sarah palin has no heart and no head.- the fact that this callous weirdo attacts anybody is a sad commentary of American so-called culture.

doublestandards:

The Repubs are as dysfunctional as the Dems. 24/7 news makes cowards out of almost everybody in that no one wants to say what they really feel for fear of offending 3% of listeners; the threshold, in my opinion, necessary to make such a comment a national scandal these days.

Tea Partiers don’t care if they offend progressives. So, no Tea Partier will ever be nominated by the Repubs, because, as has been pointed out time and time again on this website, there is very little difference between the two major parties. Both parties believe that big, intrusive, extra-Constitutional government is here to stay.

I’ve never understood the hatred progressives had for Bush, except for his inability to speak coherent English. He signed every bill the Democratic congress sent him, spending like a drunken sailor. He would have signed any immigration bill that came to his desk. He wasn’t going for a win in Iraq and A’stan, he was going for a tie.

I hate to say it, but Palin is now, as in the past, a cheerleader. And cheerleaders don’t win games.

I want my president to be intelligent, rational, experienced in the way the real world works, not just the grievance industry, an unapologetic capitalist, a firm believer in the American Experiment, and above all, constitutionally conservative. Obama has the first two nailed, but that’s not enough. There are several on the right who fit the entire bill, but they have trouble pleasing the piranhas in the media.

wow what an impressive victory - a Harvard Law graduate win over an callous air head.

Obama wins a poll over Palin. Now there’s a shocker! I would think even Dennis Kucinich could beat Palin. What’s the big deal? Pretty soon the Repubs are going to come up with a serious candidate, and Obama will be history.

Underclass and liberal minded voters still are loyal to the president despite his
neglect of their basic needs. His supporters are like an abused woman that despite
her bruises swears that she is still loved.  Wealthy businessmen are treated more
kindly, they are from the big corporations that have soaked up a trillion dollars in
stimulus money. During his state of the union address Obama received more
applause than any other president in memory. Security guards had to beg for
silence so Obama could get a chance to tie a ribbon around his gift. Republicans
have no chance to defeat a president that knows how to charm the poor and at
the same time fill the vaults of the rich.

hello. all polls are paid for by someone, and that is
how the results are interpreted. now that Ms.Palin is
a millionaire, they can take a lot of her money if
she runs. after she loses, she will be back to
shooting coyotes off the back seat of Tod’s
snowmobile. until her next book tour. even though it
tickles her naughty place wrong that lobbyists write
laws for Congress types to not read, and globalists
are usurping our Constitution: she has no platform to
correct these wet feelings. she turns on, to endorse
business as usual, while parroting how awful it all
must be to youse serfs. be glamorous, photogenic, and
make something of yourselves; or live through me:
that is her platform -empty. unless she is secreting
a platform so close to her bosom, that her sexuality
will drip excitement over everyone, when she exposes
it: and we will all lap her into office. my vote will
not be bought, nor sexually enticed. politics beyond
the norm is in order. if all the globalists want, is
world government and world currency, they can try it
without us. if the socialists want to overthrow our
prosperity, that is biting the hand that feeds them.
ask Arnold when he returns from Moscow how much their
Silicon Valley project will cost us. people against
the system fear going to jail? i just read prisoners
get $64/day spent on them. that is twice what Social
Security recipients live on. everything in our
government is broken. this woman has no solutions,
only our attention. a third party may be a solution.

Poll puts JAB* over Palin in 2012. 

*Just about Anybody

FRTothus and Tobysgirl are both right, in that people are both apathetic and afraid. The Sisyphus metaphor applies. I think that the former’s estimation of public awareness is a bit inflated, however.

Most people do indeed know about the general corruption, yes, but they do not know anymore than the MSM (mostly Fox News, actually) tells them.

They do not even know enough to separate their “liking” for the slick surface persona of Obama from a deeper perception of what is going on just below the surface.

I am reminded of O’Donnell’s ad (“I AM YOU”), the one everyone, including SNL, seems to be panning. Actually, it was brilliantly constructed, at least psychologically.

Obama and the Dems are also just a brilliant psychologically-honed construct. Most voters still see them as an option rather than what they really are underneath.

Tobysgirl, just because it isn’t covered in the corporate press (and thus won’t appear on TruthDig) does not mean there is widespread apathy, or that there is not a broad and accurate understanding of the illegitimacy of the corporate government, the bribery called lobbying, the inside job that was 9/11 (and London’s 7/7), or the reasons for US warfare.  People understand the war is about control of oil, poppies, and the business of war, and that they have little say in what is alleged to be their own government.  They hear the bullies endlessly cry wolf, see their lives and the lives of their children compromised, the perennial give-aways to the wealthy, an end to pensions, job and home security stripped away, the dollar diluted, buying power eroded, the punishment of the poor, and the criminalization of dissent.  These things are not unnoticed by the majority.  Perhaps the reason Americans won’t take to the streets is because they know the police will kill them or beat their heads in as look at them, and that the courts will back up the State’s henchmen.  People are not stupid, and they know what is happening and know what has been lost.

Jesse Ventura for President!

Business leaders have learned to trust the president and are not interested in
changing the leadership in 2012. Obama has been a sweetheart and has not
interfered with corporate freedom or profits. He also has the charisma to keep the
underclasses charmed while the wealthy whistle on their way to the bank. No
Republican candidate can defeat Obama, the man for all seasons.

Shocking! How would Palin do paired with the lovely, Christine O’Donnell? ROFLMAO!

ITW

I love Nader, and believe that if we started a real movement among progressive folk… we could begin a viable 3rd party.

If we could stop being ‘practical’ and perpetuating our current system by electing between bad and worse… we could begina a viable 3rd party.

A movement rejecting the two-party candidates.  It would be great.

I hate to tell you this, FF, but all the antiwar protesters who were protesting during the Bush years are still protesting. All the people I know who have been engaged in these activities are still trying to chip away at the war machine with their salt spoons. It’s simply a Sisyphean battle that is not helped by an apathetic public which seems unable to comprehend that the money we spend prosecuting endless wars comes out of its pocket. No, let’s scream about welfare! And I don’t mean welfare for the rich, I mean pennies for the poor.

kerryrose

I’d like to know who that 35% that would vote for Palin is?

Horny old white males. Personally, I’d hit it, but I wouldn’t vote for it.

...and while we’re on the subject of DADT, it was the Log Cabin Republicans that won the injunction. Hmmm? Will Obama’s DOJ file an appeal?

From the LP:

Gay Democrats are like abused spouses who return to their attackers.

http://www.outrightusa.org/issues.html

Thoughts?

I’d like to know who that 35% that would vote for Palin is?

35% of the US population would vote for Palin?

Inherit The Wind

There is no difference. They are both for sale, they both lie, and they both favor Welfare and warfare. The lesser of two evils is still evil. Civil liberties, Gitmo, perpetual war, DADT, TBTF…

Wedge issues are bullshit, and they are both so full of shit, their eyes are brown. And no, I am not a Nader supporter. Tell me, where are all the anti-war protesters now that Obama is in office?

http://www.lp.org/news/press-releases/anti-war-liberals-can-vote-libertarian

Well, Jesus Christ, if he wasn’t doing better than her that would mean the lunatics were indubitably running the asylum.

Inherit the Wind:

>Where are the Nader natterers to tell us there’s not any difference between Palin and Obama?  I’m sure they’re around here somewhere, just waiting to lay their own very special brand of clap-trap on us.

I vote for Gore, not Nader, but I’ll be happy to step up to the plate.

Palin is dangerous, loony and strategically smart. Obama is effete, nominally sane (assuming anyone knows what “rendition without torture” suggests) and—at this juncture—a total airhead strategically.

I wouldn’t say that there was no difference between them, just that when all is said and done, they’re both working for Wall Street. One of the more salient differences is that the WSJ treats Palin with grudging respect, while it treats Obama with invincible disdain. Maybe, after all, it’s just a function of whom it regards as the bigger prostitute.

Palin, of course, is a Christo-fascist and a hypocrite at heart. Obama has merely kept almost all of Bush’s fascist decrees intact relative to privacy rights and what not, and his hypocrisy was made legendary not just in his cabinet appointments but in his policy implementation. It involves lots of Kool Aid and very little walk.

Oh, yeah, and then we have Afghanistan, BP, Goldman Sachs, Israel and Gaza, etc. etc. etc. I’m sure Palin would be a lot worse, but it’s sort of like comparing Vichy with Berlin. At some point, the difference becomes rather academic.

It’s a false choice, asking the wrong question.  The
American people are far more progressive than any
clown the oligarchy puts up as their front man or
she-man, as the case may be, as their latest
spokesperson.  These are varieties to impart the
illusion of choice.  Whatever it is, it ain’t
freedom.  We are living in a post-constitutional,
post-Republic age, where the law no longer applies
there are so many willing to whore themselves. They
are easily compromised, which is how they got there
in the first place.  Lawyers, who will argue for the
murderer or the rapist or the innocent victim with
equally calculated passion.  Too big to prosecute? 

“Can it be believed that the democracy which
overthrew the feudal system and vanquished kings will
retreat before tradesmen and capitalists.”
(Alexis de Tocqueville)

Where are the Nader natterers to tell us there’s not any difference between Palin and Obama?  I’m sure they’re around here somewhere, just waiting to lay their own very special brand of clap-trap on us.

Oh yeah the repubs have been such saviors though, eh?
Damned by faint praise is the phrase that comes to mind re this issue.

I can hear the applause line. Uncle Tom, in 2010, has bested Palin even though Palin has possibly already captured a plurality of voters (not unlike Hitler did in 1932) for the next presidential election.

Obama is the living, breathing exponent of that same tired party that gave us Ben Nelson, Harry Reid, Dodd and all the others who, while screwing us, said one thing but did another.

Enough said.