A Leftist said:

Hats off to the judge! At least someone thinks we have LAWS.

except when the Occupiers insist that LAWS dont apply to them. In such cases we apparently dont have LAWS.

The Communist said:

This is what Slavoj Zizek means when he says we can still learn things from Lenin in the sense of not being afraid of forming a coherent, organized revolutionary vision to fight back. Yes, form the Soviets, branch out to the peasants and workers, create the storm, before it’s too late.

The Occupy movement is a first step in the Leninist playbook.

Do we want to go there?

No!!!

Never again! Never again!

dear rumblingspire,

step out of line.  i know you are there, trying to co-opt the military and the police. show courage.  step out of line.  tell the truth.

Just a brief summary of Occupiers’ accomplishments up to now =,even if they disband and never do another thing—and nonviolently, to boot!
  1.  They discovered and showed the effectiveness of “the people’s mic” giving a unified human voice to the previously voiceless people who were denied amplification by the (short-sighted) system.
  2.  The persistent but non-aggressive repetition of Berkeley students resisting police aggression by standing firm and shouting: “Don’t beat students!Don’t beat students!” effectively defused police aggression.
  3.  By including in camps and living with “street people” and coping with human waste without plumbing, etc. then being forcibly removed by police
and defamed by media as “dirty” “filthy” “health
hazards” etc. they pointed up (without preaching) the greater “filth” in the “system” of neglect, poor health and homelessness insituted by the greed of the 1%.
  4. Illustrating the use of human-friendly horizontal decision-making in contrast to top-down rule by self-appointed minorities.
  5. By the trashing of camps and filling dump trucks and hauling them off containing personal possessions that were publicly called “the detritus of democracy”, they permitted the point to be made that “trashing people” and hauling people off to jail in police busses is not all that different in intent or in result.
  6. They brought about occasional “defections” from the 1%, shown by official people of conscience who came forward alone to face personal losses, plus the public admissions of some police, unions and some media people as “part of the 99%” worked as public evidence of the fact that the line between
“sympathizers” and “opposition” is fluid and gradually moving toward support for the Movement—convictions to “go public” that are based on experiential evidence from “working inside the beast” , so to speak.
  By comparison, does anybody honestly think violence could have accomplished more, or in a better way in a shorter time?  Pretense of support, plus instigation toward violence seems to me a kind of double-dealing, yes-but-no support dubious in intention because self-contradictory, half-hearted, “let’s you and him fight” sort of attitude.
  Non-violence has worked pretty well so far, and ordinary people will welcome the fact that no blood is running in the streets and that the severe injury of one person by police, plus the arbitrary junking of the personal belongings of hundreds of others, does not make violence look too good.

We need to learn from our neighbors in Latin America. In Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina etc. the people rose up,held mass protests but ORGANIZED organs of popular movements ready to take power democratically and bring about real reforms, meanwhile the street movements were kept intact to apply needed pressure as seen recently in Bolivia. OWS is just an opening spark, to go all the way people must move beyond the slogans and generalized ideas and start seriously forming an alternative to smash the old order.

The capitalist state will not negotiate, it will not tolerate, it knows what it wants and is ruthlessly organized. This is what Slavoj Zizek means when he says we can still learn things from Lenin in the sense of not being afraid of forming a coherent, organized revolutionary vision to fight back. Yes, form the Soviets, branch out to the peasants and workers, create the storm, before it’s too late. OWS will either be the catalyst, or another repeat of the Spartacist uprising in Germany of January 1919.

If Americans had any gumption and sense of right and wrong, all of these people who are arrested would demand trials and after going thru the entire mockery of the legal system, a jury of their peers would find them innocent.  However, good luck to finding that unity or that sense among the flocks of sheep that inhabit this messed up nation.

The judge has upheld the City’s decision.  What a shocker!  A servant of the 1% siding with them.

When I was sent to Vietnam, I had my doubts to why we were were in Vietnam. Now it has finally become clear, I was sent to Vietnam so ass holes like Bloomberg can abuse people in our own country like we treated the Vietnamese!

Make that second livestream this instead:

http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

Livestream here:

http://occupystreams.org/item/occupy-nyc-liberty-plaza

And here:

http://capitalcorruption.com/

If we want to make progress we have to get off Facebook and get in the One
Percent’s face.

Many additional reports of Journalists being targeted
by police, although this was already in play.

“As the “Occupy Wall Street” protests have spread
across the United States, so too have arrests of
journalists seeking to cover the demonstrations.

The intimidation and harassment of reporters by
authorities has not been confined to widely-
publicised hotspots such as New York and Oakland,
Calif., but has moved into the heartland, with recent
arrests of journalists caught on video in Wisconsin
and Tennessee.”
http://www.trust.org/trustmedia/news/ipi-journalists-arrested-across-the-us/

Remember what happened to Amy Goodman during the
Republican Convention in Minneapolis.

Last Night:
“Andrew Katz, a journalism student at Columbia
University who was writing for the Web site The
Brooklyn Ink, said that the police “wouldn’t let us
get anywhere near Zuccotti.”

Rosie Gray, a writer for The Village Voice, recounted
telling a police officer, “I’m press!” She said the
officer responded, “Not tonight.”
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/reporters-say-police-denied-access-to-protest-site/

Of course it was to “protect them”.  They’re such liars.  Bloomberg is completely full of it and so is anyone else eschewing this garbage.

Hats off to the judge! At least someone thinks we have LAWS.

It seems to me that the first thing they’ll need is support. To donate (if you don’t already have the link):
http://occupywallst.org/donate/

Screw Bloomberg, he should pay for all the property he’s destroyed.