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O’Donnell: ‘We Have Always Been in Charge’

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Posted on Sep 17, 2010
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Delaware Republican Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell gestures while delivering her speech at the Values Voter Summit in Washington on Friday.

There was a lot of talk about “us” and “them” in tea party favorite Christine O’Donnell’s speech at the ultra-conservative Values Voter Summit in Washington on Friday—but does that come as any surprise?  —KA

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The tea party’s latest darling, Delaware GOP Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell, aligned herself squarely with the Republican Party’s social conservative base Friday in criticizing Democrats and “ruling class elites” in her first national appearance since her upset primary victory.

“They’re trying to marginalize us and put us in a box,” O’Donnell said to cheers. “They’re trying to say we’re trying to take over this party or that campaign. They don’t get it. We’re not trying to take over our country. We are our country. We have always been in charge.”

It wasn’t clear whether she was talking about the tea party or the conservative movement or both. But it didn’t seem to matter to the friendly crowd at the annual Values Voters Summit just days after she shocked the GOP with her upset of nine-term Rep. Mike Castle.

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By Inherit The Wind, September 19, 2010 at 5:29 pm Link to this comment

SteveL, September 19 at 2:29 pm Link to this comment

Really missing something here.  What is so attractive about destroying social
security and giving billionaires tax breaks?

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Ya got me.  However, there’s one clue:
Something like 22% of all Americans self-describe themselves as being among the top 1% of income earners!

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By Night-Gaunt, September 19, 2010 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment

You need to ask the Regressives that question. However, I can say that for them the wannabes are told by those who are closer to it or are already millionaire/billionaire in the hopes of becoming that. Like those who play the lottery or go to Las Vegas time and again. There are authoritarian leaders and followers. Many of these are the authoritarian followers. Suffering is good and handouts, for any reason are bad.

Please report back with you findings and see if it jibes with my analysis.

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By SteveL, September 19, 2010 at 10:29 am Link to this comment

Really missing something here.  What is so attractive about destroying social
security and giving billionaires tax breaks?

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By Maani, September 19, 2010 at 8:33 am Link to this comment

Maureen Dowd absolutely skewers O’Donnell (and also takes a shot at Obama):

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/opinion/19dowd.html?ref=opinion&pagewanted=print

Peace.

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By Kath Cantarella, September 19, 2010 at 12:04 am Link to this comment
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It seems you Yanks are breeding a lot of little Hitlers, ridiculous ones, like Charlie Chaplin’s version.

If this O’Donnell idiot actually gets in, I’ll start to be concerned. Beck, Palin and O’Donnell belong in sitcoms. Anyone with half a brain wouldn’t let them into a neighbourhood watch meeting let alone the Senate of the most powerful nation on earth. It’s saying something that I’m sort of glad China is quickly overtaking you in that respect. Yes, China, with it’s egregious human rights record…. you guys have fallen that low since Reagan and his pro-corporate ‘genius’ handed control of the country (and the world) to creepy items like the Fox News crew, Halliburton honchos, and the Lockheed-Martin cheerleaders. Talk about human rights abuse.
We need to break up those big evil f*ckers. That’s why you have tea-party nutjobs sucking angry people in. It’s like Ratzinger calling for the world to embrace ‘faith’ while a huge group of survivors of Catholic child-abuse are screaming for justice behind his shoulder. People will tell you to go eff yourself every single time.
And rightly so.

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By Inherit The Wind, September 18, 2010 at 5:37 pm Link to this comment

Fat Freddy, September 18 at 8:03 pm Link to this comment

That’s really disgusting and you ought to be ashamed to post that!

Hey! It could be worse. I could have gone all “Pink Flamingos” on your ass.
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Now THAT was gross, even before the ending….Divine was, well, anything BUT divine—but he was funny!  (Remember Lust in The Dust with him, Tab Hunter and Lainie Kazan, by the guy who made Eating Raoul?)

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By Napolean DoneHisPart, September 18, 2010 at 5:36 pm Link to this comment

I’m not in favor of this gal either way or what have you… just pointing out the possibility that she’s just financially savvy, which WE ALL can learn from to defend ourselves…. for that is the tool of enslavement, the dollar, is it not?

I still kinda trust Ron Paul for some reason, I just don’t think he could screw us after NOT screwing Texas for some time now.  Am I wrong?

If it takes this tea party to propel Ron or someone seemingly trustworthy into a seat of real power…. we need to introduce a bill with a stipulation in which these shysters can be sacked at first misstep / contradiction to their campaign pledges… NO MATTER WHAT.  Or a complete inquiry into reasons for failure or incapability ( for example, blowing open all the books of the FED and finally restoring a sovereign currency that cannot be fluctuated and printed at-will.

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By Night-Gaunt, September 18, 2010 at 4:21 pm Link to this comment

Nice quotes FRTothus!

By FiftyGigs, September 18 at 11:07 am Link to this comment

I like that term “regressive”, although I think that gives them way too much credit. O’Donnell is simply an opportunist, someone so sure the government is awful that she’s making the task of drawing a paycheck from it her career.

NO need to be supercilious, “Regressive”, coined by David Michael Green, see http://www.regressiveantidote.net/ for what he has to say on his web site. Because these people don’t like the modern times, at least in relation to individual freedoms and social mores. They would prefer a theocracy, but with modern weapons of the authoritarian surveillance state at their disposal. Remember Buckley‘s famous quote from 1950 about change being told to “stop!”? He posited a need for a totalitarian state (in the USA) to manage any problems caused by an open society that would be weak, in his eyes, to the USSR an China’s own closed ones.

You do not vote to become a slave and removal of a right isn’t the same as acknowledging one already there. We seem to be getting both of them here, by those who wish to enslave us by any means used. Including interconnected items forced upon us and laws too complicated to fully understand.

Gmonst openly fascist, yes. But those behind it , and the Democrats too, are under their sway. This goes back to 1934 when the super rich almost took over our country directly with the “Business Coup.” If it hadn’t been for their poor choice of military leaders, we could have been on the Axis side and the Allies would have lost World War II! They failed but not punished so they constructed a long term means of taking down the Republic by overwhelming the system and corrupting it. There are six mega-corps that essentially run the US gov’t. Our gov’t now can’t run without corporate help! All in their multi-generational plan it seems.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/173530/flight-from-death-the-quest-for-immortality target=0>Flight From Death: The Quest for Immortality</a>.

Do it right and you address will activate. Do it wrong and it just sits there.

True enough Fat Freddy,, I heard recently Ron Paul was dis-invited or not invited from one to speak.

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By Fat Freddy, September 18, 2010 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment

That’s really disgusting and you ought to be ashamed to post that!

Hey! It could be worse. I could have gone all “Pink Flamingos” on your ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7WNHhcdjkg&feature=related

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By Inherit The Wind, September 18, 2010 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment

Hey, Napoleon: She also claimed she had a college degree for years before she actually got it.  We are talking about a congenital liar here in this candidate.

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By Napolean DoneHisPart, September 18, 2010 at 2:09 pm Link to this comment

If she claims to make only $5800 in ‘taxable’ income, she knows what she’s doing!!!!!

Folks, the FED is NOT your friend.  And most agencies stemming from that system is there to further sift you…

She knows what she’s doing if for example she ‘earns’ or makes $100k in one year NET… then starts to account for the expenses of doing business, the travel, the cars, etc… beginning to chip away at the net and use receipts to show how you’ve stimulated the economy further… and make investments that fiscal year and end up with only $5800 ‘taxable’ income…

She has nontaxable income, which again, folks should be asking ‘how can they also do that’ instead of saying ‘oh she is cheating the system’ or this gem of ignant ( ignorant ) saying- ‘they are not paying their fair share of taxes.’

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By Inherit The Wind, September 18, 2010 at 12:39 pm Link to this comment

Fat Freddy, September 18 at 3:16 pm Link to this comment

It’s funny, because the Tea Parties were started by Ron Paul and his supporters, the Campaign for Liberty. Sarah Palin and her religious, socially conservative, war mongering ilk have hijacked the “movement”, the same way a case of the flu can hijack a good bowel movement with diarrhea
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That’s really disgusting and you ought to be ashamed to post that!
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It’s also true and FUNNY AS HELL! (LMAO!)

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By purplewolf, September 18, 2010 at 12:05 pm Link to this comment

Okay, Christine claims she only made $5,800 last year. That qualifies her for food stamps, especially since she has had such a hard time making ends meet according to her. Another Christian liar parading around as a politician?

Her narrow views and claims of less government interference are lies. She wants to ban even masturbation and make it illegal. The only way I can think of that would make it doable is by rigging some type of microdot camera system to each persons privates or hands or both and then have some stranger monitor the screens in their massive secret buildings, like the NSA building Bush had built and when someone attempts to relieve the stress that everyday living causes, the gestapo tea party anti-pleasure patrol hauls you off to one of those FEMA camps that Michelle Bachman claims that Obama built even though it was Bush who did that. Then, after stylizing themselves after the radical religious groups in other countries they complain about, they cut off your hands like they do in other countries when you steal something.Because we all have been told that according to their God, masturbation is a sin against God.

The tea party, if elected into office will make the Salem witch hunts and trials seem like a cakewalk. Let the torture begin!

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By Napolean DoneHisPart, September 18, 2010 at 11:48 am Link to this comment

FRTothus, you said it in your first posting.. kudos.

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By RayLan, September 18, 2010 at 11:32 am Link to this comment

Let’s call it ‘voter nullification’ making nonsense out of the democratic process - at least of the two party system. The extreme right whether they are Tea Party or otherwise, want to nihilistically sabotage the political machine. On the surface, it’s an anarchist move, except they don’t want to dismantle government, they just want it to serve ‘their America’ - namely a greedy xenophobic corporatocracy-
on a global mission to remake the world in their image.

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By Fat Freddy, September 18, 2010 at 11:16 am Link to this comment

It’s funny, because the Tea Parties were started by Ron Paul and his supporters, the Campaign for Liberty. Sarah Palin and her religious, socially conservative, war mongering ilk have hijacked the “movement”, the same way a case of the flu can hijack a good bowel movement with diarrhea.

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By culheath, September 18, 2010 at 9:46 am Link to this comment

An interesting perspective on what is really the core (and mostly unconscious) motivation for these teabagger/religious atavistic types can be found in the documentary running on Hulu right now called a href=“http://www.hulu.com/watch/173530/flight-from-death-the-quest-for-immortality” target=“0”>Flight From Death: The Quest for Immortality</a>.

People who invest the most in anti-death palliatives like religion and group identity are the most subject to negative reactions to anything which is perceived as challenging or threatening those palliatives. Check it out.

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By omop, September 18, 2010 at 9:40 am Link to this comment

Since Bill Kristol only respects Sarah Palin and Christine
O’ is no Sarah Palin uncle Zeb in the Ozarks is voting
Newt. His reasoning is Newt is the only one that can tell
the difference between a Kenyan and a Ugandan.

Am so it goes in Taliban country.

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By Gmonst, September 18, 2010 at 9:26 am Link to this comment

Bill Maher, had a great clip of her on his show last night, apparently she has been on his old show 22 times and he has many doozies which he vows to play each week.  Last night’s was a clip of her describing how the first time she got laid was on a satanic altar.  Like Sarah Palin, she seems to be a joke at best.  I just can’t believe these people are actually getting votes.  Yet they are, and gaining in popularity. 

I am certainly concerned by this trend of mythologizing idiots, celebrating ignorance if it were some kind of valuable trait.  As if knowledge and worldliness are a defect.  This tea-party movement should be taken seriously, and everyone should get out and vote.  Make sure none of these kookie folksy folks make it to major leadership positions.  You can talk about democrats vs republicans all you want, how both parties are the same, corporate controlled, etc.  Just know that this tea-party movement represents a new breed, they are not politics as usual, and I think if given power we would all be dreaming of the times of politics of usual.  They will be effective, inaction may be better than their action. 

I was watching a show on the Taliban the other day, and one comment struck me is that they were not interested in running Afghanistan, they had no plan for running a government, they were interested only in purity.  The tea-party movement seems to have much of the same character.  It doesn’t really have a coherent plan for governance, but is a quest for ideological purity, a “real America.” Regressive indeed, they would like to take us to a mythologized time which never really existed, a time of American Purity which exists only in their minds.  These people could be very dangerous because quests for purity don’t have to be logical, they don’t have to give adequate reason, and they can be very cruel to those who are not “pure” according to whatever measure.  This movement is the start of a fascist party in America.

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By FiftyGigs, September 18, 2010 at 9:03 am Link to this comment

“The house is on fire. Only a fool worries that the water to put it out is polluted and won’t use it.”

That really is brilliantly said.

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By FRTothus, September 18, 2010 at 8:17 am Link to this comment

Well said, FiftyGigs, very well said.  And thanks for
the thanks.  I find that I agree with much, if not
all, of what you have posted, here and elsewhere.

...and ITW, I agree.  “Radical Reactionary
Regressives” is much better descriptor.  And as far
as being less “catchy”, may I suggest “The 3 R’s” or
even the “RRR’s” which, when said aloud, sounds a lot
like the laughter that ought to meet their backward
and self-serving agenda.  I like your spirit.  We
truly are all in this together, and we cannot afford
to leave any of our friends and allies behind.  We
need to recognize our common enemies, and not be
afraid to join together to the fight the good fight,
and fight we must.  There is so much at stake.  “We”
are who we have been waiting for.

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By Big B, September 18, 2010 at 7:53 am Link to this comment

You know, the word “Pinhead” is thrown around alot now-a-days…..

Wasn’t Reagan a pinhead? Bush II?

Stay tuned. The American landscape could look very interesting by 2013. What will you do when the jak-booted, arm-banded, brown shirted Jesus police kick your door down and haul you off in irons for not watching Fox news, and of course, being a chronic masturbater?
And god help you if they find a copy of Mother Jones, or (gulp) anything written by Vonnegut or Updike.

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By Inherit The Wind, September 18, 2010 at 7:40 am Link to this comment

Thanks Maani.

The term “Regressive” is certainly better and more accurate than “Conservative” which is about as properly used as the phrase “Behind him/her one-thousand percent!” (100% is the maximum you can be behind someone).

But more accurate still is the less catchy “Radical Reactionary” because they ARE reactionary and they are radicals about it.  That’s why they are SO dangerous.

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By PatrickHenry, September 18, 2010 at 7:17 am Link to this comment

I for one am happy to see a nine term congresscritter go down in flames, I wish it was Steny Hoyer, apoligist and agent for the current Israeli government.

I don’t know anything about O’Donnell except she is pretty and will go far with that in the horndog congress.  I hope she isn’t a Palin clone as one of those is too many and Palin represents a quitter philosophy.

We need to start with a new slate across the board.

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By Maani, September 18, 2010 at 7:11 am Link to this comment

ITW:

“When a radical, religious minority with a take-no-prisoners world view takes control of a nation, you get a Taliban, a Likud, or an Islamic Counsel.

“This is what the new Sarah Palin, O’Donnell is promising us.  Government won’t be off our backs, it will be on it 1000x worse because SHE believes you CAN legislate morality.  And when she and her fellow tea-baggers get to the Senate, they won’t kow-tow to McConnell, they’ll attack, attack, attack, until the GOP leadership caves in and is fully taken over by the Teaparty.

Unless we realize that ANY Democrat is always better.  The house is on fire.  Only a fool worries that the water to put it out is polluted and won’t use it.”

Wow.  That is it in a nutshell; the most concise way to explain the situation.  It should be must reading for everyone.  I am going to disseminate this to all and sundry because it really nails it in three short paragraphs.

Bravo!

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By FiftyGigs, September 18, 2010 at 7:07 am Link to this comment

I like that term “regressive”, although I think that gives them way too much credit. O’Donnell is simply an opportunist, someone so sure the government is awful that she’s making the task of drawing a paycheck from it her career.

She’s merely a sideshow, I think, a warm-up to the true Battle Of 2012, which will be Sarah Palin vs Elizabeth Warren.

Sara Palin believes in a system, period. A system in which “anyone” like her can vault themselves from the obscurity of the cold north to fame and fortune. Her particular tactic was to parade before men in a swimming suit, while maneuvering for a tv spot, putting her literally on the stage. She’s still parading in front of men, though now graduated to tight leather.

This is her view of equal opportunity. Anyone who is similarly comfortable like her with divorcing her values from her behavior can “make it” in America. Gingrich spoke that philosophy plainly. Limbaugh was one of the first to exhibit it, personally displacing hundreds of midday deejays from the stage in the process.

What she is blind to is the fact that not everyone wants to be like her, nor do they believe in the values of a Todd Palin that Alaska should secede from the union… except now, because things are going so well for him.

That’s what makes them conservative. They are defenders of the system. From their perch, everyone is equally free to game it.

In contrast, there are those who believe in responsibility along with the principles of liberalism, like Elizabeth Warren, who starts from the premise that “we, the people” are free to organize the system to serve the greater good.

Within the battle lies the perennial liberal paradox: are we free to elect or tolerate people who demand the freedom to destroy freedom?

You would think the proverbial “fire in a theater” analogy would resolve most issues, except we seem to continually revisit the fine print. Like when a conservative kook minister (note bene) decides to burn the Quran. Is a minister free to be the cause the death of American soldiers? The answer should be obvious, but in that case the liberal answer appeared to be “Yes”.

In O’Donnell’s case, should the federal government force a raped nun to birth the rapist’s child? O’Donnell expects the system to do that, and puts the responsibility upon the nun to make lemonade.

Liberal thought today seems to be that freedom is something that should exist only as long as conservatives want it to.

And so, we are left to cross our fingers and hope that O’Donnell is defeated… until the next, more virulent one comes along.

My hope is that Elizabeth Warren and Barack Obama (and Al Frankin and Alan Grayson and many more) are the leading edge of a new and long-lasting liberal wave in this country, the resurgence of the decades dormant dream that we are not merely contenders in a game for a few coveted affluent seats at society’s head table, but that we are equal people, free to pursue goals and values other than money, without being oppressed by the monied.

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By FRTothus, September 18, 2010 at 5:57 am Link to this comment

It’s all about framing.  They are not
“conservatives”, they are Regressives.  The sad fact
is, “We, the People” have never been in charge.  “We”
have always had the elites running things, been a
party to the lie that the elites will somehow betray
their own narrow, selfish class interests and will,
upon taking office, represent those they loathe. 
When has the State EVER taken the side of Labor in a
dispute, EVER sent in the storm troopers to defend
strikers against the owners for onerous working
conditions or abusive practices, EVER supported a
living wage for the underpaid and overworked?  What
gains “We” have made have been fought and opposed at
every turn by the elites that have been proffered up
as our alleged “representatives”.

“To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied
upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated,
enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled,
checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by
creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom
nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at
every operation, at every transaction noted,
registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured,
numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished,
prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished.
It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the
name of the general interest, to be place[d] under
contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited,
monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed;
then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of
complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified,
harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed,
bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot,
deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown
all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged,
dishonored. That is government; that is its justice;
that is its morality!”
(P.-J. Proudhon)

“The State is the organized authority, domination,
and power of the possessing classes over the masses
the most flagrant, the most cynical, and the most
complete negation of humanity. It shatters the
universal solidarity of all men on the earth, and
brings some of them into association only for the
purpose of destroying, conquering, and enslaving all
the rest. This flagrant negation of humanity which
constitutes the very essence of the State is, from
the standpoint of the State, its supreme duty and its
greatest virtue. Thus, to offend, to oppress, to
despoil, to plunder, to assassinate or enslave one’s
fellowman is ordinarily regarded as a crime. In
public life, on the other hand, from the standpoint
of patriotism, when these things are done for the
greater glory of the State, for the preservation or
the extension of its power, it is all transformed
into duty and virtue. This explains why the entire
history of ancient and modern states is merely a
series of revolting crimes; why kings and ministers,
past and present, of all times and all countries —
statesmen, diplomats, bureaucrats, and warriors — if
judged from the standpoint of simply morality and
human justice, have a hundred, a thousand times over
earned their sentence to hard labor or to the
gallows. There is no horror, no cruelty, sacrilege,
or perjury, no imposture, no infamous transaction, no
cynical robbery, no bold plunder or shabby betrayal
that has not been or is not daily being perpetrated
by the representatives of the states, under no other
pretext than those elastic words, so convenient and
yet so terrible: “for reasons of state.”
(Mikhail Bakunin)

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By Inherit The Wind, September 18, 2010 at 5:41 am Link to this comment

When a radical, religioius minority with a take-no-prisoners world view takes control of a nation, you get a Taliban, a Likud, or an Islamic Counsel.

This is what the new Sarah Palin, O’Donnell is promising us.  Government won’t be off our backs, it will be on it 1000x worse because SHE believes you CAN legislate morality.  And when she and her fellow tea-baggers get to the Senate, they won’t kow-tow to McConnell, they’ll attack, attack, attack, until the GOP leadership caves in and is fully taken over by the Teaparty.

Unless we realize that ANY Democrat is always better.  The house is on fire.  Only a fool worries that the water to put it out is polluted and won’t use it.

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By Antonio Lorusso, September 18, 2010 at 2:12 am Link to this comment
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“ruling class elites”

The right wing’s best con trick on the american people
is to pretend that they are not also part of the ruling
class elite.

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By Maani, September 17, 2010 at 10:42 pm Link to this comment

Can we really trust ANYONE who doesn’t masturbate?  LOL.

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By Hammond Eggs, September 17, 2010 at 6:43 pm Link to this comment

O’Donnell is a flat out cretin and that makes her, politically, a winner in the present day United States.

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By Napolean DoneHisPart, September 17, 2010 at 6:04 pm Link to this comment

I like the attitude “we’ve always been in charge”

But minority America will soon ‘take charge’ of the Amerikan Empire, or what is left of it.

Yet the old guard will still ‘own’ the country, its resources and its labor force until the faith in money and blind allegiance to Walmart / McDonalds and the like is broken… and when people look to each other and invest in each other ( ignoring big corp by not working for big corp), lend to each other ( ignoring big banks and not playing by their standards any longer ), feed each other ( local community farming non-chemically and lab enhanced food and produce ), vote and have faith in each other ( getting to know your neighbors, even in the cities ).

Amerika will morph once again.

Question is: Will THIS be the CHANGE ( this tea party and hard-lined bible thumping folk ) be the change this country has been waiting for? 

We shall see if today’s promises are met tomorrow after their election… if not, FIRED….. no waiting another term and for another ‘hope’

We need to stop this repetitive madness of electing new hopefuls, chastising them when we find out their are just like the rest… ( with very few exceptions ) yet suffering their whole term and watch them make things worse.. and then try and ‘vote’ in another henchman / clone of the previous droid- clone- idiot- talking head do nothing different- keep the chattel docile- minstrel.

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