rfidler

You do what I should, but avoid and that is read the right wing
stuff to at least keep up with that side of the arguments as I do
realize that this isn’t just ‘left’ vs ‘right’, there are a myriad degree
of each which can even at some points agree.

And because I use truthdig so much I must actually base my
thoughts on the left which can be nauseating also, just go to the
‘sorry state of the union’ post and read through some of the
comments there.

samo:

Of course the msm wouldn’t be the msm if they did anything other than provide us with bread and circuses. It’s their job.

I listen to and read a lot of right wing stuff, needless to say, and their complaint is the same as yours regarding the msm- just from the other side of the spectrum. For instance, they are as apoplectic about Keith Olbermann as you probably are about Glenn Beck.

There really are grains of pepper in all the fly shit. You just have to let your heart figure out what’s what.

rfidler,

You’re welcome as I too have the concern of so many people
really saying the same thing but arguing about it all and getting
nowhere, kind of like trying to build a better mouse trap
forgetting the better mouse trap is the one that caught the
mouse.

Which shows me how well too many people are delusioned by
the msm.

samo:

I really appreciate your thoughtful response. REALLY. I wish more td-ers could just calm down and post rational thoughts about what to do about things that bug them, rather than just rage and rage.

Good luck to you.

By rfidler, January 27 at 4:06 pm

By what you say, I would say we both have similar attitudes and concerns about this country and I am NOT delusional about the U.S.A. and the dire straights it is in and all under the governmental and elitist delusion that this is still a very well
functioning republic democracy.

I am very pissed off about what is the corporate msm handling of that large enough segment of the people that maintains a stupidity and ignorance which prevents a even slight hint in this part of the people the ability to recognize real issues as they exist and will happen.

I would think you would know what samosamo is, the same old crap coming from the people WE elect and who promptly turn around to welcome the lobbyist who are actually criminals bribing the people we elect and now all 3 branches of OUR
government are infected with the same old routine of personal gain from being elected to office.

I am unemployed or maybe a better description is that I am semi-retired and living off of my savings from the job I was severed from just 2 years ago so relax n the idea that you are paying for my existence, I just hope in another year and
a half to collect S.S. which I have paid into for 40 years or so, if it is still there.

I feel threaten by the somnolent public, via the conservative MSM, and the idea that as much as I try to believe in this internet system and what gets out to those of us that use it for information, far too much that is pertinent never reaches
those that it should.

Meaning that breaking up the 4 or 5 owners of the msm is top most priority to me to get real information to people instead of the crappy infotainment that is constantly pumped out to keep the comfortably numb and space cadet glow feeling that it produces.

I fear that this country will have to actually break for it to come back to something better as the status quo right now is too easy to rely on for far too many people.

Public money (taxes), it is sickening to see the GRAND LARCENY that is so rampant and the ‘drunken sailor’ spending spree our government is on and on that I am not delusional because as you should know, it would not take but the saudis to start trading oil in euros or china and japan to call in our debt for our
economy to fail before the stock market closed on any given day.

Refreshing to read that you ‘don’t hate me’ and I would say the same to you but I also don’t look or hope not to see a total lock step in our thoughts and views but I have say being a ‘proxy’ isn’t what I want.

Running long so I am through.

samo:
I don’t hate you.

You, sir, are the one who is delusional about the nature of this country.

You told me in a previous post that you were unemployed.

“...mask of a moniker…” That’s rich coming from you. Is “samsamo” your real name?

I’m really not attacking you personally. I’m using you as a proxy (I miss folktruther!) for all the whiny, rage-against-the-machine posters on truthdig who are experts at bitching about how horrible the US is and who’s to blame, but have NOT ONE coherent, sensible(!), workable(!!!) suggestion about how to fix it. (“Soak the rich” is NOT a solution. Dismantle the Defense Department is NOT a solution.)

Believe me, the existence of taxpayers is no delusion. The existence of tax leeches is no delusion. You must be a leech because you feel threatened by the prospect of Obama’s spending cuts. I, on the other hand, welcome them. It’s MY money he’s spending.

What a statement fiddler, you so pompously pronounce your
delusional view of this country and try to include me as a drain
on your tax dollars when you have no way of knowing what or
who I am, what I have or don’t have, how I am your burden; and
I think with your personal attacks on me, it only reveals you of
your displeasure of thinking that you know me personally and
hate the idea of my heart beating and your hate for me I would
say has no bounds and I would hope to never have to experience
being around someone like you but I imagine you think the
same because is it so convenient to say what you do behind the
mask of a moniker and the comfort of not being exposed of
your true identity.

samo:
I don’t despise you. The only reason I care at all about your existence is that I’m paying for it with my tax dollars, and that you have the gall to whine for more instead of going out and finding a way to contribute instead of being a leech.

Ah, fiddler, antagonist to the end, your hubris just can’t let
anyone you despise get by with trying to give an opinion and
lord forbid I misspelled one of your prized heros whom I
could not have cared if I had, instead of misspelling just one
letter, misspelled it ‘shit or traitor or subversive’ but not to
worry, I can understand when you have to buy from sammy’s
shops but I wonder, has wally world taken up the ‘blue light
specials’ to draw your wallet to their register?

But pardon me, I spent more time wasted on acknowledging
your existence than is worth the syphilitic whore of your choice.

samo:

It’s “Walton,” Sam Walton. Not ‘walden’.

Go ahead, boycott Rolex. Like you have a choice. You need a job to be able to afford a Rolex.

I’d worry too about Obama cutting spending if I were you. That government tit you’re so addicted to might just get too small for you to nuzzle up to.

Suggestion- spend more time looking for a job, and less time surfing the web. We’ll all be better for it.

By stellarwinds, January 26 at 12:06 am

Bringing ameriKa to its knees is as simple as stop shopping at
wal-mart and its branch stores like sam’s club and there are
plenty of comments here saying to boycott business but I bet if
only wal-mart and its sibling stores are boycotted, that would
get a lot of attention, but too many are addicted to walden’s
chain of stores so maybe look for something else to boycott, like
rolex watches.

After Obama gave it all away to the military-mercenary complex, the financial
institutions and banks, and (almost) to the insurance industry, Obama is going
to quickly ‘freeze’ spending to limit services for the middle class.

This man, his advisors and his policies must be replaced by a Democrat. End
Republican Lite; Begin Real Democrat.

This is ‘middle class’ baloney is a sorry charade. If he wanted to help the
middle class, he’s had a year to do it. Instead he’s given away the store and left
the middle class holding the bag.

This is a disgrace.

SusanSunflower,
  Your opening line is perfect.  So much for the folks on Main Street and Broadways of the USA….

stellarwinds:

You sound like Glenn Beck

The liberal class can argue whether the beloved Obama is war hawk or not, but the fact is, ever since those CIA agents were blown up by their own double agent, the predator robot drone assassinations have been ramped up, way beyond even what Baby Bush called for. Apparently, this new (and getting old very quick) administration endorses the idea of collective punishment for anyone who dares to resist American occupation of their countries.
Billions of dollars are continuously stuffed down this rat hole, and none of Obama’s “change we can believe in” followers have the guts to expose his cowardly excuses that permit this to continue. Instead, so many try to rationalize actions that are totally insane and watch as the world’s resources, of all kinds, are wasted for the sake of this abstract murderous enterprise. Toynbee was correct: militarism is always the greatest threat to human civilization.

what a shyster that egocentic oreobama!

no cash left for the unemployed and down on their luck:
let’s freeze them…

we already gave it to those who have everything and caused all this.

this is in pure, in your face neocon ultra laissez faire BS

isn’t clear to everyone by now that obama does exactly the opposite of his rethoric, that’s called being a liar and a scam artists.  His game is a confidence game.

he is just as illegitimate as if he had stolen an election.

he must be removed, now.

When I first read this, I was happy. I thought Obama was going to finally take on the massive war machine complex in the USA, even by just freezing their huge budget along with the others.

Then I read he will exempt the more the half of discretionary spending that is laughingly called “National Defense”.

I wish McCain had won. If he proposed what Obama has done, progressives would have screamed and protested. I have to hand it to the big Corporations, they really fooled the American people with the last election. They put one of their boys in charge, and now no one will challenge Obama the right wing Republican, because he is black, or half-black.

Its time to find a new Democrat to back for 2014. I say Ralph Nader, who warned us that Gore and Obama were fake.

right and next month he’ll announce a tax cut ... if he can bear to wait that long ...

Announcing and/or leaking this 48 hours before the State of the Union allows that proverbial “lie” to get around the globe more times than anyone can count ... before the “truth” of this proposal even gets out of the can ...

Reports seem to be that nothing “important” including stimulus funds will be cut ...

So expect cries of “window-dressing” and “meaningless gesture” before breakfast tomorrow.

The spending freeze is a bad idea at a time when unemployment is over 10 percent.  It teaches the public the wrong lesson about economics.  Spending should be increased to deal with stagnation. (Remember the stimulus.)  Cutting spending exacerbates the problem.  That is the lesson of the Great Depression.  Countercyclical policies need to be pursued.

Cut the military budget.
Close half of all off-shore bases. Put the other half to a civilian review panel.
Open all CIA books and programs to civilian review.
Abolish the NSA.
Let a civilian accounting committee at the GAO.
There’s a small start.
I think we could find the money.

trillions for banksters…

trillions for pentagon and its occupation of Haiti and, today, start of protest and colored revoution in Venezuela, on top of Iraq, Af-Pak, Yemen, Somalia and soon…  IRAN !

but when it comes to anything for the little guy, poof, it’s all gone! there’s nothing left!

what’s worse, he’s setting this commission to dismantle Social Security and dismantle it and forward it all to wall street banksters!  in this filibuster proof fastrack “bipartisan” commission!

anyone still has any doubts that oreobama was a chosen instrument neocon ploy all along?

anything and everything bush couldn’t peddle because he was spent fuel, oreobama brings back to the fore!

wake up!

REVOLUTION NOW.

stop paying anything, taxes, loans, etc

get all cash left out of US$

leave uSSa if you can…

or take up arms!

democraps, rethugs, msm, corps and banksters are the enemy within.

let’s start decorating all these trees in DC and NY with strange fruits.

do not organize, you will be infiltrated,

individual initiative,

be clever, creative

bring ameriKa to its knees.

now.

yes we can!

Anyone still blindly believing Obama will transform into Jesus soon is simply insane. Period. This government is no different than the last two. The sooner so-called “liberals” get it, the sooner we can start thinking of alternatives to challenge the system as a whole.