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Ear to the Ground

Pentagon: Americans Rescue More Iranians Stranded at Sea

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Posted on Jan 10, 2012
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The U.S. Coast Guard cutter Monomoy, pictured here, was apparently in on Tuesday’s rescue.

We were kidding Monday when we called for another dramatic rescue of Iranians on the high seas, but according to the Pentagon, members of the American military did it again Tuesday. Either our cynicism is getting more pronounced or the news cycle is becoming startlingly predictable.  —KA

BBC:

A US ship has picked up Iranians in trouble at sea, in the second such rescue in less than a week, the Pentagon has said.

US Coast Guard cutter Monomoy rescued six Iranian mariners after their vessel broke down in the Gulf.

One of the six had suffered burns and is receiving treatment, Pentagon spokesman George Little told reporters.

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By IMax, January 11, 2012 at 8:37 pm Link to this comment

blogdog,

I agree with you on the dying of cultures.  The information, the languages, which may be forever lost to the rest of the world.  The inherent connection to our surroundings and the rules of nature, I believe, is diminishing quickly.  Of course this is a never-ending phenomena from the beginning of time.  Thousands of cultures have come and gone through the ages. - The more people are connected, which can be very positive, the more homogenization of people and cultures.  But, then again, history tells us cultures war less when intermingling.

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U.S./Iranian relations.

The Iranian people, particularly the young (50% of the population) do not fear or hate Western culture or the United States. They see the effects openness brings to large numbers of people. - The good AND the bad. 

What I suggest is simplistic.  I grant that.  God as my witness it’s what I’ve found to be true.  Young Iranian men and woman hold a deep desire, even a surprising sense of entitlement, for Western jobs and the ability to hold hands in public.  They simply wish to hold hands when purchasing poultry within ten miles of their homes after working less than an hour to bring that meal to their families.  These are the things, they believe, the “West” has to offer.  Basic things they now don’t have which, it seems to me, nearly everyone on this Web site takes for granted throughout their entire day. - Harsh but true.

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The dichotomy is in how we can all see tens of thousands of Iranian men gathered and shouting Death To America.  Those scenes are rare nowadays, nonetheless, remain in the cultural mix.

Incredibly, to me anyhow, I’ve found that Westerners dislike the West a good deal more than most.  This includes Persians.

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By blogdog, January 11, 2012 at 6:22 pm Link to this comment

RE: ...The young in particular LOVE Western music, culture,... that’s everywhere in the
world for roughly a half century now and it’s our dreadful pop culture that’s infecting them

it’s at the core of anti-intellectualism and it’s made western culture virtually brain dead - it does
the same thing in the so-called 3rd world

in middle age 3rd world populations start coming to their senses, seeking out their traditional
artistic culture, realizing something precious is endangered, is slipping away and that they
themselves might die without ever learning their true heritage

happens here too but to a lesser degree - Americans in particular feel largely alienated by Euro-
American traditional fine art culture - many grasp for old-time folk and roots of one sort or
another, but few reach for fine art classics - their education has failed them

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By IMax, January 11, 2012 at 5:57 pm Link to this comment

Payson,

But for a small caveat I believe you are correct. 

It’s been my experience that both the American and Iranian people are savvy enough to differentiate between a general sense of fairness from the population and the policies of the other’s respective leadership.

I can think of only one way to single out the Persian culture.  They are some of the most hospitable people on earth.  The young in particular LOVE Western music, culture, sense of openness and JOBS.  They care nothing for the 1979 revolution. 

What I hear most from Iranians: “Bring on the same Western jobs India now enjoys!”

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By IMax, January 11, 2012 at 5:40 pm Link to this comment

PatrickHenry, - “Maybe the USCG should change their name to the US Navy.”

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You may be right.  It’s largely been this way since the early 1900’s.

Do something about it.

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By PatrickHenry, January 11, 2012 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment

IMax,

Maybe the USCG should change their name to the US Navy.

I pay the USCG to guard our coasts and interdict trafficers, save boaters, catch illegal commercial fishers, not save Iranian boaters.

I pay the U.S. Navy to patrol the oceans away from the U.S.coast.

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By mrfreeze, January 11, 2012 at 12:38 pm Link to this comment

Payson - Thanks for that…..As I said earlier, I’m always saddened that Iran is portrayed as our greatest enemy. It really didn’t have to be this way.

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By Payson, January 11, 2012 at 11:11 am Link to this comment

Unlike Iraq, Iran has a far greater potential for “friendship” with the United States. 
There is a a growing discontent with the political leadership and many Iranians
long for the more Western way of life they once had.  Our American leadership,
naturally, chooses to ignore these inconvenient truths in order to placate Israel
and our burgeoning war industry.  We should just ignore any diplomatic potential
in favor of incredibly risky sword rattling.  For extra measure, convince war
fatigued Americans of how noble we are by conveniently rescuing some poor
Iranians from mean Somali pirates!
It is completely ridiculous to continue this myth that the extreme religious
leadership of Iran represents its citizens or what they wish for in their country. 
That is like assuming that all Americans are like Michelle Bachman, own assault
rifles, abhor birth control and have a photo of Rick Santorum hanging above their
bed.

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By IMax, January 11, 2012 at 6:45 am Link to this comment

Some here will be surprised to learn the USCG has operated in international waters, thousands of nautical miles from U.S. ports, since 1913.  Since 2007 the DOG and DSF have deployed throughout the world in support of national interests and requirements as tailored and integrated force packages.  There is also a common but little followed matter of training of foreign naval forces abroad. - Happens all the time with little to no media interest.

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Within international waters the U.S. Navy and Coast Guard has logged 327 of these types of rescue operations in the past five years.  This too is common.

In light of Iran’s belligerence toward its neighbors and the international community, it’s no surprise the U.S. would put these more recent events front and center.

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By NZDoug, January 11, 2012 at 1:34 am Link to this comment

Happy quantonamo 10TH Anniversary!

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By blogdog, January 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm Link to this comment

could it be that BBC editors are so unfamiliar with the role of any nation’s ‘coast
guard’ as to not question its presence in foreign waters, especially half way around
the world from its home waters?

as for politicizing these incidents - should be expected - but, as anyone familiar
with life at sea knows, all mariners share a common bond to come to one
another’s aide regardless - against the forces of nature, reliability of equipment
and the fates, all are humbled

all politicians should be made to do two years before the mast

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By mrfreeze, January 10, 2012 at 10:57 pm Link to this comment

I’m always deeply saddened whenever the issue of Iran comes up in our ridiculous Amero-centric discussions. Many of my good friends are Iranians who, after the 1979 revolution were basically stranded here. It is one of the most tragic ironies of our modern history that we cannot get along with Iran. Theirs is a culture 5000 older than ours. They are a wonderful people who have far more in common with us than many of the middle-east cultures. Their problem is twofold: 1) they have the usual fucked-up religious idiots in charge of the government and 2) they harbor a justified mistrust of us due to the years of CIA meddling in their affairs.

Too bad, I’d love to visit Iran and be friends with them…...naive perhaps, but I like them in spite of their government.

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By gerard, January 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment

So it’s the Persian Coast Guard now?  Well, there
has to be some reason for keeping half an armada
cruising around there looking for trouble.

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By bilejones, January 10, 2012 at 6:55 pm Link to this comment
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Just like the latest “terrorist” Just-in-time manufacturing at its finest.

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By they call me the working man, January 10, 2012 at 5:51 pm Link to this comment

Who are they going to get to sign up for the Coast Guard and the National Guard now that they are sent to the other side of the world to engage in imperial conquest? I thought the main concept of them was to tap into a portion of the population that is averse to aggression but willing to organize and defend the country in case of invasion. This is more of that buying things with a credit card with no mind of how to pay for it, you know, conservatism.

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By Arabian Sinbad, January 10, 2012 at 5:40 pm Link to this comment

Well, even the war-monger establishment of the Pentagon deserves the benefit of the doubt if these two act of rescuing Iranians were purely done for humanitarian purposes, and not as propaganda theater as Haudenosaun states above.

Anyhow, if good will between these two antagonistic powers- Iran an USA, is to be given a chance, then these two rescue episodes can serve as the starting point. Ideally speaking, Iran should reciprocate by inviting the American rescue teams to visit Tehran and be publicly recognized and given medals of honor for their humanitarian gestures.

The question, however, remains: “If Iran were to take this hypothetical reciprocity step, would the Pentagon allow this to happen?!”

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By Ian, January 10, 2012 at 5:34 pm Link to this comment
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This feels so orchestrated. The pre-war PR campaign
in higher gear?  And I agree with PatrickHenry, what
the f*ck is our Coast Guard doing in those waters?

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By PatrickHenry, January 10, 2012 at 5:19 pm Link to this comment

Why is a US Coast Guard cutter over in the Persian ‘Gulf’ instead of the ‘Gulf’ of Mexico Patrolling US waters?

I hope these Iranians were caught off the Jersy shore.

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By bluecub, January 10, 2012 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment
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Hold them as spies…

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By Truth, January 10, 2012 at 3:26 pm Link to this comment
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So when is Obama going to state that they are all spys trying to compromise our military and issue death sentences?  Oh, he is NOT!  And that is the difference between Imanutjob fanatics and the US military who has saved these lives and offered food and care.

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By Haudenosaun, January 10, 2012 at 2:02 pm Link to this comment

Good theatre.  I’m not buying it.

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