Washington Post:
Democrats appear to be standing on firm political ground, as they work toward a final bill. A Washington Post-ABC News poll of 1,141 adults, conducted April 12-15, found that 58 percent trusted the Democrats in Congress to do a better job handling the situation in Iraq, compared with 33 percent who trusted Bush.
The president has taken advantage of Congress’s spring recess to pound Democrats over their legislation, which would impose benchmarks for the Iraqi government to meet; create strict rules for resting, equipping and training combat troops; and set a 2008 date for the final withdrawal of U.S. troops. Despite those efforts, Bush has lost a little ground to Democrats, who in February were trusted by 54 percent to set Iraq policy.
Pessimism about the war has continued to grow. For the first time, a narrow majority of Americans, 51 percent, said the United States will lose the battle, compared with 35 percent who said the United States will win. Bush continued yesterday to say that victory in Iraq is pivotal to the larger fight against terrorism, but Americans are increasingly agreeing with the Democratic view that the issues are separate. About 57 percent now say the United States can succeed in the terrorism fight without winning the Iraq war, an increase of 10 percentage points since January, when Americans were almost evenly divided on the question.
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By cann4ing, April 17, 2007 at 10:23 pm #
This “poll” merely provides further evidence of how the corporate media manages public opinion. The electorate did not select Democrats to acquire better “managers” of war. They voted Democratic because they want this war to end, period! How different would the poll numbers have been if “We the People” where given a straight up choice to select (a) the Bush/Cheney/McCain surging stay the course plan; (b) the so-called “Democratic leadership” proposal to fund the war to the end of Bush’s term as the Iraqi puppet regime is forced to deliver to the oil industry the substance that was the real reason for war, or (c) H.R. 1234 (Kucinich) which immediately cuts off funds, uses existing funds to extract our troops, who would be replaced by an international peacekeeping force under the aegis of the UN, orders “all” U.S. contrators out, and restore Iraq’s oil and economy to its rightful owners?
Report thisBy DennisD, April 17, 2007 at 6:47 pm #
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How about getting the hell out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia and any other place else these morons are thinking of going into and worrying about the US of f**king A for change. We’re in debt up to our eyeballs, illiteracy is flourishing and I guess no one could use reasonably priced health care. Problems, we’ve got more than enough right here but since fixing them would eat into the profit margin of our corporate congressional leadership nothing will continue to be done. On it goes.....head(Dems)they win, tails(Reps)we lose!
Report thisBy elle c, April 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm #
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Democrats and Congress need to find a viable way to leave Iraq without it being in ruins. Simply leaving without planning would be a disaster, another Afghanistan. The US needs to join together with the rest of the world leaders in figuring out a multilateral way of ending terrorism and Mid-East tensions without engaging in war. The protest by Shiites and continued attacks should serve to warn our government that there will continue to be resistance, and soon a collective against American occupation.
To really get at the root of terrorism, global poverty needs to be addressed. Our leaders need to not abandon Iraq, but support its growth and the growth of other undeveloped countries by funding the UN Millennium Development Goals. According to the Borgen Project, just 0.16% of out federal budget is spent on poverty reduction while $340 billion has been spent on the war. We need to redirect our funds to programs that will work to combat the conditions that enable extremism to exist. We can’t fight terror with terror in a country we are espousing peace to; there needs to be an alternative.
Report thisBy Lord B, April 17, 2007 at 3:04 pm #
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Whoever controls the media, controls the mind.
Report thisBy QuyTran, April 17, 2007 at 1:31 pm #
But the most important job for congressional Democrats is how to put Bush/Cheney lawless administration under tight control ! Its freedom for over 6 years with monstrous mistakes will be enough and should be stopped !
Report thisBy Tom Doff, April 17, 2007 at 12:48 pm #
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Y’know, there are just too many G-D wars goin’ on these days. The Iraq war, the Afghan war, the War on Drugs, the War on Peace.......And we’re losing them all! (Except the last one)
Time for a new PR campaign, to get our spirits up and enthusiasm rolling. Hmmmmmm. I’ve got it!
Let’s forget about wars, and start a crusade (bad choice of terms?) to:
STAMP OUT STUPIDITY!
This is something the whole country, all the citizens, each of us, can get involved in and contribute toward.
To begin, I propose we all put on our golf shoes, baseball spikes, football cleats, ice skates, ice-wall climbing boots, metal-studded hiking boots, pole-climbing crampons, and visit the White House next visitor’s day for a tap dancing session on the inmates.
That’ll win the biggest war of all, and bring true peace, and law, and order to the good old US of A.
Report thisIf we throw that party, imagine the celebration the whole world would throw for us. Hell, it’d be years before we got sober enough to shake a stick at each other.
By Douglas Chalmers, April 17, 2007 at 9:03 am #
All hail the new goddess of “the art of war’! But, I wonder whether she studied Sun Zu or Prince Machiavelli?
“Pessimism about the war has continued to grow....” What war, though? You cannot “lose the battle” in a war which never existed! It was an invasion and no more than that - and after the fall of Saddam, continuing to occupy Iraq was an illegal act. The US has lost its legitimacy and is now seen as the main terrorist and threat to global security in the world today.
Neither is there any “global war” whether on “terror” or anything else except the freedom of the other countries of the world and that is being perpetrated endlessly by the USA itself. War IS terror – you can’t have such a nonsense as a “war” on terror! “Supporting the troops” is NOT a reason to continue any military campaign, either. The job they were sent to do was done and they should be brought home.
Report thisBy Hatuxka, April 17, 2007 at 8:07 am #
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“Iraq is essential to winning the war on terror”
I guess that won’t get ingrained as did the notion that travelling 5-10,000 miles to kill people in their country is “defending our country”.
Report thisBy John Lowell, April 17, 2007 at 5:25 am #
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Why in heaven’s name would the American people more trust the Democrats to manage the war in Iraq than the Republicans? Could it be that the American people are every bit as foolish and maleable as Chris Hedges paints Christian fundamentalists?
Most Democrats voted for the war in the first place and only now give as much as lip service to getting us out. And there’s the matter of their unwillingness to require congressional oversight of any attack on Iran. We’d do better with the Vegetarian Party than with either of these clowns!
We need to bring an end to this two-party, one party state if we’re ever to change and that concerns not only our warmongering. We need also an end to lobbying of every kind, literally to kick every one of those bloodsuckers out of Washington D.C. The same goes for patronage through which this soft but getting much harder dictatorship is institutionalized. In a word we need our freedom back and an end to the two headed monster that never seems to go away, elections notwithstanding.
Anyone that pretends that participation in our elections means something truly deserves the name, shlemeil, and the complaint that Washington salaries aren’t high enough to attract good people a derisive laugh. I’ve got news: Good people do things out of a desire to be charitable, not to feather their own nests. Complaints about Washington salaries are the advertizing of crooks.
John Lowell
Report thisBy Joe R., April 17, 2007 at 4:45 am #
As a Democrat I find the party to look ineffectual at best. I have lost hope that the party will do what has to be done to end this conflict and straighten out the Arab Israeli peace process.
The propaganda machine that the Republicans have is relentless and effective. They have the ability to make the best intentioned policy move done by Dems to look meddlesome and counter-productive. I hate to say it but when you own most of the media you have a hell of an advantage.
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Report thisBy Tom Doff, April 17, 2007 at 1:29 am #
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There are only two ‘policies’ applicable and relevant to ‘managing’ the Iraq war.
1. The Iraq ‘war’ is an illegal, amoral invasion of a nation that posed no threat to the US, foisted upon us by an illegal, amoral, lying cabal of neocon-zionists whose mantra is ‘Israel Uber Alles’, and their puppet Bushies, who saw an opportunity to advance the interests of their oil industry, and religion industry, friends and associates.
2. The only ‘management’ necessary for this debacle is to end it, immediately, thus providing the maximum support possible for our troops, giving them the opportunity to live for a better day; and pleading ‘mea culpa’ to the civilized world, and hoping for their forgiveness for allowing such an amoral gang as the Bushites to take temporary control of this once-great nation.
If and when the democrats, hopefully with help from the sane branch of the republican party, adopt these ‘policies’, their approval rating will shoot up from 58% to unanimity (if one excludes the ‘crazies’ vote).
Whether there is a brighter tomorrow (or, perhaps, any tomorrow at all) depends upon the new Congress, and their ability to overthrow the policies of the Bushites (or the Bushites themselves).
C’mon, Dems and friends, give courage and honesty and peace a chance, just imagine what we could all become if rid of the Bushite legacy.
Report thisBy Dawn, April 16, 2007 at 10:37 pm #
How do you win an occupation?
Report thisBy faith, April 16, 2007 at 9:38 pm #
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I truly believe that the White House administration should be impeached and removed from their offices for their egregious acts that fly in the face of the United States Constitution, for the wars in the middle east(Iraq, Afghanistan) and falsifying the reason to go to war (Iraq).
Report thisUntil recently, I thought that the new Democratic Congress was improving the current situs. But, after reading the Scott Ritter article on ‘submission of the U.S.’, which argues quite effectively against allowing AIPAC to operate as a lobby group without listing themselves as a foreign entity was quite compelling. Are we really allowing foreign entities (AIPAC, a Jewish lobby organization) to dictate American policy and military action? This certainly should not be the case.
The United States can no longer afford to be a warrior nation. We have no health care plan for our people, we do not feed all our poor and house our homeless. Our levees and infrastructure are in deplorable condition, and our military is dissolving. The poor, wounded that will require assistance and medical care for the rest of their lives have not been recognized as a long term, costly commitment that America must address.
America is in serious, serious trouble. Yet, Americans bury their heads in basketball scores and hockey games and refuse to see the obvious. Democrats are becoming more like republicans because they are being pursued by big business bucks. If they want to win, they seem to need to play the same game. Tragic results for the U.S. Eisenhower was right when he said beware of the corporate-military complex.
By Hammo, April 16, 2007 at 7:42 pm #
Americans have been deceived by the current administration too many times. Few people believe them or trust them anymore.
However, many people worry that precisely because Americans are getting wise to the Bush-Cheney bunch, that this administration could become even more dangerous. Food for thought at:
“Mind Wars: Americans, global community are targets of deception on Iraq, threats to peace”
PopulistAmerica.com
October 5, 2006
http://www.populistamerica.com/mind_wars
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“Will Bush, Cheney attack Iran? When and why?”
PopulistAmerica.com
February 2, 2007
http://www.populistamerica.com/will_bush_cheney_attack _iran_when_and_why
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