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Obama Sending U.S. Troops to Uganda

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Posted on Oct 14, 2011
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LRA leader Joseph Kony at a meeting with Ugandan officials, lawmakers and representatives from NGOs in 2006 in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

President Obama announced Friday that he has ordered a “small number” of combat-ready U.S. soldiers—somewhere around 100, the BBC says—to help local forces in Uganda fight the Lord’s Resistance Army and its internationally wanted leader, Joseph Kony.

But lest anyone in the global community kick up a fuss about the U.S. as world policeman, Obama also pointed out in a release he composed for the occasion that the American troops joining the battle against the LRA will make good on their combat training only to defend themselves.  —KA

BBC:

Mr Obama did not provide any details about the deployment duration, but a US military spokesman later told the BBC that the “forces are prepared to stay as long as necessary to enable regional security forces to carry on independently”.

The force will use hi-tech equipment to assist in what analysts say is a “kill or capture” policy, the BBC’s Marcus George in Washington reports.

The deployment follows recent US legislation to help disarm the LRA and bring its leader to justice. The theory is, our correspondent adds, that without Joseph Kony, the movement will collapse from within.

At least 30,000 people died as the LRA spread terror in northern Uganda for more than 20 years, displacing some two million people.

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By heterochromatic, October 18, 2011 at 8:47 pm Link to this comment

no sweat. it wasn’t like I really felt it or nothin’.

Just figured I might guilt you into buying me a free lunch.

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By PatrickHenry, October 18, 2011 at 3:57 pm Link to this comment

My bad.

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By heterochromatic, October 18, 2011 at 3:48 pm Link to this comment

Yeah and you shouldn’t have stepped on my head when I was napping.

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By PatrickHenry, October 18, 2011 at 3:21 pm Link to this comment

heterochromatic,

That was you?

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By heterochromatic, October 18, 2011 at 3:05 pm Link to this comment

@ PatH,

sometimes I’m in the bar all day drinking beer, and forget that.

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By PatrickHenry, October 18, 2011 at 3:27 am Link to this comment

heterochromatic,

You know theres no such thing as a ‘free lunch’.

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By heterochromatic, October 17, 2011 at 9:38 pm Link to this comment

PatH—-and well they should, Pat, well they should.

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By PatrickHenry, October 17, 2011 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment

heterochromatic,

I don’t really know what people living in Africa think of Obama

They are thinking about that ‘free lunch’ America brings to the table.

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By heterochromatic, October 17, 2011 at 1:50 pm Link to this comment

Oceanna—

—-” What does Obama represent to the Africans now, 
besides colonialism?”———


I don’t really know what people living in Africa think of Obama,  and I sure as heck
don’t think that you have any real reason or evidence to say that he’s thought to
represent colonialism.

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By Oceanna, October 17, 2011 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment

“the “stated objective” is kill/capture the LRA leadership and end the ability of
the LRA to fight.”

I don’t disagree that’s accurate or true.  It’s a credible assertion. 

This so-called humanitarian and limited intervention on the African continent has
become an established meme.  What does Obama represent to the Africans now, 
besides colonialism?

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By frecklefever, October 17, 2011 at 11:00 am Link to this comment

PEPE ESCOBAR HAS AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE IN TODAYS ASIA TIMES ON
THIS SUBJECT…

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By Peter Knopfler, October 16, 2011 at 5:27 pm Link to this comment

UGANDA WHERE CILD SOLDIERS ARE GROWN DAILY OBAMA
FIRST SAID “NO US AID TO UGANDA BECAUSE OF CHILD
SOLDIER POLICY” LAST MINUTE HE CHANGED HIS MIND AND
SAID J"JUST ONE MORE TIME; GIVE THEM THE MONEY”
A YEAR LATER HE SENDS 100 special ops THE BEST TO GO
AFTER ONE MAN AN AFRICAN NOT USA CITIZEN: BLACK OBAMA
LOOKING VERY WHITE.
2DAYS OF DRONE ATTACKS 100 DEAD, 3 COUNTRIES LONG
DISTANCE IS OBAMITO STYLT YET HERE TROOPS; ANWAR WAS
DRONED; OSAMA BEN LADEN BOMBED; UGANDA TROOPS ON THE
GROUND! HA HA CIA GEN.D.BETRAYUS ON THE MOVE SILENT
and EFFECTIVE! SEC.CLINTON SPEECH, OCT 12,c-span;
said"GLOBAL LEADERSHIP IN OUR DNA”?? WOW! WHO IS THE
NAZI NOW! IN OUR GENETICS, WOW! SUPERIOR GENETICS HA
HA AMERICAN NAZIS KILLING TORTURE LIES IN YOUR DNA!
so SAYS SEC.CLINTON…..... FELLOW SLAVES!

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By heterochromatic, October 16, 2011 at 1:13 pm Link to this comment

====Have you suggested
committing combat forces against minors and children? =====

I suggested destroying the group and have no great enthusiasm for combat
against children, but understand that the child soldiers of the LRA are armed
and they shoot any they kill, maim and abduct innocents. If it comes down to
it, I find using military force against underage “soldiers” victimizing innocents
justified.


=====Destroying the LRA was certainly not among the stated objectives of
sending American troops.======

what? what do you think to be the objective behind sending troops to train
other troops to fight the LRA?

the “stated objective” is kill/capture the LRA leadership and end the ability of
the LRA to fight.

I take it fro granted that achieving the objectives necessarily results in the
destruction of that “Army”

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By Oceanna, October 16, 2011 at 8:16 am Link to this comment

“Do you wish us to understand that
destroying an horrific group of murders is itself a predation?”

FYI.  Destroying the LRA was certainly not among the stated objectives of
sending American troops.  The Ugandan president has stressed, perhaps in an
attempt to mollify fears in his country of an American invasion, that the troops
are non-combat as the Obama administration has. 

Your enthusiasm about destroying and obviously killing off the LRA, fortunately,
has not been advocated by anyone but yourself.  Further FYI and a well known
fact—the LRA is composed significantly of children! Have you suggested
committing combat forces against minors and children? 

BTW,  an unequivocal yes to YOUR question.

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By john crandell, October 15, 2011 at 8:43 pm Link to this comment

Dang!  Is that mister Jon Voight in blackface?  Looks like he’s found his true calling. I always thought that he and Alan Keyes should elope to Puerto Valarta.

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By bill Desmond, October 15, 2011 at 8:00 pm Link to this comment
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No doubt Uganda will be destroyed in order to save it.
For Haliburton and Big Oil.
And anyway, I think the Chinese are beating you to it, while you were “saving” Iraq and Afghanistan. 
More or less.
I think the protestors will soon have something bigger to worry about.
Don’t learn, do you?

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By heterochromatic, October 15, 2011 at 5:41 pm Link to this comment

Oceanna, i wasn’t clear about what you might have meant when you seemed to
say that military advisors to aid the effort to rid Africa of the LRA was
inconsistent with humanitarianism.

Or how you reckon that having oil and other natural resources
in the area makes the deployment of 100 Americans illegitimate.


Or why it’s apparent to you that “...the country’s vast resources are not
supposed to belong to the Ugandans.”  Do you wish us to understand that
destroying an horrific group of murders is itself a predation?


I’m not quite clear on your meaning.

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By Oceanna, October 15, 2011 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment

“OBAMA IS NOT A WISE BUS DRIVER”

That’s true.  A bus driver should see the signs, anticipate what’s ahead, and feel a
sense of responsibility for the safety and well being of the bus’s passengers,
instead of the whims and demands of his perceived bosses in that now proverbial
1%.

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By squeaky, October 15, 2011 at 4:32 pm Link to this comment
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“The spice must flow”!

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By Trisha, October 15, 2011 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment
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Just another military adventure for oil.

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By frecklefever, October 15, 2011 at 9:45 am Link to this comment

OBAMA IS DRIVING THE BUS…AND COLIN POWELL SAID WHEN A
SOUTHERN STATE HIRED ITS FIRST BLACK BUS DRIVER THE BLACKS PRAYED
HE WOULDN’T WRECK IT…OBAMA IS NOT A WISE BUS DRIVER…

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By Oceanna, October 15, 2011 at 8:29 am Link to this comment

Oops!  Grammatical errors.

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By Oceanna, October 15, 2011 at 8:26 am Link to this comment

Not surprisingly, the news I’ve come across is fragmented.  The troops are
being presented both as combat-ready and advisors.  The mission is being
defined as being humanitarian and national-security oriented.  It’s easy to
eliminate the inconsistencies presented—namely, advisors and humanitarian. 

Yes, Uganda is swimming in oil that hasn’t even been tapped yet.  Last month
there were some apparent difficulties in allocating it out to major, international
oil companies.  All that is on hold.  There is a lot of gold and also water for
hydropower.  Apparently, the country’s vast resources are not supposed to
belong to the Ugandans.

PNAC is still the driving rationale behind military expansion.  It (PNAC) is like a
junkie’s rationalization for unlimited oil and power and a major stimulus for a
kind of self-feeding mania.  The current dynamics are like an insanity that
denies its limitations and own inevitable self-destruction. 

Ever feel like you’re a passenger on a bus driven and chartered by crazies that’s
heading for a cliff while most of the passengers remain unaware or asleep?

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By THX 1133 is not in the movie..., October 14, 2011 at 11:57 pm Link to this comment

Actually; it’s more like 4 countries;
“The first of the troops arrived in Uganda on
Wednesday, the White House said, and others will be
sent to South Sudan, the Central African Republic and
the Democratic Republic of the Congo.”

The article is here;

http://tinyurl.com/62n9f6q

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By David Fox, October 14, 2011 at 3:39 pm Link to this comment
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Is it too late to give Obama another Nobel peace prize?

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By Mike, October 14, 2011 at 3:22 pm Link to this comment
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Uganda is supposed to have oil reserves that rival Saudi Arabia’s.

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By Oceanna, October 14, 2011 at 3:06 pm Link to this comment

So what strategic interests are behind this “humanitarian interventionism” ?

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By PatrickHenry, October 14, 2011 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment

There must be something there that some U.S. corporation wants.

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By Robespierre115, October 14, 2011 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment

Obama still earning his Nobel Peacr Prize by militarizing the globe.

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