blood to keep us distracted in the 2012 election year.

Looking Back at Gaddafi’s Iron Fist Rule
Muammar Gaddafi’s reign from 1969 was underlined by
the total control of his people which ultimately led
to his downfall.
http://www.newslook.com/videos/363770-looking-back-
at-gaddafi-s-iron-fist-rule?autoplay=true
 
NTC’s Hopes After Gaddafi’s Death
Libya’s National Transitional Council is hoping that
the death of Muammar Gaddafi will bring stability to
the country. http://www.newslook.com/videos/363771-
ntc-s-hopes-after-gaddafi-s-death?autoplay=true

Sarkozy’s claims of Gaddafi’s death ending NATO involvement aren’t credible, like
the one of the NTC fighter independently executing him.  Apparently, they’re going
to cut out from a more deeply divided country than ever after leaving it in it
shambles.  All this for one man?  I think not. 

The burial at sea redux has nothing to do with Muslim traditions, anymore than
building shrines at the grave. 

The confluence of the media, whether international like BBC or the US outlets, with
the makeshift official versions is alarming.  I feel apprehension to even
communicate the obvious on a blog.

“Now,
I am under attack by the biggest force in military history, my little African son, Obama wants to kill me, to take away the freedom of our country, to take away our free housing, our free medicine, our free education, our free food, and replace it with American style thievery, called capitalism,” but all of us in the Third World know what that means, it means corporations run the countries, run the world, and the people suffer, so, there is no alternative for me, I must make my stand, and if Allah wishes, I shall die by following his path, the path that has made our country rich with farmland, with food and health, and even allowed us to help our African and Arab brothers and sisters to work here with us ...
...I do not wish to die, but if it comes to that, to save this land, my people, all the thousands who are all my children, then so be it.
... In the West, some have called me “mad”, “crazy”. They know the truth but continue to lie, they know that our land is independent and free, not in the colonial grip.”

- from:
Recollections of My Life
by Col. Muammar Gaddafi, April 8, 2011

Hey - I LOVE it. Mitt Romney and Gadhafi’s pictures right next to each other in similar poses. This couldn’t better: two sociopathic, narcissists together at last!!!!!!!!