Top Leaderboard, Site wide
September 2, 2014
Truthdig: Drilling Beneath the Headlines
Help us grow by sharing
and liking Truthdig:
Sign up for Truthdig's Email NewsletterLike Truthdig on FacebookFollow Truthdig on TwitterSubscribe to Truthdig's RSS Feed

Newsletter

sign up to get updates








Truthdig Bazaar more items

 
Ear to the Ground

Note to Iran: U.S. Orders Up a Super Bunker-Buster

Email this item Email    Print this item Print    Share this item... Share

Posted on Jan 29, 2012
poniblog (CC-BY)

“Bunker-buster” bombs are designed to burrow deep underground before detonating.

After deciding that its current arsenal lacks a non-nuclear bomb powerful enough to tear through 200 feet of mountaintop and obliterate Iran’s subterranean Fodrow nuclear enrichment facility, the Pentagon has asked Boeing Co. to make a conventional weapon equal to the task.

“The development of this weapon is not intended to send a signal to any one particular country,” Pentagon press secretary George Little reported. “It’s a capability we believe we need in our arsenal and will continue to invest in it.”

—ARK

The Wall Street Journal:

The Defense Department has spent about $330 million so far to develop about 20 of the bombs, which are built by Boeing Co. The Pentagon is seeking about $82 million more to make the bomb more effective, according to government officials briefed on the plan.

Some experts question if any kind of conventional explosives are capable of reaching facilities such as those built deep underground in Iran. But U.S. defense officials say they believe the MOP [Massive Ordnance Penetrator] could already do damage sufficient to set back the program.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal Thursday, acknowledged the bomb’s shortcomings against some of Iran’s deepest bunkers. He said more development work would be done and that he expected the bomb to be ready to take on the deepest bunkers soon.

Read more

More Below the Ad

Advertisement

Square, Site wide

New and Improved Comments

If you have trouble leaving a comment, review this help page. Still having problems? Let us know. If you find yourself moderated, take a moment to review our comment policy.

By heterochromatic, January 29, 2012 at 6:29 pm Link to this comment

sorry, grok, but simply refusing to believe something is not an option for grown-
ups.

Report this

By grokker, January 29, 2012 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment

I don’t believe that the US or the EU think that Iran actually has a working weapons program. The buildup to war with the EU sanctions and tough talk by the US is about control of the region and the flow of oil. Talk of an Iranian weapons program is the convenient bogeyman to justify an invasion. Just like the last invasion only a scarier bogeyman this time. I guess in hindsight the last one wasn’t scary enough.

Report this

By heterochromatic, January 29, 2012 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment

grok—- did you read the last IAEA report or not?

from the section G—Possible Military Dimensions


42   The information which serves as the basis for the Agency’s analysis and
concerns, as identified in the Annex, is assessed by the Agency to be, overall,
credible. The information comes from a wide variety of independent sources,
including from a number of Member States, from the Agency’s own efforts and
from information provided by Iran itself. It is consistent in terms of technical
content, individuals and organizations involved, and time frames.
43. The information indicates that Iran has carried out the following activities
that are relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device:
•  Efforts, some successful, to procure nuclear related and dual use
equipment and materials by military related individuals and entities (Annex,
Sections C.1 and C.2);
• Efforts to develop undeclared pathways for the production of nuclear material
(Annex, Section C.3);
• The acquisition of nuclear weapons development information and
documentation from a clandestine nuclear supply network (Annex, Section C.4);
and
•  Work on the development of an indigenous design of a nuclear weapon
including the testing of components (Annex, Sections C.5–C.12).

———

Have you noticed that the EU—-all 27 members—- just adopted further
sanctions on Iran——way beyond those that the UN ahs agreed to impose?


read this thing for a quick overview


~~~~“The Iran nuclear issue became more intense following a November IAEA
report that pointed to Tehran having worked on designing a nuclear weapon.”


http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/middleeast/view/1179462/1/.html

Report this

By grokker, January 29, 2012 at 6:03 pm Link to this comment

Hetero, please point us to some compelling IAEA evidence of a nuke weapons program. There is nothing that I’ve seen that is anywhere near convincing or conclusive and the IAEA admits it. I think you’re blowing smoke about the European unanimous belief of an Iranian nuclear weapons program or that the Iranians even think that possessing such a program is such a boon to their security. There was some evidence of a burgeoning program but it supposedly subsided after 2003.

Report this

By heterochromatic, January 29, 2012 at 5:45 pm Link to this comment

grok—-bad guess. the Europeans’ conviction concerning Iran predate the current
economic condition. and it’s not merely the current heads of governments, but the
various intelligence agencies as well.


I appreciate that it was a reasonable theory , but it doesn’t hold.

Report this

By grokker, January 29, 2012 at 5:35 pm Link to this comment

Hetero—I’m going to make a very well educated guess and say that with the economic conditions in Europe as they are, no one wants to cross the U.S this time and they are looking for the economic benefits of Iran’s oil as members of the “coalition of the willing”. But we are talking about governments, aren’t we? I would bet that the vast majority of the European people believe nothing the war mongering U.S. has to say, not to mention that they don’t want to die in WWIII any more than I do, and they are much closer to the potential action, especially if Israel fires the first shots.

Report this

By heterochromatic, January 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm Link to this comment

grokker—-read the IAEA reports and you’ll grok the evidence. If reading’s not your
thing, try pondering why all the Europeans who were saying that Iraq WASN’T in
possession of an active nuke weapons program when Cheney was pretending
there was one all agree that Iran DOES have one.

Report this

By grokker, January 29, 2012 at 5:14 pm Link to this comment

Well Hetero, where’s the evidence of a nuclear weapons program as you say exists. The better question is: why aren’t the people that are paying to start WWIII being at least clued in on what we will all die for. Will we have another bullshit session like the one with Condie, and Tenet and Colin showing us fictional aerial photos of God knows what to justify war with Iraq?

Report this

By heterochromatic, January 29, 2012 at 3:51 pm Link to this comment

yes Gregorio, my claim about no uS bunker-busters was a claim of frivolity and
meant to highlight the frivolity of claims such as your own.

you’re deeply silly in claiming that shit about Iran.

Report this

By Gregorio, January 29, 2012 at 3:27 pm Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)

There is no proof, and plenty of counter-evidemce, that Iran has no nuclear weapons
facility, undergrround or otherwise. Heterochromatic’s calls for proof of super-bunker
busters, and then approval of their use, even if only once, are indicative of something
else.

Report this

By heterochromatic, January 29, 2012 at 2:33 pm Link to this comment

there’s no proof that the US is assembling such a weapon and you’re a horrible
warmonger, ARK….. is the Iranian lobbying paying you????, he snarked.

on the other hand, if it gets to the point that we’re gonna drop bombs on the
Iranian’s underground nuclear weapons facility, I’m all for having the right weapon
to insure that we only do it once.


and Bernie—-no. Bradley manning shouldn’t be running free, he’s not well.

Report this

By Gregorio, January 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)

The US screams for sanctions because it intends to weaken Iran before it attacks, not
because Iran has done anything wrong, except sell energy to China. A justification is
needed both to continue and increase weapons development and defense spending, and
provide Obama with a conflict so that he can be re-elected as a war president. Exact soon
a false-flag incident or phony Gulf-of-Tonkin-like incident to start a war that has been
planned for since 1979 and the fall of the Shah. Read Arthur Silber’s latest at
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/.  The US is evil, the great Satan.

Report this

By berniem, January 29, 2012 at 11:21 am Link to this comment

Amerikan ingenuity and creative at work for a better tomorrow! FREE BRADLEY MANNING!!!!!

Report this

Page 2 of 2 pages  <  1 2

 
Right 1, Site wide - BlogAds Premium
 
Right 2, Site wide - Blogads
 
Join the Liberal Blog Advertising Network
 
 
 
Right Skyscraper, Site Wide
 
Join the Liberal Blog Advertising Network
 

A Progressive Journal of News and Opinion   Publisher, Zuade Kaufman   Editor, Robert Scheer
© 2014 Truthdig, LLC. All rights reserved.