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Norway Shooter Declared Insane

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Posted on Nov 29, 2011
AP / Twitter, Anders Behring Breivik

This may not come as particularly surprising news, but psychiatry experts tasked with examining Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian man who killed 77 people and injured 151 in a mass shooting in his home country last summer, have concluded that he is insane. Specifically, they gave him a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia, which will likely mean that, although his trial will go forward next spring, he will wind up in a mental institution rather than jail.  —KA

BBC:

The 243-page report will be reviewed by a panel from the Norwegian Board of Forensic Medicine.

Breivik, 32, is due to stand trial on 16 April for a hearing scheduled to last around 10 weeks.

“If the final conclusion is that Breivik is insane, we will request that the court in the upcoming legal proceedings pass sentence by which Breivik is subjected to compulsory mental health care,” prosecutor Inga Bejer Engh told reporters in Oslo.

She later told the BBC that the trial would be unaffected by the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia: the only difference was that the prosecution could not ask the judge for a jail sentence.

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By D.R. Zing, December 15, 2011 at 8:30 pm Link to this comment

Hmm. I really like the follow-up comments that were made after my post. 

I had not considered many of the points that were brought up. Thank you.

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By jeffpc, December 1, 2011 at 8:23 pm Link to this comment

Anyone who decides to kill 70+ innocent people is by definition insane.  The problem is what this means for society’s treatment of him in the future.  Was he under control of prescription drugs that caused his mania?  If not then he soon will be.  Seriously our system needs to get rid of guilt/innocence and sentencing.  It should start thinking in terms of most probable scenario and then preventative and mitigating actions for all stakeholders.  We should not have a trial for a person, but an inquest into events to establish what happened.  Once the events are established the judge should have the power to compel mitigating and compensating actions, punitive actions, and prevention actions. Best community outcome should be paramount, whereas rights of the individual is currently paramount. His insanity should be irrelevant to the inquest except in so far as determining the best approach to prevent him from recurring the murders once the trial/inquest is complete.

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By Tobysgirl, November 30, 2011 at 11:17 am Link to this comment

Once again, people seem to fall into the trap that mental illness equals raving psychosis. Once we begin to understand how widespread mental illness is—the inability to distinguish reality from the mess in our heads—we would not talk about faking it, etc. Yes, Michelle Bachmann is mentally ill, it’s just that by our society’s standards she’s “normal.” But our society’s standards say that stealing people’s money, stealing children’s futures, killing people en masse, are all normal acts. If this fellow in Norway had joined the military and killed the “right” people, he would be considered sane. Even better is to become a major politician and commit war crimes for which you never have to answer.

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By Claude043, November 30, 2011 at 8:22 am Link to this comment

This is not a picture of the shooter is it???  Does
not look like the picture from other news reports.

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By xfixiator, November 30, 2011 at 5:35 am Link to this comment
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I can sympathize entirely with where D.R. Zing is coming from, but their decision is still faulty and ridden with emotion. Think about it logically. Anders Behring Breivik has attended thirteen ~three hour long sessions with two expert psychiatrists. That means that he has spent around thirty six hours being mentally probed by people whose lives revolve around deciding whether people are sane or not. Yet somehow you simply believe that he could simply fake it? You also have an unverified statement of few psychotics committing premeditated murder. Even if we were to accept that as a truism, there is always the chance that Anders Breivik is one of the few you mentioned. I understand where you’re coming from, I sincerely do. I share your anger and frustration, but in times like these we must rise up and become better human beings, not succumb to our lesser instincts.

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By examinator, November 29, 2011 at 8:03 pm Link to this comment

[“My sincerest condolences to all his victims.”] I’d add ‘both direct and indirect.’
I concur with this much of D R Zing but nothing more.

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By D.R. Zing, November 29, 2011 at 6:19 pm Link to this comment

My sincerest condolences to all his victims. The man is a beast. 

Very few psychotics commit premeditated violence. Most of the time their
violence is born of fear and paranoia and it happens on the spot.

He’s probably faking it.  A lot of good that will do him.  He’s gonna hate
the medicine and the clinical treatment.  It will make him miserable. 
He’ll be begging for jail after a few months. 

He’s gonna says he’s cured. The psychiatrists will then label him a sociopath
and go to even greater lengths to make him suffer. 

The miserable son-of-a-bitch will get what he deserves: a fate worse than
death.

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By magus12, November 29, 2011 at 5:23 pm Link to this comment
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A travesty.  Hate crimes do not equal mental illness.

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By afs, November 29, 2011 at 4:46 pm Link to this comment

Can we get some Norwegian mental health care for Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann please?

We could give the cover story they are going on trade mission with NATO Partners. Fly them in a corporate jet and have it land at a small field near the Mental Hospital.

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