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Obama Lets McChrystal Keep All 4 Stars

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Posted on Jun 29, 2010
U.S. Air Force / Master Sgt. Jerry Morrison

Loose lips sink ships and careers, but they won’t keep Gen. Stanley McChrystal from taking his four-star rank into retirement. CNN reports that the White House is waiving a rule to let McChrystal stay at his current pay grade even though he’s now a world-famous trash talker.

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While the general is short of the time needed to retire at his current pay grade, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Obama would ensure he keeps his rank as he steps down.

“The president believes and has talked with Secretary Gates about this, and we will do whatever is necessary to ensure he, somebody who has served the country as he has, can retire at a four-star level,” Gibbs told reporters.

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M Henri Day's avatar

By M Henri Day, July 1, 2010 at 12:40 am Link to this comment

Ofersince72, may I inquire as to how you know that :

...there isn’t one damn person on
      Truth Dig that gives a rat’ [sic !] ass
      about Senator Brown’s bailout or
      Steve Forbes [sic !] advertisments against
      Labor and Unions.

Are you personally so well acquainted with all of us who from time to time post here ? What I find ironic in this context is the coverage of labour affairs in China in the US mainstream press, which, at least until recently, never failed to lament that the official Chinese labour union was allied with that country’s government and business and that independent unions were not allowed, while at the same time always opposing and denigrating independent unions in their own land. Recently, however, the tune seems to be changing, as US firms begin to realise that labour in China - even that represented by the official union - is gaining more power, and that this will lead to increased costs for manufacturers in that country….

Henri

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By rico, suave, June 30, 2010 at 7:55 pm Link to this comment

Anarcissie:
“His only career error was allowing his people to pop off in front of a reporter.”

Totally agree. I think his staff screwed him. I also agree with some of the other posters who think this whole thing is a self-made setup; a get out of jail free card. McChrystal sees the writing on the wall and wants to preserve his resume.

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By ofersince72, June 30, 2010 at 6:35 pm Link to this comment

Anarcissie,

While I don’t believe O as anymore incompetent as
Commander-In-Chief than any other one of my time, there
is no way that it could be argued that he is naieve or
shallow.
He is a shrewd business man and politician doing what
he was paid to do with the $700,000,000 he was given to
do what he is doing.  Don’t make those lame excuses for
Barrack Obama.  That is just how this nation got into the
position it is in right now.

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By Bonny, June 30, 2010 at 5:57 pm Link to this comment
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Obama made the right choice here and I give him full credit on that.  Some of the fat slobs here who have never done anything for their country or sacrificed anything to try and complete a military mission have no room to talk about how this general deserved to be treated.

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By Anarcissie, June 30, 2010 at 5:37 pm Link to this comment

I don’t see Mr. O as incompetent at all.  His style is cautious and conservative, but that’s what got him where he is today.  One could argue that he is shallow or naive when it comes to political philosophy, but deep analysis would only make it more difficult for him to engage the unreason of his tasks, such as nation-building in Afghanistan.  Philosopher-kings are not wanted; if Mr. O had shown any sign of that sort of thing, he would not have gotten anywhere near the presidency.

As for McChrystal, he was trying to perform the impossible (because logically contradictory) tasks his boss, and his boss’s bosses, set out for him.  His only career error was allowing his people to pop off in front of a reporter.

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By MarthaA, June 30, 2010 at 3:49 pm Link to this comment

President Obama is being too generous to McChrystal, who actually failed his mission, by supporting the military industrial complex’s leaders, instead of his Commander in Chief.

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By rico, suave, June 30, 2010 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment

ofer:

“You are the official, who is fit and unfit to be
commander-in-chief…...........wowy….”

Now, ya see… that’s what I’m talking about. What the hell does that phrase mean?

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By ofersince72, June 30, 2010 at 2:57 pm Link to this comment

DEAR GOOGLE,  there isn’t one damn person on
          Truth Dig that gives a rat’ ass
          about Senator Brown’s bailout or
          Steve Forbes advertisments against
          Labor and Unions.

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By ofersince72, June 30, 2010 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment

Rico ,,,,,you just BEG and BEG sarcasm…........
You are the official, who is fit and unfit to be
commander-in-chief…...........wowy….
how impressive

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By insultant, June 30, 2010 at 11:31 am Link to this comment

UCMJ Article 88 “Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Maximum punishment: Dismissal, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.

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By Hammond Eggs, June 30, 2010 at 10:45 am Link to this comment

By secretarybird, June 30 at 9:10 am #

I don’t buy the theory that McChrystal deliberately sought to get himself fired. How could he be sure the ploy would work?

If the Rolling Stone article didn’t turn the trick, McChrystal would have made yet another attempt, this time, perhaps, in some left wing European newspaper.  Eventually, the strategy would have worked.  Even a pimp like Obama has to draw the line somewhere.

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By rico, suave, June 30, 2010 at 9:59 am Link to this comment

kerryrose:

Very interesting observation. But it reinforces in my mind the conviction that Obama was, is and will ever be unfit to be President. Presidents have to know their way around power centers and know how to handle power, neither of which traits are anywhere to be found in Obama’s resume.

Metzler:

It could also be that Obama is telling McChrsytal, “I’ll give you your star if you promise not to tell the world what an incompetent commander-in-chief I am.”

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By Igor, June 30, 2010 at 8:00 am Link to this comment
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YAY…stars! Just like kindergarten!

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By kerryrose, June 30, 2010 at 7:42 am Link to this comment

I wonder if Obama should have taken a ‘star’ from McChrystal? 

Obama does seem intimidated by ‘the powers that be,’ financial, military, and right wing.  He wouldn’t have the courage.

I have seen this type of intimidated behavior before.  It seems to occur in left leaning people with non-elite backgrounds who make it to the big top.  They carry with them a little of the ‘humbled in your presence’ attitude, although intellectually they rebel against it.

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By M Henri Day, June 30, 2010 at 7:23 am Link to this comment

McChrystal retires as four-star general ? Isn’t that what Social Security is all about - providing for comfort and economic security in old age ?...

Henri

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By secretarybird, June 30, 2010 at 5:10 am Link to this comment

I don’t buy the theory that McChrystal deliberately sought to get himself fired. How could he be sure the ploy would work? A simpler explanation would be that he and his aides thought that “Rolling Stone” would see them as some sort of military rock stars, and behaved accordingly. Unfortunately, they were more Spinal Tap than Led Zep.

As for retirement packages, the British navy in the 18th century had an admirable system for getting rid of incompetent captains. They were promoted to Vice Admiral of the Yellow, the main condition of which was that they never set foot on the deck of one of His Majesty’s ships again. In effect, early retirement with a face-saving deal.

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