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Posted on May 2, 2012
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The U.S. Navy amphibious transport dock Ponce is a potential “floating base” for operations in the Persian Gulf.

Amid the continuing U.S. military buildup in the Persian Gulf, a defense source reportedly tells The Washington Post that Pentagon strategists believe it would take three weeks to pretty much wipe out Iran’s military capability.

For its part, the U.S. Central Command says only that it is planning and preparing for an offensive campaign to give the president some options in the event Iran attacks or attempts to block the Strait of Hormuz, a vital oil transport passageway. —ARK

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US Central Command (CENTCOM) believes it can destroy or significantly degrade Iran’s conventional armed forces in about three weeks using air and sea strikes, a defense source told The Washington Post.

“We plan for any eventuality we can and provide options to the president,” Army Lt. Col. T.G. Taylor, a spokesman at CENTCOM told the newspaper. “We take our guidance from the secretary of defense and from our civilian bosses in [Washington] DC. So any kind of guidance they give us, that’s what we go off of [sic].”

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By americanme, May 8, 2012 at 12:54 pm Link to this comment

Ah, you mean my store that was blown to bits by narcogangs, no doubt?

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By heterochromatic, May 8, 2012 at 12:52 pm Link to this comment

you don’t possess much….


and the main of that small store is damaged.

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By americanme, May 8, 2012 at 12:28 pm Link to this comment

Must have been the logistics of getting the frozen hamburger patty on , and then off, the grill.

It doesn’t take much to be the most intelligent poster on this site.

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By heterochromatic, May 8, 2012 at 12:25 pm Link to this comment

asshead—i didn’t say that a worked logistics for any military…..did I?

lying for purpose of inflating self-esteem is your bag, moonie…. self-nominated
World’s Most Intelligent truthdig commenter.

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By americanme, May 8, 2012 at 12:01 pm Link to this comment

And the lying troll former short order cook tells us another whopper:  first it was how he taught logic (sic) at a well-regarded gringo university (sic) and now how he was a logistical whiz for the military.

I wonder if anyone has ever believed this compulsive excrement producer?

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By heterochromatic, May 8, 2012 at 6:39 am Link to this comment

two good legs.

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By PatrickHenry, May 8, 2012 at 3:39 am Link to this comment

tic,

How did you ever mangage leaving your cubicle?

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By heterochromatic, May 7, 2012 at 6:26 pm Link to this comment

no, Patsy at it’s most bloated it was 9 for 1.

and I spent quite a number of years working logistics
and thank you anyway.

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By PatrickHenry, May 7, 2012 at 5:58 pm Link to this comment

Obviously your a moron tic so let me explain modern warfare to you.

For every grunt in the field there are 10 in the logistic chain getting the 3 B’s to them.  If China or Russia decided to actively get into it they would have thousands of soldiers constructing and enabling the pipeline.

The grunts are there already and will fight for free, they just need the right tools to defang the U.S. war machine.

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By heterochromatic, May 7, 2012 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment

it was your dumb head that was issuing claims that
Russia and/or China would fight for Iran.. i don’t have
any idea why you would proffer such crap… so talk
amongst yourself, Patsy.

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By PatrickHenry, May 7, 2012 at 3:40 pm Link to this comment

Why would China or Russia have to fight the U.S. with their soldiers? 

There are millions who want to get a crack at killing a U.S. soldier thanks to the past and current administrations.  All they need are the surface to air missiles to knock down the drones and helicopters and the U.S. offense would be effectively neutered just like the stingers provided by the U.S. derailed the Russian occupation.

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By americanme, May 6, 2012 at 11:47 am Link to this comment

More dumbass claims to secret information by the rsident no-neck troll.

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By heterochromatic, May 5, 2012 at 12:45 pm Link to this comment

Patsy—Thats a real possibility. The Russians and
Chinese may well seek to score some points with the
theocracy by selling, at a nice profit, som weapons
to them while they both keep on siding against Iran
and its weapons program… with a show of reluctance.

What is certain is that they won’t do any actual
fighting with Iran over this.

—————
=== “In a joint statement issued at a nuclear non-
proliferation conference in Vienna, the United
States, France, Russia, China and Britain pressed
Tehran to agree urgently with the U.N. nuclear
watchdog on access to “relevant sites and
information”.

“We remain concerned by Iran’s persistent failure to
comply with its obligations under UNSC (U.N. Security
Council) resolutions,” the statement said, referring
to repeated demands that Tehran curb its disputed
nuclear program.”(===

http://tinyurl.com/SCagainstIran

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By PatrickHenry, May 5, 2012 at 12:24 pm Link to this comment

tic,

Tell that to the Russians about the stingers.

I suspect if we were foolish enough to invade, Russia and China wouldn’t hesitate to provide hi-tech weapons a la Vietnam.

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By heterochromatic, May 5, 2012 at 8:38 am Link to this comment

PH—- mounting the stuff on wheeled vehicles doesn’t render it all that mobile in
comparison to aircraft, does it?


and iran’s AA weaponry rely on radar to locate planes, which allows the planes to
locate the AA batteries.

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By PatrickHenry, May 5, 2012 at 8:12 am Link to this comment

tic,
“Iran’s AA defenses get destroyed in first week…..”

Hardly, a predominant amount of Irani AAA is mobile.  Your quite a psychic who can state that these will be taken out in the 1st week and that Iran agents will rise up around the world to cause mischief and mayhem.

Actually I believe you to be full of shit as you have zero military experience, a internet megaphonie whose sole purpose is to create a false dictum based on a false military prowess which neither you or your ilk know anything about, only talking points which bear an uncanny resemblence to those proffered from Tel Aviv.

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By heterochromatic, May 4, 2012 at 6:55 pm Link to this comment

I definitely don’t mean tanks…. tanks can’t be used against US aircraft and don’t
survive. Iran’s AA defenses get destroyed in first week…..

shoulder-fired weapons get be successfully buried and later dug up and used.


iran’s response would likely be to authorize attacks by terrorists and non-
uniformed Iranian forces and agents against any targets they can reach
anywhere in the world .... and should they kill a bunch of civilians, it’s likely to
make us angry


and I’m not in anyway trivializing this, I’m describing what would happen if the
US and Iran can’t resolve this.. As I’ve said, it would not be in our interest to
sink to this as things stand.

I neither support war with iran nor pander to those who do.

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By PatrickHenry, May 4, 2012 at 6:39 pm Link to this comment

tic,

By small weapons do you mean tanks, mobile AAA and surface to surface missles? or do you think they may resort to chemical or biological warfare if attacked by nukes?

Your trivalizing this potential conflict demonstrates your lack of knowledge of what you are pandering.

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By heterochromatic, May 4, 2012 at 6:44 am Link to this comment

Patsy—- after three weeks many of the iranian military will atill be alive and
defiant ans still will have small weapons and the ability to to fight in small groups.

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By PatrickHenry, May 4, 2012 at 3:24 am Link to this comment

The hubris of Centcom to think they can heel the Irani military in 3 weeks is astounding and mired in fiction.

I think the militarists know their time is short and they better create a big war and soon or their budget will be cut so more pressing matters here at home can be paid for.

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By heterochromatic, May 3, 2012 at 11:30 pm Link to this comment

Iran was invented a newer torpedo that travels at 1.5 times the speed of light.
prior to that they haven’t invented a damn thing of note since scaphism…...


fast torpedo technology is from Soviet Union and chess is very likely from the
vicinity of Iran and not from Iran itself.

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By americanme, May 3, 2012 at 5:30 pm Link to this comment

It may do nothing for you, but it will be a bonanza for the petroleum companies.

And after all Big Oil, Big Guns and Big Drugs call the shots for the US government (your hapless employer) to execute.

Duh.

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By heterochromatic, May 3, 2012 at 5:23 pm Link to this comment

Marian G——Then what?

—-

then what is exactly correct. Bombing iran will cause the Iranian people to rally
around the theocrats. It’s a victory for them and does little, nothing, or less for us.

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By americanme, May 3, 2012 at 11:41 am Link to this comment

The no-neck troll faking it and war-mongering all day and all night.

And stroking away as he spews his word salad of pott-talk.

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By Timothy, May 3, 2012 at 8:51 am Link to this comment
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Just a slight correction to someone who posted Iraqi casualty figures from Gulf War I.  Even the Wehrmacht didn’t snuff out 800,000 Soviets during the first two weeks of Barbarossa. 

Although if you factor in POW’s, and deserters, then that might be where you got the 800,000.

****


The exact number of Iraqi combat casualties is unknown, but it is believed to have been heavy. Some estimate that Iraq sustained between 20,000 and 35,000 fatalities.[99] A report commissioned by the U.S. Air Force, estimated 10,000–12,000 Iraqi combat deaths in the air campaign, and as many as 10,000 casualties in the ground war.[102] This analysis is based on Iraqi prisoner of war reports.

Saddam Hussein’s government gave high civilian casualty figures in order to draw support from the Islamic countries.[citation needed] The Iraqi government claimed that 2,300 civilians died during the air campaign.[citation needed] According to the Project on Defense Alternatives study, 3,664 Iraqi civilians, and between 20,000 and 26,000 military personnel, were killed in the conflict, while 75,000 Iraqi soldiers were wounded.[103]

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By Timothy, May 3, 2012 at 8:43 am Link to this comment
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Whenever it’s a case of having a war that does not extend beyond needing to drop bombs on a woefully outmatched opponent, who obligingly comes out into the open in order to get killed, the U.S military would be my first choice, every time.

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By Marian Griffith, May 3, 2012 at 3:16 am Link to this comment
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Assuming this is correct, and there is no real reason to doubt it as the Iranian military is not that much bigger or better equiped than the Iraqi, the Americans can bomb their military and its infrastructure into rubble in about three weeks.

Then what?

Trying to invade Iraq was an abject failure and those were people who had at least some degree of gratitude to be freed from a dictator.
Trying to invade Iran after you have just proven to be the ‘Great Satan’ that the state media has been painting the USA as for the last decades is not going to work. Right now the average Iranian is not particularly hostile towards the USA, anymore than the average Iraqi or Afghan was before they were ‘liberated’ by the mighty American war machine.
And like the citizens of those other countries they will come to hate the USA and all it stands for with shock and awesome speed once the bombs start falling and they see their cities, their infrastructure, their friends and family and their lives being shattered.

Even if the leadership of Iran did not espouse the idea of nuclear weapons initially, they must have now learned the lesson well that if you want to be safe from the USA you better have a nuclear arsenal.

(and no, I am not wearing rose tinted glasses when it comes to Iran and its leadership. I am however realistic regarding war and invasion making things much worse than they already are in that region. The USA policy is only creating more resentment and hostility towards itself and seems incapable of learning that lesson)

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By heterochromatic, May 2, 2012 at 7:37 pm Link to this comment

It took about three weeks to topple Saddam (and his statue)  it wouldn’t take any
longer to bomb the hell out of Iran’s military installations.


not a good idea, and it wouldn’t give us control of the country, but they’re telling
you what’s possible.

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By THX 1133 is not in the movie..., May 2, 2012 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment

“Amid the continuing U.S. military buildup in the
Persian Gulf, a defense source reportedly tells The
Washington Post that Pentagon strategists believe it
would take three weeks to pretty much wipe out Iran’s
military capability.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gee, where have we heard that before?

See, we just never learn; we only need a few years to
forget.
As George used to say, “Vusha day. It’s the feeling
you KNOW you’ve been here before.”

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By americanme, May 2, 2012 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment

Vector wrote:

“War is not a God Dam Game! War is a thug sliding a knife into your spleen and twisting it as he whispers “die bitch” in your ear!”

Sounds exactly like the nasty posts the no-neck directs at me every day.

War is obviously part of his masturbatory fantasy equipment.

And I suppose he thinks I don’t remember the sping the US media put on Fidel’s comment a coupe years ago—when they took it out of context and dropped what Cuban model modified, which was of communism.

Nobody does the old commie stuff anymore—not even in the Latin American communist parties.  Now it’s Twenty-first Century Socialism that’s the alternative to savage capitalism.

Fidel is a smart reflective man and a good student of history.

The thught that the no-neck puts his pathetic “divine messages” from his hebrew god up against Fidel’s reflective analysis is the ultimate in fatuity.

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By vector56, May 2, 2012 at 5:34 pm Link to this comment

During Gulf War I, we killed 800,000 Iraqi soldiers in about two weeks. Try and rap your mind around 800, 000 living, thinking breathing human beings being “snuffed out in two weeks.

When we attack Iran many will masturbate at the “awesomeness”  of our killing machine and pay never attention to the faceless human beings being ripped apart by our cluster bombs.

War is not a God Dam Game! War is a thug sliding a knife into your spleen and twisting it as he whispers “die bitch” in your ear!

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By heterochromatic, May 2, 2012 at 5:27 pm Link to this comment

Fidel is astute enough to admit that his Cuban socialism is a failure…..quite a few
years after everybody else in Cuba figured that out.


“The Cuban model doesn’t even work for us anymore.”

http://tinyurl.com/73rb6hv

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By americanme, May 2, 2012 at 5:03 pm Link to this comment

Why should I try anything?

I am not the ditzball who claims to live at Ground Zero—and it is mlore than highly unlikely that I will be touched even by the petal of a rose if your employers attack Iran.

And I’m not the bully shouting across the playground who will end up being laid for by three smaller boys and beaten senseless with a ball bat.

One of the most astute players on the board of geopolitics is Fidel, who has end run about a dozen US presidents and their assassinationplots against him.

If you want to know what’s really going on in the world, and have it presented well-contextualized, read Fidel’s Reflections.

Sure beats the hell out of limpwit writers and posters here on Canyadigitman.

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By heterochromatic, May 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm Link to this comment

the site is uskowioniran.com…....  the photos are from April 19 and 20th.


the photos and information on the annual parade can be foudnd elsewhere,
chica….


general info on Iran’s military equipment is widely available…try jane’s.

refusing to accept information…..and your practice of not supplying any sourced
info marks you as rather limited in probative value

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By wildthang, May 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm Link to this comment
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and the military finished it’s plans for invading Iraq just days before Saddam invaded Kuwait. We seem to be trying to provoke Iran. Similar to provoking Japan with an oil embargo leading up to Pearl Harbor, how could that have escaped notice?

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By americanme, May 2, 2012 at 4:22 pm Link to this comment

I do not open links.

Your inside “secrets” cut no ice with me.

They are just part of your sexual fantasy paraphernalia.

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By heterochromatic, May 2, 2012 at 4:18 pm Link to this comment

the info is Iranian, the photos Iranian, the site is iranian-run, bigoted little bit.

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By americanme, May 2, 2012 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment

More secret info from his hebrew god, no doubt….

Are there any non-psychotic white folks in the US?

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By heterochromatic, May 2, 2012 at 3:48 pm Link to this comment

Patsy—- Iran has annual parades where they flaunt their military equipment.

Iran Military Day Parade is in April….

http://www.uskowioniran.com/2012/04/iran-military-day-parade-2012-
1_19.html


enjoy their fine collection of vintage warplanes that we sold to the Shah.

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By americanme, May 2, 2012 at 3:39 pm Link to this comment

Patrick:

The Iranians have already BUILT a replica of the US drone they brought down.

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By americanme, May 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm Link to this comment

And the forked-tongue no-neck ALWAYS claims
to have been given secret information
about the countries and leaders
whom his employers have decided probably
“don’t have the interests of the US in mind ”
(George Tenet, 2002, referring to Hugo Chavez)

God speaks to him in his NYC masturbation cave—sort of like the archangel spoke to Mohammed….

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By americanme, May 2, 2012 at 3:33 pm Link to this comment

Heap big no-neck speak with forked tongue.

Maybe somebody got tired of hearing from his potty mouth and stuck that fork in his tongue to see if he was really done, or just sitting there rotting.

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By americanme, May 2, 2012 at 3:30 pm Link to this comment

I read that three weeks bully on the playground salvo, and laughed.

It reminded me of something I kept hearing 12 years ago, when a rightwing shitkicker exCocalCola executive named Vicente Fox was running for president of Mexico.

He said he’d solve the conflict in Chiapas in 15 minutes.

That conflict is still raging—in fact the sons of the paramilitaries who committed the massacre of indigenous people at Acteal in 1997 (for which ex-president Ernest Zedillo is being suit in a Connecticut court by survivors) are swaggering through the indigenous villages waving the weapons their fathers used to murder 43 women, children and elders.  The prisons of Chiapas are filled with political prisoners.  The army and the various evels of police forces still mount counter-insurgency operations (even when there is no isurgency).

So, bigmouth bully pentagon clowns:  Go for it!

In the words of Che Guevara:  Let’s have 1, 2, 3, 100 Vietnams.

Vietnam kicked the US’s ass out of there 37 years ago.  I guess that doorknob knocked what few grains of common sense they had out of the heads of the US military honchos.

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By PatrickHenry, May 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment

And how do you know this?  Read about it in your hasbara handbook somewhere?

The Iranians are advanced enough to take down one of our 5th generation stealth drones, or have you forgot?

http://siteground243.com/~hiram155/2012/05/01/has-iran-acquired-the-russian-s-300-air-defense-systemiran-army-gains-capability-to-intercept-redirect-enemy-missiles/

Foolish are those who have never fought in a war or served on the front lines to brag about the invincibility of the armed forces.  The fools pride of a chickenhawk.

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By heterochromatic, May 2, 2012 at 2:57 pm Link to this comment

the seapower carries airpower Patsy and Iran can’t defend against our planes and
missiles.

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By PatrickHenry, May 2, 2012 at 2:46 pm Link to this comment

All this seapower doesn’t add up to a hill of beans.

Look at tha map of Iran and the terrain, 9 millennia of people digging holes and hiding in them.

I think we have other things to worry about and it stinks like an issie op.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/30/raw-reports-nuclear-threat-from-germany/

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By heterochromatic, May 2, 2012 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment

Is this some sort of surprise? Iran has little in way of conventional military power
and is certainly unable to defend itself from a serious attack by the US or NATO
members.


The idea is to avoid a war with the theocrats and use alternate means to find some
sort of agreement with them where they’ll demonstrate that they’re truthfully
foregoing assembling nukes and we’ll convince them that nobody is going to
invade their land.

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By James Levy, May 2, 2012 at 12:24 pm Link to this comment
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These people are deluding themselves. Did they even notice that after Iraq’s conventional forces were destroyed, and despite years of bombing and sanctions, they still put up a determined resistance that went on for years, and that in a society hopelessly split along ethno/religious lines? Iran is three times as big and has a much larger, more homogeneous population. Do the morons in Washington really think that after we destroy a couple hundred aircraft and tanks, and a few dozen patrol boats, they are going to keel over and surrender unconditionally? Do they see that much (most?) of Afghanistan is still controlled by the Taliban? Where are the half a million plus soldiers needed to occupy Iran going to come from? Or are we just going to bomb the place until enough civilians get slaughtered to foment some phantom revolution against their government? And when, historically speaking, has that ever happened?

Our nation is governed by idiots and the military is dominated by hopeless, careerist nitwits.

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By SarcastiCanuck, May 2, 2012 at 12:19 pm Link to this comment
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Anyone remember Bush standing under the banner “Mission Accomplished”,on May 1st 2003.Doesn’t that seem about 9 years premature,and counting,at this point…

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By it's only Scott, May 2, 2012 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment

Son of Shock and Awe.

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