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Pope’s Visit Won’t Change Cuban Politics

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Posted on Mar 27, 2012
AP / Ismael Francisco, Cubadebate

Pope Benedict XVI is greeted by Cuba’s President Raul Castro upon the pontiff’s arrival at the airport in Santiago de Cuba on Monday.

Pope Benedict XVI may have prayed for change in the Cuban political system during his stopover on the island nation on Tuesday, but he won’t see any tangible results anytime soon, according to one high-profile member of President Raul Castro’s administration.  —KA

AP via USA Today:

Marino Murillo, Cuba’s economic czar and a vice president on President Raul Castro’s council of ministers, said that while the country is shaking up its economy, “in Cuba there will not be political reform.”

Murillo’s comments to a room full of journalists covering the papal visit were a quick and categorical response to comments by Benedict earlier in the day, when he made a highly symbolic prayer visit to the shrine of the nation’s patron saint.

“I have entrusted to the Mother of God the future of your country, advancing along the ways of renewal and hope, for the greater good of all Cubans,” the pope said at the sanctuary in the little town of El Cobre.

“I have also prayed to the Virgin for the needs of those who suffer, of those who are deprived of freedom, those who are separated from their loved ones or who are undergoing times of difficulty.”

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By heterochromatic, March 31, 2012 at 8:00 pm Link to this comment

Interestingly enough… the Pope asked and Cuba answered…....


 
Cuba declares next Good Friday a holiday


http://tinyurl.com/godfriday

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By moonraven, March 29, 2012 at 10:23 am Link to this comment

Have it your way, hillbilly.

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By heterochromatic, March 29, 2012 at 9:07 am Link to this comment

you bein’ an awful fuckhead

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By moonraven, March 29, 2012 at 8:11 am Link to this comment

Or even I went to ....in a past lifetime.

Doesn’t cut it now, stench mcdench.

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By moonraven, March 29, 2012 at 8:10 am Link to this comment

Learn English.  If it was long ago you do not use the present perfect tense.  It would not be I have been, but I was in or I went to.

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By heterochromatic, March 28, 2012 at 7:37 pm Link to this comment

I have been to Cuba, moonie, long, long ago.

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By moonraven, March 28, 2012 at 6:43 pm Link to this comment

PS:  Stenchful one, when are you going to tantrum for change in YOUR pinche genocidal dictatorship?

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By moonraven, March 28, 2012 at 6:40 pm Link to this comment

Hettie:  You have never been to Latin America, and certainly not to Cuba.

Ergo, you are not entitled to opine.

Moreover, you have never posted anything on this site that was not an infantile personal attack or a thousands-of-times recycled sour grapes gringo rap against Cuba.

As for th4e idea of change, the Law of Restaurants states that change is always for the worse.  It has applied repeatedly to Latin American politics, and there are very few exceptions to it.

When you come up with an original experience and an original idea, let me know.  I will not be holding my breath.

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By vector56, March 28, 2012 at 6:09 pm Link to this comment

“As I said in another post, Pope Benedict XVI wasn’t a willing member of the Hitler Youth. He was CONSCRIPTED, i.e. a child soldier.”

Sebastian Lawhorne;

Nonsense! At best Joseph Ratzinger was a coward who did not have the guts to join the resistance. Child solider my rear end; was the 16 year old we murdered by drone a child soldier?  Don’t try and compare this 16 year old NAZI to the 7 and 8 year old child soldiers in Africa. This man should have not been Pope!!!

How dare a freaking NAZI pass judgement on Castro.


http://atheism.about.com/od/benedictxvi/i/RatzingerNazi.htm

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By heterochromatic, March 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm Link to this comment

how is it “patriotism” to state that the Cuban
revolution has fizzled and that it has degenerated
into a dictatorship rife with repression and
censorship?

as a kid, I was a fan of Fidel, but 40+ years later,
there’s no denying that it’s time for something
different. something that will replace this present
set of failure and offer a chance of something
better, just as long ago the overthrow of Batista was
a change for the better.

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By moonraven, March 28, 2012 at 3:11 pm Link to this comment

Gringolandia is the Perfect Dictatorship.

And whatever perverted experiment it represented failed more than 200 years ago.

Do you think you could pimp a little louder for patriotism?

Not that it would matter….

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By berniem, March 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm Link to this comment

I’m sure the “communist” Castro was most impressed by the ministrations of the representative of the “nation” created through the beneficence of Benito Mussolini. By the way was he or any of those other wild and crazy 20th century fascio-catholics ever excommunicated for their treatment of those who came under their domain?

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By berniem, March 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm Link to this comment

I’m sure the “communist” Castro was most impressed by the ministrations of the representative of the “nation” created through the beneficence of Benito Mussolini. By the way was he or any of those other wild and crazy 20th century fascio-catholics ever excommunicated for their treatment of those who came under their domain?

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By heterochromatic, March 28, 2012 at 1:53 pm Link to this comment

work on your ignoring skills , bird.

and let’s throw in some info about the world and the things in the psot.

the Cuban regime was never able to deliver on its promises, for a variety of
reasons, and failed… it was a damn good thing that it destroyed the old Cuban
regime and the American interests that dominated the island.


but dictatorship is total failure

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By moonraven, March 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment

Thge rotting hologram of hettie is just too l a m e.

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By heterochromatic, March 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm Link to this comment

wouldn’t be at all surprised to hear you top chickenshit w/ice cream fore stuffing
in your maw.

just your good taste, fersure.

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By moonraven, March 28, 2012 at 1:06 pm Link to this comment

hettie hediondo:  You are not even a cheap knock-off of me.

I am over you like ice cream is over chickenshit.

Try fitting your maw with a a sweatsock.

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By Sebastian Lawhorne, March 28, 2012 at 12:14 pm Link to this comment
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@vector56: As I said in another post, Pope Benedict XVI wasn’t a willing member of the Hitler Youth. He was CONSCRIPTED, i.e. a child soldier. Check your facts before you unleash your irrational vitriol.

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By heterochromatic, March 28, 2012 at 12:10 pm Link to this comment

vec—- I didn’t allow him to become Pope…. I campaigned and voted for Bishop
Ortega.

I was not only disappointed but outraged that my vote wasn’t counted and am
thinking of getting Hedges’ lawyers to help me sue to overturn the vote.

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By heterochromatic, March 28, 2012 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment

moonie—-could you get your both hands together and locate your several
promises to ignore me ?

otherwise, I’m going to yield to my temptation to talk to bigots, and as you’re such
a bigot that you’re incessantly and witlessly chirping your cheep shit and we’ll be
going unsteady together.

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By vector56, March 28, 2012 at 11:32 am Link to this comment

Bull shit; “Hitler youth”, NAZI, are one in the same. I saw the photos of this little NAZI proudly posing for the camera.

heterochromatic, your racism is bleeding through; killing 16 year old Muslims is ok, but allowing a NAZI to be Pope, not so bad. Next you will be telling us that Nazi’s weren’t as bad as the human beings we now call Terrorist.
Don’t have the guts to take on the Catholic Church?

Also, Cuban Doctors where saving lives in the poorest of places long before Doctors without borders. If there is a God, he should mimic Castro.

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By moonraven, March 28, 2012 at 11:29 am Link to this comment

Not that I believe in habitually resorting to cheap shots, hettie, but considering you have been dead for two weeks and still are stenchfully lingering on this site, your comment in respect to Fidel is simply silly.

Fidel is GOD all over Latin America, and has been for more than 50 years.  Moreover, he has prevailed over just about an even dozen of your plastic dumbass presidents (Carter being the exception as he is actually intelligent as well as a friend of Fidel’s).  He has retired from government, but not from writing articles and books that are eagerly received and read all around the planet. 

Who eagerly reads you?  Or any gringo, for that matter?  Pimps for patriotism are a dime a ton.

Raul is respected by all people as well as heads of state in a way that gringos could not even dream of being respected.

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By heterochromatic, March 28, 2012 at 9:55 am Link to this comment

Fidel is retired from government and very soon to be dead—- his little brother is
widely despised and also soon to be dead.

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By moonraven, March 28, 2012 at 9:46 am Link to this comment

TOO BAD THE ROTTING CORPSE OF HETTIE HAS NEVER BEEN ANYWHERE IN LATIN AMERICA, INCLUDING CUBA.

FIDEL IS MORE POPULAR THAN GOD.

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By moonraven, March 28, 2012 at 9:43 am Link to this comment

Surfer wrote:

“Having seen prayers work I would hesitate to minimize the Pope’s efforts.”

His efforts at disappearing all the pedophile scandals have not been spectacularly effective now, have they?

There’s no reason that I can think of to send Cuba back to the Dark Ages—that spot is too densely populated already by gringos.

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By heterochromatic, March 28, 2012 at 9:16 am Link to this comment

vec—- if the 16 year old Ratzenberger was in the middle of a Wehrmacht camp
when an American plane bombed it and the little Ratz was killed in the
bombardment,,,,,it would have been perfectly proper. .... and no one would
have complained….not even you possibly.


and perhaps you should spend a few minutes and acquaint yourself with the
difference between Hitler Youth   and grownup Nazi before deciding on how
much people should be complaining. 


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Ratzinger.html

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By Blueokie, March 28, 2012 at 6:56 am Link to this comment

hetero - You’ve done it again, I had read about that but hadn’t seen it, that is a hoot.  Working title suggestion: “Uncle Fester at Halloween”.

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By vector56, March 28, 2012 at 5:54 am Link to this comment

“Having seen prayers work I would hesitate to minimize the Pope’s efforts. “

Surfboy; comment a above kinda sets the tone for this post and some of the comments made by those here who are predictable like heterochromatic.


1.) Correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t Pope Benedict XVI at age 16 a NAZI? Before anyone counters, consider this; Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, age 16 was killed by drone for being a Terrorist (?) If we can hold Al-Walaki’s 16 year old son responsible for being (allegedly) part of Terrorist group (guilt by association), why are we so forgiving of a Pope who proudly displayed himself as a “Hitler Youth”?

I an sure no one here thinks that so-called “Terrorist” are worse than NAZIS? 

2.) About 98% of the suffering imposed on the Cuban people was/is brought about by the 50 years of sanctions/embargo by the US government. Recall what 12 years of sanctions did to Iraq before we moved in for the kill. The Castro brothers did not cut the Cuban people off from the “global community” for 50 years, we did! Castro did not attempt to assassinate US president countless times (even subcontracting to the mob), we did!

So, the next time this former NAZI Pope wants to past judgement on some one maybe he should look to the north or in a freaking mirror. 

Lastly, I find the “cowardliness” of the Jewish community somewhat telling; the “fact” that the Pope was a NAZI and they have not made an issue of it shows me that like all bullies the seek to avoid opponents who can defend themselves (the Catholic Church).

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By Robespierre115, March 28, 2012 at 2:50 am Link to this comment

@heterochromatic, I’m sure John Bolton or Donald Rumsfeld agree with you LOL

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By heterochromatic, March 27, 2012 at 9:43 pm Link to this comment

yeah, Blue, it’s hard to see any difference between Truthdig and Weasel Zippers….


and damn straight that Truthdig doesn’t spend enough space and effort reporting
on all the Pope’s visits…..and hardly any pictures either.


here.

http://tinyurl.com/blueokie

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By Blueokie, March 27, 2012 at 9:30 pm Link to this comment

Typical of center-right truthdig to propagandize Ratzenberger’s political stop over
in Cuba while not mentioning Mexico.

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By heterochromatic, March 27, 2012 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment

Robes——could be that the Pope is more popular in
Cuba than is anybody in the Cuban government.

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By Robespierre115, March 27, 2012 at 5:23 pm Link to this comment

Why exactly should Cuba or anyone, care about what the Pope says in the 21st century? Benedict XVI was one of the Vatican officials who stayed pretty quiet during the 1980s when US-trained death squads were raping and killing clerics, nuns and Liberation Theology Catholics in Central America.

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By heterochromatic, March 27, 2012 at 3:02 pm Link to this comment

Hey, if a member of Raul Castro’s ruling clique says the Pope’s visit won’t
change anything, that should be proof enough for everybody .......Them Castro
boys is immortal, of course, and nothing in the Cuban dictatorship would ever
cause any dissatisfaction among the population, who get plenty to eat fro 3
weeks every month.

 

 

CalRay——what did the Pope do that ran afoul of Helms-Burton?

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By California Ray, March 27, 2012 at 2:25 pm Link to this comment

When the Pope stepped off the plane in Havana, he flouted U.S. laws (Helms–
Burton Act, 22 U.S.C. § 6021 et.seq.) that reinforce the U.S. embargo against
Cuba. Obama must declare that all options are on the table in dealing with the
Vatican and its spotlight-chasing leader.

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