mr freeze parroting Obama talking point:
>>The insurance companies have spent literally hundreds of millions of dollars fighting the legislation that he is about to pass.<<

This is a distortion and deceitful lie by the proponents of Pass the Trash.  The money these companies spent, the “fight” you are talking about here, was used to lobby and modify the bill to their liking.  They largely won the fight against a more progressive bill, but that is fundamentally different than being against the final bill they shaped with their monies.  Since their shareholders are happy about the bill it is highly likely that the HICs would favor these final bills (though I admit this is not a simple analysis to make).

NYCArtist—powerful article at BAR…the quoted langston Hughes poem was a “lump in the throat” on a night like this….

“We don’t know exactly what Obama will say in his holiday message. But Langston Hughes knew seventy years ago what he will mean.

While all the world hails Christmas

While all the church bells sway

While better still the Christian guns

Proclaim this joyous day

While holy steel that makes us strong

Spits forth a mighty yuletide song

SHOOT Merry Christmas everywhere

Let Merry Christmas GAS the air.”

the more things change…...

He must not be as “smart” as everybody thought…I guess Dems will just have to pray they run against Palin.

mrfreeze—i am getting tired of hearing that shit..plenty of us did alot more than this..called until we were hung up on, faxed, and practiced civil disobedience outside insurance companies…Obama is too corporate—he doesnt care. Hell, I have been working on this half of my life,,,I didnt think Obama would do single payer, nor any of the Dems, but I thought it would be better than this!! Anti-trust leglisaton? Nope. Drug re—importation? Nope. Landrieu, Nelson and others came out of it pretty good, though. BaucASS has always been a sell-out. But, alot of people (myself not included0 did not think Obama was a sell-out…when he first took office, he was so popular , he couldve done anything he wanted..if he had told Congress to work on this instead of the Faux Stimulus Bill, it would have been passed as anything he wanted it to be…

But, i saw that before..

Then, you fall back on the “better than Palin” and “better than Bush” threats..I dont know…if we had Palin, we might be able to get people to rise up…Obama is just an opiate of the masses in denaial.

This bill is the entirely stupidest thing that Dems have done since Clinton

D.C. - Corporate Welfare Exchange

Obama - just another broker.

Take the environment for another example, Goldman Sachs owns 10% of the Chicago exchange that will host the cap and trade credit trading. Also, Government Sachs owns a minority stake in the firm that will broker the cap and trade credit trading.

Also remember that Government Sachs probably wouldn’t exist if they weren’t bailed out by the government - Obama voted for this too - and they used the bail out to rub out some of their competition (Lehman).

People, this isn’t about what’s in the best public interest for health care, the environment, or anything else. It’s about corporate welfare.

mr freeze,

Perhaps you are starting to get the point that people such as myself are not upset with Obama because of what he is able to say on NPR in isolation from his election platform.  That is precisely how Obama wants you to judge him because he completely betrayed that platform.  You apparently are just fine with these deceptions but others are not and for good reason.  You simply can not have a functioning democracy when your leaders have no accountability for even making a reasonable effort to execute what they were elected to do.  Frankly, Obama in my opinion treated his campaign as if it was a college debate challenge, made up shit as needed strictly to beat his opponents, and then ignored it all and did whatever suited his financial backers.  This is no small detail, but is a huge huge deal!  Yes, you can make the point that all Presidents fall down at some level in this regard, but with everything taken together Obama has deceived the public at an unacceptable level far beyond any other President in recent memory.

To get a clue on Obamas promises versus delivery effort and what is has wrought please read the following link before commenting again:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/the-democrats-authoritari_b_402146.html

mrfreeze

So what you are hearing is “worn out” and “tiring” for you.  And I had a tasty lunch today.  But why would anyone care to hear it?  The point about my paragraph being “baloney” suggests you think the statements incorrect but otherwise provides zero information.  If you care to discuss how you reason those statements are incorrect go ahead.  Otherwise your just farting in public…again.

MrFreeze
Go ahead and hang on to your support for Obama.  But please don’t try to give the impression that the voters, now so pissed off at him, are deluded, or mistaken.  They “expected” Obama to do what he said he’d do; that’s all.  Of course you’re right.  The corporations aren’t going to roll over and play dead.  The problem is not that what you say isn’t true, the problem is, that Obama wouldn’t be president if had had the backbone to admit to the public that corporations wouldn’t roll over for him.  He bullshitted us left and right, about “change,” and “hope.”  And he’s still bullshitting.  The last lie he told was that he never gave people the expectation that he’d give us a public option “if we voted for him.”  He can fail to the extent that he did, and get away with it.  But he didn’t just fail, he lied, and he lied more than any other presidential candidate in my memory.  Don’t tell me he didn’t know that the corporations wouldn’t roll over for him.  Of course he knew.  So, why didn’t he tell us he knew?  What kind of a man bullshits his way into the presidency to the extent that Obama did?  Of course we all lie to some extent.  But Obama went so far over the line, it’s pathetic.  He tried and apparently succeeded in making fools of the American voter.  I was reading the posts on another chatlist, recently.  One of the letters said, “I voted for Obama, I apologize.”  That took balls.

Mrfreeze—-Your observations would carry far more weight had Obama fought for reform and lost.  The fact that he did not fight (which I believe is incontestible) suggests that: (1) he is disposed not to fight for his beliefs; (2) he did not believe the reform effort was worth a fight; and/or (3) he views the Senate bill as “reform,” notwithstanding his many statements to the contrary as a candidate.  Obviously, none of these inferences reflects well on him, and the only one he can (and has chosen to) argue is the third. Try as he might, however, the argument is a loser.  The Senate bill creates a captive and ineffectively regulated health insurance market. That is why the stocks of health “insurers” are gaining value at five to six times every index average.  Institutional investors know a pay-off when they see one.

I like Obama, contributed to his campaign, and voted for him. I do not believe he is a coward.  However, I believe the first inference is closer to the truth. Notwithstanding what may have been a difficult childhood, I believe Obama’s life—particularly post high school—-has been relatively easy and privileged.  He was welcomed into the elite culture of he Ivy League, fawned over (there is no doubting his intelligence and personal charisma), and seduced.  He became, and would prefer to remain (despite his “better angels”), one of “them,” and has internalized the belief that the settlement of political differences should resemble the polite disagreement of a Harvard debate.  The sad fact is that had he been required to work his way through a state college and law school, and then spent 20 years in the world of hard knocks, and not training for and holding a succession of elected offices, he might have been a truly great man.

Even after I pointed out just how worn-out and tired all the Obama criticism is, “glider” comes up with this ridiculous nonsense:

“Once you can limit yourself to talking about “results” in the absence of “mechanisms” you enable yourself to go into Orwellian Doublespeak.  Then, Peace can become War, and Mandates to Purchase Insurance can become Universal Health Care or the HICs Not Denying You Coverage.  It is a form of Arbeit Macht Frei and is a dangerous area to allow politicians to restrict their communications…...”

What a bunch of baloney. Cut and paste this sort of rhetoric on Reagan, Nixon, GWB, Johnson, etc. It’s verbal masturbation at best.

I highly recommend you all listen to the NPR interview with President Obama broadcast this evening. Instead of pretending to know what he thinks about the bill being passed, actually shut up and listen to his analysis of the bill. His words, not yours.

It took almost 100 years of talk and obfuscation to get health care reform to this point. Did you really think it was going to be easy??? Did you think for one nano-second that the monied interests were going to roll over and play dead?

This goes for a lot of other criticism President Obama has been received. America has been on the wrong trajectory for a long time now, and if you all expected that, in 11 months Obama OR ANYONE was going to solve all of the world’s problems, then you are not, nor do you deserve to be honest critics.

6 broken promises made re: Health *insurance* reform told by Barack Obama:

Biggest promise:
Universal Health Care:
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama, seeking support from labor union members in New Jersey, vowed Monday to make health insurance available to all Americans by the end of his first term in the White House.

‘‘We can have universal health care by the end of the next president’s first term, by the end of my first term,’’ Obama said, bringing 600 union workers to their feet during a question-and-answer session with members of AFL-CIO affiliated unions.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/385287,051407obama.article

When he was campaigning, he also promised us this:

2. No Individual Mandate.
In this transcript of his Jan 31 2008 debate with Hillary, he was against a mandate, saying she was for it.
“if, in fact, you are going to mandate the purchase of insurance and it’s not affordable, then there’s going to have to be some enforcement mechanism that the government uses. And they may charge people who already don’t have health care fines, or have to take it out of their paychecks. And that, I don’t think, is helping those without health insurance. That is a genuine difference.”

—- Well, the bills have mandates.

3. Complete Transparency

Candidate Obama promised that health care deliberations with Congress and special interests would be transparent to the extreme.

“That’s what I will do in bringing all parties together, not negotiating behind closed doors, but bringing all parties together, and broadcasting those negotiations on C-SPAN so that the American people can see what the choices are,” Mr. Obama said during his Jan. 31, 2008 debate with Clinton. “Because part of what we have to do is enlist the American people in this process. And overcoming the special interests and the lobbyists who—Senator Clinton is right. They will resist anything that we try to do.”

—- But deals were cut with Big Pharma in private meetings at the WH.

4. Enable the Government to Directly Negotiate Drug Prices

In the Jan. 31, 2008 debate, Mr. Obama said, “If a drug company—if the drug companies or a member of Congress who’s carrying water for the drug companies wants to argue that we should not negotiate for the cheapest available price on drugs, then I want them to make that argument in front of the American people.”

“We’ll negotiate with the drug companies for the cheapest available price on drugs,” Mr. Obama said again in an Oct. 15, 2008 debate with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

—- Nope….not happening.

5. Allow Drug Importation

During the campaign, Mr. Obama said his plan would “Allow consumers to import safe drugs from other countries” because “some companies are exploiting Americans by dramatically overcharging U.S. consumers.”

—- Nope…part of the secret deal with drug companies was no importation.

6. Lower Premiums by $2,500 for a Family of Four

“If you’ve got health insurance through your employer, you can keep your health insurance, keep your choice of doctor, keep your plan,” Mr. Obama said in his Oct. 15, 2008 debate against McCain. “The only thing we’re going to try to do is lower costs so that those cost savings are passed onto you. And we estimate we can cut the average family’s premium by about $2,500 per year.”

—- Both proposed bills will reduce employer coverage, and dramatically RAISE insurance bills, on top of the rapid premium increases we have seen already.

What do you call 6 broken promises *on one issue*?

“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”

Hi I’m a newbie (long time lurker & fan) and I posted this here and on the Dean article not to spam but to gain the widest viewership. Mods please feel free to delete either. But Please don’t ban me!

Defiant? I don’t believe Obama has ever been defiant
about anything. Milquetoast maybe; but never defiant!

“I didn’t campaign on the public option”

Mr President, trust me you do not want to get into a discussion of what you presented to the public to steal the election.

from http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf

There are 6 references to the “public plan” in this one portion of your policy statement alone, 2 of which are in the excerpt below.

(2) NEW AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE HEALTH INSURANCE OPTIONS. The Obama-Biden plan will create a National Health Insurance Exchange to help individuals purchase new affordable health care options if they are uninsured or want new health insurance. Through the Exchange, any American will have the opportunity to enroll in the new public plan or an approved private plan, and income-based sliding scale tax credits will be AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE COVERAGE OPTIONS FOR ALL provided for people and families who need it. Insurers would have to issue every applicant a policy and charge fair and stable premiums that will not depend upon health status. The Exchange will require that all the plans offered are at least as generous as the new public plan and meet the same standards for quality and efficiency. Insurers would be required to justify an above average premium increase to the Exchange. The Exchange would evaluate plans and make the differences among the plans, including cost of services, transparent.

If Dr.Dean and President Obama think that this bill, whether Senate or House version, which fails to reform the health care industry and only ensures their profitability, is the result of GOP interference alone they should say so, repeatedly and publicly. They should cite chapter and verse, give specific examples thereof and prove their point to the American people.

They cannot and will not because, in the end, it was a joint failure of both parties to refuse to pander to insurance and drug company money. Those staunch democrats who insist upon pointing fingers rather than accurately assessing this failure as symptomatic of the systemic influence of money upon legislation do this nation, and their own party, a disservice.

Hey twodogs, December 23 at 3:53 am

Those great moments in history when Presidents showed

courage were followed by assassinations.

Bush3 had to appear indignant to maintain his stealth

puppet role. He’s just following orders.

In moving past his election I believe Obama has become more cunning and learned to not discuss the specific mechanisms he wants to use to realize his policies.  He learned this mistake in promising and campaigning upon the “public option”.  The problem with this is it does not allow for massive latitude in deceiving the public. 

Once you can limit yourself to talking about “results” in the absence of “mechanisms” you enable yourself to go into Orwellian Doublespeak.  Then, Peace can become War, and Mandates to Purchase Insurance can become Universal Health Care or the HICs Not Denying You Coverage.  It is a form of Arbeit Macht Frei and is a dangerous area to allow politicians to restrict their communications.  The Federal Reserve and Bankster class is an even greater master at this technique as they have developed an obfuscating language that even makes described mechanisms difficult to decipher.  Without a responsible MSM it is difficult to see how the public at large will be able to see through the fog.

“Every single criteria for reform I put forward is in this bill.”

So what Obama is doing is setting as a standard for measuring his success the broad criteria he put before Congress after his election.  Well Mr President, people are not concerned about those criteria, because we did not elect you based on those criteria.  Get it?

People elected you based on your campaign platforms and not on your post election wishy washy proclamation to Congress.  So we are deservedly upset that you betrayed us based upon the promises you made to get elected.  We don’t need your rhetorical obfuscations to attempt to escape your responsibilities to the public.  If Presidential campaign platforms are reduced to populist lies to steal elections then Democracy itself is dead.  So this is a Big Deal!  It is clear why you want to reframe the argument.

This is emotional and psychological manipulation, enforcing emotional and psychological conformity.

I voted for Obama because he said he was against insurance mandates. I remember him saying this very clearly. He skewered Hilary for it too during the debates.

Also, he said the health care reform process would be transparent and lobbyist discussions would be on CSPAN.

This is unlike the auto insurance mandates, because at least driving is voluntary.

That said, I don’t know why anyone is surprised. DC is nothing but a corporate welfare exchange and politicians in both parties are just brokers.

Did anyone notice that health care stocks just went up? I would be excited too if millions of people were legally forced to buy my product. 

Seriously people, instead of getting in the street and kicking and screaming… start your own health care co-op (if it’s even legal to do so now), start a health collective, or non-profit health services… go outside the system and off the grid if you have to… better than waiting for the State to grant you mercy.

It seems to me that others are much more O’blabla than Pres. Obama.  The comments here are outlandish to say the least and this quote from the Post article isn’t quite accurate, well…. at least if you are talking to the horse’s mouth.  Article quote: ” He has come under sharp criticism for the size and shape of the legislation, including from former Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean, who has said he would prefer that the Senate defeat the bill rather than pass what he considers weak legislation.”

If you compare this quote to what HOWARD DEAN actually says he believes, a very different picture emerges.  Howard Dean on “Meet the Press”:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/#34498920

Howard Dean quotes from “Meet the Press”:

“DR. DEAN:  ...I, I think, you know, the Republicans’ behavior has been reprehensible.  They haven’t lifted a finger.  All their, their—they, they have really put their party in front of their country here.  You know, they could have made this bill a better bill, but they choose just to kill the bill because they thought they did do that for political reasons.  First—and I don’t believe there’s a bipartisan compromise possible.  As David Axelrod said, the Republicans of today and the John McCain of today is not the same—not even the same as the Republican Party of eight years ago, and it certainly isn’t the same as the Republican Party my father was in until the day he died.  So it—you know, I respect John McCain, but it’s, he wouldn’t be the first person who twisted my words around and used them for something I had no intention of endorsing, which is the Republicans’ behavior in this bill.

DR. DEAN:  Of course.  Absolutely.  I, I’ve said I would vigorously support the president’s re-election in 2012.  I have every intention of doing that. Look, whatever fights we have inside the Democratic Party—and this is a very, very, very sore one, because I really do think we’re going down a track that’s not going to be helpful in the long run without some really brutal fights ahead of us.  But, you know, President Obama, first of all, has had a terrific record on the environment.  Despite his struggles, I think he’s actually moved the dialogue in Copenhagen forward.  He’s—he restored America’s good name around the rest of the world.  I mean, he is so far ahead of whatever the Republicans might choose to do in 2012 that of course I’m going to support President Obama.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34490422/ns/meet_the_press/

The problem is not Pres. Obama.  THE PROBLEM IS those who put themselves and their “discretionary income” (no matter how questionable the source) above their fellow citizens.  Currently, we call them REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS.

I’m with Dr. Dean, good for him.

Massive Chutzpuh!

Rather than use his intelligence and rhetorical skills to educate the public and drive policy in the progressive manner as I had hoped could have made this man one of our greatest presidents, Obama chose to use this skill set to manipulate the public into his real thieving corporate agenda.

Inconsistencies immediately popping into my mind:

1.  All parties will have a seat at the decision making table.
2.  No lobbyists or undue lobbyist influence will be allowed in my administration.
3.  We will govern transparently and not make closed door backroom deals.
4.  Multiple campaign trail repetitions of “Americans deserve no less than the same medical coverage enjoyed by their congress men and women”
5.  Verbally made and website Published his proposal for a public option available to all Americans (this one stole my vote and donation money)

No doubt Obama can find some slick verbal loopholes to try to escape the above.  But people are not interested in voting for such slimey slithering politicians.  Your intent was clear to all.  Obama absolutely deceitfully represented himself during the campaign to win the election and then proceeded to deliberately betray the people for a corporate agenda in record time.  I can not recall such a deliberate in your face betrayal in my quite subtantial lifetime.

I go back to Roosevelt, but so what? It starts to get a little silly. The thing is…
there have in fact been some great moments of political courage… few I grant…
and there were some politicians who actually believe the words coming of their
mouths, and they made us believe. And some fairly good policies saw the light of
day.

What I want to know is:  What segments of the medical and health care profession were in on these formative sessions from the beginning to the end, and how much time and attention were given to them in comparison to the “health industry” lobbyists? 

They are the people who see the harm done by inadequate public health care in every city and town in the country, and they have professional clout that should command serious attention. Doctors, surgeons, nurses, technicians, convalescent homes, therapists—all of them pledged to “do no harm” know that harm is being donw by lack of adequte public health care.  Where are their voices?

How can they be recruited to participate in immediate interpretations, arguments, reforms now that a skeletal (but inadequate) bill is being passed.  Even hospital attorneys and class action attorneys ought to be involved because they see the agonies of inadequate coverage all the time.  Makes me question:  Does Obama know where his real friends are in this fight—people who may be the best ones to argue the pro-public-option case?

CONSPICUOUS CORRUPTION in the Senate gave birth to a hideous health care bill.  Obama’s arrogance allows him to believe that his rhetorical skills can sell this turkey as an eagle.  It’s time to kill this bill and provide Obama with a strong political slap down.

Where have you critics of President Obama been living for the last 50 years? I go back to post Kennedy years in remembering presidents. NONE. NOT ONE has escaped the political realities of Washington. They have all failed (some, like GWB were serial failures) to push through agendas and legislation that satisfies their base. 

What’s so stunning about the vitriol pouring out on this thread is the “re-tread” feel of your words. You all sound like a broken record. I’ve heard you all before and, simply put, you’re boring. What’s more, your anger is worthless if you’re not willing to do something about it.

If you are truly concerned with leadership and political power AND you’re tired of the corporate/fascist nature of our country, then get your asses out there defeat the cynical and nihilistic conservatives who are determined to hog-tie the legislative system.

While you’re at it, get on the horn with the Dems and let them know they’re next if the can’t grow some stones.

The only way things are ever going to change in Washington is if the American people take to the streets en mass and demand change. The sad fact is, the French, Italians, Germans, Iranians and other people (socialists/dictatorships) are made of tougher stuff. Perhaps we have a lot to learn from their activism. Here, we just call the President names and wish things would change.

Obama is a rebranded “X-gen” Clinton.  Want proof?  If Obama had genuinely wanted to reform the health care industry, he would have made his demands clear, and, when faced with “tea bagging” nonsense and opposition from “moderate” Democrats (Lieberman, Nelson, Stupak, etc.), would have called for a national rally at the Capitol, attended by all who attended his inaguration and anyone else who supported his position.  There, he would have used his considerable skills as an orator to make the sort of fire-breathing speech needed to bring a crowd of 1 million plus to its feet, stamping, applauding and chanting in unison (or a facsimile thereof, given the delays).  The sound would have shaken the floor of the Senate and caused the aging tongues of its occupants to shrivel, their ears to bleed, their bowels to permanently loosen and, as a direct or corollary effect, true reform legislation to be passed.  The mere threat of such action would probably have done the trick.

But Obama did no such thing.  He convened in private with pharma, let the industry and its lobbyists drive the legislative drafting, and put corporate shills like Lieberman and Nelson in a position to drive any deal thay wanted.  The result?  “Reform” that creates an expanded and captive insurance market without effective regulation or public competition; double digit gains in the value of health insurer’s stocks.

Obama is a the newest in a line of elite brands, the facile voice and face of those with money and power, our owners and masters.  Somewhere, P.T. Barnum is smiling and shaking his head.

When will we as Americans start to hold politicians responsible for their statements and their subsequent actions. This process of evasions, distortions, Realpolitik in its lowest form and dishonoring the American people must stop.  We did not vote for Obama alone, we voted for his message, if we can’t believe his statements, then we have no reason to support the President. I have watched this disgusting process of “branding” and “team building” as a form of political football, with no regard for the truth or the people for too long.

Compromise presumes that you have a position to compromise about, speaking of compromise when you really mean “ward heeling” is both disingenuous and politically destructive.

When will we start holding our politicians accountable, we can not stand this anymore, we have real problems that must be addressed, we must stop talking and start finding candidates that will oppose incumbents that continuously disregard the will of the people.

It is time for a change and unless President Obama starts to do some of the things he talked about-he needs to go at the next election.

OBAMA DEFIANT IN FACE OF HEALTH CARE CRITICISM
Posted on Dec 22, 2009

Fascist Obama let big tobacco write its bill &
MIPIC:MEDICAL INSURANCE
PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRIAL CONSPIRACY write its bill.
Duh !

IMO, the big story is the timing of this hoax /
disaster.

The timing is painfully reminiscent of that day of
infamy, DECEMBER 23,1913, when
DEMOCRACY died with the passage of the FEDERAL
RESERVE ACT,signed by
WOODROW WILSON. This gave the private banksters the
power to create money
out of thin air and is the foundation for GOVERNMENT
SACHS and the
enslavement of AMERICA in a web of debt.

MIPIC stocks soar & Bush3 has the audacity to be
defiant even though it’s
obvious he screwed we the people again. Getting a
Nobel Peace Prize
while war mongering obviously went to his head. Hence
the bloviation &
fecal vomiting.

your not going to be able to explain things away this time Mr. President… you’ve been busted…

When did bipartisanship become preferable to
partisanship? We have political parties for a
reason, and when we vote for the party’s
candidates we expect them to be partisan,
champion policies we agree with, and, most
importantly, reject the policies of the
opposition. Otherwise, there is no reason to
have political parties with distinct philosophies
and approaches to governing. I didn’t vote for
Obama so he could be a hybrid
Democrat/Republican, or so he could reach
across the now razor-thin void to
accommodate Republican interests. I expect
him and the Democrats in Congress to be
Democrats, fully and aggressively. Party
platforms used to be important, their fine
points argued in public and fairly well
understood. And, once agreed upon, fiercely
pursued. But then I’m really old, and that was a
long time ago.

What’s more, too many Democrats got to
calling themselves centrists. What a crock. That
center turns out to be code for “more-right-
than-I-can-admit-in-public.  And corporate
cash is what they all crave. That’s why this
health care bill, if it can still call itself that, is
such a pile of crap, and why neither Obama or
key Democrats in the Senate bothered to fight
for even for a minimal public option. And, of
course, it is why Obama failed to deliver in
Copenhagen… his speech in that cold corner of
the world was little more than vacuum
celebrating a vacancy. The winners in that one
will be coal and oil industries.

People on the left are not surprised.
See http://www.blackagendareport.com
  Paul Street’s articles over time on Znet at
http://www.Zcommunications.org/znet

hello. i like the part about destroying Medicare, and the panels whom decide what and when you get treatment. and no tort reform. and no interstate insurance competition. and a mandatory tax for not participating. and not compromising by giving me a voucher for an operation. his inflexibility on an issue he refused to become involved in until he could take credit for some part of it has a rod so far up his buttocks that he must find it difficult to sit.

Really?  I remember the campaign pretty clearly, and I remember Obama standing up in opposition to any publicly enforced mandates of private coverage.  There were plenty of other people we could have voted for who were offering this general plan, but we didn’t elect them, now did we?!

“Who cares what you think?” - George W. Bush, July 4,
2001
http://makethemaccountable.com/articles/Critic_Says_W_W
as_Snippy.htm

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

Keep it up, Obama.  Your nose is getting longer and longer and longer.